My thanks to all for their help and suggestions, seems like a look at the original document is needed to solve this. regards Karl ....... Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 12:48:20 +0100 From: Numero Uno <orange.wasps@live.co.uk> Subject: Re: [CHS] Meaning of 'black nephew' ? To: "'KARL HELD'" <karl.held1@btinternet.com>,     <CHESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DUB128-DS3B8DBD5F5E488B1A3C7B5A6560@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have asked the question "What is a black nephew?" to assorted knowledgeable people who have an interest in mediaeval English history, but no-one can come up with an answer.  However, what is suggested is that something may have been lost or confused in the translation from the latin, and that the original charter be identified and consulted, either at The National Archives or Cheshire RO. Sorry not to have anything more definite. Ruth