Hi, Just for those who helped with information a few weeks ago I thought it only fair to let you know the current situation. I have decided to start again from the beginning. Using the original information I acquired through the family. Doing this I am now just checking if it was Charlotte Smith Walsh and Isabella Smith Walsh that were taken in by the Walsh family an therefore I have sent for some birth certificates for Charlotte Smith and Isabella Smith and we will see where it leads. Thanks again. Janet

Listers, Everyone is experiencing problems with the new 'improved' site. FMP are aware of this and they are working to put things right. Regards, Lyn

Not that Ancestry is that brilliant - you can get deaths/marriages when you ask for only births. The thing is you just have to experiment, all in all they are both better than having to travel miles and trawl through record books for hours and leave with nothing !!! or we're they the good days ? :-) :-) Sent from my iPad On 9 Apr 2014, at 22:41, "Elaine Hanson" <odessa@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > Hi Tim, > > I've had similar problems. It appears that FMP have decided to take the > Cheshire CofE baptisms, marriages and burials and lump them in with general > BMD's, so they are no longer featuring in the "Cheshire Collection" at this > time. The Catholic and non-conformist stay within the collection........not > sure of the reasoning here, I much prefer the old way of searching for > Cheshire events. > It would seem that FMP are trying to replicate the Ancestry way of > searching. You'll need to try the search option for BMD's and parish records > and try and filter for your needs, unless of course your ancestor was > catholic or non-conformist - although I haven't looked to see if these > particular records appear using both search options. > > regards, > Elaine. > > > > Subject: [CHS] New Version of Find My Past > > Help!!! > > Maybe it's just a question of getting used to it but I'm having problems > with searches on the new version of Find My Past. > > On the previous version, I could go straight to the Baptism Parish > Records in the Cheshire Collection and if I entered 9for example) John > Clare, b1766+ or- 2 years, place Witton - bingo - I got his baptism on > 12 Oct 1766. Now I can't find it at all or much else for that matter!! > I don't even seem able to restrict any searches by event type let alone > place, it just churns out BMD's seemingly at random and for any dates it > likes. > > Is anyone else having similar problems or is it just me. > > In hopeful anticipation of your help > > Tim Moore > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi On the new FMP if you go to 'Search records' then  'Search all records' you can select 'The Cheshire Collection' Joan ________________________________ From: Elaine Hanson <odessa@dsl.pipex.com> To: Tim Moore <tim.moore@konza.plus.com>; CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2014, 22:41 Subject: Re: [CHS] New Version of Find My Past Hi Tim, I've had similar problems. It appears that FMP have decided to take the Cheshire CofE baptisms, marriages and burials and lump them in with general BMD's, so they are no longer featuring in the "Cheshire Collection" at this time. The Catholic and non-conformist stay within the collection........not sure of the reasoning here, I much prefer the old way of searching for Cheshire events. It would seem that FMP are trying to replicate the Ancestry way of searching. You'll need to try the search option for BMD's and parish records and try and filter for your needs, unless of course your ancestor was catholic or non-conformist - although I haven't looked to see if these particular records appear using both search options. regards, Elaine. Subject: [CHS] New Version of Find My Past Help!!! Maybe it's just a question of getting used to it but I'm having problems with searches on the new version of Find My Past. On the previous version, I could go straight to the Baptism Parish Records in the Cheshire Collection and if I entered 9for example) John Clare, b1766+ or- 2 years, place Witton - bingo - I got his baptism on 12 Oct 1766.  Now I can't find it at all or much else for that matter!! I don't even seem able to restrict any searches by event type let alone place, it just churns out BMD's seemingly at random and for any dates it likes. Is anyone else having similar problems or is it just me. In hopeful anticipation of your help Tim Moore ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tim, I've had similar problems. It appears that FMP have decided to take the Cheshire CofE baptisms, marriages and burials and lump them in with general BMD's, so they are no longer featuring in the "Cheshire Collection" at this time. The Catholic and non-conformist stay within the collection........not sure of the reasoning here, I much prefer the old way of searching for Cheshire events. It would seem that FMP are trying to replicate the Ancestry way of searching. You'll need to try the search option for BMD's and parish records and try and filter for your needs, unless of course your ancestor was catholic or non-conformist - although I haven't looked to see if these particular records appear using both search options. regards, Elaine. Subject: [CHS] New Version of Find My Past Help!!! Maybe it's just a question of getting used to it but I'm having problems with searches on the new version of Find My Past. On the previous version, I could go straight to the Baptism Parish Records in the Cheshire Collection and if I entered 9for example) John Clare, b1766+ or- 2 years, place Witton - bingo - I got his baptism on 12 Oct 1766. Now I can't find it at all or much else for that matter!! I don't even seem able to restrict any searches by event type let alone place, it just churns out BMD's seemingly at random and for any dates it likes. Is anyone else having similar problems or is it just me. In hopeful anticipation of your help Tim Moore ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had great difficulty, but then I remembered the Cheshire online project. (http://cgi.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/) Now while you can't see the original documents, they do help if you know what parish to look in. Then you can go back to find my past and make a more thorough search. I have to admit, though, that I can't see how what they've done helps in any way. It's more of a hindrance Julie > From: odessa@dsl.pipex.com > To: tim.moore@konza.plus.com; CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 22:41:33 +0100 > Subject: Re: [CHS] New Version of Find My Past > > Hi Tim, > > I've had similar problems. It appears that FMP have decided to take the > Cheshire CofE baptisms, marriages and burials and lump them in with general > BMD's, so they are no longer featuring in the "Cheshire Collection" at this > time. The Catholic and non-conformist stay within the collection........not > sure of the reasoning here, I much prefer the old way of searching for > Cheshire events. > It would seem that FMP are trying to replicate the Ancestry way of > searching. You'll need to try the search option for BMD's and parish records > and try and filter for your needs, unless of course your ancestor was > catholic or non-conformist - although I haven't looked to see if these > particular records appear using both search options. > > regards, > Elaine. > > > > Subject: [CHS] New Version of Find My Past > > Help!!! > > Maybe it's just a question of getting used to it but I'm having problems > with searches on the new version of Find My Past. > > On the previous version, I could go straight to the Baptism Parish > Records in the Cheshire Collection and if I entered 9for example) John > Clare, b1766+ or- 2 years, place Witton - bingo - I got his baptism on > 12 Oct 1766. Now I can't find it at all or much else for that matter!! > I don't even seem able to restrict any searches by event type let alone > place, it just churns out BMD's seemingly at random and for any dates it > likes. > > Is anyone else having similar problems or is it just me. > > In hopeful anticipation of your help > > Tim Moore > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Tim, If you go to "Birth, marriage, death & Parish Records", click on the drop down list "All Collections", Select "Births & Baptisms" and enter the search info on that page (put Cheshire in the box immediately after "Britain") it is displayed. Joy ________________________________ From: Tim Moore <tim.moore@konza.plus.com> To: "CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com" <CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2014, 20:32 Subject: [CHS] New Version of Find My Past Help!!! Maybe it's just a question of getting used to it but I'm having problems with searches on the new version of Find My Past. On the previous version, I could go straight to the Baptism Parish Records in the Cheshire Collection and if I entered 9for example) John Clare, b1766+ or- 2 years, place Witton - bingo - I got his baptism on 12 Oct 1766.  Now I can't find it at all or much else for that matter!!  I don't even seem able to restrict any searches by event type let alone place, it just churns out BMD's seemingly at random and for any dates it likes. Is anyone else having similar problems or is it just me. In hopeful anticipation of your help Tim Moore ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Tim Yes, I cannot get any Baptism Parish Records or Marriages or special licences in the Cheshire Collection. I have written to FMP and they have said to send them my details of my ancestor and they will see what they can do. I decided to try it with some names which I already had from their previous website, but no luck. So await this space. Ann Harris

Help!!! Maybe it's just a question of getting used to it but I'm having problems with searches on the new version of Find My Past. On the previous version, I could go straight to the Baptism Parish Records in the Cheshire Collection and if I entered 9for example) John Clare, b1766+ or- 2 years, place Witton - bingo - I got his baptism on 12 Oct 1766. Now I can't find it at all or much else for that matter!! I don't even seem able to restrict any searches by event type let alone place, it just churns out BMD's seemingly at random and for any dates it likes. Is anyone else having similar problems or is it just me. In hopeful anticipation of your help Tim Moore

Hi All, I've just read the info and done the questionnaire - well worth the effort. It should give the authorities a very good idea of what they need to be doing if they want to make a success of the move. I would urge everyone to complete the questionnaire, including those of you who don't live in the UK. Regards Lesley Baxendale Colwyn Bay On 08/04/2014 22:01, Wendy Archer wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NEWMAN, Paul > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:54 PM > To: ARCHIVES-NRA@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Cheshire Archives and Local Studies: consultation on potential > relocation > > Please can you pass this to anyone you can think of who might be affected by > or have an interest in the potential relocation of Cheshire Archives and > Local Studies. The consultation runs until 30th June. > > > Cheshire West and Chester and Cheshire East Councils, in partnership with > Warrington and Halton Borough Councils and Livewire CIC, are consulting on > locations being considered as a potential new home for Cheshire Archives and > Local Studies service. The results of the consultation will be used to > support future decisions about any future home for the service. > > The current home for Cheshire’s archives, the Cheshire Record Office in > Chester, has been deemed inadequate by the National Archives and by elected > members within Cheshire West and Chester and Cheshire East Councils. 6 > locations within Cheshire West and Chester and Cheshire East have been > identified as potential homes for a new facility. > > Have your say at > > http://archives.cheshire.gov.uk/latest_news_and_events/relocation_consultation.aspx > > > > Thanks > > Paul > > Paul Newman > Archives and Local Studies Manager > Cheshire Archives and Local Studies > Cheshire Record Office > Duke Street > Chester > CH1 1RL > > Tel: 01244 972574 > Email: recordoffice@cheshiresharedservices.gov.uk > Visit: http://archives.cheshire.gov.uk > ************************************************************************ > Disclaimer: > > If you are not the intended recipient of this email (and any attachment), > please inform the sender by return email and destroy all copies. > Unauthorised access, use, disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted. > The views expressed by the author do not necessarily reflect the views or > policies of Cheshire West and Chester Borough Council. The Council cannot > guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free or has not been > intercepted and amended. You should perform your own virus checks. > Cheshire West and Chester Borough Council may monitor emails and as a public > sector organisation; the Council may disclose this email (or any response to > it) under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. > Contracts cannot be concluded with the Council nor service effected by > email, unless otherwise expressly agreed. The contents of this e-mail may be > subject to privilege. > ************************************************************************ > > Contact the list owner for assistance at ARCHIVES-NRA-request@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > > For information about joining, leaving and suspending mail (eg during a > holiday) see the list website at > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=archives-nra > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

In July 1964 54 girls left the Queen's School in Chester, Cheshire, at the age of 18 to go to university, college, hospitals or jobs at the start of their new lives. That was 50 years ago and in July 2014 I and a small group of others are trying to organise a reunion of as many of these fellow pupils as we can trace. We have found all but 7 of these girls after much searching through family history databases, Google,etc. Sadly of the original 54 ten have died. So can you help me to find the remaining 7 and their current whereabouts? These are the missing ones and what we know about them. 1. Rona McFadyen, went to Liverpool University to study chemistry, married John F Taylor in Chester and last known address in 1978 was in Stirling, Perth, Western Australia. 2. (Thelma) Elaine Reay, went to Edinburgh University to study English, married Alistair Shepherd in Eastham, Cheshire and last known address in Terrace, British Columbia. Mother died in BC in 2007. 3. Rosemary E Fairclough lived at Hartford Hall, Cheshire then in Cuddington. Married Brian M. F. Dolman in 1966. 4. Jennifer (Margery) North married Gerald Wyse in Chester in 1967 and possibly living Brigg, South Humberside. 5. Susan Griffith 6. Claire Rushton - lived in Runcorn 7. (Pauline) Jill Wilkins If you can help with any recent information about these people please reply to me directly at diana.leitch@googlemail.com Thank you. -- Dr Diana M. Leitch BSc, PhD, FRSC, Information Consultant.

An ancestor of mine, one Joseph James James, (yes, two James) b1864 Wilderspool, Cheshire, d.1943, shows on the 1911 census as having a wife Mary, and 6 children, all then alive in 1911. I have identified 5 of the children, Ann, Ada, Joseph, John, Lily, but the 6th child is an elusive mystery. I have obtained a copy of the 1901 census which shows the family at the bottom of the census page, and I am hopeful that there may have been a further child (or more) on the next page. I do not currently have Ancestry access to check this and wonder if there is someone who could check it for me, and if I am correct, maybe copy the page and send it to me? Much appreciated from the far flung Colony of Australia John Williams

-----Original Message----- From: NEWMAN, Paul Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:54 PM To: ARCHIVES-NRA@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Cheshire Archives and Local Studies: consultation on potential relocation Please can you pass this to anyone you can think of who might be affected by or have an interest in the potential relocation of Cheshire Archives and Local Studies. The consultation runs until 30th June. Cheshire West and Chester and Cheshire East Councils, in partnership with Warrington and Halton Borough Councils and Livewire CIC, are consulting on locations being considered as a potential new home for Cheshire Archives and Local Studies service. The results of the consultation will be used to support future decisions about any future home for the service. The current home for Cheshire’s archives, the Cheshire Record Office in Chester, has been deemed inadequate by the National Archives and by elected members within Cheshire West and Chester and Cheshire East Councils. 6 locations within Cheshire West and Chester and Cheshire East have been identified as potential homes for a new facility. Have your say at http://archives.cheshire.gov.uk/latest_news_and_events/relocation_consultation.aspx Thanks Paul Paul Newman Archives and Local Studies Manager Cheshire Archives and Local Studies Cheshire Record Office Duke Street Chester CH1 1RL Tel: 01244 972574 Email: recordoffice@cheshiresharedservices.gov.uk Visit: http://archives.cheshire.gov.uk ************************************************************************ Disclaimer: If you are not the intended recipient of this email (and any attachment), please inform the sender by return email and destroy all copies. Unauthorised access, use, disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted. The views expressed by the author do not necessarily reflect the views or policies of Cheshire West and Chester Borough Council. The Council cannot guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free or has not been intercepted and amended. You should perform your own virus checks. Cheshire West and Chester Borough Council may monitor emails and as a public sector organisation; the Council may disclose this email (or any response to it) under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. Contracts cannot be concluded with the Council nor service effected by email, unless otherwise expressly agreed. The contents of this e-mail may be subject to privilege. ************************************************************************ Contact the list owner for assistance at ARCHIVES-NRA-request@JISCMAIL.AC.UK For information about joining, leaving and suspending mail (eg during a holiday) see the list website at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=archives-nra

Hi Sandra, He is indexed as DERINGTON. HTH Christine -----Original Message----- From: sandra.bev@talktalk.net Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 4:44 PM To: CHESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] 1841 problem Hi List I have found an entry for Samuel Bevington on the 1841 census age 15 at Great Boughton, St Mary on the Hill - this is on Familysearch. I can't find this entry on Ancestry. Can anyone help please? Regards Sandra

Is he the lad listed as Berrington ? Good Luck Antony Lambert -----Original Message----- From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sandra.bev@talktalk.net Sent: 08 April 2014 16:45 To: CHESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] 1841 problem Hi List I have found an entry for Samuel Bevington on the 1841 census age 15 at Great Boughton, St Mary on the Hill - this is on Familysearch. I can't find this entry on Ancestry. Can anyone help please? Regards Sandra ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Antony - you're a star !! Regards Sandra

Hi Antony - many thanks for your prompt reply. Sorry this is not him. I have him in 1851 as follows . . . 1851 Bridge Street, Boarding School Yard, Chester Mary Bevington - head - wid - 58 - charwoman - b Tipperary Ireland Samuel - son - 25 - groom - b Chester Sarah - dau - 21 - servant - b Chester William - son - 18 - labourer railway - b Chester Mary - dau - 18 - servant - b Chester

Hi List I have found an entry for Samuel Bevington on the 1841 census age 15 at Great Boughton, St Mary on the Hill - this is on Familysearch. I can't find this entry on Ancestry. Can anyone help please? Regards Sandra

Hello John, On Ancestry, the next page of that census starts with a different family. I'm afraid that isn't going to give you any more information. Sorry about that! Cheers, Tony On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:27 AM, John Williams <cottonwood1942@bigpond.com>wrote: > An ancestor of mine, one Joseph James James, (yes, two James) b1864 > Wilderspool, Cheshire, d.1943, shows on the 1911 census as having a wife > Mary, and 6 children, all then alive in 1911. > I have identified 5 of the children, Ann, Ada, Joseph, John, Lily, but the > 6th child is an elusive mystery. > I have obtained a copy of the 1901 census which shows the family at the > bottom of the census page, and I am hopeful that there may have been a > further child (or more) on the next page. I do not currently have Ancestry > access to check this and wonder if there is someone who could check it for > me, and if I am correct, maybe copy the page and send it to me? > > Much appreciated from the far flung Colony of Australia > John Williams > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for this information, Adrian, the use of birthplace to delimit a search was always a joke on FMP, they will insist on using what they think the enumerator put rather than a real geographic place, but at least some of the time it helped to narrow the results, if only by county.   I have Cornish ancestors who dispersed all over the country in the 19th century to work in mines and quarries and the Cornish also tend to have patronymic surnames like Thomas and James so trying to locate someone who suddenly disappears from Cornwall is a nightmare.   Unfortunately, enumerators also seemed to be unable to cope with the Cornish accents so the birthplace is invariably gobblydygook.   I pointed out that FreeCEN has the ability to use a real corected location in birthplace whilst displaying the original version in another column and it was also possible to view the original on FMP if you needed to check it had been transcribed properly but to no avail.  I had one classic case where I sent them a correction and they rejected it as not being what the enumerator had put but notified me that when checking it they had realised it was wrong so they were going to change it.  So they corrected it from one non-existent location to another non-existent location! Joy ________________________________ From: Adrian Bruce <abruce@madasafish.com> To: 'Cheshire List' <cheshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 7 April 2014, 11:29 Subject: [CHS] Detailed search forms on FMP The Feedback Forum for FindMyPast contains lots of requests for things like searching censuses by birthplace. In fact, this is now possible - though FMP have not updated those feedback items I was looking at to say so. The problem is - you have to be looking in the right place. So... In case you've not twigged where it is... If you use menu item Search Records / Census land & surveys you get a BASIC search form that doesn't include birthplace. Even if you filter it by census, the form doesn't change. (It does claim to include a search by address) If you use menu item Search Records / Search All Records, then go to the Census link, then to the link to the specific census, you get a DETAILED search form that includes birth details, census ref., etc. Menu item Search Records / List all UK records seems to be the same as the above menu item Search Records / Search All Records. The 1911 and 1841 census reference systems are different from the 1851 thru 1901, of course(?), so they either don't work or don't work well on the FMP forms which use the same referencing system from 1841 thru 1911. So - the Search All Records or List all UK records menu sub-options give access to detailed forms for censuses at least. I wonder how many people realise this? In fairness to FMP, the existence of this detailed census form was blogged about but as I have said, if you need a manual to use one form, it's not working. I have also suggested that FMP update the menu options to make it clear where the detailed options are and / or provide links from the basic forms to the detailed forms. Even Ancestry makes it obvious how to get the detailed form! Adrian B ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message