The following updates have just been announced for CheshireBMD: ------------- Message from Ian Hartas, Cheshire. Hi, Cheshire BMD has been updated to add: Births: 2,016 for Urmston, registers at Trafford (1950-1951) 1,008 for Altrincham, registers at Trafford (1949-1950) 1,009 for Stretford, registers at Trafford (1956-1958) Marriages: 1,879 for Stockport Civil Marriage, registers at Stockport (2005-2007) 267 for Brinnington, St Luke, registers at Stockport (1972-1981) Many thanks to Geoff Oultram, Peter Greenwood and their respective colleagues for these. ------------ Forwarded by Bob Kirk Web address: http://kirksoft.co.uk/ Sent from my iPad

Dear Listers, Spelling Correction Above. I should have used my Brain. A bit more info on Raymond BRAIN It seems to have been a home for Orphans where they where., some time in the late 40's, 50's & Early 60's in Wallasey. His Sisters where Pauline and Barbara Brain. Betty Lawson wishes to get in Touch with them. Ron Fitzpatrick Adelaide South Australia +61 (08)82806474

Dear Listers, I am looking for the Death of my Grandmother. Elizabeth Jane Shannon FITZPATRICK Nee Howard (b.1879;m.1 Feb 1903) Maybe In Blenheim Road Edgemont. Thanking you all in advance Ron Fitzpatrick South Australia

Stockport Library has a 'Heritage Library' section so you could try sending them a copy of the photo and some details (there's a link on the Stockport Council website). They're really helpful at the library and I'm sure they'll be up for the challenge, they have extensive archives - I found Woodford school record books there from the early 1900s. Regards, Anne -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Genda Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:32 AM To: Cheshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] Girl's school photograph - Stockport? I have a black and white photograph taken of a class in a girls school somewhere in the Stockport area - no name, no date (and that's the bad news) - but what it does have are the names of mistresses and pupils written on the back (and that's the good news). Two of my aunts are in the photograph. It would have been taken at some time between 1904 and 1908 I think. I know that my aunts were living in Poynton in 1901 and in Cheadle Hulme in 1911. They also spent some time in Edgeley, Stockport, as siblings were born there during those years - unless there was a maternity unit of some kind there. The photograph shows the girls and the mistresses in a uniform of sorts. It consists of a floor-length white or light-coloured apron over a dark day dress with white elbow-to-wrist oversleeves and caps worn by the two teachers. The girls are dressed similarly but with no cap and they do show a bit of leg! They all appear to be of what we now call 'secondary age'. There is no background to identify the place where the photograph would have been taken. So. can anyone help in identifying the school? I am happy to attach a copy in a private email to anyone who thinks they may have an ancestor/relative in the list below. Or perhaps someone knows of a central archive for old school photographs such as this which may be able to identify the school from the uniform and/or the teacher's names. Here goes: Mistresses: Miss LIPTROT Miss PARKES Students: Row1 (back): E. FROGGATT G.COCKS D.HYNES S.SHELMERDINE A.RAMSEAS M.LOMAS J.HALL B.COCKS A.BOLLINGTON D.CROMPTON J.RAWLINSON E.M.FLETCHER(aunt1 b1891) M.BROCKLEHURST NICO[sic] C.ALDRED M.DAVIES F.LOMAS M.SOWERBUTTS G.WILSON N.WOOD D.LEAH M.MAYES A.YATES Row2 M.SMITH H.WOOD D.ALDRED G.TOWN M.YOUDE M.LEES F.BROWN E.JEPSON E.ROBINSON M.DEAVILLE T.or S.MANLEY Row3 B.BELL L. PICKTHALL M.FLETCHER(aunt2 b1893) L.BARRODALE L.BUXTON G.CONSTABLE M.HEMPHILL E.WARLEY E.LUGDEN D.DUGDALE B.LYONS B.WITTALL E.KAY D.DOOLEY A.MARGESON Row4 E.BAILEY J.NICHOLSON A.WILLIAMSON M.GREY D.GOULD C.AYR E.KNIGHTON A.GOULDEN L.BULLOCK A TAYLOR Row5 (front) M.DAWSON E.HODGSON J.BEELEY E.PONTEFRACT K.CUNNINGHAM E.MORLEY C.BEELEY D.YATES D.PEAKE I would be grateful for any pointers. Ruth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, On behalf of a Fellow Orphan of the above in America, I am looking for the Family of Ray Brain, his Sisters and their Decedents. Mainly in the Edgemont area. Ron Fitzpatrick South Australia

<<snipped>> Just in case any of you have 'issues' with the latest version of Mozilla Firefox for Windows 7, which now looks and behaves more like Google Chrome. Not much to see ... <<snipped>> What annoyed me was that they "stole" the Title Bar. To restore it, you can use menu View / Toolbars / Customise (it's not the only way there....) and then down at the bottom, as if they deliberately want you to miss it, there is an icon for "Title Bar" - press that and you'll get the Title Bar back saying "Firefox", etc... (Or you'll remove it if it's already showing!) I know the idea is to "let the page take front stage", but from a support viewpoint it's absolute lunacy. Imagine the dialog with a typical user: "So which browser are you using?" "err...", "Well, what does it say at the top of the window?" "Oh, it says Amazon!" Rant over! Adrian

Don't know if anyone has asked on the local family lists but I posted this on a couple of RAF forums. Collision of Halifaxes LL297 and LL186 of 518 Squadron, Tiree 16 August 1944 I was just reading in the Oban Times that a memorial is being erected to the crews of LL296 and LL186 who died 16th August 1944 near Tiree. The memorial is to be unveiled and dedicated at 13:25h on 16th August 2014 (same time as the accident happened). They have traced the families of 15 of the 16 killed but have been unable to trace any relatives of Kenneth Williams. Presumably this is him WILLIAMS, KENNETH Rank: Sergeant Trade: Flt. Engr. Service No: 2209196 Date of Death: 16/08/1944 Age: 22 Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 518 Sqdn. Grave Reference Sec. A. C. of E. Grave 497. Cemetery BEBINGTON (PLYMYARD) CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of Herbert and Jessie Williams Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk

Hi All, Just in case any of you have 'issues' with the latest version of Mozilla Firefox for Windows 7, which now looks and behaves more like Google Chrome. Not much to see, lots of the control buttons are hidden out of sight in drop menus, which isn't always an easy thing to navigate. By installing a few add ons, you can get close to where you started, but it just seems to slow everything down. I tried Pale Moon, another free browser which is based on the older Firefox and looks similar and works in pretty much the same way. You can keep all your Firefox settings, so nothing much changes from what you've been used to. It's also pretty fast. So far so good, the only issue I had was that the import settings didn't work for Firefox, so I just copied the whole of my Firefox profile folder over to the appropriate Pale Moon directory and all is well. C:\Users\__name__\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles copied to C:\Users\__name__\AppData\Roaming\Moonchild Productions\Pale Moon\Profiles So far so good, everything seems to work as it should - I've even made it my default browser. if you're interested, just 'google' Pale Moon Browser and the link should appear near the top of the results. I've no connection BTW - just a frustrated Firefox user who came across this quite by accident! Regards Lesley Baxendale Colwyn Bay

Hi Following on from another post about schools and teachers, I was wondering if anyone had any information, or a photo, relating to Miss DUROSE who taught I believe at Mount Tabour school and later Alexandra Park school in Stockport. I live in Stockport, but my Durose line are from Nottingham, and then further back, from Uttoxetor in Staffs. Whenever I mention the name Durose someone will tell me that they remember a Miss Durose. I am pretty sure she is from the family, because it is a rare name and we are all related somehow. It would be nice to know a bit more about her - all I know is that she had a brother and sister, and the brother went out to Port Stanley. TIA Lxx

Hi Ruth I don't have any of those names, or know of the school, although I live in Stockport. However, I have some friends with identical or very similar names, who live in Cheadle Hulme. So I will pass this email on to them. Lxx On 22 May 2014 00:32, Ruth Genda <ruthgenda@btinternet.com> wrote: > I have a black and white photograph taken of a class in a girls school > somewhere in the Stockport area - no name, no date (and that's the bad > news) > - but what it does have are the names of mistresses and pupils written on > the back (and that's the good news). Two of my aunts are in the > photograph. > It would have been taken at some time between 1904 and 1908 I think. I > know > that my aunts were living in Poynton in 1901 and in Cheadle Hulme in 1911. > They also spent some time in Edgeley, Stockport, as siblings were born > there > during those years - unless there was a maternity unit of some kind there. > > The photograph shows the girls and the mistresses in a uniform of sorts. > It > consists of a floor-length white or light-coloured apron over a dark day > dress with white elbow-to-wrist oversleeves and caps worn by the two > teachers. The girls are dressed similarly but with no cap and they do show > a bit of leg! They all appear to be of what we now call 'secondary age'. > There is no background to identify the place where the photograph would > have > been taken. > > So. can anyone help in identifying the school? I am happy to attach a copy > in a private email to anyone who thinks they may have an ancestor/relative > in the list below. Or perhaps someone knows of a central archive for old > school photographs such as this which may be able to identify the school > from the uniform and/or the teacher's names. Here goes: > > Mistresses: Miss LIPTROT Miss PARKES > > Students: > > Row1 (back): E. FROGGATT G.COCKS D.HYNES S.SHELMERDINE A.RAMSEAS > M.LOMAS J.HALL B.COCKS A.BOLLINGTON D.CROMPTON J.RAWLINSON > E.M.FLETCHER(aunt1 b1891) M.BROCKLEHURST NICO[sic] C.ALDRED > M.DAVIES > F.LOMAS M.SOWERBUTTS G.WILSON N.WOOD D.LEAH M.MAYES A.YATES > > Row2 M.SMITH H.WOOD D.ALDRED G.TOWN M.YOUDE M.LEES F.BROWN > E.JEPSON E.ROBINSON M.DEAVILLE T.or S.MANLEY > > Row3 B.BELL L. PICKTHALL M.FLETCHER(aunt2 b1893) L.BARRODALE > L.BUXTON G.CONSTABLE M.HEMPHILL E.WARLEY E.LUGDEN D.DUGDALE > B.LYONS B.WITTALL E.KAY D.DOOLEY A.MARGESON > > Row4 E.BAILEY J.NICHOLSON A.WILLIAMSON M.GREY D.GOULD C.AYR > E.KNIGHTON A.GOULDEN L.BULLOCK A TAYLOR > > Row5 (front) M.DAWSON E.HODGSON J.BEELEY E.PONTEFRACT > K.CUNNINGHAM > E.MORLEY C.BEELEY D.YATES D.PEAKE > > > > I would be grateful for any pointers. > > Ruth > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have a black and white photograph taken of a class in a girls school somewhere in the Stockport area - no name, no date (and that's the bad news) - but what it does have are the names of mistresses and pupils written on the back (and that's the good news). Two of my aunts are in the photograph. It would have been taken at some time between 1904 and 1908 I think. I know that my aunts were living in Poynton in 1901 and in Cheadle Hulme in 1911. They also spent some time in Edgeley, Stockport, as siblings were born there during those years - unless there was a maternity unit of some kind there. The photograph shows the girls and the mistresses in a uniform of sorts. It consists of a floor-length white or light-coloured apron over a dark day dress with white elbow-to-wrist oversleeves and caps worn by the two teachers. The girls are dressed similarly but with no cap and they do show a bit of leg! They all appear to be of what we now call 'secondary age'. There is no background to identify the place where the photograph would have been taken. So. can anyone help in identifying the school? I am happy to attach a copy in a private email to anyone who thinks they may have an ancestor/relative in the list below. Or perhaps someone knows of a central archive for old school photographs such as this which may be able to identify the school from the uniform and/or the teacher's names. Here goes: Mistresses: Miss LIPTROT Miss PARKES Students: Row1 (back): E. FROGGATT G.COCKS D.HYNES S.SHELMERDINE A.RAMSEAS M.LOMAS J.HALL B.COCKS A.BOLLINGTON D.CROMPTON J.RAWLINSON E.M.FLETCHER(aunt1 b1891) M.BROCKLEHURST NICO[sic] C.ALDRED M.DAVIES F.LOMAS M.SOWERBUTTS G.WILSON N.WOOD D.LEAH M.MAYES A.YATES Row2 M.SMITH H.WOOD D.ALDRED G.TOWN M.YOUDE M.LEES F.BROWN E.JEPSON E.ROBINSON M.DEAVILLE T.or S.MANLEY Row3 B.BELL L. PICKTHALL M.FLETCHER(aunt2 b1893) L.BARRODALE L.BUXTON G.CONSTABLE M.HEMPHILL E.WARLEY E.LUGDEN D.DUGDALE B.LYONS B.WITTALL E.KAY D.DOOLEY A.MARGESON Row4 E.BAILEY J.NICHOLSON A.WILLIAMSON M.GREY D.GOULD C.AYR E.KNIGHTON A.GOULDEN L.BULLOCK A TAYLOR Row5 (front) M.DAWSON E.HODGSON J.BEELEY E.PONTEFRACT K.CUNNINGHAM E.MORLEY C.BEELEY D.YATES D.PEAKE I would be grateful for any pointers. Ruth

How old where the people when they died. Could they have been Single or where they Still Births. Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of railton.david@btinternet.com Sent: Sunday, 18 May 2014 5:25 a.m. To: cheshire@rootsweb. com; ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] Burial Registers Can anyone tell me what the significance of the letter 'S' is when shown alongside a burial register record? Someone has suggested to me that this signifies he was a soldier; someone else suggested suicide. This was a Church of England burial in 1918. David Railton

Hi It could be that it is a single burial in the grave, ie the sole person in the grave but without access to the register to see what other entries say, and to see if there was some sort of pattern or what other letters are used (if any), it could mean anything. Andy -----Original Message----- From: Christine Tregonning Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:59 AM To: 'Cheshire List' Subject: Re: [CHS] Burial Registers How old where the people when they died. Could they have been Single or where they Still Births. Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of railton.david@btinternet.com Sent: Sunday, 18 May 2014 5:25 a.m. To: cheshire@rootsweb. com; ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] Burial Registers Can anyone tell me what the significance of the letter 'S' is when shown alongside a burial register record? Someone has suggested to me that this signifies he was a soldier; someone else suggested suicide. This was a Church of England burial in 1918. David Railton ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could S. be as simple as "south" = south part of the burial ground? Jacqui ________________________________________ From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com <cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Andy <andycandlish@ozemail.com.au> Sent: 18 May 2014 01:31 To: Christine Tregonning; 'Cheshire List' Subject: Re: [CHS] Burial Registers Hi It could be that it is a single burial in the grave, ie the sole person in the grave but without access to the register to see what other entries say, and to see if there was some sort of pattern or what other letters are used (if any), it could mean anything. Andy -----Original Message----- From: Christine Tregonning Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:59 AM To: 'Cheshire List' Subject: Re: [CHS] Burial Registers How old where the people when they died. Could they have been Single or where they Still Births. Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of railton.david@btinternet.com Sent: Sunday, 18 May 2014 5:25 a.m. To: cheshire@rootsweb. com; ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] Burial Registers Can anyone tell me what the significance of the letter 'S' is when shown alongside a burial register record? Someone has suggested to me that this signifies he was a soldier; someone else suggested suicide. This was a Church of England burial in 1918. David Railton ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me what the significance of the letter 'S' is when shown alongside a burial register record? Someone has suggested to me that this signifies he was a soldier; someone else suggested suicide. This was a Church of England burial in 1918. David Railton

<<snipped>> I'd be grateful for advice on the interpretation of the following burial record as I can't see how to contact the project directly: PARISH CODE BUNB DATED 6651010 FORENAME RANDLE SURNAME *JUDSON SEX M INF_SNAME *JUDGSON ADDITIONAL INFORMATION *JUDGSON :A SERVANT FROM SPURSTO HALL I'm not clear on the 'INF_SNAME. Does it mean that Randle Judson was an infant, as I understood that this term was usually applied to a baby, or was he a young boy who was a servant at Spurstow Hall? On the other hand was the servant at Spurstow Hall his father? <<snipped>> Odd that - http://cgi.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/Live/v3.6/gindex.html lists the database columns (fields) for the burial table and lists inf_fname_1 inf_sname_1 inf_res_1 inf_fname_2 inf_sname_2 inf_res_2 But does not explain what they are! I am puzzled but I can tell you that the PR (parish code BUNB) reads [1665 Oct] 10 Randle Judson a serv't from [Spurstow] hall (OK - I cheated reading "Spurstow" - I just used the CPRDB text!) While the BT (parish code BUNA) reads: [1665 Oct] Randle Judgson of Spurstow So there are two spellings of the surname, so "inf" may well mean "inferred" as suggested. By the way - stand by for a dose of irony / sarcasm from me - according to some people I shouldn't be able to find this on FMP. Funny that - I did - in one shot. Adrian B

Hi I would guess that INF_SNAME is inferred surname and related to the spelling in the information section Julie Sent from my iPad > On 17 May 2014, at 12:44, Ruth Appleby <orange.wasps@live.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi Don > > My interpretation is: > > Parish: Bunbury > Date: 10 October 1665 > > The surname is recorded as Judson, although it could be Judgson (sometimes names have optional spellings). It seems that Randle was a servant from Spurstow Hall, near Tarporley. > > The CPRP website, I believe, has explanations of the field names which can be reached from the home page. > > Ruth > >> From: don.tomkinson@lineone.net >> To: CHESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 11:46:49 +0100 >> Subject: [CHS] CHESHIRE PR PROJECT >> >> I'd be grateful for advice on the interpretation of the following burial >> record as I can't see how to contact the project directly: >> >> PARISH CODE BUNB >> DATED 6651010 >> FORENAME RANDLE >> SURNAME *JUDSON >> SEX M >> INF_SNAME *JUDGSON >> ADDITIONAL >> INFORMATION *JUDGSON :A SERVANT FROM SPURSTO HALL >> >> I'm not clear on the 'INF_SNAME. Does it mean that Randle Judson was an >> infant, as I understood that this term was usually applied to a baby, or was >> he a young boy who was a servant at Spurstow Hall? On the other hand was the >> servant at Spurstow Hall his father? >> >> DON TOMKINSON >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Don My interpretation is: Parish: Bunbury Date: 10 October 1665 The surname is recorded as Judson, although it could be Judgson (sometimes names have optional spellings). It seems that Randle was a servant from Spurstow Hall, near Tarporley. The CPRP website, I believe, has explanations of the field names which can be reached from the home page. Ruth > From: don.tomkinson@lineone.net > To: CHESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 11:46:49 +0100 > Subject: [CHS] CHESHIRE PR PROJECT > > I'd be grateful for advice on the interpretation of the following burial > record as I can't see how to contact the project directly: > > PARISH CODE BUNB > DATED 6651010 > FORENAME RANDLE > SURNAME *JUDSON > SEX M > INF_SNAME *JUDGSON > ADDITIONAL > INFORMATION *JUDGSON :A SERVANT FROM SPURSTO HALL > > I'm not clear on the 'INF_SNAME. Does it mean that Randle Judson was an > infant, as I understood that this term was usually applied to a baby, or was > he a young boy who was a servant at Spurstow Hall? On the other hand was the > servant at Spurstow Hall his father? > > DON TOMKINSON > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'd be grateful for advice on the interpretation of the following burial record as I can't see how to contact the project directly: PARISH CODE BUNB DATED 6651010 FORENAME RANDLE SURNAME *JUDSON SEX M INF_SNAME *JUDGSON ADDITIONAL INFORMATION *JUDGSON :A SERVANT FROM SPURSTO HALL I'm not clear on the 'INF_SNAME. Does it mean that Randle Judson was an infant, as I understood that this term was usually applied to a baby, or was he a young boy who was a servant at Spurstow Hall? On the other hand was the servant at Spurstow Hall his father? DON TOMKINSON

<<snipped>> I am seeking a soldier who was invalided home in 1934. I can find no useful information for this period on either FMP or Ancestry could SKS point me at a source for this period of time please. <<snipped>> All personnel information for soldiers in service from 1920(ish) onwards is still held by the Ministry of Defence and is not on general release. Have a look at the 1920-present section of the TNA Guide on http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/britisharmysol dierafter1913.htm Note that applying to the MoD takes time, costs money and is subject to confidentiality restrictions. Especially if you have no death certificate for the person. Now - having said all that.... FindMyPast recently loaded "Royal Artillery attestations", described as "taken from enlistment books which were maintained by British Army regiments between 1883 and 1942". I am sure these specific books date from the 1920s onward, starting with all RA soldiers in service in 1920ish. The books only give about 4 lines of data per soldier, with major dates only, but given that conventional wisdom was that there was nothing outside the MoD, this is interesting. If you Google "enlistment books" or "Army Book 358" or similar, you find that several regimental museums have similar books. You might find something interesting if you know the regiment, but it'd need to be a personal visit to the museum. Adrian B