Thanks Bob and Juliet for your detailed information. With this help I ordered the certificate. Also tracked down his parents wedding record based on names on the passenger manifest. George came to the US at 9 so his parents are known. Hooray for more pieces of the puzzle! On Aug 15, 2014 5:39 PM, "Robert Hartley via" <cheshire@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I missed an important detail off the website address in my previous > message. It should read www.lancashirebmd.org.uk > > All the best, > Bob Hartley. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All, In 1911 Frank WHITTAKER b 1902, Macclesfield is living with John WHITTAKER b 1835, Macclesfield and is shown as his adopted son. I can find no birth records that correspond, suggesting that his birth name was not WHITTAKER. There are plenty of marriages that may be a possibility, but no way I can find to check them. And no matching parish records online that I can check. Can anyone "claim" this Frank, or has anyone "lost" a Frank? Can anyone suggest any way to find out more about him? Any help greatly appreciated Christine

Hello, This is not in Cheshire, but I'm hoping for advice concerning finding an actual birth record based on an index. I found the birth index record for my great-grandfather - please see below. How do I go about obtaining a copy of the actual birth record? Any assistance would be appreciated! England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription Learn more <http://search.findmypast.com/record?id=bmd%2fb%2f1861%2f4%2faz%2f000213%2f099&highlights=%22%22#learn-more> Print individual transcription View image <http://search.findmypast.com/record?id=bmd%2fb%2f1861%2f4%2faz%2f000213&parentid=bmd%2fb%2f1861%2f4%2faz%2f000213%2f099> First name(s)GEORGE WATTSLast nameCLIFFEBirth year1861Birth quarter4Registration month-Mother's last name-DistrictSADDLEWORTHCountyYorkshireCountryEngland Volume9APage222Record setEngland & Wales births 1837-2006CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)Record collectionBirths & baptismsCollections fromUnited Kingdom

Tim, Ruloe is near Crowton. William Earl was probably the local farmer. Cheers, Lyn At 11:48 15/08/2014, you wrote: >Is there anyone on this list that can help with original script for the >above Abraham and Isaac Mullinex (Molyneux) baptised 9 Feb 1711 in >Weaverham, Northwich. The original image on FMP reads:- > >"Abraham and Isaac Mullinex sons of John Mullinex a Traveller who were >born at William Earls of Roolow and were baptized February the ninth". > >Does anyone know who William Earl was or where Roolow was or could it be >William, Earl of Roolow? > >Any thoughts or further information would be greatly appreciated. >Regards >Tim > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4007/8039 - Release Date: 08/15/14

Is there anyone on this list that can help with original script for the above Abraham and Isaac Mullinex (Molyneux) baptised 9 Feb 1711 in Weaverham, Northwich. The original image on FMP reads:- "Abraham and Isaac Mullinex sons of John Mullinex a Traveller who were born at William Earls of Roolow and were baptized February the ninth". Does anyone know who William Earl was or where Roolow was or could it be William, Earl of Roolow? Any thoughts or further information would be greatly appreciated. Regards Tim

Bill, I have a copy opf the 1842 Bramhall NW tithe map (Frank and Terretta Mitchell). You can copy it with pleasure but I do not want to lose it. Regards Eric Millward ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4007/8033 - Release Date: 08/14/14

Bill, I have a copy opf the 1842 Bramhall NW tithe map (Frank and Terretta Mitchell). You can copy it with pleasure but I do not want to lose it. Regards Eric Millward ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4007/8033 - Release Date: 08/14/14

On 06/08/2014 01:57, Irene Coutts via wrote: > Would someone on the list be able to tell me if G.G. Murray were photographers in Birkenhead or Liverpool, and if so when. > I have an oval shaped photo of a lady (head and shoulders) on cardboard and that name is etched into the cardboard. > Guess I would be looking at late 1800's or early 1900's. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Irene > Australia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > . > A "very" quick look here <http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=liverpoolgenealo;id=4;url=http%3A%2F%2Ffreepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2F%7Eliverpoolphotographers%2F> http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=liverpoolgenealo;id=4;url=http%3A%2F%2Ffreepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2F~liverpoolphotographers%2F didn't show them, but Google for "g g murray" photographer brings a link to a photo of a mayor of Brunswick Victoria c 1927-28 held at the State Library Victoria taken by G G Murray, so perhaps its a bit closer to home? HTH Ruth

Apologies for the slow response to Lynda mailing on the Cheshire and 'oooppss' on the Staffordshire Lists - life got in the way - but now here are more of my thoughts: bear with me. I really liked Lynda's suggestion of looking for funding for a Social History Memorability Project/Collection. I like it because it supports the concept of the universality of family history so clearly shown in the book (Liberty's Dawn' by Emma Griffin). There is always a dichotomy found in Family History research. Each family is unique within itself whilst being generic at its core and I have discovered that actually, by sharing other families' experiences and memories, I'm able to get a clearer picture of my own. I've found myself punching the air and yelling 'Yes, yes' as I read Griffin's words. The evidence she cites supports and gives credence to my half confirmed suspicions, doubtful memories and unconnected memorabilia within my own family. So, prompted by the book and Lynda's suggestion, I was thinking of a collection of a wider range of material than Family Bibles which, on the whole, give names, relationships and dates but little else. I note from oooppss that there are already several websites which relate to Family Bibles but they are largely commercial sites and not quite what I, or I believe Lynda, had in mind. Also, I'm fuelled on a personal level. I'm currently concerned with all my own families memorabilia - mostly inherited - and what will become of it when I shuffle off . I'm one of those with almost no close relatives, and the few that I have show no interest (as yet). So to clarify I've made a list of just some of my possessions - sadly no diaries - which might be kept/copied in such a Collection. . My paternal g-grandfather's (1817-1882) notebook containing his sermon notes, gleanings and jottings used in his role as a local preacher in the United Methodist Free Church, Bradford, Manchester which he was instrumental in setting up in 1850 (offered to but declined by Manchester Local Studies Centre, St Peter's). . My maternal grandmother's (1872-1941) national school (Poynton) exercise book. . My father's (1889-1956) Nature Diary (private school in Poynton). . My father's autobiography detailing his early childhood in Poynton, education at Manchester Grammar & University, emigration and early working years in the Canadian Bank of Commerce, his return to enlist in WW1 and his later years farming in Derbyshire. . An aunt's (1893-1926) photographs and letters written on her journey to France as a member of the WAAC in WW1. She served as a telephonist. . My maternal g-grandfather's (1839-1893) Ancient Order of Shepherd's regalia and Treasurer's account book (successfully donated to Manchester Record Office). . Paternal Family Bible (19-20thC). . Paternal Victorian Family Photograph Album (19thC). . Various autograph books, scrapbooks, letters, funerary cards, - even clothing. I'm drowning! I can't be the only one with similar material - there must be many of us. I recognise that I'm moving the goalposts to those of Social History rather than simple Family History but in the national Museums and Archive Collections the somewhat rougher, tougher, everyday history of the Commoner often gets overlooked and ultimately lost. Maybe - just maybe - we could recover some of it. Anything recorded on paper could be relatively easily put on a website. The technology is there but it comes at a cost. I'm thinking on . Ruth

The following updates has recently been announced for CheshireBMD ------------ Message from Ian Hartas, Cheshire. Hi, Cheshire BMD has been updated to add: Births: 1,500 for Altrincham, registers at Trafford (1954-1956) 500 for Sale, registers at Trafford (1956-1957) 1,281 for Stockport First, registers at Stockport (1966-1967) Many thanks to Peter Greenwood, Geoff Oultram and their respective colleagues for these. ------------ Forwarded by: Bob Kirk Web address: http://kirksoft.co.uk/ Sent from my iPad

Would their be some kind soul living in the region of the Knutsford Cemetery, (Tabley Hill), that would be able to obtain a picture of my gr-grandmothers grave. Jessie Rogers aged 81 buried in grave 3113 plot F. I can send a picture of the cemetery to indicate where this area is. Thanking you David Hall New Zealand

I have a copy of Lancashire Professional Photographers 1840-1940 by Gillian Jones (which includes Liverpool) and no Murray is listed, sorry, Marie in Cheshire

Many thanks to Joy and Michael for their help with my query on G.G. Murray, Photographer, who it turns out was in Melbourne, Australia and not Birkenhead. Thanks again Irene

THe following updates have just been announced for CheshireBMD: ------------ Message from Ian Hartas, Cheshire. Hi, Cheshire BMD has been updated to add: Marriages: 263 for Cheadle, St Mary, registers at Stockport (1998-2014) 262 for Heaton Reddish, St Mary, registers at Stockport (1990-2009) 1,069 for Stockport Civil Marriage, registers at Stockport (2009-2010) Many thanks to Peter Greenwood and colleagues for these. ------------ forwarded by: Bob Kirk Penrith Cumbria www.Kirksoft.me.uk http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk Have Fun & Look Wide Bob Kirk Penrith Cumbria www.Kirksoft.me.uk http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk

Would someone on the list be able to tell me if G.G. Murray were photographers in Birkenhead or Liverpool, and if so when. I have an oval shaped photo of a lady (head and shoulders) on cardboard and that name is etched into the cardboard. Guess I would be looking at late 1800's or early 1900's. Any help would be appreciated. Irene Australia

Hello Irene There is a published list of photographers in Cheshire 1840-1940 taken from Trade Directories but it does not include G.G. Murray so I would guess that you probably need to be looking in Liverpool. You can try using the Historical Directories of England & Wales web site http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/cdm/landingpage/collection/p16445coll4 to search for your photographer. Mike Shropshire, UK ________________________________________________ On 06/08/2014 01:57, Irene Coutts via wrote: > Would someone on the list be able to tell me if G.G. Murray were photographers in Birkenhead or Liverpool, and if so when. > I have an oval shaped photo of a lady (head and shoulders) on cardboard and that name is etched into the cardboard. > Guess I would be looking at late 1800's or early 1900's. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Irene > Australia

All names in the roll call are slightly above or below 1900 and in or around Birkenhead Quinn Henshall McKenzie Cowlishaw Hill Broadfoot Jefferson Dave, Canada

Andy, Thanks for your response. This certainly looks to be "my" Mary Hannah. Joseph Corker (or Parker as the 1911 census has it) was her nephew, son of her older sister Catherine. I had looked on the Cheshire RO wills site, without any luck. I will have to look the National Probate Register up for future reference. Once again many thanks, Bob. In a message dated 04/08/2014 19:50:37 GMT Daylight Time, andycandlish@ozemail.com.au writes: Hi Bob According to the National Probate Calender Mary Hannah Burgess of 97 Carlton Road, Witton Park, Northwich Cheshire, spinster, died 30th May 1952 at The General Hospital Warrington Probate Chester 23rd July to Joseph Corker retired assistant buyer. Effects 219GBP 7s 2d Andy -----Original Message----- From: Bob12743 via Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 9:42 PM To: bruckshaw1@tiscali.co.uk ; cheshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHS] Mary Hannah Burgess b.1869 Hi Eric, Thanks for replying, "My" Mary Hannah is ruled out by the fact that the lady on BMD was married. Mary Hannah was recorded as aged 41, unmarried and head of household, on the 1911 census for Northwich. However Familysearch shows the burial, in Northwich, of a Mary Hannah Burgess in 1952 aged 82 (which makes more arithmetic sense, as she was born in 1869, than looking at 1942). I will have to get myself down to Northwich Library & have a look at the micro-fiches to see what I can find. Regards, & thanks, Bob. In a message dated 04/08/2014 12:21:51 GMT Daylight Time, bruckshaw1@tiscali.co.uk writes: Bob, A Mary Hannah BURGESS is on the 1911 census at Romiley (adjacent to Bredbury) aged 51, wife of Edward. However she is recorded as being born in Stockport so it may be that this is the person whose death you found on ChesBMD and that she is not the one you are looking for. The oldest child on the 1911 census was born about 1891 so the marriage may have been about that date but there had been 2 other children who had died before 1911. Check for a marriage for Edward to a Hannah around 1880-1890. I also suggest checking earlier censuses to confirm the birth location. A school headmistress would perhaps be more likely to be unmarried and as you have a birth date (as BURGESS?) it would suggest that she was a spinster at death. Good luck Eric Millward ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4744 / Virus Database: 3986/7978 - Release Date: 08/04/14 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bob According to the National Probate Calender Mary Hannah Burgess of 97 Carlton Road, Witton Park, Northwich Cheshire, spinster, died 30th May 1952 at The General Hospital Warrington Probate Chester 23rd July to Joseph Corker retired assistant buyer. Effects 219GBP 7s 2d Andy -----Original Message----- From: Bob12743 via Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 9:42 PM To: bruckshaw1@tiscali.co.uk ; cheshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHS] Mary Hannah Burgess b.1869 Hi Eric, Thanks for replying, "My" Mary Hannah is ruled out by the fact that the lady on BMD was married. Mary Hannah was recorded as aged 41, unmarried and head of household, on the 1911 census for Northwich. However Familysearch shows the burial, in Northwich, of a Mary Hannah Burgess in 1952 aged 82 (which makes more arithmetic sense, as she was born in 1869, than looking at 1942). I will have to get myself down to Northwich Library & have a look at the micro-fiches to see what I can find. Regards, & thanks, Bob. In a message dated 04/08/2014 12:21:51 GMT Daylight Time, bruckshaw1@tiscali.co.uk writes: Bob, A Mary Hannah BURGESS is on the 1911 census at Romiley (adjacent to Bredbury) aged 51, wife of Edward. However she is recorded as being born in Stockport so it may be that this is the person whose death you found on ChesBMD and that she is not the one you are looking for. The oldest child on the 1911 census was born about 1891 so the marriage may have been about that date but there had been 2 other children who had died before 1911. Check for a marriage for Edward to a Hannah around 1880-1890. I also suggest checking earlier censuses to confirm the birth location. A school headmistress would perhaps be more likely to be unmarried and as you have a birth date (as BURGESS?) it would suggest that she was a spinster at death. Good luck Eric Millward ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4744 / Virus Database: 3986/7978 - Release Date: 08/04/14 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob, A Mary Hannah BURGESS is on the 1911 census at Romiley (adjacent to Bredbury) aged 51, wife of Edward. However she is recorded as being born in Stockport so it may be that this is the person whose death you found on ChesBMD and that she is not the one you are looking for. The oldest child on the 1911 census was born about 1891 so the marriage may have been about that date but there had been 2 other children who had died before 1911. Check for a marriage for Edward to a Hannah around 1880-1890. I also suggest checking earlier censuses to confirm the birth location. A school headmistress would perhaps be more likely to be unmarried and as you have a birth date (as BURGESS?) it would suggest that she was a spinster at death. Good luck Eric Millward ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4744 / Virus Database: 3986/7978 - Release Date: 08/04/14