Good Evening List, I am trying to find the coroner's report on the death of Ann Dunbar who died 3 Jan 1892 at the Infirmary Stockport. The death certificate indicates that details were sourced from the coroner's report dated 5 Jan 1892. Can someone suggest where I should search for the Coroner's Report? Regards, Ian Dunbar

I've just checked my account as I have a worldwide membership and it's £143 for next year!!!I think I may go back to the GB only membership at that price. Judy From: Vanessa Dixon <vanessal.dixon@btinternet.com> To: Andy <andycandlish@ozemail.com.au>; Rootsweb <CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013, 10:25 Subject: Re: [CHS] Cheshire records on Findmypast His subscription is Worldwide, but only $59.99 which is cheap, so may be this doesn't include PR's Vanessa    All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ ________________________________ From: Andy <andycandlish@ozemail.com.au> To: Vanessa Dixon <vanessal.dixon@btinternet.com>; Rootsweb <CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013, 1:28 Subject: Re: [CHS] Cheshire records on Findmypast Hi Findmypast offers different subscriptions in a similar way to Ancestry. findmypast.com offers 2 choices, a US data subscription or a worldwide subscription. It sounds like your friend took out the US data subscription. To access UK only data then you need to subscribe through Findmypast.co.uk. Andy -----Original Message----- From: Vanessa Dixon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:19 AM To: Rootsweb Subject: [CHS] Cheshire records on Findmypast A friend of mine, who lives in Canada, has just taken out a subscription to Findmypast in the belief that he would be able to view the Cheshire PR's, unfortunately he finds he can't. His subscription is with FindMyPast.com, does anyone know why he can't access the Cheshire PR's? Vanessa ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It appears that this message may not have reached other members. If anyone could help to ensure it does I would be very grateful. It is urgent. Many thanks, Diana Leitch ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Diana Leitch <diana.leitch@googlemail.com> Date: 11 September 2013 12:48 Subject: DIDSBURY OPEN DOORS WITH CHESHIRE LINKS To: CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com Cc: "Mrs L. McCulloch" <lyn.mcculloch@btinternet.com>, Diana Leitch < diana.leitch@googlemail.com> Dear Fellow Family Historians, As a Cheshire girl born and bred I know that Didsbury, on the other side of the Mersey where I now live, has always, and still is, in Lancashire. However, there are so many connections with Cheshire people and places I thought I would point out a few things you can see over Didsbury Open Doors Heritage Weekend which is coming up on Saturday and Sunday 14th and 15th September. For full details of the 15 places which can be visited and various activities see www.didsburycivicsociety.org.uk. However, don't miss a visit to St James' Church on Stenner Lane, M20 2RQ where there is a special 60th anniversary Coronation Exhibition of local people's memories of 1953 celebrating the fact that the Queen is descended from several Cheshire families including a Mayor of Stockport, a Bishop of Chester, the Lord of the Manor of Manchester, the original owner of Bolesworth Castle,etc. Fletcher Moss, who wrote all the books about visits to houses in Cheshire and Staffordshire, and his effect on the life of Didsbury and the surrounding area will be covered in a special talk I am giving on Saturday 14th September at 6pm at St James' Church. Finally, the house, The Towers, where the Manchester Ship Canal papers were signed in 1888 and the Georgian Pump House of MMU will also be open. Maybe many Cheshire teachers trained at this site when it was Didsbury College of Education. This will be your last chance to visit as MMU pulls out next summer. If you are involved in Open Days in your own area this weekend, as I suspect many of you are, then there is a Coronation Organ Recital on Thursday 12th September at 6pm for 6.30pm in St James' Church which would allow you to see this famous Grade II* 13th century church and its exhibition before the weekend. Hope to see some of you. Kind regards, Diana M. Leitch Dr Diana M. Leitch BSc, PhD, FRSC, Local and Family Historian Information Consultant. -- Dr Diana M. Leitch BSc, PhD, FRSC, Information Consultant.

Hi Findmypast offers different subscriptions in a similar way to Ancestry. findmypast.com offers 2 choices, a US data subscription or a worldwide subscription. It sounds like your friend took out the US data subscription. To access UK only data then you need to subscribe through Findmypast.co.uk. Andy -----Original Message----- From: Vanessa Dixon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:19 AM To: Rootsweb Subject: [CHS] Cheshire records on Findmypast A friend of mine, who lives in Canada, has just taken out a subscription to Findmypast in the belief that he would be able to view the Cheshire PR's, unfortunately he finds he can't. His subscription is with FindMyPast.com, does anyone know why he can't access the Cheshire PR's? Vanessa

His subscription is Worldwide, but only $59.99 which is cheap, so may be this doesn't include PR's Vanessa    All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ ________________________________ From: Andy <andycandlish@ozemail.com.au> To: Vanessa Dixon <vanessal.dixon@btinternet.com>; Rootsweb <CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013, 1:28 Subject: Re: [CHS] Cheshire records on Findmypast Hi Findmypast offers different subscriptions in a similar way to Ancestry. findmypast.com offers 2 choices, a US data subscription or a worldwide subscription. It sounds like your friend took out the US data subscription. To access UK only data then you need to subscribe through Findmypast.co.uk. Andy -----Original Message----- From: Vanessa Dixon Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:19 AM To: Rootsweb Subject: [CHS] Cheshire records on Findmypast A friend of mine, who lives in Canada, has just taken out a subscription to Findmypast in the belief that he would be able to view the Cheshire PR's, unfortunately he finds he can't. His subscription is with FindMyPast.com, does anyone know why he can't access the Cheshire PR's? Vanessa

At 09:19 AM 13/09/2013, Vanessa Dixon wrote: >A friend of mine, who lives in Canada, has just taken out a >subscription to Findmypast in the belief that he would be able to >view the Cheshire PR's, unfortunately he finds he can't. His >subscription is with FindMyPast.com, does anyone know why he can't >access the Cheshire PR's? Hi Vanessa I'm not sure about this, but I live in Australia where I took out a sub with findmypast.co.uk some time ago. Now and then I get a message which states that as I live in Australia perhaps I should be using findmypast.co.au which I ignore. As our friend lives in Canada I am wondering if his sub does not include some of the UK items such as parish registers? My sub allows me to do that. I checked a few minutes ago and Cheshire BDMs came up instantly. He should go back to FMP and query them. Graham Melbourne Oz

I believe that coroners' reports were often destroyed. You may be more fortunate with contemporary newspaper reports. Eric Millward

From: "Ian Dunbar" <idunbar@iinet.net.au> > I am trying to find the coroner's report on the death of Ann Dunbar who died > 3 Jan 1892 at the Infirmary Stockport. > > > > The death certificate indicates that details were sourced from the coroner's > report dated 5 Jan 1892. > > > > Can someone suggest where I should search for the Coroner's Report?> Survival of coroner's reports is very patchy and often they don't survive because they could be destroyed after only 15 years. I suppose you could try the Cheshire Record Office but you would probably be better off looking for a report in a local newspaper. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

 A friend of mine, who lives in Canada, has just taken out a subscription to Findmypast in the belief that he would be able to view the Cheshire PR's, unfortunately he finds he can't. His subscription is with FindMyPast.com, does anyone know why he can't access the Cheshire PR's? Vanessa  All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/

Thank you everyone for such a wonderful lot of help in the search for Charles Birtles brother to my husband's ggg grandfather John. Both emigrated to NSW, Australia in 1844 but until now I did not know that Charles existed. Your help was very much appreciated. Regards Joan

Joan, this is the nearest I could find, but they were still in Manchester in the 1851 census 1841 Census Newbury Street & Courts, Manchester LAN Saml Birtles, 50, Sells BarmNot bn Lan (Knutsford CHS) 1851 - 61, barm dealer Anne Birtles, 50, Bn LAN (Colme YKS) 1851 - 60 housekeeper Saml Birtles Jun, 20, Spindle Maker, Not bn LAN (Knutsford) 1851 - 34 cotton spinner mar to Margaret with chn. living elsewhere Charles Birtles, 15, Cotton Weaver, Not bn LAN (Knutsford) 1851 - 26 weaver Thos Birtles, 11, Cotton Weaver, Not bn LAN (Knutsford) 1851 - 21 weaver Cheers Sandra On 12/09/2013 3:10 PM, Joan Birtles wrote: > Good afternoon listers, > > > > Could I ask if a lister has access to the 1841 census for Congleton in the > parish of Astbury, Cheshire please. >

Thanks to all - I now have my answer! Juliet -----Original Message----- From: Mrs L. McCulloch Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:11 PM To: cheshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] 1841 census entry I agree with Elaine. It says Husband Boatman and was then crossed out. Very often you find 'Wife of whatever the husband's occupation was, even when they are at home. Regards, Lyn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with Elaine. It says Husband Boatman and was then crossed out. Very often you find 'Wife of whatever the husband's occupation was, even when they are at home. Regards, Lyn

Hi Juliet, I'm not sure, but I also think the first letter is a "H" - from looking at the enumerator's script in other entries. So my suggestion is that a remark has been made by the enumerator "Husband Boatman" Not knowing the family - was there a husband, and was he living at this time? He would more likely be the boatman (although it would not be an impossibility for a widow to take over a boat) I'm more use to an enumerator making the comment "head of the house away from home" but each to there own.........and maybe it was considered an inappropriate entry and was therefore struck through. regards, Elaine. -----Original Message----- From: juliet Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:23 PM To: CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] Help with words on 1841 census I am struggling to read something on a census image and wonder is someone with 1841 census access of ancestry could help. Its in the profession column alongside ANN EVANS age 40 at Bebington HO107; Piece: 125; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Bebington; County: Cheshire; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 12; Page: 19; Line: 17; GSU roll: 241253. I could post the link to the image but it is huge. Is comes straight up searching on Ann Evans born 1801 exactly, location Cheshire and its the 3rd one on the list. The first word begins with H and the second work looks like Boatman but I cannot make it out. I would be very grateful for some ideas, as it may help me work out if I have the right family. Thanks very much Juliet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would say it is Master Boatman, but as said before it is crossed out as an error has been made Vanessa    All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ ________________________________ From: Lesley Baxendale <tree.dovercourt17@googlemail.com> To: cheshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2013, 14:58 Subject: Re: [CHS] Help with words on 1841 census Hi Juliet, I've had a look at the image on FMP.  I thought at first it said "Master Boatman", but on closer inspection and comparison with other names on the page, I think the top word begins with H.  I have no idea what it could be, but the two words are bracketed together, so it's one title. It's then crossed out, indicating that it might be an error on the part of the enumerator.  I wonder if it concerned her husband rather than Ann herself? Hope this helps. Lesley Baxendale Colwyn Bay On 12/09/2013 14:23, juliet wrote: > I am struggling to read something on a census image and wonder is someone > with 1841 census access of ancestry could help. > Its in the profession column alongside ANN EVANS age 40 at Bebington > HO107; Piece: 125; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Bebington; County: Cheshire; > Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 12; Page: 19; Line: 17; GSU roll: 241253. > I could post the link to the image but it is huge. > Is comes straight up searching on Ann Evans born 1801 exactly, location > Cheshire and its the 3rd one on the list. > The first word begins with H and the second work looks like Boatman but I > cannot make it out. > > I would be very grateful for some ideas, as it may help me work out if I > have the right family. > Thanks very much > Juliet > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good afternoon listers, Could I ask if a lister has access to the 1841 census for Congleton in the parish of Astbury, Cheshire please. I have found a Charles Birtles in this parish which is the area where my husband's ancestors were from in the 19th & 18th C, but this is the first time we have come across a Charles. On the LDS site a Charles Birtles is shown as a 15 year old in the household in Congleton in the parish of Astbury. My husband's direct ancestors left Congleton, Cheshire and arrived in NSW, Australia in 1844 as Bounty Immigrants. Charles above also arrived in 1844 from Cheshire but on a different ship and a few months earlier. Charles is shown as an 18 year old, a bootmaker on his immigration record into NSW. I am wondering if he is another member of the family I have missed. Thank you for any help. Joan

Hi Juliet, I've had a look at the image on FMP. I thought at first it said "Master Boatman", but on closer inspection and comparison with other names on the page, I think the top word begins with H. I have no idea what it could be, but the two words are bracketed together, so it's one title. It's then crossed out, indicating that it might be an error on the part of the enumerator. I wonder if it concerned her husband rather than Ann herself? Hope this helps. Lesley Baxendale Colwyn Bay On 12/09/2013 14:23, juliet wrote: > I am struggling to read something on a census image and wonder is someone > with 1841 census access of ancestry could help. > Its in the profession column alongside ANN EVANS age 40 at Bebington > HO107; Piece: 125; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Bebington; County: Cheshire; > Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 12; Page: 19; Line: 17; GSU roll: 241253. > I could post the link to the image but it is huge. > Is comes straight up searching on Ann Evans born 1801 exactly, location > Cheshire and its the 3rd one on the list. > The first word begins with H and the second work looks like Boatman but I > cannot make it out. > > I would be very grateful for some ideas, as it may help me work out if I > have the right family. > Thanks very much > Juliet > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am struggling to read something on a census image and wonder is someone with 1841 census access of ancestry could help. Its in the profession column alongside ANN EVANS age 40 at Bebington HO107; Piece: 125; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Bebington; County: Cheshire; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 12; Page: 19; Line: 17; GSU roll: 241253. I could post the link to the image but it is huge. Is comes straight up searching on Ann Evans born 1801 exactly, location Cheshire and its the 3rd one on the list. The first word begins with H and the second work looks like Boatman but I cannot make it out. I would be very grateful for some ideas, as it may help me work out if I have the right family. Thanks very much Juliet

Hi Joan, I have sent an image to you off list. He was mis-indexed. However there is also a Charles b c 1827, Stockport who married Maria in 1871 who I can't find in any other census so he could possibly the same one. The Charles b c 1828 Knutsford, father Samuel married Hannah I have ruled out, he appears to be the same Charles in several instances. But there is also a Charles b c 1827 tried in Cheshire on 29 Mar 1848 for burglary and acquitted who could be the same one as either above. I have also sent 2 shipping records which show Charles as a farm labourer. But that would appear to be the Charles to which you are referring. Hope this helps, Christine -----Original Message----- From: Joan Birtles Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:10 AM To: CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] 1841 CENSUS CHESHIRE Good afternoon listers, Could I ask if a lister has access to the 1841 census for Congleton in the parish of Astbury, Cheshire please. I have found a Charles Birtles in this parish which is the area where my husband's ancestors were from in the 19th & 18th C, but this is the first time we have come across a Charles. On the LDS site a Charles Birtles is shown as a 15 year old in the household in Congleton in the parish of Astbury. My husband's direct ancestors left Congleton, Cheshire and arrived in NSW, Australia in 1844 as Bounty Immigrants. Charles above also arrived in 1844 from Cheshire but on a different ship and a few months earlier. Charles is shown as an 18 year old, a bootmaker on his immigration record into NSW. I am wondering if he is another member of the family I have missed. Thank you for any help. Joan

Hello Listers I have just rejoined your list looking for another possible BIRTLES ancestor. I have had great success in the past with the Cheshire Parish Register Project but I am unable to access it now with the site I have bookmarked. If the site has been changed, could a lister please send me the link to this project. Kind regards Joan in NSW, Australia