<<snipped>> pretty sure Cheadle was one of the six parishes refused permission. Someone from our Society will have a better memory than me for the names of the others. <<snipped>> Oh - six?! That passed me by completely.... Thanks for that - it is not impossible that I have hit others in the six and just imagined it was a case of that single PR being lost. So that's: - Astbury - no PRs on FMP but one can buy a CD of the PRs. BTs on FMP; - Cheadle, St Mary - no PRs on FMP it seems. PRs seem to be scheduled for Cheshire PR DB in next load. BTs on FMP; - Northenden - out of scope for FMP Cheshire Collection as not in Diocese of Chester - so may or may not be one of the six. Northenden St. Wilfred is part of the Manchester Collection on Ancestry, so nothing is lost; All suggestions about the other missing parishes welcome... There is an FS coverage table on http://goo.gl/VtpWzU This is not guaranteed to provide a full answer as it bundles all churches in a single town together - e.g. it does not split the Chester parishes. Also it is unclear if it's a PR-and-BT coverage table or a PR coverage table. As Astbury has only 2 records, this suggests it is a PR coverage table. However, there are odd chapels in there that I find it difficult to explain unless it's the BTs that are counted. But if I *swiftly* compare this table to Brett Langston's 2002 book on Cheshire PRs, then I add the following comments: - Guilden Sutton, St John, is not in the table so may be omitted from the Cheshire Collection on FMP. - Hoylake, Holy Trinity, is not in the table. - North Rode is not in the table - PRs may remain at church. This might be the missing three omissions??? But there were numerous other small churches founded recently where the PRs were still (in 2002) at the church, explaining their omission from the Cheshire Collection on FMP. I have not listed those. Anyone who can correct errors and omissions please shout! Adrian

Hi The catalogue for Cheshire Archives does suggest they have the Parish Registers. It would be worth checking whether the LDS actually digitised them. I seem to recall somebody saying that a small number of Parish Registers weren't digitised as either the originals were too fragile or permission was refused. Andy -----Original Message----- From: Ruth J Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 8:33 PM To: Cheshire ; abruce@madasafish.com Subject: [CHS] Cheadle Parish Registers and FS / FMP Adrian, it is definitely not HICKSTOCK but PICKSTOCK. Compare the initial letter with a marriage in the opposite column on 5 Septem between William Pinnington and Jane Plant. It looks as though the transcriber of the PR to BT first wrote Isac PICKSTOCK then realised he needed a second 'a' in Isaac's name and overwrote it thereby crashing into the last name. The tail of the letter 'P' can clearly be seen. The LDS transcriber has then made an error. This doesn't help you find the PR though. A short emailed request to Cheshire RO might result in you finding out what has happened to the PR - if it is still in existence - and, if the register is with them in their archive, an archivist may do a look-up for you too. Ruth

Oh *well* *done* Ruth. I'd blown up the image and was looking for another "P" but not finding any. Maybe there are, further up or down the page. Of course, working that close, I'd forgotten there was a left-hand column! Many thanks for that.... Which leaves me with wondering just who the father, Isaac PICKSTOCK, is. There aren't many Isaac Pickstocks in Cheshire and the only candidates are firmly in Northwich in 1796. I'm suspicious that in fact this is really Isaac PICKSTONE - someone of that name is buried in Cheadle in 1813, aged 58. Adrian ________________________________ From: Ruth J [mailto:ruthgenda@btinternet.com] Sent: 21 December 2013 09:33 To: Cheshire; abruce@madasafish.com Subject: Cheadle Parish Registers and FS / FMP Adrian, it is definitely not HICKSTOCK but PICKSTOCK. Compare the initial letter with a marriage in the opposite column on 5 Septem between William Pinnington and Jane Plant. It looks as though the transcriber of the PR to BT first wrote Isac PICKSTOCK then realised he needed a second 'a' in Isaac's name and overwrote it thereby crashing into the last name. The tail of the letter 'P' can clearly be seen. The LDS transcriber has then made an error. This doesn't help you find the PR though. A short emailed request to Cheshire RO might result in you finding out what has happened to the PR - if it is still in existence - and, if the register is with them in their archive, an archivist may do a look-up for you too. Ruth

I thought this might be of interest to anyone who has ancestors who were in the Cheshire Militia in the Napoleonic Wars.  I am reading a diary kept by a man in Moretonhampstead, Devon from 1799-1830.  He noted the following in 1799:   Mon. May 20th. Two of the second Cheshire Militia came here from Tavistock with intelligence of that Regiment’s going to March in 4 divisions through Moreton, and Chagford, in their way to Horsham Barracks in Sussex. Wed. May 22nd. 1 O’Clock P.M. March’d in a part of the first division of the 2nd Cheshire Militia, the division consisted of 240, of which 80 were march’d to Chagford. Thur. May 23rd. The Cheshire Militia halted, the Baggage lodged in the Shambles. Fri. May 24th. 1st Division of the Cheshire Militia march’d for Exeter and about noon the 2nd Division march’d in. Sat. May 25th The 2nd Division march’d for Exeter and the 3rd came in under the command of Lieut Colonel Sir Peter Warburton. Sun. May 26th. the 3rd Division halted Mon. May 27th. The 3rd Division march’d for Exeter and 4th arrived. Tue. May 28th. The 4th Division march’d for Exeter the whole Regt. consisted of about 900 men. Although the diary describes events in Devon, it is a fascinating account of life in a town during the period with soldiers marching in and out of town, the pressgang visiting etc. so worth a look.  There are some quite amusing accounts among the list of deaths: http://www.moretonhampstead.org.uk/texts/sources/trelchron.ghtml   Merry Christmas,   Joy

On sale at abebooks for £12 Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Dec 2013, at 12:42, "Elaine Hanson" <odessa@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > > Does anyone happen to have a copy of this book? > > I have been using the copy at Northwich Library only to find that there is a page missing – and yes, you guessed, the page I need! > > I have the following from page 22 “In January 1870, the Church was called to mourn the death of Edward Rothwell, who had for more than twenty years faithfully served it as deacon. He was a man of good” ................ > > I would like to know what comes next! > > Can anyone help please? > > Elaine. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone happen to have a copy of this book? I have been using the copy at Northwich Library only to find that there is a page missing – and yes, you guessed, the page I need! I have the following from page 22 “In January 1870, the Church was called to mourn the death of Edward Rothwell, who had for more than twenty years faithfully served it as deacon. He was a man of good” ................ I would like to know what comes next! Can anyone help please? Elaine.

Cheadle PR Transcripts were in final edit stage at the Cheshire Parish Register Project on 24 Nov. 2013: http://cgi.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ In the absence of available digital images, these transcripts will be the next best thing when they eventually go on line. -Martin On 21/12/2013 10:27, TamesideFamilyHistory wrote: > You're right Andy, pretty sure Cheadle was one of the six parishes refused permission. Someone from our Society will have a better memory than me for the names of the others. > > Very Best Wishes > > GAY > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 21 Dec 2013, at 10:17, "Andy" <andycandlish@ozemail.com.au> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> The catalogue for Cheshire Archives does suggest they have the Parish >> Registers. It would be worth checking whether the LDS actually digitised >> them. I seem to recall somebody saying that a small number of Parish >> Registers weren't digitised as either the originals were too fragile or >> permission was refused. >> >> Andy >> -- "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth." (Psa.37) Web: http://www.biblewitness.org

You're right Andy, pretty sure Cheadle was one of the six parishes refused permission. Someone from our Society will have a better memory than me for the names of the others. Very Best Wishes GAY Sent from my iPad On 21 Dec 2013, at 10:17, "Andy" <andycandlish@ozemail.com.au> wrote: > Hi > > The catalogue for Cheshire Archives does suggest they have the Parish > Registers. It would be worth checking whether the LDS actually digitised > them. I seem to recall somebody saying that a small number of Parish > Registers weren't digitised as either the originals were too fragile or > permission was refused. > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ruth J > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 8:33 PM > To: Cheshire ; abruce@madasafish.com > Subject: [CHS] Cheadle Parish Registers and FS / FMP > > Adrian, it is definitely not HICKSTOCK but PICKSTOCK. Compare the initial > letter with a marriage in the opposite column on 5 Septem between William > Pinnington and Jane Plant. It looks as though the transcriber of the PR to > BT first wrote Isac PICKSTOCK then realised he needed a second 'a' in > Isaac's name and overwrote it thereby crashing into the last name. The tail > of the letter 'P' can clearly be seen. The LDS transcriber has then made an > error. > > This doesn't help you find the PR though. A short emailed request to > Cheshire RO might result in you finding out what has happened to the PR - if > it is still in existence - and, if the register is with them in their > archive, an archivist may do a look-up for you too. > > Ruth > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Adrian, it is definitely not HICKSTOCK but PICKSTOCK. Compare the initial letter with a marriage in the opposite column on 5 Septem between William Pinnington and Jane Plant. It looks as though the transcriber of the PR to BT first wrote Isac PICKSTOCK then realised he needed a second 'a' in Isaac's name and overwrote it thereby crashing into the last name. The tail of the letter 'P' can clearly be seen. The LDS transcriber has then made an error. This doesn't help you find the PR though. A short emailed request to Cheshire RO might result in you finding out what has happened to the PR - if it is still in existence - and, if the register is with them in their archive, an archivist may do a look-up for you too. Ruth

Thanks for trying Alan. (FMP's interface is strange - ask it to search PRs and it gives you everything - PRs, BTs, and marriage licences, despite them supposedly being different options). I've just been randomly trying other types and dates and still fail to find any Cheadle PRs - though it's hardly been a comprehensive search. In my (probably fallible) memory I thought I'd read none other than Brett Langston saying only Astbury and Northenden were missing from the Cheshire collection on FMP - Astbury because the parish retained the PRs and Northenden because it's actually in the Diocese of Manchester so out of scope. Cheadle St. Mary is in the Diocese of Chester but it's beginning to look like that should be added to the list... "Unless, of course, you know different..." Adrian -----Original Message----- From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bennett Sent: 20 December 2013 12:57 To: 'Cheshire List' Subject: Re: [CHS] Cheadle Parish Registers and FS / FMP I tried the browse route in FMP to only search PRs and it still gave me the image of the BT Alan -----Original Message----- From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Bruce Sent: 20 December 2013 12:25 To: 'Cheshire List' Subject: [CHS] Cheadle Parish Registers and FS / FMP Anyone know if the parish registers for Cheadle St. Mary can be found on FindMyPast? Specifically, baptisms for 1796? And if so, how? ....

I wonder if because these records where moved if it now explains why my relatives were baptised twice. The second time was many years after their first baptism from around 1818 in Cheadle to 1839 in Denton the same date in 1839 as his brother James who was also born in Cheadle. The following is what I have on this person. Mike Morris Toronto Canada. Christening:  03 MAR 1839  St Lawrence, Denton, Lancashire, England Batch No. C171341     The above is confusing , It was from the IGI site and gives the above batch number, The parents  Henry and Maria PARSONAGE could be correct but the date is many years out. A friend checked this record out and said these were in the parish records. (Not copied from another source) There were no dates of birth or any mention of the fact that they were children or adults. A copy of this parish record showing Samuel and brother James where baptised on the same date. A  copy of a trade directory for 1817 Manchester shows a Henry Parsonage a Plumber and Glazier #5 Brewer street in Manchester. So Samuel was born perhaps after the move from Brewer street. Samuel was born around 1818. He married in the July of 1842. Its a long shot but I wonder if he was christened late in life before he married. He was christened the same date as his brother James, but married in a different church at a different date. Its possible the church Samuel was christened in was St. Mary (C of E)  in Cheadle. An ancient parish, originally comprising the townships of Cheadle Bulkeley, Cheadle Moseley, and Handforth cum Bosden. Registers of baptisms 1558-1880, marriages 1558-1913 and burials 1558-1911 are on microfilm at the CRO. Samuel was born in 1818 in Cheadle, Cheshire per the Denton 1851, 1861 and 1871 census. Samuel was listed as age 20 in the 1841 Denton census.  During this census ages were rounded out , its possible that Samuel was age 23 during this census. Ref No .HO 107 581/4 Ed 3 folio 8 . On Friday, December 20, 2013 3:45:12 PM, Adrian Bruce <abruce@madasafish.com> wrote: >Thanks for trying Alan. (FMP's interface is strange - ask it to search PRs >and it gives you everything - PRs, BTs, and marriage licences, despite them >supposedly being different options). > >I've just been randomly trying other types and dates and still fail to find >any Cheadle PRs - though it's hardly been a comprehensive search. > >In my (probably fallible) memory I thought I'd read none other than Brett >Langston saying only Astbury and Northenden were missing from the Cheshire >collection on FMP - Astbury because the parish retained the PRs and >Northenden because it's actually in the Diocese of Manchester so out of >scope. Cheadle St. Mary is in the Diocese of Chester but it's beginning to >look like that should be added to the list... "Unless, of course, you know >different..." > > >Adrian > >-----Original Message----- >From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Alan Bennett >Sent: 20 December 2013 12:57 >To: 'Cheshire List' >Subject: Re: [CHS] Cheadle Parish Registers and FS / FMP > >I tried the browse route in FMP to only search PRs and it still gave me the >image of the BT > >Alan > >-----Original Message----- >From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Adrian Bruce >Sent: 20 December 2013 12:25 >To: 'Cheshire List' >Subject: [CHS] Cheadle Parish Registers and FS / FMP > > >Anyone know if the parish registers for Cheadle St. Mary can be found on >FindMyPast? Specifically, baptisms for 1796? And if so, how? >.... > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I tried the browse route in FMP to only search PRs and it still gave me the image of the BT Alan -----Original Message----- From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Bruce Sent: 20 December 2013 12:25 To: 'Cheshire List' Subject: [CHS] Cheadle Parish Registers and FS / FMP Anyone know if the parish registers for Cheadle St. Mary can be found on FindMyPast? Specifically, baptisms for 1796? And if so, how? I know that the Bishops' Transcripts are there as I found this entry: Forenames: Joseph Surname: Hickstock ... Christening Date: 01 May 1796 ... Location: Cheadle, Cheadle Father's Forenames: Isaac Father's Surname: Hickstock Mother's Forename: Mother's Surname: Parish: City or Town: Cheadle County: Cheshire Record source: Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms Looking at the image of the entry, I'm convinced it isn't "HICKSTOCK" and is possibly one of my elusive PICKSTOCK relatives. Normally, I would check the PR - but I cannot find it on FS or FMP. I had hoped to find a baptism close in date and then browse to mine, but have had no luck doing that. According to Brett Langston's details on http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/churches/cheadle-st%20mary.html the original registers are at Chester and have been filmed. Maybe they haven't been put into the Cheshire Collection? Anyone understand what's going on? Are just odd pages missing or am I wasting my time? (There's a suspicious gap from 1774-1792 in Brett's table...) Thanks Adrian B PS - Cheadle appears to be next to be loaded onto the Cheshire PR DB.... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anyone know if the parish registers for Cheadle St. Mary can be found on FindMyPast? Specifically, baptisms for 1796? And if so, how? I know that the Bishops' Transcripts are there as I found this entry: Forenames: Joseph Surname: Hickstock ... Christening Date: 01 May 1796 ... Location: Cheadle, Cheadle Father's Forenames: Isaac Father's Surname: Hickstock Mother's Forename: Mother's Surname: Parish: City or Town: Cheadle County: Cheshire Record source: Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms Looking at the image of the entry, I'm convinced it isn't "HICKSTOCK" and is possibly one of my elusive PICKSTOCK relatives. Normally, I would check the PR - but I cannot find it on FS or FMP. I had hoped to find a baptism close in date and then browse to mine, but have had no luck doing that. According to Brett Langston's details on http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/churches/cheadle-st%20mary.html the original registers are at Chester and have been filmed. Maybe they haven't been put into the Cheshire Collection? Anyone understand what's going on? Are just odd pages missing or am I wasting my time? (There's a suspicious gap from 1774-1792 in Brett's table...) Thanks Adrian B PS - Cheadle appears to be next to be loaded onto the Cheshire PR DB....

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Was the information I sent you of any use? Mike Morris Toronto Canada On Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:21:19 AM, Mike Morris <morrisind@rogers.com> wrote:    > >________________________________ > > >________________________________ > >

My name is Danny CROTHERS. I live in Wynyard, a town on the north-west coast of Tasmania. My wife, Jo, is a granddaughter of a couple who left Manchester for Western Australia in 1910: Fred and Annie BROUGH. Names from Fred's side: LAND, CRANE, RUGEN. Names from Annie's (nee POWELL) side: KNIGHT, COCKER, GRIMSHAW. The main places: Hurst, Ashton-under-Lyne, Stretford, Chorlton, Salford. I have many photos from theatrical productions in which Fred and Annie participated in Manchester - 14 of the featured actors are named, including Ryder Boys, with whom Fred trained. Also 60 photos of unidentified people who are probably family members. I also have the transcript of radio programs Annie broadcast in Hobart, Tasmania, in 1934. She spoke of Manchester and their experiences as pioneer farmers in the wheatfields of WA. I am in the process of turning these transcripts into a book. As a means of identifying the people in the photos, I am hoping to find a way of discovering with whom Annie stayed on a return visit to England in 1938. The address of the people with whom she stayed was: Linden, Wilcott Drive, Fulshaw Park, Manchester. I am aware Fulshaw Park is in Cheshire - I have seen the street on Google Maps, but couldn't see any sign with Linden. I wonder if it is possible to trace ownership in 1938 through electoral rolls, post office lists...? Any help gratefully accepted. I am happy to share everything I have. Regards Danny Crothers

Hi There is a dealer on the Wirral who goes by the name of “Cheshire Deltiology” who could be worth pursuing. Carole > From: dtgilligan@hotmail.co.uk > Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:54:22 +0000 > To: cheshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CHS] Northen Etchells/Wythenshawe > > Hello > > I am in the process of compiling a book about Northen Etchells/Wythenshawe and I would like to appeal to members for any photographs/postcards of this area taken between 1870-1970. Even pictures/postcards of places like Gatley, Cheadle, Northenden and Styal etc would be welcome. > > It's a long shot and I am not that hopeful but if anyone has anything I would be grateful if they would contact me. > > The photographs/images would be acknowledged and a donation made to Francis House Children's Hospice. > > Thank you > > David Gilligan > > Sent from my iPad > --------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I might have some photos of Baguley somewhere. Would those be OK? I was brought up there. Catherine Pritchard Cardiff

Hello I am in the process of compiling a book about Northen Etchells/Wythenshawe and I would like to appeal to members for any photographs/postcards of this area taken between 1870-1970. Even pictures/postcards of places like Gatley, Cheadle, Northenden and Styal etc would be welcome. It's a long shot and I am not that hopeful but if anyone has anything I would be grateful if they would contact me. The photographs/images would be acknowledged and a donation made to Francis House Children's Hospice. Thank you David Gilligan Sent from my iPad --------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Lynda, Just to complicate things I have found another Checkley New Farm near Tarporley! Thanks for your help. Lyn At 07:46 11/12/2013, you wrote: >Just in case it may help - have you also checked (oooh) under >Checkley cum Wrinehill? > >Best wishes > >Lynda Burke > > >On 10 December 2013 17:36, Mrs L. McCulloch ><<mailto:lyn.mcculloch@btinternet.com>lyn.mcculloch@btinternet.com> wrote: >Any locals who can tell me more about this farm?I see it was derelict >in 2009. Is it still derelict? >Is Checkley Wood Shoot based there or somewhere else? >I notice there is also a Checkley New Farm in the same lane. >Just want to get details accurate for the Cheshire Farm Index. >Many thanks, >Lyn > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ><mailto:CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com>CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >the body of the message > > >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - <http://www.avg.com>www.avg.com >Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6910 - Release Date: 12/11/13