I'm surprised that when discussing the virtues and vices of Family History programmes the conversation revolves about how easy they are to use and how nice the charts are that they produce. From my point of view the great failing of the programme I have is that it doesn't have plentiful records to access once you get your family genealogy to earlier than 1837. My other complaint is that the records it has are often not very well transcribed and, when you point out an error or send a spelling correction, it is not acted upon. Can we have a useful discussion about which programmes have access to the most pre-1837 records? David Gregory

Or there is a Haslington not far from Crewe. I have not been able to look at the image of the records to interpret the locations. Sarah On 25/02/2014 09:01, "Carl Rogerson" <carl@carlscam.com> wrote: > There Harlington a village in Bedfordshire, about 15 miles south of Bedford? > > In the late 1700s it would have been close to one of the main stagecoach > routes between Cheshire and London. > > Carl. > > > > On 02/25/14 07:03, Christine Tregonning wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I am wondering if anyone can help me or tell me whether I am on the right >> track. >> >> I am researching my STUBBS family and I have a Matthew STUBBS who marries a >> widow by the name of Mary WARBURTON in 1764 at Witton. Matthew STUBBS dies >> in 1775. In 1777 a Mary STUBBS marries a Richard NIELD. It is easy to >> assume that this Mary is the widow of Matthew especially as both Matthew and >> Richard lived at a place called Lordship. >> >> I am keen to confirm this as well as the maiden name of Mary who married >> Matthew STUBBS. Mary who married Richard NIELD appears to be the daughter >> of Hugh and Martha BROOM who resided at a place called Harlington which I >> have been unable to locate. >> >> So I am looking for a marriage of a Mary BROOM to a WARBURTON. I can't find >> one and don't know where to look. I did find a Mary BROWN who I thought >> looked promising and I found a Thomas WARBURTON who died in 1764 but this >> Thomas appears to have died before Mary WARBURTON married Matthew. >> >> Any ideas or assistance would be appreciated. >> >> Regards, >> >> Christine >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

How about Haslington near Crewe, Cheshire? Eric Millwaard ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7123 - Release Date: 02/24/14

There Harlington a village in Bedfordshire, about 15 miles south of Bedford? In the late 1700s it would have been close to one of the main stagecoach routes between Cheshire and London. Carl. On 02/25/14 07:03, Christine Tregonning wrote: > Hello, > > I am wondering if anyone can help me or tell me whether I am on the right > track. > > I am researching my STUBBS family and I have a Matthew STUBBS who marries a > widow by the name of Mary WARBURTON in 1764 at Witton. Matthew STUBBS dies > in 1775. In 1777 a Mary STUBBS marries a Richard NIELD. It is easy to > assume that this Mary is the widow of Matthew especially as both Matthew and > Richard lived at a place called Lordship. > > I am keen to confirm this as well as the maiden name of Mary who married > Matthew STUBBS. Mary who married Richard NIELD appears to be the daughter > of Hugh and Martha BROOM who resided at a place called Harlington which I > have been unable to locate. > > So I am looking for a marriage of a Mary BROOM to a WARBURTON. I can't find > one and don't know where to look. I did find a Mary BROWN who I thought > looked promising and I found a Thomas WARBURTON who died in 1764 but this > Thomas appears to have died before Mary WARBURTON married Matthew. > > Any ideas or assistance would be appreciated. > > Regards, > > Christine > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Please note that the website for the 1611 Survey of Macclesfield Manor and Forest has moved to the following link: http://www.tiger2.f2s.com/1611MacclesfieldSurvey/ The site contains 700 names of freeholders, copyholders and tenants and has free-to-view surname and house name indexes. Ray Hulley www.hulley.info www.johnhulley-olympics.co.uk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hulley

Thank you Ruth. I have just downloaded Roots Magic essentials and (I might have guessed it) Web Search is on the full version so I cannot test it!. Eric ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7120 - Release Date: 02/24/14

Hi Eric I have no commercial interest in any of these programs, but I have tried them all and comment as I have found. Of course, the program you select very much depends on what you want it to do for you. The Master Genealogist - my program of choice. It has superb reporting facilities, but I use it because it automatically calculates relationships (once you've set it up to do so), you can automatically colour code relationships from different branches, and assign "Accents" to individuals (i.e. highlight someone who has a particular quality, such as a job or title). You can carry out web searches too directly from an individual. Roots Magic - I use this program when researching for others. It has a facility to record all important data and media, and allows the creation of a shareable CD which contains the program and data in Read Only format so your "client" or family member can see on their screen precisely what you see on yours without the danger of their deleting or changing anything. RM also has search links directly to Family Search, Ancestry and other popular databases. You can download a free trial version but it doesn't have many of the full program facilities. FTM - my most unfavourite program. I find it incredibly complex to navigate, and to have a lot of superfluous pages. Hope this helps..... a bit. Ruth in Hampshire > -----Original Message----- > From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eric Millward > Sent: 24 February 2014 13:42 > To: Cheshire List > Subject: [CHS] Family history programs >

My sincere apologies if a comment on family history programs is seen as being out of order here. The current issue of Cheshire Ancestor contains an item on alternative programs. I have used Family Tree Maker for many years and I have often started to investigate alternatives but I have always decided not to change for one critical reason. I have an Ancestry subscription and FTM has a "Web Search Resources" button on each person's page which very quickly lists all Ancestry record links which match (or nearly match) that person's data no matter how brief it might be. This usually saves a vast amount of searching time but I have not seen the facility mentioned as plus point for FTM . FTM is by no means perfect and I would seriously consider a program change if something similar (not necessarily Ancestry based) was available on an alternative one even including a change of subscription. Eric Millward ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7120 - Release Date: 02/24/14

This website may be of interest to listers with Welsh ancestors.  It also includes a lot of articles relating to Cheshire including reports on Cheshire Assizes.  And it is free!   http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/home   Joy

I thought I would just remind people of this website.   There is a bit more since I last looked.  St Mary, Acton is particularly well covered (997 graves and 2272 names).   http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/area.php?area=Cheshire&country=En&scrwidth=1421   Joy

Hello all.  I've been diving in to Cheshire records in detail this week.  Many of my ancestors can be found in the St Olave parish.  The time period is the late 18 teens through 1841.  I believe the church was closed around 1840. One thing I noticed is they were always listed as the residence being ''St Olave's Churchyard', while others have been shown on the same page as 'St Olave Street'.  Maybe I am fishing, but I would like to know if there is any significance to residing in the churchyard vs the street? Interestingly enough, once the church closed, the family is listed on St Olave Street.  My understanding is this was an ancient and poor parish. Any one more familiar with the history of Chester than this American who can advise whether the difference matters would be appreciated. Thank you in advance!

He was baptised 17 Jul 1814 Holy Trinity Chester, mother Mary Rowlands.  Grandson?   https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N52N-L28   Joy ________________________________ From: mary rowlands <j0er0w2010@eircom.net> To: CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 17 February 2014, 11:28 Subject: [CHS] Rowland from Aldford Cheshire This is the burial of Edward Rowland of Romilly Aldford 28 Feb 1813 age 50 Could this be his son Edward JamesRowland, burial 23 Dec 1814 six months of the same address Thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is the burial of Edward Rowland of Romilly Aldford 28 Feb 1813 age 50 Could this be his son Edward JamesRowland, burial 23 Dec 1814 six months of the same address Thanks

Hi All, I have Mary Elizabeth WHITTAKER b Q3 1889 Macclesfield, daughter of Samuel and Mary. I have an MI for Mary Elizabeth DALE, 1972 age 82, in the same grave as Samuel and Mary WHITTAKER in Macclesfield. So it looks like Mary Elizabeth married ? DALE. I have found 2 possible marriages, 1940 in Stockport to a Joseph DALE and 1923 in Blackburn to a George DALE. The first is the right county but rather later than would be expected and the second is further away and she does end up buried in Macclesfield. I cannot find any likely offspring. Has anyone access to the parish registers for either of these? Can anyone "claim" a pair as theirs? Has anyone any other ideas to decide which is the right marriage? Any information or ideas gratefully received Christine P.S. I do have the census info.

I know what you mean, Mike and Norman. I was told by a member of my husband's family 'not to go there'. Red rag to a Family Historian , of course and makes you want to dig even more! Regards, Lyn

I know the feeling Mike. I now know who my grandfather was; my mother would also have been mortified! Norman --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

No wonder some of us get strange looks when we want to talk about family history with our parents. Its been a number of years ago since my mom passed away, my dad had died over 20 years earlier. I remembered she would say to my wife Eileen "our Michael wants to know the ins and outs of a ducks backside". (she had a way with words) This was to shut me up.  However, on the day of her funeral my sister knowing I was interested in the family history gave me some old family records, one of them was my parents wedding certificate. Not much to look at till I saw the date...................... it was dated a month after I was born. I burst out laughing. I know my mom , she would have been mortified if she knew I knew this. It still gives me a smile as I type this.  All my best in your own funny moments. Mike Morris  Toronto Canada

Hello Eric and Lesley, I have now found all the Higham children on the Cheshire Parish Registers List, and have als received the death certificate for Betty wife of Thomas, their address is given as 'Lark Hill' and the cause of death was 'appoplexy' which I suppose could have been high blood pressure as their last child was Susannah born 1836/37 and that could have caused her to be ill. I have also heard from the Register Office at Warrington, and from their information, the request that I made for Thomas' death certificate didn't match their records, so back to square one on that at the moment. I am now wondering that as Thomas was a Cordwainer/Shoemaker, would there be any factories employing people working in that industry in the Larkhill/Cheadle/Stockport area or would he work from home. Once again my thanks to you and everyone who replied to my query, I have no doubt that I shall be asking for more help in the future Regards Lilian .

Thanks to all for your suggestions. Geoff _____ From: Geoff Roosen [mailto:gnroosen@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 9 February 2014 10:09 AM To: CHESHIRE Mail List (cheshire@rootsweb.com) Subject: Old Obituaries Hi All, I am looking for newspaper obituaries from the 1840s through to early 1900s in Tameside. Does anyone know of an on-line resource for these? If not on-line, would such old newspapers be physically archived anywhere? Your guidance appreciated. Geoff Roosen Melbourne, Australia Researching: KINDER, RAMSBOTTOM, LONGSDEN, RIDER, GOODWIN in Cheshire

Hi Geoff, none of the Tameside area newspapers are on line at the moment, but they are found in the Tameside Archive Centre in Ashton under Lyne, both on microfilm and hard copies. Unless your ancestors were well off I doubt you would find an obituary for that time line, if there is one it would give little information, just name age where died. More detailed obituaries are generally found after WW1 Vanessa    All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ ________________________________ From: Geoff Roosen <gnroosen@ozemail.com.au> To: CHESHIRE Mail List <cheshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, 8 February 2014, 23:08 Subject: [CHS] Old Obituaries Hi All, I am looking for newspaper obituaries from the 1840s through to early 1900s in Tameside.  Does anyone know of an on-line resource for these?  If not on-line, would such old newspapers be physically archived anywhere?  Your guidance appreciated. Geoff Roosen Melbourne, Australia Researching:  KINDER, RAMSBOTTOM, LONGSDEN, RIDER, GOODWIN in Cheshire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message