I can see how this one can be a difficult search! Googling Durranhill House, I see that this was a nursing home for 96 years, up to 2004 (when it was redeveloped for housing), though it had been a convent up till about 1908. It may still have been run by a religious order however, as there appears to still have been a chapel in 2004. See article from Carlisle News & Star at: http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/changing_the_face_of_the_carlisle_landscape_1_442068?referrerPath=/2.1692 Another reference, at http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-386704-durranhill-house-cumbria, indicates it was Grade II listed in 1994, not that that stopped it being redeveloped. You might just be able to find a little more relevant to your gg aunt by enquiring at Cumbria Record Office or even a Tourist office in Carlisle. Regards Dick From: JANET WESTCOTT Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 10:53 AM To: Dick Coleman ; cheshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHS] Convents & Census Yes, My great, great aunt Mary Agnes Walsh. Born 21st March 1900 at 23 Miners Row, Pendleton, Salford. Died 10th January 1970 at Durran Hill House, (Convent) Carlisle. On the 1901 census the family are at 23 Minors Row but not Mary Agnes. From: Dick Coleman <dickcoleman@btinternet.com> To: cheshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 3 March 2014, 8:58 Subject: Re: [CHS] Convents & Census All residents of convents are listed under their normal names, in my experience. Is there someone in particular you're unable to find? Regards Dick -----Original Message----- From: JANET WESTCOTT Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 9:38 AM To: cheshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] Convents & Census Hi, Can anyone tell me how I can see who was living in convents on the census? Thanks Janet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lynda, Cleaning gravestones - try warm soapy water and a soft brush. Rinse well afterwards. That worked quite well on my dad's kerbstone in Macclesfield Cemetery (sandstone). The inscription on the kerb was carved & then painted black, so my son in law re-did the lettering with black modelling enamel paint. It worked very well although I don't know how long the enamel will last in the weather. You could also try contacting the CWGC. They cleaned many of the gravestones in their care a few years ago & I believe they may have used a very dilute bleaching agent to clean the white marble. Regards Lesley Baxendale Colwyn Bay On 03/03/2014 11:10, Lynda Burke wrote: > Perhaps I'm not the only member who has forebears in Shropshire. I have > ten years' issues of the Shropshire FH Journal, and associated booklets > including a list of publications. I may be emigrating and need to cut down > on what I ship overseas. > > They and I are in Lancaster, but perhaps we could arrange to meet somewhere > for a handover. I still visit Nantwich, and also need to go and tidy up a > family grave in Weston-under-Redcastle. > > BTW, do you have any tips on cleaning up the stonework without damaging > it? In this cases there is no headstone, the framework around the grave has > the inscriptions, which are sadly are becoming illegible. The first burial > was in 1917, the last in 1986. > > Good wishes > > Lynda Burke, nee Chetwood > (researching Birchalls, Chetwoods/Chetwodes and their in-laws. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks. This family has driven me mad for years. Thomas Walsh b. 1819 Manchester died 1890 in Beswick, Manchester Emma    Walsh b  1826 Nottingham Children; Charlotte Walsh b.1854 Manchester. Never married but calls herself SMITH on the 1901 census but all previous ones she                    is WALSH.                 Isabella Walsh b. 1867. Salford                                 Children: Annie Walsh (My great grandmother) b.1893 d. 1947                                                 Francis Joseph Walsh b. 1896 d. 1925 in accident at gas works.                                                 Mary Agnes Walsh b1900 d 1970 (in Convent.) All 3 children were said to be illegitimate and their mother a mistress to a wealthy man. It was also said that Annie was put into an industrial school and Mary into a convent at the age of 5. No information on Francis other than he was in the merchant navy WW1.   Janet ________________________________ From: Elaine Hanson <odessa@dsl.pipex.com> To: JANET WESTCOTT <janet.westcott1@btinternet.com>; Dick Coleman <dickcoleman@btinternet.com>; cheshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 3 March 2014, 11:52 Subject: Re: [CHS] Convents & Census Janet, Could you provide some details of parents and siblings, it might help us search for you. regards, Elaine. -----Original Message----- From: JANET WESTCOTT Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 10:53 AM To: Dick Coleman ; cheshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHS] Convents & Census Yes, My great, great aunt Mary Agnes Walsh. Born 21st March 1900 at 23 Miners Row, Pendleton, Salford. Died 10th January 1970 at Durran Hill House, (Convent) Carlisle. On the 1901 census the family are at 23 Minors Row but not Mary Agnes. ________________________________

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Janet, Could you provide some details of parents and siblings, it might help us search for you. regards, Elaine. -----Original Message----- From: JANET WESTCOTT Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 10:53 AM To: Dick Coleman ; cheshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHS] Convents & Census Yes, My great, great aunt Mary Agnes Walsh. Born 21st March 1900 at 23 Miners Row, Pendleton, Salford. Died 10th January 1970 at Durran Hill House, (Convent) Carlisle. On the 1901 census the family are at 23 Minors Row but not Mary Agnes. ________________________________

Thanks Lyn, The spoken family history says that she was put into a convent at about 5 years of age so I hopeful that I can find her in one of them. Janet ________________________________ From: Mrs L. McCulloch <lyn.mcculloch@btinternet.com> To: cheshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 3 March 2014, 11:37 Subject: [CHS] Convents and the Census Janet, As the last available census was 1911 I don't think it will help you find your Aunt as she was only 11 then. Regards, Lyn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janet, As the last available census was 1911 I don't think it will help you find your Aunt as she was only 11 then. Regards, Lyn

Perhaps I'm not the only member who has forebears in Shropshire. I have ten years' issues of the Shropshire FH Journal, and associated booklets including a list of publications. I may be emigrating and need to cut down on what I ship overseas. They and I are in Lancaster, but perhaps we could arrange to meet somewhere for a handover. I still visit Nantwich, and also need to go and tidy up a family grave in Weston-under-Redcastle. BTW, do you have any tips on cleaning up the stonework without damaging it? In this cases there is no headstone, the framework around the grave has the inscriptions, which are sadly are becoming illegible. The first burial was in 1917, the last in 1986. Good wishes Lynda Burke, nee Chetwood (researching Birchalls, Chetwoods/Chetwodes and their in-laws.

Yes, My great, great aunt Mary Agnes Walsh. Born 21st March 1900 at 23 Miners Row, Pendleton, Salford. Died 10th January 1970 at Durran Hill House, (Convent) Carlisle. On the 1901 census the family are at 23 Minors Row but not Mary Agnes.   ________________________________ From: Dick Coleman <dickcoleman@btinternet.com> To: cheshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 3 March 2014, 8:58 Subject: Re: [CHS] Convents & Census All residents of convents are listed under their normal names, in my experience. Is there someone in particular you're unable to find? Regards Dick -----Original Message----- From: JANET WESTCOTT Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 9:38 AM To: cheshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] Convents & Census Hi, Can anyone tell me how I can see who was living in convents on the census? Thanks Janet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Trish, Is this the family in 1841? 1841 England Census about Joseph Marriot Name: Joseph Marriot Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Gender: Male Civil Parish: Stockport Hundred: Macclesfield County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Registration district: Stockport Sub-registration district: Hyde Piece: 114 Book: 6 Folio: 25 Page Number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Marriot 45 Samul Marriot 14 Joseph Marriot 10 No James though, unfortunately. Hope this helps Christine -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Essex Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 3:43 AM To: 'Christine Benson' Subject: RE: [CHS] 1841 census Hi Christine Thank you for replying The family is James and Sarah Marriott/Marriot He was born 1790 according to his death certificate and she was born 1794. I am trying to locate where he was born. Children, Thomas, James Elizabeth, Samuel, Benjamin, Joseph and James. Sarah was living with Joseph in the 1851 census. James died in 1845. So he should be on the 1841 census, hopefully Regards Trish -----Original Message----- From: Christine Benson [mailto:christinebenson313@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, 3 March 2014 8:46 AM To: Patricia Essex; CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHS] 1841 census Hi Trish, There are several MARRIOTTs in that area and there are some in 1841. If you give details of the family you have found in 1851 then it is possible to look for them in 1841. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Essex Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 10:29 PM To: CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] 1841 census Hi, Could anyone tell me if there was a 1841 census for the Stockport, Cheshire area. I am looking for a family and I can find Them on the 1851 census but not on the 1841. The name is Marriott. They would have been in the Gee Cross, Hyde area. Any help would be appreciated Regards Trish Essex

All residents of convents are listed under their normal names, in my experience. Is there someone in particular you're unable to find? Regards Dick -----Original Message----- From: JANET WESTCOTT Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 9:38 AM To: cheshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] Convents & Census Hi, Can anyone tell me how I can see who was living in convents on the census? Thanks Janet

Hi, Could anyone tell me if there was a 1841 census for the Stockport, Cheshire area. I am looking for a family and I can find Them on the 1851 census but not on the 1841. The name is Marriott. They would have been in the Gee Cross, Hyde area. Any help would be appreciated Regards Trish Essex

Wow Joan. I have searched for months and I don't know why I didn't see these.........Especially Eliza born 1825 with husband John. That one is very possible. Thank you Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: JOAN ZORN To: Margaret Cambridge ; Cheshire List Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [CHS] Mother of Henry JONES b 1850 Birkenhead Marg Have you seen this possibility for Eliza in 1851 Piece 2175 Folio 54 Page 41 ? Eliza is shown as a Boatman's wife, born in Ireland, living in Birkenhead with her brother-in-law George Blain and his family. Age could be a bit out though. In 1851 there is also an Eliza b 1825 in Ireland living in Liverpool (just across the river from Birkenhead) with husband John, Piece 2181 Folio 265 Page 82 Joan From: Margaret Cambridge <talktomarg@shaw.ca> To: Cheshire List <cheshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 28 February 2014, 20:16 Subject: [CHS] Mother of Henry JONES b 1850 Birkenhead I put out a lot of info on my Henry JONES family a while back and received a great deal of assistance for which I am very appreciative. In 1891 Henry JONES, born 1850, Birkenhead, team owner, is found at 10 Waterloo Place, Birkenhead. With him are 3 of his sons; William, b abt 1871, Henry, b abt 1874 and John, b abt 1875. In 1901 Henry's 3 sons are living with their grandmother, Eliza JONES, a 75 year old widow at 30 Dacre Street, Birkenhead. Also living with Eliza are her sons Edward, b 1864, and George, b 1872, Birkenhead. Eliza is recorded as being born in Ireland. In 1881 this Eliza Jones, widow, 55, is at 2 Swan Court, Birkenhead with sons Edward, 17, Boilermaker Apprentice, and George, 9. Eliza is said to be born in Ireland. In 1891 Eliza has her son George, 19, boilermaker's labourer, in the home at 41 Wellington Street, Birkenhead. If this is the right Eliza she says she is born in Birkenhead. I'm trying to find Eliza JONES prior to 1881. I have found an Eliza with husband Edward JONES in 1861 in Hoole, and 1871 in Chester who looks possible but this one is born in Flintshire. I don't know whether I should scrap this one. If anyone has time and would like a challenge I would really appreciate your help in trying to find Eliza. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada

Marg Have you seen this possibility for Eliza in 1851  Piece 2175 Folio 54 Page 41 ?  Eliza is shown as a Boatman's wife, born in Ireland,  living in Birkenhead with her brother-in-law George Blain and his family. Age could be a bit out though. In 1851 there is also an Eliza b 1825 in Ireland living in Liverpool (just across the river from Birkenhead) with husband John, Piece 2181 Folio 265 Page 82 Joan ________________________________ From: JOAN ZORN <j.zorn@btinternet.com> To: Margaret Cambridge <talktomarg@shaw.ca>; Cheshire List <cheshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 28 February 2014, 23:14 Subject: Re: [CHS] Mother of Henry JONES b 1850 Birkenhead Marg Jones is a difficult name to research as I know from experience! There are a number of 'Henry Jones' born in Birkenhead in 1850/1. (see Cheshire BMDs). If you want to get his birth details I'd suggest you contact the record office in Birkenhead (Superintendent Registrar, Wirral Register Office, Town Hall, Mortimer Street, Birkenhead, CH41 5EU, UK) giving as much additional info that you have ie mother's name etc. Certs cost 10 pounds.  I found them very helpful when looking for my James Jones. The birth cert will give his father's name and Eliza's maiden name which will be an enormous help. You'd then be able to search for a Jones/Eliza marriage I'd go with her being born in Ireland, particularly as the 1881 gives the detail that it is Newry, Ireland. The Birkenhead birth could be an enumerator's error. Joan ________________________________ From: Margaret Cambridge <talktomarg@shaw.ca> To: Cheshire List <cheshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 28 February 2014, 20:16 Subject: [CHS] Mother of Henry JONES b 1850 Birkenhead I put out a lot of info on my Henry JONES family a while back and received a great deal of assistance for which I am very appreciative. In 1891 Henry JONES, born 1850, Birkenhead, team owner, is found at 10 Waterloo Place, Birkenhead.  With him are 3 of his sons;  William, b abt 1871, Henry, b abt 1874 and John, b abt 1875. In 1901 Henry's 3 sons are living with their grandmother, Eliza JONES, a 75 year old widow at 30 Dacre Street, Birkenhead.  Also living with Eliza are her sons Edward, b 1864, and George, b 1872, Birkenhead. Eliza is recorded as being born in Ireland. In 1881 this Eliza Jones, widow, 55, is at 2 Swan Court, Birkenhead with sons Edward, 17, Boilermaker Apprentice,  and George, 9.  Eliza is said to be born in Ireland.  In 1891 Eliza has her son George, 19, boilermaker's labourer,  in the home at 41 Wellington Street, Birkenhead.  If this is the right Eliza she says she is born in Birkenhead. I'm trying to find Eliza JONES prior to 1881.  I have found an Eliza with husband Edward JONES in 1861 in Hoole, and 1871 in Chester who looks possible but this one is born in Flintshire.  I don't know whether I should scrap this one. If anyone has time and would like a challenge I would really appreciate your help in trying to find Eliza. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Trish, There are several MARRIOTTs in that area and there are some in 1841. If you give details of the family you have found in 1851 then it is possible to look for them in 1841. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Essex Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 10:29 PM To: CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] 1841 census Hi, Could anyone tell me if there was a 1841 census for the Stockport, Cheshire area. I am looking for a family and I can find Them on the 1851 census but not on the 1841. The name is Marriott. They would have been in the Gee Cross, Hyde area. Any help would be appreciated Regards Trish Essex

Trish ,  it would help if you gave their names and possibly where they were born. How do you know they were in Gee Cross in 1841 ? Regards  Mike Morris Toronto Canada >________________________________ > From: Patricia Essex <pbs6@bigpond.com> >To: CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com >Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:29:15 PM >Could anyone tell me if there was a 1841 census for the Stockport, Cheshire area.  I am looking for a family and I can find Them on the 1851 census but not on the 1841.  The name is Marriott. They would have been in the Gee Cross, Hyde area. <snip>

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Hi,   Can anyone tell me how I can see who was living in convents on the census?   Thanks   Janet

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Thanks to one and all for the helpful suggestions. Richard