"Reunion for Mac" has a great tree maker in its program, Only one problem, it runs on the best, an "Apple Computer" Dave absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

Actually, I'm curious as to what is out there! Please reply online, okay? -----Original Message----- From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eric Millward Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:15 AM To: Cheshire List Subject: [CHS] Creating web trees If you wish to reply to this message please do so privately as it is a little off topic. Some years ago I created a website with my tree on it using Dftcom2. It looks as if Java will block access to that program soon because of their latest security requirements. Can anyone please suggest an alternative method of publishing a tree on a private website (not Ancestry). Regards Eric Millward ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7251 - Release Date: 03/26/14 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I am interested in the Whitelegg family in Cheshire. According to my ggrandmother's (Ellen Hobson) birth registration, her mother was Catherine Whiteledge. On the 1851 census, Catherine's birth place was given as High Legh Cheshire. I have found some reference to a George Whitelegg in High Legh and I notice there are many other Whiteleggs throughout Cheshire. Does anyone have infomation they are willing to share about these families? Catherine married Jonathan Beaden, however, I do not have a marriage date or place for them. Their first child that I have date for is John Beaden who was christened in Warrington in 1832. They subsequently had Mary, Ann, Elizabeth, and Ellen. Ellen married William Hobson in St Stephens, Salford in 1860. I would love to contact any descendents of Catherine and Jonathan. William and Ellen immigrated to Australia in 1863. Thank you, Linda M

There is a Romiley in Cheshire about 6 miles NE of Stockport if that is any use to you. Nowhere near Aldford though. Eric Millward ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7244 - Release Date: 03/25/14

Hi my 3+grand father on his burial notice his residence was Romily could this be the area of Aldford or name of the home where he lived ? Edward Rowland burial 28 Feb 1813 age 50 Child's burial Edward James Rowlands 23 Dec 1814 age 6 months Thanks

Peter wrote: "After a couple of years rest from researching, I am back but have a problem. All my data is stored in a PAF file and PAF Is no longer available. Anyone know of a prog that can open this file or convert it to Gedcom?" It sounds like you once had the PAF software, but no longer do. If you did, PAF would produce a GEDCOM file. GEDCOM is the closest thing there is to a universal format for genealogical data. Others have recommended programs which will import PAF files and convert them to their proprietary formats. I suspect most programs will because PAF (being free) was very popular in its day. My advice is to always make a backup GEDCOM file of your database. The GEDCOM standard is now very old and will not handle all the "bells and whistles" of newer programs, but it will -- at least -- preserve your essential data for import into any program that should come along. -rt_/)

Hello Tony, Whilst looking at these trees I found one which had the birth of a child several years after the death of the supposed parent. It wasn’t repeated in all the trees and may just have been a typo but I have found many trees with data bordering on impossible if not absolutely impossible. I don’t take any of the data on them for granted. Christine From: Tony Vernon Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 5:31 PM To: Eric Millward ; Christine Benson Cc: CHESHIRE mailing list Subject: Re: [CHS] Phebe HUDSON and John ASHNESS Hello Christine, Eric makes an excellent point. While hunting for clues of my Vernon ancestry, there are 10 or so trees on ancestry.com that claim an ancestor is the son of a woman who died 4 years before he was born! It is very possible that you have found the correct answer while others have simply copied the incorrect one. Cheers, Tony On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Eric Millward <bruckshaw1@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Christine, NEVER, EVER (yes I'm shouting) accept what is given in other people's trees without researching the data yourself. Use them as hints or clues but not as evidence. Don't be misled by the same info. appearing in several trees either. They could be copies of copies of copies etc. It does happen. Finally if you find that you are in a minority of one do not assume that you will get a response if you enquire where the others found their data. Some do reply but the majority do not. Personally I am always pleased when some one challenges my data .... I may unearth an error there. Eric Millward ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7240 - Release Date: 03/24/14 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks for everyone's help and offers to supply me with PAF.. 2 listers suggested RootsMagic, I have installed this and opened my PAF files. Thanks again Peter Foden.

Eric, I totally agree with everything you say. Hence my email. I don't discount the possibility I'm wrong - but I don't think so. But if I am wrong I would always prefer someone told me. And if it was on one or two trees I would contact them via Ancestry but it is on about 13. (I wonder if there is any significance in that number!) So I thought I'd try the list first. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Eric Millward Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 5:25 PM To: Christine Benson ; CHESHIRE mailing list Subject: Re: [CHS] Phebe HUDSON and John ASHNESS Christine, NEVER, EVER (yes I'm shouting) accept what is given in other people's trees without researching the data yourself. Use them as hints or clues but not as evidence. Don't be misled by the same info. appearing in several trees either. They could be copies of copies of copies etc. It does happen. Finally if you find that you are in a minority of one do not assume that you will get a response if you enquire where the others found their data. Some do reply but the majority do not. Personally I am always pleased when some one challenges my data .... I may unearth an error there. Eric Millward

Christine, NEVER, EVER (yes I'm shouting) accept what is given in other people's trees without researching the data yourself. Use them as hints or clues but not as evidence. Don't be misled by the same info. appearing in several trees either. They could be copies of copies of copies etc. It does happen. Finally if you find that you are in a minority of one do not assume that you will get a response if you enquire where the others found their data. Some do reply but the majority do not. Personally I am always pleased when some one challenges my data .... I may unearth an error there. Eric Millward ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7240 - Release Date: 03/24/14

Hi All, For the information of the several tree owners on Ancestry who have Phebe (Phoebe) HUDSON and John ASHNESS in their tree. I am researching Phebe HUDSON who was baptised 6 Mar 1774, daughter of John and Hannah of Rainow. She married John ASHNESS on 9 Feb 1796 at Prestbury. She was buried at Christ Church, Macclesfield on 5 Jun 1814. Her age is given as 41. That fits reasonably with the baptism I have. However the trees have a birth of 1778. Some of them say that the source is the Millennium File. The Millennium File seems to say its source is - the Millennium File!!! On clicking "learn more" it says the info is from public member trees. The same ones as say they get it from the Millennium File??? However, somewhere (which I can't now find) there was a link to the One World Tree which had the birth as 1773, presumably calculated from her death. So I strongly believe all those tree owners are wrong. However, if I am the one who is "out of step" I would be grateful if you could tell me why. Christine

Hello Christine, Eric makes an excellent point. While hunting for clues of my Vernon ancestry, there are 10 or so trees on ancestry.com that claim an ancestor is the son of a woman who died 4 years before he was born! It is very possible that you have found the correct answer while others have simply copied the incorrect one. Cheers, Tony On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Eric Millward <bruckshaw1@tiscali.co.uk>wrote: > Christine, > > NEVER, EVER (yes I'm shouting) accept what is given in other people's > trees without researching the data yourself. Use them as hints or clues > but not as evidence. Don't be misled by the same info. appearing in > several trees either. They could be copies of copies of copies etc. It > does happen. > > Finally if you find that you are in a minority of one do not assume that > you will get a response if you enquire where the others found their > data. Some do reply but the majority do not. Personally I am always > pleased when some one challenges my data .... I may unearth an error > there. > > Eric Millward > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7240 - Release Date: 03/24/14 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Peter Ancestral Quest is directly compatible with PAF and will open/convert PAF files. PAF was actually created from an older version of Ancestral Quest. Regards Colin -----Original Message----- From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Foden Sent: 23 March 2014 07:28 To: CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] Personal ancestral file After a couple of years rest from researching, I am back but have a problem. All my data is stored in a PAF file and PAF Is no longer available. Anyone know of a prog that can open this file or convert it to Gedcom? Thanks for reading this Regards Peter Foden. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Legacy Version 8 will read PAF and its free > Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 07:27:45 +0000 > From: bamberbrigger@gmail.com > To: CHESHIRE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CHS] Personal ancestral file > > After a couple of years rest from researching, I am back but have a > problem. All my data is stored in a PAF file and PAF Is no longer > available. Anyone know of a prog that can open this file or convert it to > Gedcom? Thanks for reading this > Regards > Peter Foden. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Christine I would think it's quite possible that the Rainow, Gawsworth and the Butley HUDSONs were of the same family. From my researches in this area I can see that there was more than one HUDSON family in each village. I suspect that if you follow each family back a couple of generations that they would have a common ancestor. It may take you a little time but it could be an exercise well worth doing. If your 4xggrandfather, James, was an agricultural worker, a miner or a home weaver, he may well have moved from one place of work to another to work in the mills in Macclesfield. I've made a supposition here as the area was undergoing considerable change in the latter half of the 18thC and lots of people were on the move. Do you know what your forefather did? Macclesfield was not far from Rainow and Butley and Gawsworth only a little further, but maybe James and his family were actually living in Macclesfield in 1776. John and Hannah would have been married in Prestbury. Rainow had only a chapelry in the parish of St Peter, Prestbury and this was not licenced to conduct marriages. Marriage registers in Rainow only began in 1846 when the church was built. See Genuki. Have you seen the website: http://www.rainow.org/ This contains maps of the area and useful background. Hope this helps a bit! Ruth

Dear Fellow Cheshire Listers, I know Didsbury isn't in Cheshire but there are so many connections as the county boundary is only a few hundred yards away by the River Mersey that I hope some of you might be interested in the following activities taking place in the period from Monday 24th to Sunday 30th March 2014 as part of the Manchester Histories Festival. Full details are on our publicity handout (dark blue in colour) on the Didsbury Civic Society website http://didsburycivicsociety.org.uk/ but these snippets might tempt you. Monday and Tuesday 24th and 25th - Walk round Old Didsbury starting at 2pm at St James' Church and finishing at the Parsonage, former home of Fletcher Moss, author of books about Cheshire and Shropshire houses and buried in Cheadle, Cheshire. His father came from Meece Hall in Staffordshire. Wednesday 26th - talk at 6.30 for 7pm at The Towers, Wilmslow Road, Didsbury home of Daniel Adamson of Hyde and Stockport and where the papers for the Manchester Ship Canal were signed. Main house built for editor of Manchester Guardian. Former Shirley Institute. Thursday 28th - talk at 6.30 for 7pm at St James' Church about the Watts family of Abney Hall in Cheadle, Heaton Mersey and founders of Kendal Milne. One of the Watts family owned Haslington Hall, Crewe Sunday 30th - view the 13th century St James' Church in Didsbury with many Cheshire connections and wonderful bells. Hope to see some of you there. Kind regards, Diana Cheshire names - Royle (Over, Winsford, Runcorn) Withenshaw Bridges Young (Little Leigh) Dr Diana M. Leitch BSc, PhD, FRSC, Didsbury Parish Historian and Archivist Trustee, Catalyst Science Discovery Centre, Widnes Information Consultant.

After a couple of years rest from researching, I am back but have a problem. All my data is stored in a PAF file and PAF Is no longer available. Anyone know of a prog that can open this file or convert it to Gedcom? Thanks for reading this Regards Peter Foden.

Hi All, James HUDSON, my gggg-grandfather, was baptised 7 July 1776 at St Michael's, Macclesfield. He was the son of John and Hannah of Rainow. There is an marriage of John HUDSON and Hannah BOOTHE, both of Rainow, on 7 July 1760. (I am not sure whether the marriage was at Prestbury or at Rainow.) There are also 2 girls baptised, Matty Nov 1771 and Phebe Mar 1774, both at Rainow with the same parents. So why was James bap. at Macclesfield? There are also a family with the same named parents at Butley. I believe this to be John HUDSON and Hannah BARBER married 1746 at Prestbury and had children between 1757 and 1765. But there were also children bap. at Gawsworth, father John HUDSON, no mother named between 1761 and 1766 and to John and Hannah between 1779 and 1782. I cannot find a marriage of a John HUDSON to Hannah to go with these later baptisms, and possibly the earlier ones. The earlier ones overlap the Butley ones so that cannot be the same John except in the unlikely event he was supporting 2 families. Since there was a gap between the marriage of "my" John at Rainow in 1760 and his first child in 1771 could he also be the John at Gawsworth, as the Rainow births fit nicely into the gap between the 2 sets of births at Gawsworth. Any ideas, speculation or evidence to sort out which children belong in my tree much appreciated. Christine

A contact of mine is investigating supposed problems with some Superintendent Registrars Offices and asks: "Have any list members had their request for a certificate from a superintendent registrar refused? I have heard that some city offices refuse to issue certificates for family history purposes referring the applicant to the GRO and would like to ascertain whether this is true or simply urban myth." If you have had a request refused by a Superintendent Registrar please let me know and I will pass on details to him. David Railton

Hello Beth MIs is an abbreviation for Monumental Inscriptions - gravestone inscriptions. You will find transcripts of these within Family History Society (FHS) catalogues and there are usually copies in local archives and/or libraries. In some cases there may also be photographs available but you will need to be particularly lucky to find these. Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________ On 13/03/2014 20:23, Beth wrote: > May I ask what MIs are?