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    1. Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage
    2. Joyce Gaston Reece
    3. Excellent posting Susan! You know the names of those responsible for this entire conglomeration of misinformation concerning Troxell/Cornblossom. I debunked that one years ago. There were/are three different myths, all originating in southeastern Kentucky and all seem to have some basis in the Kenneth Tankersley research (which plainly states there is no documentation for what he wrote, claiming his best to be 'oral history'). One myth is this one, the second is the Aaron Brock/Red Bird myth and the third is the Sizemore. I get the Sizemore / Brock since many old researchers believed Jesse Brock, Aaron's son, to have married a Sizemore. The Troxell myth spins off that somehow. Just last week I posted, on the Brock surname list, several documents that disproved that a Cherokee Chief was Aaron Brock aka Red Bird. (There is a facebook list entitled "Aaron Brock aka Chief Red Bird". When I posted on it that it wasn't documented and asked another poster to document his statements I was called 'rude' by several of the list members and banned from the list....of course the list creator is one of those people who apparently think the Cherokee were all mystical beings.) The Troxell believers claim that Doublehead was the grandfather of this Cornblossom (a myth that also exists among the Shawnee). That Christian Priber was the father by Doublehead's dtr. Christian Priber stayed among the Cherokee less than 3 years before he was imprisioned by the British and died in a Georgia jail. He was know as "The French Spy". He was, to put it bluntly, a nutcase. He could not have possibly fathered a child at the right age since the conception would have been after his death. Ludovic Grant's journal reveals much about this as does the appalachian.summit web site. Now, SUSAN, as for Wayne County, KY. Maybe you can explain to me a question I've had floating in my mind for years. Researching as much as I do here in McMinn Co., TN I have seen the Old Nathan Lawson family, the Wattenbarger's, the Buttram's and 3 or 4 more families here in 1820's (possibly earlier) McMinn and all from Wayne Co. Do you think that perhaps there was a 'mass migration' from Wayne south into McMinn when the county opened for settlement? Some of these same Lawson's seem to be on the south side of the Hiwassee prior to Removal (which was a no - no)....meaning they were living on Cherokee land. The Buttram's and Wattenbarger's settled in the west part of the county to form the methodist churches there. I know we had a lot of area settlers move into McMinn and Monroe when the counties were formed but I've never figured out why Wayne Co., KY. The only thing I can think of is if the land was ceeded from the Cherokee in the 1805 (possibly 1795) Treaty and they were doing like so many other families and going on to Indian Territory. Joyce Gaston Reece

    07/29/2012 03:52:57
    1. Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage
    2. Susan Reynolds
    3. Good question, Joyce. I don't think it had to do with the land being ceded by the Cherokee so much as it had to do with the bounty warrants from the Revolution and the War of 1812. My James L. "Logan" Jones left Wayne County in the 1820s spent a few years in Tennessee (although I don't know where yet with James Jones being such a common name,) then moved westward into Missouri by 1834 or 35 where he lived out the remainder of his long life. Logan was born in Wayne County where his grandfather, Joshua Jones, built the first ironworks in Kentucky. Joshua was a revolutionary patriot, but I haven't yet located any warrant for bounty land. He certainly knew about it as a surveyor. There was ample opportunity in Wayne County early on, but by the time Logan reached his majority, the land was mostly all claimed due to military grants from the Revolution and headrights grants. I had wondered about why Logan left and just never connected it until I saw his father served in the War of 1812 (here's a roster of Wayne county men who fought in that war, Buttram/Bertram among them: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kywayne/warof1812.html) and would have received bounty land for his service, but neither James Sr. nor his other sons left Wayne County, only James Jr. So it hit me between the eyes while thinking about the answer for you he was probably among those who exited south then westward to claim bounty land in Missouri. I haven't found a military warrant for Logan's land in MO, but he might have claimed one in TN on a warrant transferred to him by his father. Likewise, he may have lived on land registered by his grandfather - Joshua was a surveyor for a time for NC and he assisted in finding bounty land in TN for revolutionary veterans in the TN Military District. Surveyors were paid in rights - land - in the area and Joshua likely had a good deal of TN land because he surveyed a great deal of it and his land in Wayne County 400 acres on Elk creek was surveyed and registered as part of his rights. Interestingly it is this Jones line we were told all my life was part Cherokee, then my Grandma told us about 5 years before her death no, it was part Arapaho and part Blackfoot. I don't believe that last at all, and only a slim glimmer on the Cherokee. No evidence I can find at all. Send me the other names off list and I'll see what I have on them and maybe we can connect the dots. Do you have access to Heritage Quest? If so, my distant cousin Augusta Phillips wrote an interesting history of Wayne County in the 1930s and it includes many, many biographical notes. Interestingly, Mark Twain had connections to Wayne County. His uncle, married one of my great aunts. All kinds of interesting connections in this one little county! Susan > > Now, SUSAN, as for Wayne County, KY. Maybe you can explain to me a question > I've had floating in my mind for years. Researching as much as I do here in > McMinn Co., TN I have seen the Old Nathan Lawson family, the Wattenbarger's, > the Buttram's and 3 or 4 more families here in 1820's (possibly earlier) > McMinn and all from Wayne Co. Do you think that perhaps there was a 'mass > migration' from Wayne south into McMinn when the county opened for > settlement? Some of these same Lawson's seem to be on the south side of the > Hiwassee prior to Removal (which was a no - no)....meaning they were living > on Cherokee land. The Buttram's and Wattenbarger's settled in the west part > of the county to form the methodist churches there. I know we had a lot of > area settlers move into McMinn and Monroe when the counties were formed but > I've never figured out why Wayne Co., KY. The only thing I can think of is > if the land was ceeded from the Cherokee in the 1805 (possibly 1795) Treaty > and they were doing like so many other families and going on to Indian > Territory. > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/29/2012 12:26:20