Also, I forgot to mention that Raven is yes a title, but in researching Cherokee, I find that often that is what is given rather than names and in early research it's difficult to determine which is the name and which is a title. Thanks. In a message dated 12/28/2012 11:56:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Joyce, thank you for your kind reply. At this particular time, I am still learning and your knowledge is appreciated. I understand that McMinnville is a separate town and is not McMinn Co. itself, but was not aware that it was not in McMinn Co. until now. My Hughes originated out of Cherokee Nation East. So, any info I give which is not accurate, is simply lack of knowledge and/or poor references, not fact. Again, I appreciate your straightening me out on these issues. However, it is Bernard Hughes' marriage into the Moytoy line and the descendants of that line that I am currently researching. Thanks again. Crystal In a message dated 12/28/2012 11:49:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: McMinnville is not in McMinn County, Crystal. McMinnville is northeast of Knoxville. McMinn neighbors Polk and Monroe and is close to both the Georgia and North Carolina state lines. McMinn Tennessee wasn't formed until 1820, prior to that it was Cherokee Nation East. From 1820 until 1838 McMinn was considered by the State of Tennessee to have legal jurisdiction over Indian lands to the Georgia and NC state lines. That was a bone of contention between the Cherokee Nation and the State of TN. One of the tools used by Andrew Jackson to instigate the Removal. I might suggest you do a lookup in Cherokee Old Settlers Payment Book of 1851 & 1896. You'll find Murphy Emigrants within the Old Settlers. Some of those Murphy's originated in Cherokee Co., NC and one or two out of Conasauga Village in McMinn Co., TN. Young Wolf Murphy lived near Ruth Helton/Matoy and emigrated apx the same time, perhaps the Harris detachment. Their Emigration lists show them to be from Conasauga BUT they traveled as McGray's. After they got west they reverted to Matoy. Jesse Murphy m. Pheobe Allen in CCNC. The also signed up to Emigrate but did return east. Jesse, Martin and THomas were the sons of Whiplash and Mary 'Polly' Murphy. Whiplash is the documented son of Bell Rattler (Rattling Gourd). Raven is a title not a name. Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 11:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CherokeeGene] Hughes lookups? To the person who is in McMinnville, TN. My Hughes line is from McMinnville. Prior to that, would be Bernard Hughes (trader) m. Cherokee/Shawnee. Out of McMinn Co. are: Bernard Hughes b. 1700 in Alabama, m. Sister Of Raven (?) 1726-1819 (some have her birth as 1716) James Hughes - b. 1742 m. Margaret (LNU) - (some question as to whether there was actually a 1st & 2nd James Hughes) James Hughes ggg-grandfather b. 1742-1762 (?) m. Margaret (LNU) Lucy Hughes gg-grandmother b. 1817 McMinn, TN m. John Murphy b. 1766 in NC Thank you for any help you can offer me. Crystal Mary Murphy =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message