Late to the party again... Thank you all! Kathie, thanks for the insight. The land lottery did not make much sense. Alli and Robert- thanks on the clarifications. Susan if what you have pertains to my line - I would love it! But if not, I totally believe you on the Jamestown birth point. Judy, I think we may be rowing boats next to each other. No one knows Mary unk - Johns wife? Or actual death info? Terri On 12/11/2012 7:09 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. John McDaniel (Forbes, Kathie) > 2. Re: John McDaniel (BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO) > 3. Re: John McDaniel (Alli :)) > 4. Re: John McDaniel (Robert H Appleby) > 5. Re: John McDaniel (Alli :)) > 6. Re: John McDaniel (Susan Reynolds) > 7. Re: John McDaniel (Alli :)) > 8. Re: John McDaniel (judy young) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:33:54 +0000 > From: "Forbes, Kathie" <[email protected]> > Subject: [CherokeeGene] John McDaniel > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Terri, what I meant was that the land lottery took land away from the Cherokee and distributed it to whites living in Georgia. It seems unlikely that John McDaniel would have participated in the lottery if he considered himself to be a Cherokee. That doesn't mean he didn't have Cherokee ancestors, and he might have wanted land so he could stay in Georgia with a Cherokee wife. Some of my Parks ancestors stayed in Tennessee because the husband was white and took a land reservation and remained with his Cherokee wife. Kathie > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:27:54 -0800 > From: "BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] John McDaniel > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > The McDaniel's joined the early Cherokee linage. See Moytoy. > > BARB > > > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:31:48 -0700 > From: "Alli :\)" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] John McDaniel > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > See Moytoy where? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:18:59 -0500 > From: Robert H Appleby <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] John McDaniel > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Moytoy in a google search does not come up with any genealogical site. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:10:05 -0700 > From: "Alli :\)" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] John McDaniel > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > That's why i asked her to see Moytoy where........instead of telling someone > to go look for someone else (a totally illrelevant name at this point), she > needs to just post how Moytoy connect's with John McDaniel instead of > putting people on wild goose chases........ > > > just my not so humble opinion ;) > > Alli > > > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:13:20 -0600 > From: Susan Reynolds <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] John McDaniel > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Alli, start here: > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0021-0001.html#IND13723REF0 > scroll down to #3, then click Granny Hooper #13. Don't get > sidetracked by references to Amadoya Moytoy being born at Jamestown. > I have documentation which disproves that. It is based on an indexing > error at the Library of Virginia site and is VERY modern in origin. > It's a lovely story, but just that. If you'd like what I have I'll be > glad to share it with you. > > Happy time travels! > Susan > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:04:36 -0700 > From: "Alli :\)" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] John McDaniel > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Oh it wasn't me who was looking. Thanks though for the link....I will check > it out, out of curiousity. I was just asking Barb to show what she posted > instead of sending the other person (sorry forget who) was asking..... > > Drives me nuts when i see someone getting the run around......course I think > I've been nuts for a while now LOL > > Alli :) > > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:09:46 -0800 (PST) > From: judy young <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] John McDaniel > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Excuse me for butting in on a running converstaion, I just happened to have > confused myself. I was in the midst of another research when this finally rings > some bells,?and I have already deleted much of my e-mail...sorry...just a bit of > the child in me listening with half an ear to what the ole folks said...and that > said...?Are you saying Granny Hopper is not?full cherokee blood or are you > saying her husband was not scots? Just wanted to know for sure. Or in fact are > you referring to either ethnicity? But the all cliams of Moytoy as Indian. > Perhaps that is what the genealogical materials here are meaning. Thanks so much > for taking your time to straighten me out as I know many of you can. > > I hope I followed directions to the #13 and this is what I found at the link, > and I am very interested in what you investigated and found on this family. > > > I have him on my tree as James William David McDaniel born in Scotland about > 1716. Married to Sookie "Granny" Hopper born 1742 Cherokee Nation East. With > note indicating that Sookie was what she was called and somehow was translated > by who, or I have not any idea...but my note just has what was told, or shared > with me as this:The Sookie is the Indian equivalent of Susy.How true that is I > am not trying to say or even hint that I have any documents to prove the claim. > This is simply a hand me down information, that I have not bothered to date to > chase any leads or info on because here is my relationship to the persons > listed. James William David McDaniel is the father in law of my 5th > great?grandfather. I was interested as Essary is in my family and that is the > connection here. I had been woring on ?Elizabeth Quatsey McDaniel and daughter > of James Wm. David McDaniel and wife Sookie Hopper I have noted the amount of > Cherokee blood for this woman disputable, and not sure how much she is just the > hand me down info has Sookie full blood Cherokee...sorry about the red flag I > know saying full blood Cherokee raises on this group, but it is all I have to > start researching, and the fact I have idicated in notes disputable, so please > excuse my terminology regarding that and do not hang up there. I believe my > Elizabeth Quatsey McDaniel was married to James Thomas Essary. I do not want or > hope this is set in type in anyones tree, as I am not saying have total docs. I > somewhere acquired the info that James and Elizabeth married in Randolph County, > NC Sept. 28 1786. Some of my information was gathered when I did not know what I > was doing in terms of searches...and how to document...but over the years have > improved. Still make errors....still want errors cleared up so as not to > continue to perpetuate. > > > 13. GRANNY3 HOPPER(OLD HOP2, A-MA-DO-YA1 MOYTOY) was born Abt. 1730. She married > WILLIAMDAVIDMCDANIEL, SR. He was born Abt. 1726 in Scotland. > > > More About GRANNYHOPPER: > Blood: Full Blood Cherokee > > More About WILLIAMDAVIDMCDANIEL, SR: > Blood: Scottish > Occupation: Trader > > Children of GRANNYHOPPERand WILLIAMMCDANIELare: > > 38. i. CATHERINEKATIE4 MCDANIEL, b. 1763, Chota, CNE [TN]; d. Aft. 1823. > ii. JOHNMCDANIEL, b. Abt. 1764. > More About JOHNMCDANIEL: > Blood: 1/2 Cherokee, 1/2 Scotch > > > 39. iii. ALEXANDERMCDANIEL, b. Abt. 1768; d. 1835, Kentucky. > iv. LEWISMCDANIEL, b. Abt. 1770. > More About LEWISMCDANIEL: > Blood: 1/2 Cherokee, 1/2 Scotch > > > v. MARYMCDANIEL, b. Abt. 1772. > More About MARYMCDANIEL: > Blood: 1/2 Cherokee, 1/2 Scotch > > > vi. NANNIEMCDANIEL, b. Abt. 1774. > More About NANNIEMCDANIEL: > Blood: 1/2 Cherokee, 1/2 Scotch > > > vii. ELIZABETHMCDANIEL, b. Abt. 1775. > More About ELIZABETHMCDANIEL: > Blood: 1/2 Cherokee, 1/2 Scotch > > > viii. SUSANNAHMCDANIEL, b. Abt. 1776. > More About SUSANNAHMCDANIEL: > Blood: 1/2 Cherokee, 1/2 Scotch > > > ix. RACHELMCDANIEL, b. Abt. 1777. > More About RACHELMCDANIEL: > Blood: 1/2 Cherokee, 1/2 Scotch > > > 40. x. WILLIAMMCDANIEL, JR, b. Abt. 1780; d. Aft. 1842 > ? > Judy, un beau gachis > Born with a 1200 ft. question looking for a sixty in. > answer.?http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=gary_young > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/y/o/u/Judith-A-Young/? > > > > >