I thought mc minnville tn was in coffee co??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Hughes lookups? > McMinnville is not in McMinn County, Crystal. McMinnville is northeast of > Knoxville. McMinn neighbors Polk and Monroe and is close to both the > Georgia and North Carolina state lines. > > McMinn Tennessee wasn't formed until 1820, prior to that it was Cherokee > Nation East. From 1820 until 1838 McMinn was considered by the State of > Tennessee to have legal jurisdiction over Indian lands to the Georgia and > NC > state lines. That was a bone of contention between the Cherokee Nation > and > the State of TN. One of the tools used by Andrew Jackson to instigate the > Removal. > > I might suggest you do a lookup in Cherokee Old Settlers Payment Book of > 1851 & 1896. You'll find Murphy Emigrants within the Old Settlers. Some > of > those Murphy's originated in Cherokee Co., NC and one or two out of > Conasauga Village in McMinn Co., TN. Young Wolf Murphy lived near Ruth > Helton/Matoy and emigrated apx the same time, perhaps the Harris > detachment. > Their Emigration lists show them to be from Conasauga BUT they traveled as > McGray's. After they got west they reverted to Matoy. > > Jesse Murphy m. Pheobe Allen in CCNC. The also signed up to Emigrate but > did return east. Jesse, Martin and THomas were the sons of Whiplash and > Mary 'Polly' Murphy. Whiplash is the documented son of Bell Rattler > (Rattling Gourd). > > Raven is a title not a name. > > Joyce Gaston Reece > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 11:31 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CherokeeGene] Hughes lookups? > > To the person who is in McMinnville, TN. My Hughes line is from > McMinnville. Prior to that, would be Bernard Hughes (trader) m. > Cherokee/Shawnee. Out > of McMinn Co. are: > > Bernard Hughes b. 1700 in Alabama, m. Sister Of Raven (?) 1726-1819 (some > have her birth as 1716) > James Hughes - b. 1742 m. Margaret (LNU) - (some question as to whether > there was actually a 1st & 2nd James Hughes) > James Hughes ggg-grandfather b. 1742-1762 (?) m. Margaret (LNU) > Lucy Hughes gg-grandmother b. 1817 McMinn, TN > m. John Murphy b. 1766 in NC > > Thank you for any help you can offer me. > > Crystal Mary Murphy > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And I should stand corrected. West North WEST of Knoxville Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Earleene Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 12:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Hughes lookups? I thought mc minnville tn was in coffee co??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <[email protected]ellsouth.net> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Hughes lookups? > McMinnville is not in McMinn County, Crystal. McMinnville is northeast of > Knoxville. McMinn neighbors Polk and Monroe and is close to both the > Georgia and North Carolina state lines. > > McMinn Tennessee wasn't formed until 1820, prior to that it was Cherokee > Nation East. From 1820 until 1838 McMinn was considered by the State of > Tennessee to have legal jurisdiction over Indian lands to the Georgia and > NC > state lines. That was a bone of contention between the Cherokee Nation > and > the State of TN. One of the tools used by Andrew Jackson to instigate the > Removal. > > I might suggest you do a lookup in Cherokee Old Settlers Payment Book of > 1851 & 1896. You'll find Murphy Emigrants within the Old Settlers. Some > of > those Murphy's originated in Cherokee Co., NC and one or two out of > Conasauga Village in McMinn Co., TN. Young Wolf Murphy lived near Ruth > Helton/Matoy and emigrated apx the same time, perhaps the Harris > detachment. > Their Emigration lists show them to be from Conasauga BUT they traveled as > McGray's. After they got west they reverted to Matoy. > > Jesse Murphy m. Pheobe Allen in CCNC. The also signed up to Emigrate but > did return east. Jesse, Martin and THomas were the sons of Whiplash and > Mary 'Polly' Murphy. Whiplash is the documented son of Bell Rattler > (Rattling Gourd). > > Raven is a title not a name. > > Joyce Gaston Reece > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 11:31 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CherokeeGene] Hughes lookups? > > To the person who is in McMinnville, TN. My Hughes line is from > McMinnville. Prior to that, would be Bernard Hughes (trader) m. > Cherokee/Shawnee. Out > of McMinn Co. are: > > Bernard Hughes b. 1700 in Alabama, m. Sister Of Raven (?) 1726-1819 (some > have her birth as 1716) > James Hughes - b. 1742 m. Margaret (LNU) - (some question as to whether > there was actually a 1st & 2nd James Hughes) > James Hughes ggg-grandfather b. 1742-1762 (?) m. Margaret (LNU) > Lucy Hughes gg-grandmother b. 1817 McMinn, TN > m. John Murphy b. 1766 in NC > > Thank you for any help you can offer me. > > Crystal Mary Murphy > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message