In the 1700's the Cherokee were busy building up the tribe by intermarriage. Most of the population, both populations, were building families. Occasionally strange activities did happen. Example is Thomas Jefferson and his sister who were left as orphans, went to live at the Tuckahoe Plantation on the James River. Most of the tribal slaughter happened in the 1800's .Whole villages were wiped out in the middle of the night. The first prominent happenings were at James Towne VA Very few Natives celebrate Thanksgiving. The Trail of Tears in the South East also happened in the South West. Certainly you have heard of tribes "disappearing"? On my desk is a list of tribes that disappeared over night. Later, The Presidential attitude was Indians were "nits" to be destroyed. There is a letter available that was sent to the Acting Washington Territorial Governor Issac Stevens from the President of the US. Just in recent years Eatonville WA School children discovered a slaughter there that had been covered up.About 1855. Two boys had escaped. See; Puayllup Indians.Or Chief Leschi who was tried twice and hung; and his brother, Quiamuth, murdered at the WA state Capital as a Guest. The take-over was almost complete by 1855. Very few of the Treatys have ever been honored by the FEDS.See Arkansas Cherokee /Most of the "Indians" were rounded up or killed and survivors placed on mumerous "reservations" that, later, were shut down and sold to Settlers. See: The Flathead Reservation, Montana. Sequoya died in Mexico. The Cherokee ask for permission to leave Texas and were denied. They went anyway and became "the Cherokee of Mexico" See Big Hole Montana.... Joyce, you obviously do not know your country's history. My heart cries for the people. OMG. Today the Native Americans suffer from PTSD from the continual generational trauma. And you want Documentation? Read or ask the Cherokee. They got docummentation. The Feds say as little as possible. BARB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] genealogy > I was speaking in terms of the 1700's. > > The Cherokee weren't in Arkansas until 1795 when Chief Bowls took the > first > emigrants there. The largest body of that group that formed the Old > Settlers > and the Keetowah Band going with Tah lon tee skee in 1809. It was part of > this group that emigrated into southeast Missouri...very early 1800's. > Those from the Bowl's group are the ones who later went to Mexico. > > There is ONE record that I've found of a group of 300 going from Georgia > to > the Nations Capital in the 1790's in order to get to know the president > and > country leaders > It is in Public Lands, Indian Affairs, American State Papers. > > If they were in Maryland, Delaware, please cite the resources for the > documentation for this knowledge. > > Are you saying that as many as 50 million Indians were killed? By whom? > Today's population in the state of Tennessee is apx 10-11,000,000 people > in > comparison. So are we to assume that you are saying that the entire > population of Indians was the number you stated? > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > -----Original Message----- > From: BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 2:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: earthfeather99 > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] genealogy > > North West Georgia was Cherokee Country. > > Actually the Cherokee were in Viginia, Maryland, Delaware, Washington > DC, North Carolina, South Carolina. Kentucky, Arkansas and Louisianna, > Missouri, Tennessee, Texas and Mexico.They were travelers.And they are > still > there, but usually hidden. Today it is said fifty million were massacred > or > killed by poison. They were a friendly people , eager to welcome and share > what they had. Their world was a Garden of Eden. They had nice homes, > gardens and ships. Frequently they > traveled to Great Britain Scotland, Ireland and Wales.And elsewhere. > > Cherokee is Not their name. They have never claimed to be "Indian" > > BARB > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Earleene" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 9:45 AM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] genealogy > > > > my family was in dade co ga,some of them migraed from wayne co ky. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Cc: "earthfeather99" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] genealogy > > > > > > > The Shawnee and the Cherokee were together in 1600's at Winchester > > > VA. > > > Most records were destroyed. But information can be found. Most > > > Cherokee > > > have Shawnee ancestors and Lenni-Lenape/Delaware.( Algonquin) We > > > are > > > thankful for them. > > > > > > Abraham Lincoln had his troops destroy the entire Winchester (Opequon > > > Shawnee village) area, 72 times, and then burned it.Both George > > > Washington and Lord Fairfax lived there with the Indians. Only the > > > Natives > > > know the story and "what" Lincoln was searching for...... The > > > Winchester > > > occupants went to Texas and elsewhere during the Civil War. And > > > returned > > > to rebuild. It is back-upped by out of print books. > > > > > > I think you mean NW Georgia.The Chicamouga were prevalent there. And > > > the > > > Gordon's and Chief John Ross.And the Great Chicamouga Battle at Lee > > > and > > > Gordon Mills.( My relatives)NW Georgia....EDMONDS. ALDERMAN, GORDON, > > > LEE,) > > > > > > Read the Memoirs of General John B Gordon and the Chickamouga Battle. > > > > > > Or at the Duck River in Tennessee where Captain John Gordon and > > > Cherokee-Powhatan Gordon family lived. > > > > > > An old Indian Trail devided the familys. at both ends, later became > > > "Federal Road" > > > > > > The BENGE's ( Red Paint Clan) and others, lived at Clay County, > > > Kentucky, > > > See: A J Goodwin. ( my GGgrandfather) > > > > > > See TUCKAHOE...LIttle Jake Troxel..and SEQUOYA( HALF-BROTHER TO MY > > > THIRD > > > GREAT GRANDMOTHER who married John "Tippy" HOUSE)AND begat JAMES HOUSE > > > AND > > > FIVE OTHERS. (DAUGHTER MARRIED McDaniel) > > > > > > The Cherokee History is NOT written down for the FEDS (the enemy.) > > > Please > > > remember the trail of Tears took place, because of force, and not by > > > an > > > act of friendship. Four thousand died. > > > > > > BACK in Virginia, James Gordon acquired the Gordonsville VA property > > > from > > > EDMONDS. From Georgia, my relatives first went to North Carolina, > > > Some > > > Aldermans are still there......Cherokee Long Hair twisted hair Clan > > > > > > Later some went to Gilgal Island Illinois.Later Tom Haynes wrote a > > > book > > > out of Montana, about Gilgal Island. > > > > > > Alderman and Edmonds went to Oregon/Washington Territory. My great > > > grandparents. They named my grandmother "Georgia".... > > > > > > On government records HOUSE was "white" but our Indian linage goes > > > back > > > to Delaware and the Cherokee.And the Lenni-Lenape > > > > > > BARB > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:30 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] genealogy > > > > > > > > >> Blevins were white who married into the Cherokee. > > >> > > >> Most rolls were taken in anticipation of a payment or claim for > > >> payment. > > >> Why would they 'run' from that? The rolls weren't 100% but they're > > >> all > > >> we've got. > > >> > > >> The region of Kentucky was not an area of heavy settlement for > > >> Indians > > >> we > > >> call Cherokee. It was ground claimed for hunting ground...lands > > >> they'd > > >> had > > >> conflicts with the Shawnee over during a long period of time. The > > >> majority > > >> of the settlement by them that we know about was in southeast > > >> Tennessee, > > >> south west North Carolina, northwest South Carolina, northeast > > >> Georgia. > > >> And, of course, the Chickamauga settlements in northeast Alabama and > > >> the > > >> region around what is now Chattanooga, TN > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Joyce Gaston Reece > > >> > > >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > >> this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain > > >> chatting > > >> is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > >> > > >> Rude people will be moderated asap! > > >> List archive > > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > >> Dual admin. > > >> Dan and Joyce > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > >> the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain > > > chatting > > > is > > > required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > > List archive > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > > Dual admin. > > > Dan and Joyce > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting > > is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > List archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > Dual admin. > > Dan and Joyce > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is > required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting > is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

American Indian suffer because they choose to, they continue to cry "whoa as me" & refuse to get on their own feet & always seeking a hand out. You act like you are the only authority in American History or Cherokee history, but you don't give sources, documention, etc. How many treaties did American Indians break? Either with themselves, other tribes or even the Fed's. If there was so much proof about the Cherokee Tribes, then why are they still searching for the answer's themselves. What does Puallup Indians have to do with the Cherokee? 2 boys from that area are not necessarily going to be able to provide proof of a slaughter. WHere's the documentation of this find? Where's the news reports? Where's the links or book title & author's to all your "see" this or that. Barbara You obviously thing you know far more then anyone here, yet you continue to give very little factual info. If they had documentation then it wouldn't be new discoveries & such about the areas they lived in or how they lived, etc. So if you have documentation to back up what you are boasting about......where is it. We're asking you.....as you are the one posting all of this stuff, claiming to know tons..... give specific's. Alli ----- Original Message ----- From: "BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "earthfeather99" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] genealogy > In the 1700's the Cherokee were busy building up the tribe by > intermarriage. > Most of the population, both populations, were building families. > Occasionally strange activities did happen. > > Example is Thomas Jefferson and his sister who were left as orphans, went > to live at the Tuckahoe Plantation on the James River. Most of the tribal > slaughter happened in the 1800's .Whole villages were wiped out in the > middle of the night. The first prominent happenings were at James Towne VA > > Very few Natives celebrate Thanksgiving. > > The Trail of Tears in the South East also happened in the South > West. > > Certainly you have heard of tribes "disappearing"? On my desk is a list of > tribes that disappeared over night. Later, The Presidential attitude > was Indians were "nits" to be destroyed. There is a letter available that > was sent to the Acting Washington Territorial Governor Issac Stevens from > the President of the US. > > Just in recent years Eatonville WA School children discovered a slaughter > there that had been covered up.About 1855. Two boys had escaped. See; > Puayllup Indians.Or Chief Leschi who was tried twice and hung; and > his brother, Quiamuth, murdered at the WA state Capital as a Guest. The > take-over was almost complete by 1855. > > Very few of the Treatys have ever been honored by the FEDS.See Arkansas > Cherokee /Most of the "Indians" were rounded up or killed and survivors > placed on mumerous "reservations" that, later, were shut down and sold to > Settlers. See: The Flathead Reservation, Montana. > > Sequoya died in Mexico. > The Cherokee ask for permission to leave Texas and were denied. They went > anyway and became "the Cherokee of Mexico" > > See Big Hole Montana.... > > Joyce, you obviously do not know your country's history. My heart cries > for the people. OMG. > > Today the Native Americans suffer from PTSD from the continual > generational trauma. > > And you want Documentation? Read or ask the Cherokee. They got > docummentation. The Feds say as little as possible. > > > > BARB > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 1:35 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] genealogy > > >> I was speaking in terms of the 1700's. >> >> The Cherokee weren't in Arkansas until 1795 when Chief Bowls took the >> first >> emigrants there. The largest body of that group that formed the Old >> Settlers >> and the Keetowah Band going with Tah lon tee skee in 1809. It was part >> of >> this group that emigrated into southeast Missouri...very early 1800's. >> Those from the Bowl's group are the ones who later went to Mexico. >> >> There is ONE record that I've found of a group of 300 going from Georgia >> to >> the Nations Capital in the 1790's in order to get to know the president >> and >> country leaders >> It is in Public Lands, Indian Affairs, American State Papers. >> >> If they were in Maryland, Delaware, please cite the resources for the >> documentation for this knowledge. >> >> Are you saying that as many as 50 million Indians were killed? By whom? >> Today's population in the state of Tennessee is apx 10-11,000,000 people >> in >> comparison. So are we to assume that you are saying that the entire >> population of Indians was the number you stated? >> >> >> >> Joyce Gaston Reece >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO >> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 2:32 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: earthfeather99 >> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] genealogy >> >> North West Georgia was Cherokee Country. >> >> Actually the Cherokee were in Viginia, Maryland, Delaware, Washington >> DC, North Carolina, South Carolina. Kentucky, Arkansas and Louisianna, >> Missouri, Tennessee, Texas and Mexico.They were travelers.And they are >> still >> there, but usually hidden. Today it is said fifty million were massacred >> or >> killed by poison. They were a friendly people , eager to welcome and >> share >> what they had. Their world was a Garden of Eden. They had nice homes, >> gardens and ships. Frequently they >> traveled to Great Britain Scotland, Ireland and Wales.And elsewhere. >> >> Cherokee is Not their name. They have never claimed to be "Indian" >> >> BARB >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Earleene" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 9:45 AM >> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] genealogy >> >> >> > my family was in dade co ga,some of them migraed from wayne co ky. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Cc: "earthfeather99" <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:17 PM >> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] genealogy >> > >> > >> > > The Shawnee and the Cherokee were together in 1600's at Winchester >> > > VA. >> > > Most records were destroyed. But information can be found. Most >> > > Cherokee >> > > have Shawnee ancestors and Lenni-Lenape/Delaware.( Algonquin) We >> > > are >> > > thankful for them. >> > > >> > > Abraham Lincoln had his troops destroy the entire Winchester (Opequon >> > > Shawnee village) area, 72 times, and then burned it.Both George >> > > Washington and Lord Fairfax lived there with the Indians. Only the >> > > Natives >> > > know the story and "what" Lincoln was searching for...... The >> > > Winchester >> > > occupants went to Texas and elsewhere during the Civil War. And >> > > returned >> > > to rebuild. It is back-upped by out of print books. >> > > >> > > I think you mean NW Georgia.The Chicamouga were prevalent there. And >> > > the >> > > Gordon's and Chief John Ross.And the Great Chicamouga Battle at Lee >> > > and >> > > Gordon Mills.( My relatives)NW Georgia....EDMONDS. ALDERMAN, GORDON, >> > > LEE,) >> > > >> > > Read the Memoirs of General John B Gordon and the Chickamouga Battle. >> > > >> > > Or at the Duck River in Tennessee where Captain John Gordon and >> > > Cherokee-Powhatan Gordon family lived. >> > > >> > > An old Indian Trail devided the familys. at both ends, later became >> > > "Federal Road" >> > > >> > > The BENGE's ( Red Paint Clan) and others, lived at Clay County, >> > > Kentucky, >> > > See: A J Goodwin. ( my GGgrandfather) >> > > >> > > See TUCKAHOE...LIttle Jake Troxel..and SEQUOYA( HALF-BROTHER TO MY >> > > THIRD >> > > GREAT GRANDMOTHER who married John "Tippy" HOUSE)AND begat JAMES >> > > HOUSE >> > > AND >> > > FIVE OTHERS. (DAUGHTER MARRIED McDaniel) >> > > >> > > The Cherokee History is NOT written down for the FEDS (the enemy.) >> > > Please >> > > remember the trail of Tears took place, because of force, and not by >> > > an >> > > act of friendship. Four thousand died. >> > > >> > > BACK in Virginia, James Gordon acquired the Gordonsville VA property >> > > from >> > > EDMONDS. From Georgia, my relatives first went to North Carolina, >> > > Some >> > > Aldermans are still there......Cherokee Long Hair twisted hair Clan >> > > >> > > Later some went to Gilgal Island Illinois.Later Tom Haynes wrote a >> > > book >> > > out of Montana, about Gilgal Island. >> > > >> > > Alderman and Edmonds went to Oregon/Washington Territory. My great >> > > grandparents. They named my grandmother "Georgia".... >> > > >> > > On government records HOUSE was "white" but our Indian linage goes >> > > back >> > > to Delaware and the Cherokee.And the Lenni-Lenape >> > > >> > > BARB >> > > >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <[email protected]> >> > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:30 AM >> > > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] genealogy >> > > >> > > >> > >> Blevins were white who married into the Cherokee. >> > >> >> > >> Most rolls were taken in anticipation of a payment or claim for >> > >> payment. >> > >> Why would they 'run' from that? The rolls weren't 100% but they're >> > >> all >> > >> we've got. >> > >> >> > >> The region of Kentucky was not an area of heavy settlement for >> > >> Indians >> > >> we >> > >> call Cherokee. It was ground claimed for hunting ground...lands >> > >> they'd >> > >> had >> > >> conflicts with the Shawnee over during a long period of time. The >> > >> majority >> > >> of the settlement by them that we know about was in southeast >> > >> Tennessee, >> > >> south west North Carolina, northwest South Carolina, northeast >> > >> Georgia. >> > >> And, of course, the Chickamauga settlements in northeast Alabama and >> > >> the >> > >> region around what is now Chattanooga, TN >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Joyce Gaston Reece >> > >> >> > >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> > >> this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain >> > >> chatting >> > >> is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. >> > >> >> > >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> > >> List archive >> > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> > >> Dual admin. >> > >> Dan and Joyce >> > >> ------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > >> without >> > >> the >> > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> > > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain >> > > chatting >> > > is >> > > required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. >> > > >> > > Rude people will be moderated asap! >> > > List archive >> > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> > > Dual admin. >> > > Dan and Joyce >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > > the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain >> > chatting >> > is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. >> > >> > Rude people will be moderated asap! >> > List archive >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> > Dual admin. >> > Dan and Joyce >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting >> is >> required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting >> is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is > required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message