I didn't say use them together.......... I said I have used them (separately) & haven't had issues. I just use the 3 you mentioned (Spy Bot Search & destroy & ESS) ...ok technically if i could read.....its only 2......but again.......that's all i use. but to scan I have used Trend Micro before learning about ESS :) But the other programs have let trojans through but claim your computer is clean.....I know.....I had to clean my mom's computer a few years ago & used Trend Micro, when McAfee & Norton & a computer tech, claimed she was clean but she wasn't. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dj M" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] OT vir-programs > Do not use Ms Ess with AVg. > No no no! > > spy bot search and destroy and ESS all you need. Can mcaffee and norton > and > avg. Ms ess is made by windows for windows and free. > Neger run 2 anti virus or even have them.installed on one machine. It > makes > a mess on how they work and messes up registry and shared files > and.produces false hits beause one will pick up the other. Some times they > can cancell each other out and you get the virus.