The Bernard Hughes I am researching - his info (approximate) follows: Bernard Hughes b. abt 1700 he was an Indian Trader m. Sallie Socoonie(sp?) Cherokee Lady Children: James b. abt. 1742, m. Margaret (lnu) (my line) John b. abt 1743 Sarah b. abt 1744 Please note, all I have to go on for Sally (m. Bernard) is info I got off of Ancestry. I will post below the info I have on her: Sallie Woman of Ani'ga'tag'wi Moytoy b. 1716-1726 daughter of: Moytoy 1640-1741 (?) - Son of Amatoy Moytoy & Quatsy of Tellico & Woman of Deer Clan 1686-1730 (I have also seen Wolf Clan) ********** This is another line going back to Moytoy The above persons were born in Cherokee Nation East. In a message dated 12/28/2012 6:03:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I'm sure Diane won't mind if I post here From: "Diane S" <[email protected]> Subject: [HEMBREE] Daniel Bernard Hughes Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 05:10:30 -0400 References: <[email protected]> Hi Joyce - Found something that others on this list might like to see... and Larry too! Heads up! MEMORIES of LT HENRY TIMBERLAKE The Story of A Soldier, Adventurer and Emissary to the Cherokees 1756 - 1765 Edited by Duane H. King According to these memoires, Lt. Timberlake met a white woman named 'Mary Hughes' who said she had been taken about 12 mos. ago and that they were treated cruelly with no clothes for the harsh winter. The Lt. gave her some blankets and shirts that he had brought with him. Late in the book he says that Mary Hughes was the widow of Bernard Hughes, trader at Stepcoe. I am thinking this is perhaps Daniel Bernard Jr. since according to other histories it says that Mary Ward was married to Bernard Hughes before marrying Ward or was this the same woman? Was Mary Ward known to be full Cherokee? I have just assumed that all of the Hughes men were of mixed blood except Daniel Bernard Hughes, Sr. and now it appears my 'assumptions' were wrong... or was Sr.'s wife Cherokee, and then Jr. married this Mary? As you know I have no dates for any of them except for Charles Hughes' probable date of death as 1792 or 1806 - doesn't help much when tryiing to piece together this crazy quilt! Ironically, I also believe that Mary Moore Ayres was married first to another of my ancestors on my father's side... first, I always heard this 'story', and although far more romantic than real, my grandmother did not pass on 'tales' but so far I have verified her 'tales' so take this a bit more to heart that usual. One of my ancestors is a Thomas Ayres (Ayers), Rev. War soldier, although a bit elderly... d. Columbia County, Georgia, and I believe his father was Lt. Thomas Ayres who was Oglethorpe's liason to the Cherokee, thus he would require a translator... Mary Moore WAS married to Thomas Ayres who died young.. leaving everything to his brother, John, who lived in Charleston. Did he do this because a son from a marriage to Mary would not be allowed to inherit ever since he would be of mixed blood? Was this son raised by his brother, or left with the tribe when Mary married John Amory? Just too many coincidences to not have a bit of truth to it... and my grandmother told my brother that we were related to Chief Joseph Vann when she took him to see his home in Georgia. Do you think I am just barking up the wrong tree, or is this worth further research? See more notes below on Hughes men... Thanks Diane S In 1751, the Lower Cherokee (SC) began attacking the English traders. Bernard Hughes Sr. was reportedly killed in April 1751. (Turns out he escaped and left his post at Stecoe on the Tuskasegee River in NC (by order of Chief Raven) and retired to Ninety Six.) [SC Commons Journal of 7 May 1752] Daniel Murphy (a son-in-law of Hughes?) was killed farther north. The Indians attacked Ninety-Six and John Vann fled with his wife and children to Augusta, GA in May 1751. [SC Commons Journal of 13 May 1751] When he returned to Ninety Six he operated a trading post with Bernard Hughes. In 1760, John Downing and Bernard Hughes fled the Cherokee and stayed at John Vann's house on the Broad River in GA. (1) Rachel HUGHES b abt 1790 Valley Towns, Chota-Chistatoa d abt 1851 dau of ELIZABETH* "Betsy" WARD and Daniel Barnard Hughes Nancy WARD Tsistuna-Gis-Ke b c1738 in Chota City of Refuge d.15 Aug 1815, Franklin County, Georgia at her brother's home She was buried near Benton, Polk Co, Tennessee in War Woman or Woman Killer Ford, Benton, Amovey District, Polk Co., Tennessee; buried atop a hill south of Benton, Tennessee- Nancy Ward Memorial, Polk County, Tennessee [ a.k.a. Nanye-hi of the Wolf Clan) "the Ghi-Ga-U", Beloved Woman of the Cherokees , Cherokee, Beloved War Woman, Beloved Woman, Ghighau Rose and Tsistuna-gis-ke (wildrose) ] 3/4th Shawnee-Cherokee -- She married first a14y (bfr 1752) to 32 year old (1) Tsu-la Red Fox Chutlow KINGFISHER (of the Deer Clan) b. c1720/32 Cherokee Nation East, Tennessee d. ** <http://www.infomagic.net/~nmcarter/dat27.htm>; was shot and killed in a battle with the Creek Indians 1755, Caton, Georgia. She filled his place in the battle and picked up her dead husband's musket and led the Cherokee to victory. Because of this, she was honored with the highest ranking any Cherokee woman could attain, Ghighuaa.became The Ghi-ga-u (2) Bryant Ward abt 1759 - Irish (or Scots-Irish) located in the Cherokee country as a trader b 1730 Amtrim Co, Ireland, d 15 Aug 1815 Franklin Co, Georgia ** <http://www.infomagic.net/~nmcarter/dat27.htm>; ** <http://www.rootsweb.com/~scsparta/spb_scot.htm>; --- Bryant was a fur trader, and was from South Carolina - he returned to his family there after he and Nancy had Elizabeth. She was described even after she was an old woman as a person of remarkable beauty, poise "with a queenly and commanding presence." Nancy's life stood for peace but she always warned her people of many bad things to come. She became the first woman to ever talk at a peace treaty with the white man. She was bestowed with the title of Ghigua - Beloved Woman of the Cherokee - and thereby became Head of the Council of Women and held a voting seat in the Council of Chiefs. The Ghigua was given the responsibility of prisoners and would decide their fate. She later married Bryant Ward, a white trader. Nancy Ward was a respected woman among the Cherokees and the white settlers. She was an outspoken supporter of peace, and participated in several treaty negotiations and even spoke at the Treaty of Hopewell in 1785 where she spoke about her hopes for a continued peace. But the numerous treaties that agreed to honor Cherokee land rights were broken, and in 1819 the Hiwassee Purchases forced Nancy to abandon her home in Chota and settle further south on the Ocoee River. She lived (1738-1822). --- Her second husband was Bryant Ward, ---Ward had brought his son, John, whose deceased mother was a White woman, and John subsequently married Catherine "Katie" McDaniel <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/h/e/Kerry-A-Wheeler/GENE7-0013 .html>;, dau of Grasshopper -Granny Hopper b abt 1730 & William David, Sr. McDaniel. Bryant Ward had one daughter; Elizabeth, by The Ghi-ga-u (Beloved Woman of the Cherokees); whose first husband was Brigadier General Joseph Martin and her second husband was ____ Hughes, a trader. Bryan Ward lived only a few years after his marriage to The Ghi-ga-u." Page 468. Dr. Emmett Starr ** <http://www.genealogy.com/users/w/a/r/Larry-Ward/>; ** <http://hometown.aol.com/rarebk/starr.html>; ** <http://www.galegroup.com/free_resources/whm/bio/ward_n.htm>; ** <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prsjr/na/people/cherokee/1st-famil ies.htm>; ---"General Joseph Martin, from Virginia, was appointed Indian Agent to the Cherokees. Having much in common with Bryant Ward, they became close friends. On one of his trips into Upper South Carolina he met Nancy [Ward]and [her daughter]Elizabeth[Ward]. He was entranced by the beauty of this daughter of his friend, Bryant Ward, and asked for and was granted her hand in marriage. He and his bride bought land adjacent to Bryant when they settled on the west branch of the Toogaloo River in an area that later became old Franlkin County in northeast Georgia." - Nancy Ward, Beautiful Woman of Two Worlds by Robert G. Adams, Hampton House Printers, Chattanooga, Tennessee, 1979, page 93-94. ** <http://www.geocities.com/genjosmartin/Nanyehe.html>; *---* <http://www.geocities.com/genjosmartin/Nanyehe1.htmlml>; ELIZABETH* "Betsy" WARD b. September 18, 1757 ** <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/h/e/Kerry-A-Wheeler/GENE7-0016 .html>; in Chota, Cherokee Nation East,(now TN) on the Little Tenn. River died Est. 1783-1849 in Moss, Clay, TN. md . Brigadier General Joseph Martin II [ ** <http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnpolk2/martin.htm>; During peace talks (July 1777) Captain Martin meets Betsy-- They marry.] in Cherokee Nation East, TN , [2 Ch.] (son of Joseph MARTIN Sr. and Susannah CHILES) b. 18 Sept 1740 in Charlottesville/Martinsville, Albemarle, VA. d.18 Dec 1808 in Leatherwood Martinsville, Henry Co., VA. buried in "Belmont," Henry Co, VA his estate on Leatherwood, of 1210 acres, purchased in 1796 of Benjamin Harrison, Jr., of Berkley (2) Daniel Barnard Hughes in 1786 in,Cherokee Nation East (now TN) b 1750 - 1759 in TN, d abt 1789-1841 3 John HUGHES b abt 1777, Valley Towns, Chota-Chistatoa ** <http://moytoy.tbhnet.net/html/d0000/g0000000.html>; 4 Nancy HUGHES b abt 1778, Valley Towns, Chota-Chistatoa d in Ahmacolola River, Lumpkin, Georgia md (1) James Crittenden son of Charles Crittenden and Nancy Downing (2) Young Dragging Canoe --View children line below under Young Dragging Canoe and Nancy Hughes section 1 William Crittenden b Georgia, married (1) ___ (2) Malinda House 1827 b 1810 in Cherokee, Swain, NC (3) Louisa CROSS 1843 b 1810 ** <http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3289264&id=I38736>; 1 Moses Crittenden b: 10 May 1825 in Eastern Cherokee Nation, Georgia, d 27 Jan1899 Diamond Grove, Ok married Edith Quinton 1 Clara "Clary" Crittenden had a daughter with Kinney Lauderville Winton 1 Lydia Crittenden married John Jasper Coughran 1 Clara Bessie Coughran 1 1 Bradley Cobb ** <http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?Edith,CRITTENDEN::winton ::471.html>; Nancy Hughes 1809 b abt 1775 Valley Towns, Chota-Chistatoa [she was also to married James Crittenden b 1770 GA -- They had Lydia Crittenden b 1804 1804 in Cherokee Nation East, Georgia] --- see this line under Nancy Hughes dau of Elizabeth Ward that was married to Daniel Hughes and Brigadier General Joseph Martin ** <http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?Holloway::tucker::8386.h tml>; --- Dragging Canoe (the younger; Cherokee chief), 11:314 is noted in The Papers of George Washington --- Dragging Canoe is shown Mustered in 25Oct1861 - Muster roll at Fort Gibson , I.N. 5 Nov1861 1st Cherokee Mounted Riflemen <http://www.couchgenweb.com/civilwar/E1stCher.html>; ** <http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/index/presidential/list.html>; --- Point Pleasant 1774, ---raiding KY-OH-VA 1777 with father, ---British Army-Revolution, Cheeseekau & Bob Benge 1777, British Army-Revolution, Capt. James Foster Co U.S. Army-Creek War --- Canada and Native People"Our Nation was alone and surrounded. We were forced to leave our towns-- and now we live in the grass as you see us. But we are not yet conquered."-- Tsiyu Gansini, 1779** <http://www.interlog.com/~gilgames/atnattod.htm>; ---"....Finally the whole country, which the Cherokees and their fathers have so occupied, will be demanded, and the remnants of the Ani Yunwiya, the "Real People", once so great and formidable, will be compelled to seek refuge in some distant wilderness.. Should we not therefore run all risks and incur all consequences, rather than submit to further laceration of our country? Such treaties may be all right for men who are too old to hunt or fight. As for me I have my young warriors about me. We will have our lands. __ Tsiyu Gansini (Dragging Canoe), Cherokee ***Dr. Emmett Starr references : Canoe (3) pgs 336, 341, 381 : Consene (2) pgs 329, 336 ** <http://hometown.aol.com/rarebk/cherokee.html>; ** Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Wanda Pezzaglia Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 5:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CherokeeGene] Daniel Bernard Hughes/Hembree site Went to the Hembree site that Joyce mentions. Archive Message on May 2010 is great. She gives a length discussion regarding Daniel Bernard Hughes. Highly recommend reading it. Went to the movies and checked the messages after coming home--what a surprise. wanda =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. 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