Joyce It is my belief that the James M who is 5, listed below...is my James Matt Martin married to Sara Amanda Cox... I have his (James Matt Martin's) name and Michael's name from my mothers Bible...but it was pointed out to me, that Michael could be a miss write...and not be his father, but his brother...but that is all the info I have on my Martins....I have Never been able to find any info other than this...and Joy King actually found this little piece for me on Ancestry .... I know that there was a lot of 'Closed mouth's ' regarding the familiy my mother came from...and many stories...I remember hearing my mom talk about how she was told stories about family member's in hiding....that someone had destroyed property and someone was murdered...and with the property destruction family papers were destroyed (Don't know which family line that story is from)...I also remember my mother talking about how no one would admit to being Cherokee...or "Indian" that it was also possible we were Creek as well..?..., that there was a 'disinheritance from a wealthy family in Va, from the Randolphs line, when my Sizemore's grandma married a Randolph...as we heard growing up...we were to 'keep our mouth shut'...which is how she was raised....I know that some of that had to do with her mother being a Sizemore...but she married a Martin... I have heard of him, but I have truly not really read much about him, maybe I should....when yuo said ' THE' you got me courious...so I will have to do some looking... If you come across any info, Please let me know.. Thanks Cat "Joyce G. Reece" <jgreece@earthlink.net> wrote: Cathy Do you have any inkling that your Joseph could be descended from THE Joseph Martin via son James? The one who seems to be missing his children? Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy Raney To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Martin Hello Debbie My maternal grandfather is a Charles Bruner Martin,,info below from TN...perhaps some of these names might ring a bell...would be wonderful if some had something I don't... Cat ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ancestry.com- 1850 census Washington Co., TN- 4th Subdivision- Eastern Division- census p.244- image 238- 1975/2008 Joseph MARTIN 28 M BlackSmith [all b.TN] Margaretta 28 F Michael 6 M James M. 5 M Mary 3 F Elbert 2 M > My maternal grandpa was; > > Charles Bruner MARTIN,b.06 Feb 1881,BoonesCreek,Washington Co.,TN, died 08 > aug 1961Johnson City,Wash.Co.TN....married to > >> Ida Jean SIZEMORE,b. 17 Sept 1884,CranberryN.C. > > His father was ; > James Matt MARTIN..............married..Sarah Amanda COX, b. Nov > 1847, Jonesboro,Wash.Co. TN > > His Father; > Michael MARTIN...........no info ILA W wrote: Debbie, I am enormously grateful for you my genealogy friend!!!!! You share an incredible amount of data! Still working through these Martin families. They have to be collaterals. I see a lot of naming patterns which match, some of the dates. I purchased a copy of " Maryland and Virginia Colonials: Genealogies of Some Colonial Families" by Sharon J. Doliante. It is an excellent resource. I appreciate the recommendation. Anyway, book arrived in yesterday's mail and have not had time to do anything but glance. I tend to get 'the busies' (from Grandma's quotes) in the month of July and things move a little more slowly. I need to check on the Harris lineage more closely and get notes of that to you. OR did I already do that? Off top of my head.....Thomas Harris/Harrison (he used both variously depending on the document) in the mid 1700's married to Jemima Bayliss. More on that later. My mom is a Wolfe.....from Laurens Co, SC....we may have a connection there also? More on that later! Thank you again so very, very much! Your kindness will multiply! Ila ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com