Oiyo Bob, Sounds like you have a lot of details already. My husband found out that a lot of Cherokees defined themselves as white after the removal to avoid persecution. Many of them lived in TN, AK and TX before the Cherokee Nation offered amnesty and tried to lure them back (many still did not go) in the 1890's (with stipulations like getting re-married in the CN). There are but a few Butlers on the Dawes, but not ours. Happy hunting. J. --- Staya Udanvti Bob Butler <cherokeebo@starband.net> wrote: > Osiyo J! > > I have too many to list here. > I can send you my GEDCOM if you have a software > program to run it. > My brick wall is my GGrandfather, Calvin Martin > Butler, b=September 08, 1831, Grainger Co, TN, and > wife Ellen Virginia Ro(w)land, b=June 05, 1846, TN?. > Homestead in Grainger Co (estab 1870), TN. > Calvin was a Union soldier for 3 years in the 1st TN > Cav. and died in 1890 Jefferson City, TN. > > Passed down family info says that Calvin was 1/4 or > 1/2 Cherokee and Virginia was full blood, but both > were listed on the 1870 and 1880 census as white. > Calvin had piercing blue eyes. Neither were on any > rolls either. > > I have a James Butler, unk married to Nancy Sword, > unk. that could possibly be Calvin's parents. > Possible brother James Mathew Butler, b=abt 1818 TN, > married August 21, 1836 Grainger Co TN, to Unity > Whitehead , b= NC?. Only child listed Drucilla A > Butler, unk > > There is a help site online that has volunteers in > most towns that will look up local genealogy info: > http://www.raogk.org/faq-vols.htm > > Adageyudi > Bob Staya Udanvti Butler > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jay earl > To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 12:47 AM > Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Butler > > > O'siyo Bob Butler, > > My husband is researching James Columbus Butler, > an > orphan, rumored to have Cherokee lineage, but he > has > hit a brick wall. Many of his Butlers were from > Arkansas and do not appear on Dawes. Many of them > are > on the census' but are listed as white although > photo's of them look definately Native American. > Can > you post all your Butler names? > > Thanks. > > J. > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the > archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs