debbie:that was very well wrutten and so true.I always say thanks and sometimes i may forget for a time but I always mean thank you to everyone.and so so very sorry for your loss I did not know,just know I am here for anyone that needs to talk. On 7/3/05, Debbie Woolf <woolfpac@prodigy.net> wrote: > > Joyce and all, > > I agree, thank yous are nice, but privately would be best. There is > nothing > genealogy related > in them. However, since it's been brought up I've done some thinking and > although my comments weren't asked for I feel compelled to give some. I > hope > it's okay with you all. > > Sometimes people have overwhelming lives and to expect thank yous every > time > is not realistic. I try to say it, but I'm sure I've forgotten it too. My > life has changed radically in the past 15 mos., and I'm still coping. > Don't > judge people as being rude for not always using nicities on in response to > your help. Help because you want to help. I have given up alot of family > data, links, sources to not get a thank- you back, many times. I don't let > it influence my thinking of that person. often they want to go out and > research and in their eagerness, they take the leads I give and are off > like > a TB in a race and I hear back maybe 6 mos or later about a new finding > and > they say thanks for getting me the info. I needed to do that. > > Many times people help in subtle ways, without expecting anything as a > result. I hope I don't embarrass her, but Connie Mead is one of those > people. She has often responded privately to me, with a lookup, or with > helpful info. She is always one of the people on the list willing to help. > She > is also one of the most caring I've ever met. She knows what I have gone > through the past 15 mos. > and every so often in my email, up pops a Card from Connie Mead, timed > just > about when I need an uplift. Many people came to my help the first day of > my loss, many came after, offering their help. Few know how to help > though. > Connie is one of those rare people, who helps very quietly, > very unassuming and without any expectations. I salute you Connie, today, > July 3rd, as being a real hero. You are truly all American. I am proud > to say I have met your acquaintance and this is my THANK YOU to you for > being there for mos. by my side, in your quiet, unassuming way. NEver > expecting a thank you, nor did you receive any, and yet, you persisted, > sending card after card to me, timed as I said, to help. All special > occasions have been met with a card. Tomorrow as I celebrate July 4th, I > will be thinking of you and others like you, Americans who are truly > caring > and helpful people. People like you made AMerica what it is today. > > this may not be the place for thank yous, but I am making a huge point > here. > People who care can help, without expecting anything in return. Connie is > one of those people. So today I am trying to make a point and at the same > time point out a true humanitarian. I applaud Connie and others like her, > who give effortlessly and without expectation. Thank you again Connie, > from > the bottom of my heart. Thank you everyone, who like Connie, has been > there > for me, for us, for the list. It truly is a good list and there are many > here who care. > > remember our goal, to find our ancestors, and let that guide you. Don't be > persuaded away from seeking the info. you are looking for....you deserve > to > know your ancestors, you have the right to seek it and above all else, I > hope that each of you help where you can those who need the info. > Knowledge, like books, should be shared items. I believe a general THANK > YOU to the list for helping should suffice for everyone who may have > pitched > in on a particular request/query, or private emails should be sent by the > seeker, but remember, each person has a life and sometimes it is easy in > every day life to forget to say thank you. Best to just ask if they got > the info. and see if > that prompts a thank you if you need it to verify they received the info. > For me, having a small ranch, 12 horses, hay to put up, irrigation to do, > fences to mend is an everyday, time consuming chore, and I often do mean > well, but put off the thank you notes until "Tomorrow" and forget. With > the > passing of my spouse, my life has been topsy turvy and finding a balance > has > been a struggle. The note wasn't directed to me but I'm hoping that for > those who think of non-thank yous as rude you think of the other side. > Perhaps the person has a very consuming life (Don't we all, but some more > than others). What is the saying ? walk a mile in someone's shoes before > you condemn them. (something like that, anyway, good idea). > > Debbie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joyce G. Reece" <jgreece@earthlink.net> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:34 AM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] FYI and a Question > > > > Don > > > > She was referring to a past post in which one poster and spoken to > another > poster about saying thank you etc. It is/was nothing important. BUT you > are correct. Taking emails off list can be a bad thing sometimes. We all > strive for one word, one post, one itty-bitty item that will point us > toward > firm information....thus the reason for these mail lists. I'm a firm > believer in open communication...its helped me enormously several times. > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Don Ott > > To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 11:24 PM > > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] FYI and a Question > > > > > > Well I can tell you that I really enjoy this list but I most enjoy > it > > when people answer to the list. Some of those answers are connected to > my > > family. When we answer off list I never know about that. Why do you > > encourage folks to answer off list? I can just easily delete a response > that > > is not related to my family. I am eager to publicize all my family, why > are > > you not? > > Don > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <MLi2408512@aol.com> > > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 5:42 PM > > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] FYI and a Question > > > > > > > May I remind people that this list is not for arguing and insults but > for > > > genealogy. 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