Alli, this did happen, a lot, some didn't want anyone to know they were native american. If they could pass for another race, they did. All for different reasons. So they didn't go on the rolls. Judy, there were a lot of rolls going back to nearly or before 1800. You are probably right for the Dawes roll but the earlier ones occured in a lot of other states. Gracie in Okla. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <judy@genealogysurnames.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] question on Cherokee by blood > Just a guess Alli, he was the only one that registered. Remember people had > to travel to Oklahoma or be living in Oklahoma at the time the rolls were > done. > > I have a cousin in the same situation. Her gggrandfathers sister is listed > but he isn't. That doesn't do a thing for her. You have to prove direct > connection to the person, if his parents were there it might work. > > Judy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alli" <iamcheroke@filertel.com> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 7:29 PM > Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] question on Cherokee by blood > > > > Ok...... > > I have a brother to my dbl. great grandpa that apparently has an app. and > > he's listed on the Dawes Final Roll as being Cherokee by blood. > > How on earth can he be listed but the rest of the siblings aren't & how > > can I show the connection? > > > > Alli > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >

Yeah my dad's family seemed to only want certain people or family members to know of this. My dad went to Tahlequah w/my Great grandma to finish doing her app. apparently she had to go back. But the day they were there she & the commission worked on it, but they needed her to come back the next day. She didn't have enough money to stay in a hotel so they rode the train back home & she never went back that he can recall as it was too costly for her. He thought it was her original app. but it wasn't But she told him of their Cherokee blood, but unfortunately didn't provide any info. about it. He (my dad) only had 1 # that he thought was a Roll # for his Uncle (Great) but it turned out just to be his application # (which the people at the Cherokee Nation office didn't even know, they told him it must be a typo) Anyway, they filled out the Eastern Cherokee Applications & my triple Great grandma was rejected thus the kids, but claimed to have drawn "Bread Money" from the Cherokee Tribe in 1872 in Tahlequah. Now my Dbl. Great Grandpa, I haven't checked to see if they had any Indian blood in them, but they did marry into the tribe or at least married some women that did have some Indian blood. So of course their kids would claim, but I figured the hubby's couldn't unless it was by marriage. Alli :) > Alli, this did happen, a lot, some didn't want anyone to know they were > native > american. If they could pass for another race, they did. All for different > reasons. > So they didn't go on the rolls. > > Judy, there were a lot of rolls going back to nearly or before 1800. > You are probably right for the Dawes roll but the earlier ones occured > in a lot of other states. > > Gracie in Okla.