I was hoping some of you would have comments concerning the Dragging Canoe article. This article is backed by some fairly 'forceful' documentation. D.C.'s birthdate and place (1740's in Malaquo in the Overhills) is ascertained from John Brown's Old Frontiers....a reference adhered to by many. There seems to be a closer relationship to Captain John Stuart than expected. John S. was second in command at Fort Loudon from 1756 to 1760. Stuart was close to Attakullakulla and had a child (Bushyhead) by Susannah Emory....dtr of Robert Emory and Catherine Grant (dtr of Ludovic Grant and Eugihooti). Attakullakulla (The Little Carpenter), was the one who saved Stuarts life after the Bell Town Massacre near Tellico Plains just after the fall of Fort Loudon. Alexander Cameron is given credit for many of the red haired children that were present during this time. On page 177 it speaks of a group of whites traveling to Kentucky who were ambushed by a Shawnee war band. They weren't all Shawnee....some were Cherokee. Capt. Will Emory was with them. Daniel Boone recognized him....called him by name. Question: Wasn't "Cherokee Billy" or Will given as the name of the person who was supposed to have been murdered in Kentucky when the Red Bird was killed? THis is the one who many say was the progenitor of the Cherokee blood in the Brock lineage. On page 180 it tells of the packtrain of ammo sent to Chota. Just FYI, Tahlonteeskee was the leader of the band whom Dragging Canoe sent to confiscate the goods. When reading this article one should remember something. The Overhill people were always much more in favor of peace than the followers of Dragging Canoe were. This article seems to, somewhat, belittle the Beloved Men & Women of the Overhills because they favored peace. It was two different beliefs....two different ways of life. I don't think it is up to us to second guess either faction. We can try to understand but we weren't there and it will be very difficult for us to grasp how they felt. The Overhill people looked at DC as a threat to their way of life. They took it so far as to turn Alex Cameron and DC over to the Americans to help stop a war. That is when he moved into the area of the Chickmauga villages. It is also important to note that 'a number' of Dragging Canoe's men were WHITE men or men of mixed blood who were often more white than Cherokee. Any one else have comments? Joyce Gaston Reece

Joyce, Things are pretty crazy with the holiday preparations.. I seem to have lost the original link to the article you are referring to here. May I please have it again and I will check it out. Thanks a bunch, Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce G. Reece" <jgreece@earthlink.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 11:32 AM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Dragging Canoe Article > I was hoping some of you would have comments concerning the Dragging Canoe article. > > This article is backed by some fairly 'forceful' documentation. D.C.'s birthdate and place (1740's in Malaquo in the Overhills) is ascertained from John Brown's Old Frontiers....a reference adhered to by many. > > There seems to be a closer relationship to Captain John Stuart than expected. John S. was second in command at Fort Loudon from 1756 to 1760. Stuart was close to Attakullakulla and had a child (Bushyhead) by Susannah Emory....dtr of Robert Emory and Catherine Grant (dtr of Ludovic Grant and Eugihooti). Attakullakulla (The Little Carpenter), was the one who saved Stuarts life after the Bell Town Massacre near Tellico Plains just after the fall of Fort Loudon. > > Alexander Cameron is given credit for many of the red haired children that were present during this time. > > On page 177 it speaks of a group of whites traveling to Kentucky who were ambushed by a Shawnee war band. They weren't all Shawnee....some were Cherokee. Capt. Will Emory was with them. Daniel Boone recognized him....called him by name. > > Question: Wasn't "Cherokee Billy" or Will given as the name of the person who was supposed to have been murdered in Kentucky when the Red Bird was killed? THis is the one who many say was the progenitor of the Cherokee blood in the Brock lineage. > > On page 180 it tells of the packtrain of ammo sent to Chota. Just FYI, Tahlonteeskee was the leader of the band whom Dragging Canoe sent to confiscate the goods. > > When reading this article one should remember something. The Overhill people were always much more in favor of peace than the followers of Dragging Canoe were. This article seems to, somewhat, belittle the Beloved Men & Women of the Overhills because they favored peace. It was two different beliefs....two different ways of life. I don't think it is up to us to second guess either faction. We can try to understand but we weren't there and it will be very difficult for us to grasp how they felt. The Overhill people looked at DC as a threat to their way of life. They took it so far as to turn Alex Cameron and DC over to the Americans to help stop a war. That is when he moved into the area of the Chickmauga villages. > > It is also important to note that 'a number' of Dragging Canoe's men were WHITE men or men of mixed blood who were often more white than Cherokee. > > Any one else have comments? > > > > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > >