Dan, perhaps you can help me understanding the testing I had from SMFG which Genetree made available the mtdna that I tested for. It was free so I did it and paid Genetree a small fee for it's service. This was years ago and not knowing much, even though I'd read up on the subject, nor understanding the whole mtdna testing I didn't know the questions to ask "like markers (which I now understand is not in the mtdna testing). The testing was for only 7 "markers" or results however, I didn't understand the whole process. First, it said I was from the H5 grouping and I understood that and Genetree showed where that line came for, ending my line back in Texas in 1820 (I think). I know because my family was in Texas by 1835 I wasn't surprised by that. However this is what results the testing showed based on the Cambridge system Mitochondrial DNA Genetic Profile Location 16292 16304 263 315.1 456 523 524 Your sequence T C G C T -- -- Reference C T A -- C A C In filling out the mtdna forms I'm not sure WHICH set of Letters to use! I did notice a common factor among the letters and I did get some exact matches, one being a Chinese! and I'm not that as far as I know. However I wondered about that "bridge that" crossed back in the Ice Age into many people crossed between Asia and Alaska. Supposedly, these people kept moving south due to the weather. Though I've not really any proof, other than my family's reluctance to talk about our "Indian" blood and my grandfather's mother was "full blooded" according to my grandfather. My mother's side I have pretty much traced back to a line on her father's side to "Indian blood" and my grandmother's family line are some that are listed as "Chowtaw" in some list though proof is something I don't have at this time other they were from GA, SC, NC and again was in Texas by 1834. Plus, I watched a program that there is a belief among scientist of Mexico and America that the Malan tribe who "disappeared" used the same "blue" dye in the rituals and in their pottery that strangely wasn't found in that area. In fact, a common area the two men found was in the Georgia, NC and SC area. The same area where those snake like mounds of earth and even a newly discovered mound of earth that was designed to the Milam "found" cities in Mexico. They were discussing the possibilities of the tribe relocating from Mexico to Georgia, NC and SC area. I find these mysteries interesting and possible if one was to keep an open mind and to read articles online as well as publications on the migrations and possibilities of the populations of our World. Adiene -----Original Message----- From: Dan M Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 5:40 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Basques I sure your comments. History is Mystery. Dna is finding more uses. I always wondered If the Y dna is not passed by the female - how did it get into the baby male? Remember - there were many ships here ( before ) Columbus. How do we know, some of those did not add to the mix? Columbus claimed a mixed people he saw. Wearing turbans. The Vikings and Chinese were here hundreds of years before even Desoto. Europeans have been proved to be here 12,000 years before the first peoples. Then there is a research near the great lakes show tech 40,000 years ago of copper tools and arrow heads and then the center USA has other artifacts being studied. I have seen many races of people talked about being here, and I read what the archeologists find. So far, its getting to be a whole new system of a way of studies. Still with no conclusions. We wait. I think, the important thing to me now is, where did my DNA travel from to get here. I watched a video " Finding the Adam" a "Y" dna study to find out how far back they could get. Their conclusions were, Ethiopia, they lived on the coast, in those days the body needed sea food, dna mutated; some left the coast and went to other places, not needing sea food any more. This was said to be the reason people migrated - ?? - oh well, they said it not me ! I find lots of things interesting, but there are so many lies out there, it is easy for some one to make crazy claims. I think - there were more than one human like race here on our planet that never met each other, but the remains are still here. One tribe I did find interesting were the Chumash. I see all this, as an up in the air mystery. For now. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Reynolds" <s3js9938@gmail.com> To: "CherokeeGene" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Basques > HI, Dan! > > I think we can all agree that some of the great mysteries will lead to > surprising results when we attempt to unravel them. I wonder though - > why did they only do mtDNA? Did they not have any male skeletons to > work with? In any given population it is far more likely the women > will be from outside groups. They were easy prey for marauders, far > more easily captured than warrior males and carried to far off places, > impregnated by consent or otherwise. The male population, on the > other hand was often far more stable, although often not so long lived > because they lived a very dangerous life. I'd like to know what the > other side of the DNA says. We only have one side of the story. > > There's no reason to believe Atlantis didn't exist. In every story > there is at least a grain of truth at the core. The Atlantis myth or > story, however you chose to label it, is no different. It just > depends on how large the grain of truth might be. Could there have > been an advanced population here long before modern man wants to > believe? One whose homeland was destroyed and the remnants of that > society fanned out across the globe, or at least the areas Cayce > named? Certainly! I think it is supreme arrogance to think we are > the only technologically advanced people that have ever been. > Archaeological evidence leads to a different conclusion. Are we the > only advanced people in the whole of creation? Again, I think likely > not. There is much out there of which we have no knowledge. But it's > also not right to present as fact what we cannot back up as fact and > for which we have only myth - in the historical sense, not myth as in > a false but widely believed story. We can neither prove nor disprove > any of it, so it remains a mystery to us. > > What I find very interesting is the presence of haplogroup X. The > article notes this type is found frequently in Iroquoian populations. > The Cherokee would belong to this group unless they simply adopted the > language and are not of the same genetic stock. It would be very > enlightening to do a comparison. I have long wondered if the Cherokee > came from the same stock as many of the other Native Americans. So > many of the Cherokee, even before admixture, did not resemble the > other nations and their culture and mythology is often quite different > as well. How I'd love to be able to travel back in time to know for > certain! > > Have a great evening, all! > Susan > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Dan M <mygen2@d-matney.com> wrote: >> Barb kept talking about things some people thought were off base. >> But to look into those things you might find they were not so far off. >> http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_basques.htm#Additional_Information >> >> Dan >> >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and >> sort fact from (fiction). >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). 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