My greatgrandmother was Lottie Mahala LONG SMILEY (and a bunch of other names), the daughter of Lemuel LONG but she has no birth record so how do I prove she's the daughter of her father ? My names are: LONG, Maples DAUGHERTY, James CHAMBERS, SMILEY DAUGHERTY, James (different location in the Carolinas but possibly the same as above) ​ On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Alli :) via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Its not a very good subject line, but my brain is a little bit over heated > from the heat & congested from all the range fire smoke that has taken over > my area..looks like we're in some big city w/smog, except for us its smoke > :( > > > > Anyway....Its been a little while since I've been active in any way let > alone helpful. So, I thought I'd take a few minutes out to see if we could > get things moving a bit by posting the names that are *supposedly* > connected > to the Cherokee tribe & see if anyone else would like to post their brick > walls. I'm sure we've had some newbies join, so let's get everyone drug out > of the cobwebs & dusted off to see if anyone connects to anyone or if > someone can help another member...like the good ol' days :) > > > > My *connection* is: > > T-h-o-m-p-s-o-n * A-d-a-m-s * P-h-a-r-i-s-s (some variety in the spelling) > > > They were all in the North Carolina, Tenn area before moving to Missouri, > Arkansas & eventually Okla. > > > > I have recently became an in-home caregiver for an Elderly couple (mainly > the husband), he is part Indian (I don't know his %) & of course don't > remember the tribe off hand. But he's got some really cool family photos & > antiques & I think she might also have some indian blood too, so I'm really > excited to pick their brains about this stuff & see if they can help me, > she's already offered too. YEAH!! > > > > Anyway...who are y'all searching & where are you stuck at? > > > > Alli :) > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all"

I’ve seen similar names…….but Lemuel Long sticks out. It depends on the year that she was born. There’s census records, church records, school records. I’m assuming she was born at home. There’s also death records & marriage records. My grandmother was born at home & her father had to write a letter stating that fact in order for her to attend school. She was born in 1906-7 so there might be something similar for yours, depending on her year of birth. :) Not very helpful, but hopefully it is some what :) From: David STEVENS [mailto:david.stevensturner@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 11:12 PM To: Alli :); cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Listing names My greatgrandmother was Lottie Mahala LONG SMILEY (and a bunch of other names), the daughter of Lemuel LONG but she has no birth record so how do I prove she's the daughter of her father ? My names are: LONG, Maples DAUGHERTY, James CHAMBERS, SMILEY DAUGHERTY, James (different location in the Carolinas but possibly the same as above) ​

​Lemuel Dugan (Lem mah Ker ner hu ter) LONG is #22248 His daughter was born 1879 in Fairland, Ottawa, Indian Territory or in what was I.T. but is now Missouri. On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Alli :) via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I’ve seen similar names…….but Lemuel Long sticks out. > > > > It depends on the year that she was born. > > > There’s census records, church records, school records. I’m assuming she > was born at home. > > There’s also death records & marriage records. > > > > My grandmother was born at home & her father had to write a letter stating > that fact in order for her to attend school. She was born in 1906-7 > > > so there might be something similar for yours, depending on her year of > birth. :) > > > > Not very helpful, but hopefully it is some what :) > > > > From: David STEVENS [mailto:david.stevensturner@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 11:12 PM > To: Alli :); cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Listing names > > > > My greatgrandmother was Lottie Mahala LONG SMILEY (and a bunch of other > names), the daughter of Lemuel LONG but she has no birth record so how do I > prove she's the daughter of her father ? > > My names are: LONG, Maples > > DAUGHERTY, James > > CHAMBERS, > > SMILEY > > DAUGHERTY, James (different location in the Carolinas but possibly the > same as above) > > > > ​ > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all"

She died with the name Lottie Mahala MILLER, hers was the first funeral I was allowed to attend. She had no patience for children but I loved to watch her work in her gardens in Joplin.​ On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Alli :) via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I’ve seen similar names…….but Lemuel Long sticks out. > > > > It depends on the year that she was born. > > > There’s census records, church records, school records. I’m assuming she > was born at home. > > There’s also death records & marriage records. > > > > My grandmother was born at home & her father had to write a letter stating > that fact in order for her to attend school. She was born in 1906-7 > > > so there might be something similar for yours, depending on her year of > birth. :) > > > > Not very helpful, but hopefully it is some what :) > > > > From: David STEVENS [mailto:david.stevensturner@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 11:12 PM > To: Alli :); cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Listing names > > > > My greatgrandmother was Lottie Mahala LONG SMILEY (and a bunch of other > names), the daughter of Lemuel LONG but she has no birth record so how do I > prove she's the daughter of her father ? > > My names are: LONG, Maples > > DAUGHERTY, James > > CHAMBERS, > > SMILEY > > DAUGHERTY, James (different location in the Carolinas but possibly the > same as above) > > > > ​ > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all"

Do you have her death certificate? Her obituary? You can request a copy of her file from the Funeral home as well as from the cemetery. Do you have a copy of her marriage license? Depending on her age, she may have had to have her father give permission for it & he’d be listed. From: David STEVENS [mailto:david.stevensturner@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 5:26 AM To: Alli :); cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Listing names She died with the name Lottie Mahala MILLER, hers was the first funeral I was allowed to attend. She had no patience for children but I loved to watch her work in her gardens in Joplin.​

Yes, the same Lemuel Dugan LONG #22248 I found a death certificate in Joplin which lists the names of her parents. She has no other known documents. Her birth date & marriage date indicates she as 15 years old but no known documents in KS or other states. I'll do more searches in hopes of finding something new. Galena, KS, USA 1895 ​ On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Alli :) via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Do you have her death certificate? Her obituary? You can request a copy of > her file from the Funeral home as well as from the cemetery. > > > > Do you have a copy of her marriage license? Depending on her age, she may > have had to have her father give permission for it & he’d be listed. > > > > From: David STEVENS [mailto:david.stevensturner@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 5:26 AM > To: Alli :); cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Listing names > > > > She died with the name Lottie Mahala MILLER, hers was the first funeral I > was allowed to attend. She had no patience for children but I loved to > watch her work in her gardens in Joplin.​ > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all"