Beth, The best way to find out who might be right is look for that particular reference, even on the CNO's page directly. They may not "specifically" be on a chunk of land labeled or designated as a "rez" like many others......when their land is limited to a certain amount & in order to get benefits, land, etc & they have to live in a designated area.......guess what......that's a reservation. They may not like that "title" but it doesn't make it less true. Its just something that you'll have to look into to make sure your using the right terminology, otherwise I wouldn't worry about it much :0) Do not ignore your family lore, not everyone's family was "documented" but it doesn't make them any less Indian or the lore to be false. There's a lot of truth's in "stories" just gotta pick out the facts from fiction to find the answer's. :0) Look at the names, the locations, the physical characteristic's (if you have pictures)...that stuff doesn't lie. Take a DNA test to test for the Indian Markers (I forget the right terminology for that) don't give up until you've exhausted all avenues & turned over every rock possible. The worse thing that can happen is that your ancestor's weren't Cherokee, but are of a neighboring tribe. Good luck :0) -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene- Wado Kathy for correcting me on the use of Rez - I have heard others (some in OK) call it that, so was just following suit. No insult intended! Yes, I know all about family lore ... if you could see pix of this side of the family, you'd agree there is NA blood. Also, many other allied family members have been told of our Cherokee ancestry. How wonderful that you've documented your Tsalagi roots so well! I'm curious about your Cherokee PRATHERs. I have quite a bit of documentation on them and as of yet haven't come across the Tsalagi connection. What is the ancestry of yours? Mine: John Prather Odell > James Odell/Martha Prather > John Prather/Elizabeth Nuthall > Thomas Prather/Martha Sprigg > Jonathon Prather/Jane McKay > then back into England 1550's. My research has been on my direct line, but it would be great if siblings connect to your line! sgi, Beth
If - the ( proven ) Cherokee people, would take the DNA tests, it would give a better data bank to help those looking. I would be a time people helping people. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli : ) via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] My Cherokee Connection: Mary Ann Bell Mobley Orr > Beth, > > The best way to find out who might be right is look for that particular > reference, even on the CNO's page directly. > > They may not "specifically" be on a chunk of land labeled or designated as > a > "rez" like many others......when their land is limited to a certain amount > & > in order to get benefits, land, etc & they have to live in a designated > area.......guess what......that's a reservation. They may not like that > "title" but it doesn't make it less true. > > Its just something that you'll have to look into to make sure your using > the > right terminology, otherwise I wouldn't worry about it much :0) > > Do not ignore your family lore, not everyone's family was "documented" but > it doesn't make them any less Indian or the lore to be false. There's a > lot > of truth's in "stories" just gotta pick out the facts from fiction to find > the answer's. :0) > > Look at the names, the locations, the physical characteristic's (if you > have > pictures)...that stuff doesn't lie. Take a DNA test to test for the Indian > Markers (I forget the right terminology for that) don't give up until > you've > exhausted all avenues & turned over every rock possible. The worse thing > that can happen is that your ancestor's weren't Cherokee, but are of a > neighboring tribe. > > Good luck :0) > > -----Original Message----- > From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene- > Wado Kathy for correcting me on the use of Rez - I have heard others (some > in OK) call it that, so was just following suit. No insult intended! > > Yes, I know all about family lore ... if you could see pix of this side of > the family, you'd agree there is NA blood. Also, many other allied family > members have been told of our Cherokee ancestry. > > How wonderful that you've documented your Tsalagi roots so well! I'm > curious > about your Cherokee PRATHERs. I have quite a bit of documentation on them > and as of yet haven't come across the Tsalagi connection. What is the > ancestry of yours? Mine: John Prather Odell > James Odell/Martha Prather > > John Prather/Elizabeth Nuthall > Thomas Prather/Martha Sprigg > Jonathon > Prather/Jane McKay > then back into England 1550's. My research has been > on > my direct line, but it would be great if siblings connect to your line! > > sgi, > Beth > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
It would definitely help greatly if those with a "higher degree of blood" members or those closer to being full, would add their markers to the rest to be able to start pinpointing what markers are Cherokee or Comanche or Navajo or........etc. This is more about a scientific benefit or scientific help rather than what the "white man" might get. It'd just be nice to be able to take a DNA test & have them say that you have this % for this tribe & this % for this nationality/race, instead of .........you have this that the other, but nothing definite about "which" tribe....if one at all -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 11:37 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] My Cherokee Connection: Mary Ann Bell Mobley Orr If - the ( proven ) Cherokee people, would take the DNA tests, it would give a better data bank to help those looking. I would be a time people helping people. Dan