I am related to the Ward and Prather line. Also back to Queen of Holland was a lead Doc Ward was a cousin to Wilhelmina. Also to the England people. I am also a Rogers. Might be some interesting research. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Burns via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> To: "Beth Golden" <gramssearch4family@gmail.com>; <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] My Cherokee Connection: Mary Ann Bell Mobley Orr >I have to say something that so many people don't understand. The Cherokee >people in Oklahoma have never lived on a reservation. Please do not refer >to their land as this. It can be very insulting to a Cherokee who have >their proof of their Cherokee blood and have lived in the Cherokee Nation >all their lives. I am not being ugly just suggesting that you please >refrain from this term. It will save you at lot of heartache from the >people who help you find your roots. > > Also when researching your Cherokee roots keep an open mind. Sometimes > what you have been told is family lore and what you find might not be what > you have been told. I wish you all the best in finding your Cherokee > roots. Since you live in Georgia I am sure the answers you are looking for > will come to you. My third grandmother was born in Habersham Co., Georgia. > Her parents James Ward Sr. and Lucy Haynie Ward left the Cherokee Nation > East shortly after she was born and came to Arkansas in the early 1820's. > James and Lucy are buried at Siloam Springs, Arkansas and Rosanna Ward > Tittle is buried in Vinita, Craig Co., Oklahoma. She is registered on the > Old Settlers Roll. Her son James Marion Tittle and his daughter Jessie A. > Tittle Anderson is registered on the Dawes Roll. I also have my other > third Grandmother registered on the Dawes Roll, Edith Caroline Rogers > Prather. She is registered under the name of Caroline Prather. Her husband > was white and his line > goes back to Maryland and then on to England. I mention this as I see you > have someone in your line with a middle name Prather. The Prather line has > tons of history in England. If you are interested I can give you a website > on the Prather line. > > James Marion Tittle married Annie Henrietta Prather and she was also > Cherokee through her mother E. Caroline Rogers Prather. Annie died in 1893 > so she was not on the Dawes Roll. > > I am very fortunate that my Cherokee lines are well documented and I have > been able to find them. I know their were families that did not have to > documentation. In order to be on the Dawes Roll you had to lived in the > Cherokee Nation. There are three Federally recognized Cherokee tribes - > Cherokee Nation , United Keetoowah Band of the Cherokee Indians, and the > Eastern Cherokees. All others are not Federally recognized. > > I wish you all the luck in finding your roots. Keep looking and someday > you will find the truth. > > donadagohvi, > Kathleen Forshey-Burns > > > > > > > On Sunday, November 2, 2014 2:08 AM, Beth Golden via > <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Great idea, Dan! thanks! I'm Beth Golden, living in GA. My 2nd great > grandmother, Mary Ann Bell Mobley Orr wrote to my grandmother that she was > 1/4 Cherokee and according to my aunt, the family was quite proud of this > heritage, and visited their family on the Rez in OK. I've yet to find the > documentation. Mary Ann's ancestry (partial) is below. > > I too welcome the discussion and hope to meet long lost cousins! > > Also, if you don't know, NARA website has been completely revamped for > researching NA roots. I've not started exploring, but looking forward to > it. > http://www.archives.gov/research/native-americans/ > > all the best, > Beth > > Here's Mary Ann's info: > > 1. Mary Ann BELL: born 9 Apr 1836 in Cherokee County, AL; died 2 Aug 1922 > in McLennan County, TX. She married Alexander Franklin MOBLEY about 1857 > probably in Cedartown, Polk, GA. AF died during the Civil War and Mary > Ann > remarried John ORR, a widower, in Cherokee County, GA. After one of her > sons got in trouble with the law, they went to TX to escape prosecution. > > Her parents were: > > 2. John N BELL: born 17 Feb 1789 in Old Pendleton, Pickens, South > Carolina, > United States; died 24 Mar 1862 in Cedartown, Polk Co., GA. > > 3. Elizabeth ODELL: born Mar 1790 in Old Pendleton, Pickens, South > Carolina, United States; died 25 May 1867 in Forney, Cherokee, AL. > > Her grandparents were: > > 4. John BEALL: born 23 Nov 1760 in Prince Georges, Maryland, USA; died > 1804 > in Wilkes County, Georgia, USA. > > 5. Mary: born abt 1710; died abt 1810. I believe that Mary will be the > Cherokee connection, as from what I can gather so far, the others were not > Native American. > > 6. John Prather ODELL: born 1755 in Frederick, Frederick, Maryland, USA; > married 1782 in South Carolina, USA; died 1 Oct 1836 in Pickens, South > Carolina, > USA. > > 7. 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