I SENT THE INFO LAST YEAR! Joy From: Joy King Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 11:07 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Matney ECAs Dan, Still nothing new since we discussed your Matney on this list in 2004. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CherokeeGene/2004-08/1092151365 I’ve had this in my files for a couple of years, so decided to send it to the list. ECA No.25138 Acton: Rejected Syrennia Matney and 1 children. Residence; Hillsville, W. Va. Sizemore Case Remarks: Syrennia Matney Johney Matney W. J. Matney Rutha Dean English name: Syrennia Matney Indian name: [Blank] Residence and post office: Hillsville County: McDowell State: West Virginia How old are you? 41 years Where were you born? Floyd Co. Ky. Are you married? Yes Name and age of wife or husband: 58 years [no name given] To what tribe of Indians does he or she belong? Cherokee Indians Name all your children who were living on May 28, 1906, giving their ages: W J Matney #25140 23 years Johney Matney #25139 21 Years Riey Matney 10 years Rutha Dean #25141 [no age given] Give names of your father and mother, and your mother's name before marriage: Father: George Sizemore Mother: Polley Sizemore Maiden name: [None given] Where were they born? Father: Born Georgia or NC Mother: " " " Where did they reside in 1851, if living at that time? Father: Do not Know Mother: " " " Date of death of your father and mother: Father: Do not Know. Mother: " " " Were they ever enrolled for money, annuities, land or other benefits? If so, state when and where, and with what tribe of Indians: [Blank] Name all your brothers and sisters, giving ages, and residence if possible: Racheal Sizemore Polly Sizemore Caley Sizemore Jeney Sizemore William Sizemore State English and Indian names of your grandparents on both father's and mother's side, if possible: Father' Side: Do no Know Mother's Side: on Mother Side [apparently also not known] Where were they born? Do no Know only as told in N C Where did they reside in 1851, if living at that time? in Ky Give names of all their children, and residence, if possible: [Blank] Remarks. (Under this head the applicant may give any additional facts which will assist in proving his claim.) It is Said that We are of the Descendence? of Old Nedey Sizemore Who Was Said to be a full Blood Indian I solemnly swear that the forgoing statements made by me are true to the best of my knowledge and belier. J. B. Dean Witness to} Signature Syrenna her X mark Matney her mark} Subscribed and sworn to before me this 13th day of June 1907 Joseph Hall Notary Public, Personally appeared before me J. B. Dean and W G Dean who, being duly sworn, on oath depose and say that they are well acquainted with Syrennia Matney who makes the forgoing application and statements, and have known her for ? years and ? years, respectively, and know her to be the identical person she represents Herself to be, and that the statements made by her are true, to the best of their knowledge and belief, and they have not interest whatever in the claim. Witnesses to mark. J. B. Dean Hallsville W. Va W. G. Dean " Subscribed and sworn to before me this 13th day of June, 1907 Joseph Hall Notary Public. No. 25138 1. Through which parent or grand-parent do you claim Indian blood, and from what Indian tribe are you descended? Grand Parent Eastern Cherokee 2. As near as possible, give the names of your ancestors that were descended from the Indians who were living at any time between 1830 and 1860, and give the counties and states where each resided during said period, and especially in 1835 and 1851. Head Waters in Habor Sham ga 3. How are you recognized by the population? in the community in which you live? Are? you? considered white, Indian or colored by people generally? If colored, were you or any of your ancestors held as slaves either by Indians or white people? Recognised as Indian Blooded and never was held as Slaves. 4. Did you or any of your ancestors ever live with the Indians as an Indian or member of the tribe. If so, when and where did you or they live with the tribe? Head Waters in Habor Sham ga 5. Were you or any of your any of your Indian ancestors appeared on any Indian roll? If so, give the name of all those ????? I cant answer that question Eliza E. Williard? Copper Hill Tenn 25138 ECA No. 25139 Action: Rejected Name Johney Matney and X children. Residence: Hallsville, W.VA. Reasons: Sizemore Case State full name English name: John. Matney. Indian name: [Blank] Residence and post office: Hillsville County: McDowell State: West virginia How old are you? [Blank] Born [Blank] Where were you born? Floyd Co. Ky. Are your married? Yes Name and age of wife or husband: Victory Matney To what tribe of Indians doe he or she belong? Cheerikee Indians Name all your children who were living on May 28, 1906, giving their ages: None Give names of your father and mother, and your mother's name before marriage: Father: English name Aron Matney Mother: Syrina Matney Maiden name: Sizemore Sizemore Where were they born? Father: Floyd Co Ky Mother: " " " Where did they reside in 1851, if living at that time? Not Born at Time Father: Born Sept the 24 1849 Mother: Not Born Date of death of your father and mother: Father: Not Known Mother: " " Were they ever enrolled for money, annuities, land or other benefits? If so, state when and where, and with what tribe of Indians: Never Were I did not finish transcribing this application. There are 11 pages total. Also, No. 25140 W. J. Matney and 2 children Residence Hallsville, W. Va. Rejected Sizemore Case 13 pages No.1421 Martha Matney & 1 child Residence Pryon Creek. Okla. Admitted Sister to #72 Applicant enrolled by Chapman 1304. No. 72 Lurena Rivet Residence Owasso, Okla. Admitted Applicant is enrolled Chapman 1305. Applicant’s Father Joseph Henson C 1302 Her father was b. in Cherokee County, NC d. Jan. 9, 1891 Her mother was Selina Warrick b. in Lincoln Co., NC. Mother was a white woman. Both lived in Cherokee Co., NC in 1851 d. July 12, 1886. Brothers & sisters: Leonidas Henson b. Feb 11-1843 d. Jan 31-1868 Martha Matney Nov 1 1845 Pryor Creek I.T. George Henson Mar 21-1851 Jan 31-1868 Mary Shannon Nov 1-1855 In 1900 There are 5 pages in this application. All can be viewed, printed, or downloaded from: http://www.fold3.com/ Joy From: Dan M. Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 1:17 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Clarkston, Napier, Sizemore, Shepherd Joy. Can you show a connection to the Sizemore and Matney? Dan From: Dan M Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:59 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Joy King No, I had ask directly some time ago for this application ===> Cherokee Rolls: #25140 W J Matney, Publication # M685, Roll # 210, pg 13 Rejected W J Matney & 2 ch, reside Hallsville, McDowell Co, WV Sizemore Case Application 17 Jun 1907 William J is 23 yrs old, b Floyd Co, KY. Wife is 21 yrs old & is Cherokee. 2 ch: Rutha age 2, Opal age 1 His fa was Aron Matneyb 24 Sep 1849, mo Syrenna (Sizemore) Matney of Floyd Co, KY, she Cherokee Had bro Johny Matney age 21 & sis Ricy Matney age 10 b Georgia or NC.. ===> I wanted to see the whole file, some one claimed to have access to it, but never replied. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Joy King > Okay, I understand that, Alli. BUT if he wants to see the roots of all > the > Sizemore issues that have been occurring over the years and the thousands > of > hours people have spent de-cypering the multitude of items that have > occurred ANYONE should be willing to do the research and read what others > have concluded rather than ask one person to post her very large amount of > data to this list. This Sizemore issue is a multi-faceted one. It would > actually take hours for someone to filter thru all their research and type > up a report to send to this list.....when they already have it on a web > site. Isn't that asking a bit much? > > I am sure you've spent many an hour researching your family. Would you > want > to sit down to type up your deeds, Cherokee applications and all that sort > of data just to post to this list? > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! 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