Well, that's the thing though......many who were rejected by the Dawes Commission for the Dawes or Guion Miller Rolls were not necessarily rejected because they weren't Indians, there were that were rejected (as you said) not living in the Governments designated area's to be considered a "citizen" of that tribe. But in reality, they could very well could be. For me personally......its still a 50/50 thing. There's a lot of documents that are pointing to the fact that we are, but there's still a lot of questionable areas that make one wonder. LOL DNA is definitely a helpful tool. Alli :) -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joyce Gaston Reece Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:08 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] land I'll be the first one to agree with you on that one, Alli. As a matter of fact, the family does have dna that tells they do but that is nowhere near my area of expertise...if I have any. Joy is the one to speak on that subject. I have found that the majority of people who have applied do have some indian heritage...it just so happened that their branch didn't live on Indian land for many years and weren't re-accepted via the citizenship applications in the 1880's and 90's Joyce Gaston Reece

And then you have some others on that Real Cherokee Facebook page that say if you are not on the Dawes Rolls then you cannot be Cherokee. A little bias I think.....But you can prove a point to them and one of them works for the Cherokee Nation... Oh well .....I believe it is more import to find your family and know your heritage than to have a little blue card to tote around....I am fortunate that I can prove my heritage but there are some whose family didn't live in the (like you said) designated areas that the government wanted you to in order to be listed on the rolls. My Rogers line has some of that in it. My great great grandmother lived for a while in Texas and then moved back to the Cherokee Nation at some point. It took almost an act of congress to prove they were whom they were. Both had died before they were granted citizenship. Their offsprings were admitted though... Happy hunting donadagohvi Kathleen P.S. I am still here just have tons of things going on in my life..Plus I am still taking Cherokee Language Courses with the Cherokee Nation....I totally enjoy them. On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:10 PM, Alli :) <iamcheroke@gmail.com> wrote: Well, that's the thing though......many who were rejected by the Dawes Commission for the Dawes or Guion Miller  Rolls were not necessarily rejected because they weren't Indians, there were that were rejected (as you said) not living in the Governments designated area's to be considered a "citizen" of that tribe. But in reality, they could very well could be.  For me personally......its still a 50/50 thing. There's a lot of documents that are pointing to the fact that we are, but there's still a lot of questionable areas that make one wonder. LOL DNA is definitely a helpful tool. Alli :) -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joyce Gaston Reece Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:08 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] land I'll be the first one to agree with you on that one, Alli.  As a matter of fact, the family does have dna that tells they do but that is nowhere near my area of expertise...if I have any.  Joy is the one to speak on that subject.  I have found that the majority of people who have applied do have some indian heritage...it just so happened that their branch didn't live on Indian land for many years and weren't re-accepted via the citizenship applications in the 1880's and 90's Joyce Gaston Reece =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message