Dan, If you can not gain access to these applications online, I will order the microfilm that they would be on & get the information for you the old fashion way :) And if you need copies I can send them to you. No problem & it'll give me an excuse to go to the FHC ;) Alli -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:59 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Joy King No, I had ask directly some time ago for this application ===> Cherokee Rolls: #25140 W J Matney, Publication # M685, Roll # 210, pg 13 Rejected W J Matney & 2 ch, reside Hallsville, McDowell Co, WV Sizemore Case Application 17 Jun 1907 William J is 23 yrs old, b Floyd Co, KY. Wife is 21 yrs old & is Cherokee. 2 ch: Rutha age 2, Opal age 1 His fa was Aron Matneyb 24 Sep 1849, mo Syrenna (Sizemore) Matney of Floyd Co, KY, she Cherokee Had bro Johny Matney age 21 & sis Ricy Matney age 10 b Georgia or NC.. ===> I wanted to see the whole file, some one claimed to have access to it, but never replied. Dan