I wonder if Nancy Rider could be Ryder? Some reason that name (nancy ryder) seems familiar to me. You & I are still having the same issues with Thompson lines….enough to drive a person batty LOL Congrat’s on the dna proof……some day I’ll do that. What test did you use? I don’t have my stuff memorized anymore so I’ll have to dig out the book later to post my stuff. I’m still stuck on my Thomas Thompson & Delphia……..I had a researcher/genealogist tell me she found her listed on a census as being Cherokee but I have no idea which census that was. Many think its Philadelphia Wilson, but the info doesn’t match that I have found. And there wasn’t much real proof, just speculation of the connection that people put together. You’ll have a break through eventually :o) From: Deborah Woolf [mailto:woolfpac@prodigy.net] Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 9:42 PM To: Alli :) <iamcheroke@gmail.com>; cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Virginiaâ?Ts Pamunkey Indians have won recognition from the federal government Hi Dan, I'm still around just swamped. Found out I have two proven lines to Pochohantas and yes I know many say that and aren't really. mine go through the RED BOLLING lines. DNA is also proving it on those Bollings. I also know it is not her real name but using it as it is the BEST KNOWN name, even if given by anglos and not nice meaning. My DNA shows me with more Mediterranean lines than I expected and Cacausus blood. I'm not sure if that is actually the native line or not. It's way more than I should be showing with DNA. I'm still at a lost on a few of my lines, particularly the THOMPSON lineage but have some DNA connections to the David THOMPSON and Nancy RIDER line. To update because it's been so long, that line was living near my THOMPSON female in 1850 Georgia. I always suspected it may be related because of naming patterns. I can not find any MALE as father of my female's children. I have tried tracking down that on death certificates and found some but not all her chldren's death certificates. So far no luck with the name, it's just UNKNOWN on that spot. This line also has a LEATHERWOOD connection we were told was Cherokee. Researching lead me to believe that the LEATHERWOODS did indeed marry into the Cherokee lines but lived as whites (mostly) although they spoke fluent Cherokee and worked at a trading store (one of the LEATHERWOODs). I do not know where they enter my line, but DNA also supports that. I think I was given the wrong generation and it was one further back. I'm looking for a THOMPSON who md. LEATHERWOOD probably abt 1800-1820's, possible slightly before. Fathered a son who married Elizabeth LONG she being born abt 1827 NC died aft 1880, probably in the tri state region of GA, NC, TN.... possible AL, or she died enroute to Okla Ind. Lands where her family went abt 1886. I feel sure there is something back in that tri state region to help me but can not locate anything so far that helps. For this reason I haven't posted in awhile. Debbie

Hello Debbie, I have an Elizabeth LONG born to George W LONG but no known dates or places. On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:34 PM, Alli :) via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I wonder if Nancy Rider could be Ryder? Some reason that name (nancy > ryder) seems familiar to me. > > > > You & I are still having the same issues with Thompson lines….enough to > drive a person batty LOL > > > > Congrat’s on the dna proof……some day I’ll do that. What test did you use? > > > > I don’t have my stuff memorized anymore so I’ll have to dig out the book > later to post my stuff. > > > > I’m still stuck on my Thomas Thompson & Delphia……..I had a > researcher/genealogist tell me she found her listed on a census as being > Cherokee but I have no idea which census that was. Many think its > Philadelphia Wilson, but the info doesn’t match that I have found. And > there wasn’t much real proof, just speculation of the connection that > people put together. > > > > You’ll have a break through eventually :o) > > > > From: Deborah Woolf [mailto:woolfpac@prodigy.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 9:42 PM > To: Alli :) <iamcheroke@gmail.com>; cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Virginiaâ?Ts Pamunkey Indians have won > recognition from the federal government > > > > Hi Dan, I'm still around just swamped. Found out I have two proven lines > to Pochohantas and yes I know many say that and aren't really. mine go > through the RED BOLLING lines. DNA is also proving it on those Bollings. > I also know it is not her real name but using it as it is the BEST KNOWN > name, even if given by anglos and not nice meaning. > > > > > > My DNA shows me with more Mediterranean lines than I expected and Cacausus > blood. I'm not sure if that is actually the native line or not. It's way > more than I should be showing with DNA. > > > > > > I'm still at a lost on a few of my lines, particularly the THOMPSON > lineage but have some DNA connections to the David THOMPSON and Nancy RIDER > line. To update because it's been so long, that line was living near my > THOMPSON female in 1850 Georgia. I always suspected it may be related > because of naming patterns. I can not find any MALE as father of my > female's children. I have tried tracking down that on death certificates > and found some but not all her chldren's death certificates. So far no luck > with the name, it's just UNKNOWN on that spot. > > > > > > This line also has a LEATHERWOOD connection we were told was Cherokee. > Researching lead me to believe that the LEATHERWOODS did indeed marry > into the Cherokee lines but lived as whites (mostly) although they spoke > fluent Cherokee and worked at a trading store (one of the LEATHERWOODs). I > do not know where they enter my line, but DNA also supports that. I think I > was given the wrong generation and it was one further back. > > > > > > I'm looking for a THOMPSON who md. LEATHERWOOD probably abt 1800-1820's, > possible slightly before. Fathered a son who married Elizabeth LONG she > being born abt 1827 NC died aft 1880, probably in the tri state region of > GA, NC, TN.... possible AL, or she died enroute to Okla Ind. Lands where > her family went abt 1886. > > > > > > > > I feel sure there is something back in that tri state region to help me > but can not locate anything so far that helps. > > > > > > > > For this reason I haven't posted in awhile. > > > > > > Debbie > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all"