Some people like Out of the Flame too. Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glee Krapf" <gleek@ptd.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > much of this book is on line. This book was well done for its time but there > are many mistakes in it and many consider it beyond reproach but Starr sure > did mess up my family line in it. Read it with this in mind. Check its info > against other records like the Daws and Miller rolls. ===============>>

My husband ordered "HISTORY OF THE CHEROKEE INDIANS" BY E. Starr for me sometime in April this year I believe from Amazon and it was delayed a few weeks, but the book binder states" Kraus" ( Kraus Reprint Co., Millwood, N.Y.) REPRINT. A page facing the PREFACE page states "Copyright 1922 by the Warden Co." "New Reprint Printing 1991". I think he paid $65.00 plus shipping and taxes. This book is 680 pages. This will be a new book for your shelf. Hope this helps someone. Bettye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glee Krapf" <gleek@ptd.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > This book is for anyone who want one. It has to following Cherokee families > in it. > Cordery, Ghugau or Nancy Ward, Otterlifter, Ridge-Watie, Ross, Saunders and > Ward. > I descemd out of Nancy and so have not really looked at the other lines. He > covers 4 generations. He probably does the same for the other lines. This is > to update the Starr book. For more about Nancy Ward's family you need his > other book on the Dexcendaths of Nancy Ward. I do not know if there are any > of them avaible. > Glee > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "izzie" <izzie@sstelco.com> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:17 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > > > Can this book be bought by others. Me for example? > > > > Thanks > > Donna > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >

The show "History Detectives" is on PBS. In my area it is on KTEH channel. MJ

This book is for anyone who want one. It has to following Cherokee families in it. Cordery, Ghugau or Nancy Ward, Otterlifter, Ridge-Watie, Ross, Saunders and Ward. I descemd out of Nancy and so have not really looked at the other lines. He covers 4 generations. He probably does the same for the other lines. This is to update the Starr book. For more about Nancy Ward's family you need his other book on the Dexcendaths of Nancy Ward. I do not know if there are any of them avaible. Glee ----- Original Message ----- From: "izzie" <izzie@sstelco.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > Can this book be bought by others. Me for example? > > Thanks > Donna > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >

I'm sure. http://www.cherokeeresearch.com/ Preston Can this book be bought by others. Me for example?

Sounds like an interesting program to watch, but there's no station listed. Is it TNT, History Channel, PBS ? Alli On 7/25/05, mrobertson@sftc.org <mrobertson@sftc.org> wrote: > > This show is coming up in the Bay Area on Aug 4 at 9:00pm > Talk about geneological search source material. I thought we all could > check it out. Wado, Mary Jean > History Detectives tackle these new cases in the fourth episode of the > 2005 > season. > > The Detectives: Gwen Wright, Elyse Luray > The Place: Austin, Texas > The Case: A Texan of Cherokee descent inherits a mysterious bible from her > father. Having grown up speaking only English, she is intrigued by what > appears to be Cherokee writing in the bible, and wants to learn more about > her own family's history. This native language was "invented" by a > Cherokee > Indian named Sequoia in the early 1800s in a desperate effort to win the > respect of the U.S. authorities for his people. While Sequoia succeeded in > establishing literacy rates far in excess of the encroaching white > settlers, > the Cherokee were ultimately forced to march on the infamous "Trail of > Tears" to Oklahoma. > History Detectives learns more about one of the most tragic events in U. > S. > history as they head to Oklahoma and Tennessee to tackle the genealogical > mystery behind our contributor's bible. > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > -- U.B.A.H. Indep.children's Educational Consultant www.ubah.com/D1525 <http://www.ubah.com/D1525> http://alli.cyberwize.com

Can this book be bought by others. Me for example? Thanks Donna

One of the links I posted did not go through due to the addition of www I think. Guess the old saying is true: If it ain't broke don't fix it. Try this one instead. http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/nativam.pdf Wa-do, J. --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

O'siyo Donna, Here is the order form for Cherokee Mixed-Bloods: Additions and Corrections to Family Genealogies of Dr. Emmet Starr at: http://www.cherokeeresearch.com/images/orderform.htm Sample of his genealogical work: (Some of my ancestors) http://www.cherokeeresearch.com/images/starrbookpages.pdf He can also provide pdf. scans of: Eastern Cherokee (Guion Miller) applications Dawes census cards (all Cherokee types including freedmen) Dawes applications (testimony accompanying census cards) Cherokee censuses from 1880 through 1896 Email: research@cherokeeresearch.com For his Nancy Ward ancestry: http://www.cherokeeresearch.com/ For the Oklahoma Historical Museum giftshop: http://www.powersource.com/heritage/shop.html Phone: 918-456-6007 or by FAX: 918-456-6165 Descendants of Nancy Ward by David Keith Hampton A workbook for further research $34.95 Cherokee Old Settlers 1896-1951 Payroll by David Keith Hampton $29.97 c 1993, 325 p. http://members.aol.com/lredtail/outlaws.html Starr, Emmet. Old Cherokee Families: Notes of Dr. Emmet Starr. Edited and Annotated by Jack D. Baker & David Keith Hampton. Oklahoma City, OK: Baker Publishing Co., 1988, 2 v. Indexed. LC 87-72512. Contents: v. 1. Letter Books, A-F -- v. 2. Letter Books G-L, Index to Letter Books -- v. 3. GRANT. David Keith Hampton is a resident of Broken Arrow, Oklahoma and known to many as the person who compiled the Descendants of Nancy Ward. In that book, Hampton began with the Emmet Starr notes and then sought out the descendants to bring it to the current generation. He has also reprinted the Old Settlers Rolls of 1851 and Old Settler Payment Roll of 1896, as well as a number of other references. Other good resources: http://www.thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/nativam.pdf http://www.win.org/library/services/lhgen/natamerican.html Additional good history resources: (I love Angie Debo!) Cotterill, R. S. The Southern Indians: The Story of the Civilized Tribes before Removal. Norman: The University of Oklahoma Press, 1954. Debo, Angie. The Rise and Fall of the Choctaw Republic. Norman: The University of Oklahoma Press, 1934. Debo, Angie. A History of the Indians of the United States. Norman: The University of Oklahoma Press, 1970. Foreman, Grant. Indian Removal. Norman: The University of Oklahoma Press, 1932. Foreman, Grant. The Five Civilized Tribes. Norman: The University of Oklahoma Press, 1934 Enjoy! ;-D J. PS I am not endorsing Mr. Hampton, nor do I receive kick-backs or other gratuities for referrals. I am simply furnishing public information. Good luck. izzie <izzie@sstelco.com> wrote: Can this book be bought by others. Me for example? Thanks Donna ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour

This show is coming up in the Bay Area on Aug 4 at 9:00pm Talk about geneological search source material. I thought we all could check it out. Wado, Mary Jean History Detectives tackle these new cases in the fourth episode of the 2005 season. The Detectives: Gwen Wright, Elyse Luray The Place: Austin, Texas The Case: A Texan of Cherokee descent inherits a mysterious bible from her father. Having grown up speaking only English, she is intrigued by what appears to be Cherokee writing in the bible, and wants to learn more about her own family's history. This native language was "invented" by a Cherokee Indian named Sequoia in the early 1800s in a desperate effort to win the respect of the U.S. authorities for his people. While Sequoia succeeded in establishing literacy rates far in excess of the encroaching white settlers, the Cherokee were ultimately forced to march on the infamous "Trail of Tears" to Oklahoma. History Detectives learns more about one of the most tragic events in U. S. history as they head to Oklahoma and Tennessee to tackle the genealogical mystery behind our contributor's bible.

Osiyo Patty, This is Brian Hampton's, a Nancy Ward's descendent from Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, most recent book hot off the presses. :) I sent him emails asking him about my family, the Ross-Mulkey-etc. line) and he assured me they are in this book. I will let you know when it arrives (it was supposed to be mailed last Monday). I already have Emmet Starr's 'History of the Cherokee Indians' if anyone needs a look-up, although personally I find his number system for generations oftentimes confusing (but then again, I hate math LOL so maybe there's a disconnect there). :O J. Tom and Patty <tomnpat@iland.net> wrote: Hi Jerri, Is this the first book he has out, or is his 2nd book out already? Thanks for the offer to do lookups! Patty Does anyone know what families will be in his 2nd book? Just to let you know, I am awaiting David Keith Hampton's latest book 'Cherokee Mixed Bloods'. When it arrives I will be happy to look up names whenever time allows. Jerri ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

Ali, This is a link to the Burk Family. They mention 2 Pearis men: "Dr. Pepper's sister married a Pearis and was mother of George Pearis and Richard Pearis, Cherokee Indian trader See Giles Defense - 1780 for more on George Pearis and the Burks". The website is http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~swva/The%20Burk%20Family%20History.htm Hope this is helpful :-) I know the spelling is off, but whose wasn't back then? Pearis and Cherokee Trader caught my eye. Let me know how it works out! Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: <CherokeeGene-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CherokeeGene-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 4:02 AM Subject: CherokeeGene-D Digest V05 #284

I think I missed the note :) I haven't been posting due to being fairly busy & always behind on messages. But its not totally quiet :) Alli Thompson (NC), Adams (TN), Phariss (VA).......my Cherokee connection is here :) > > In a message dated 7/23/2005 1:14:32 AM Central Daylight Time, wb@wvi.com > writes: > > > People > > just because this list gets a note once in a while dont mean every one > has > > to stop genealogy too ;-) > > Dan m > >

When you get your book would you mind looking up the following names for me. Bright and Parris, Self and Hill thank you susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom and Patty" <tomnpat@iland.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:01 PM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > Hi Jerri, > Is this the first book he has out, or is his 2nd book out already? > Thanks for the offer to do lookups! > Patty > Does anyone know what families will be in his 2nd book? > > Just to let you know, I am awaiting David Keith Hampton's latest book > 'Cherokee Mixed Bloods'. When it arrives I will be happy to look up names > whenever time allows. > > Jerri > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >

Hi Jerri, Is this the first book he has out, or is his 2nd book out already? Thanks for the offer to do lookups! Patty Does anyone know what families will be in his 2nd book? Just to let you know, I am awaiting David Keith Hampton's latest book 'Cherokee Mixed Bloods'. When it arrives I will be happy to look up names whenever time allows. Jerri

Jerri, thank you! How wonderful! Julie Purplefroggigger@aol.com

In a message dated 7/23/2005 1:14:32 AM Central Daylight Time, wb@wvi.com writes: > Ok no problem > People > just because this list gets a note once in a while dont mean every one has > to stop genealogy too ;-) > Dan m > I haven't stopped Chief . It just that being on vacation I get much chance to check in here. I am still reading the genealogy list and takeing some notes to respond to latter if I can get a chance. Grandma

Osiyo All, Just to let you know, I am awaiting David Keith Hampton's latest book 'Cherokee Mixed Bloods'. When it arrives I will be happy to look up names whenever time allows. Jerri In a message dated 7/23/2005 1:14:32 AM Central Daylight Time, wb@wvi.com writes: > People > just because this list gets a note once in a while dont mean every one has > to stop genealogy too ;-) > Dan m > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Ok no problem People just because this list gets a note once in a while dont mean every one has to stop genealogy too ;-) Dan m ----- Original Message ----- From: "Staya Udanvti Bob Butler" <cherokeebo@starband.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Hill & Holler Column > Sorry bout that! > Wont happen again. > > Adageyudi > Staya Udanvti > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dan M > To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Hill & Holler Column > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Staya Udanvti Bob Butler" <cherokeebo@starband.net> > =========>>> > Please note this = > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com

Sorry bout that! Wont happen again. Adageyudi Staya Udanvti ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan M To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Hill & Holler Column ----- Original Message ----- From: "Staya Udanvti Bob Butler" <cherokeebo@starband.net> =========>>> Please note this = > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com