Jerri, Would you please check the names MORGAN and FRANKLIN when you have a chance. Many thanks. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: "susan smathers" <susan56@tampabay.rr.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > Thank you so much for taking the time to look up the names for me, some of > the first names do run in my family. > again thank you > susan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jay earl" <ten8csi@yahoo.com> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 9:51 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > > > Osiyo Susan, > > > > There is a Ethelbert Britton Bright 1819-1920 and Samuel B. Bright. Also > > there is a Henry Lee Hill 1835-1890, Martha Lavinia Hill 1870-1929, and > > William J. Hill. There are many Parris', ___, Emeline, George W., H.G., > > Johnson, kate, Margaret, Mary, Moses, (another) Moses, Nannie and Pauline. > > There are no selfs. > > > > Hope this helps! > > J. > > > > susan smathers <susan56@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > When you get your book would you mind looking up the following names for > > me. > > Bright and Parris, Self and Hill > > thank you > > susan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom and Patty" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:01 PM > > Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > > > > >> Hi Jerri, > >> Is this the first book he has out, or is his 2nd book out already? > >> Thanks for the offer to do lookups! > >> Patty > >> Does anyone know what families will be in his 2nd book? > >> > >> Just to let you know, I am awaiting David Keith Hampton's latest book > >> 'Cherokee Mixed Bloods'. When it arrives I will be happy to look up names > >> whenever time allows. > >> > >> Jerri > >> > >> > >> ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > >> This list is for Genealogy related conversations > >> Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > >> Please Good manors and no flaming others > >> For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > >> CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> You can also find what you need search the archives > >> or to get off this list via web site below > >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > >> Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Mail for Mobile > > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com

O'siyo Patty, There sure are alot of Wilson's! Here goes...hope one or more turn out to be yours. Anna 1855-1929, Archibald M. 1815?-1871, Elisha, Elizabeth Adelaide 1829-1905, Elizabeth Ann 1834-1912, Elsie 1805-1884, Emily Walker 1836-1925, Frank ---d. 1941, George 1787?-1851, Gilbert Wesley 1833-1898, Granderson, Harvey, Issac Alexander 1848-1927, John, Lemuel, Mary Ann (circa 1846-c. 1872), Mary Priscilla Mollie 1870-1912, Samantha 1848-1866, Sarah Miriam Almira 1832-1853, Thomas, William 1843-1888 and (another) William 1811-1897. Blessings, J. Tom and Patty <tomnpat@iland.net> wrote: When you get time, would you please do a lookup for the surname Wilson? Thank you, Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:08 PM Subject: CherokeeGene-D Digest V05 #289 ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

When you get time, would you please do a lookup for the surname Wilson? Thank you, Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: <CherokeeGene-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CherokeeGene-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:08 PM Subject: CherokeeGene-D Digest V05 #289

The book 'Out of the Flame' was recommended to me by a CNO member and said there are a lot of truths in it. Sleeping Fawn

I have a vendor friend that sells many books. I can put you in touch with him if you wish. Sleeping Fawn

Thanks. I have the Nancy Ward book. Donna

It is always to have some idea of topics and a small amount of what to believe and not, sorta like UFO's even tho the people who write books, like Out of the flame, he lived with the Cherokee 40 years, is still views from another culture and the end result is not always the best, but it is nice to see some one documented something for the people. Before taking it all as fact , take it as reading until you know what could be facts. Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "jay earl" <ten8csi@yahoo.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Out of the Flame > Good advice, Joyce. I kind of did it backward. I never really relied on Family Tree's because they too, can be flawed. I started with looking up all the census I could get my hands on, finding the Dawes numbers and ordering their packets from NARA. Based on those and other info I had already dug up, I added to my docs with birth, marriage, CN re-admission, death certificates, military records etc. However, I am blessed by a family fairly easy to find things out about. Many others are not so lucky. Yes, books play a part of solving a puzzle but gathering substantiating evidence to uphold one's research is integral to really solving the puzzle. I, too, have found errors in books, but that only makes me want to write my own all the more. ;) > ====================>>

I listed some books here http://www.wvi.com/~wb/cherokeelinks.html Prentice Robinson is the direct one to get one, I think they were $35 He lives in Tulsa AZ Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bettye Woodhull" <betron1@sbcglobal.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:40 PM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Out of the Flame > Okay, Dan, is this book available? to purchase or to locate at libraries? Who is the author? I am slowly spending many dollars and collecting many books in my attempt to learn my family heritage so can you give me some "advice" or "warning" about the price range? We knew going in on the purchase of Emmett Starr's book, but held great hopes of finding a small piece of information in it about my ancestors. Our trips to photograph any "landsite" that is related to my family lines has been a side trip "on the way to somewhere" so we don't consider that as a growing expense - just a part of discovering America! I also have Cherokee connections on my paternal side that I hope to get started on soon, but I am trying to keep the two lines separated. Bettye > >

I have a Nancy (I think) Dyer that married a Phariss they were from Tn. Its believed that Nancy was supposedly Indian (Cherokee) & that she took the Dyer name from a Solider (Robert Dyer I think) that came to their farm. Don't have anything to verify or deny it was just given to me by another research. How they got it I don't know Alli :) On 7/25/05, Bettye Woodhull <betron1@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > although I did find some JAMES BROWN's > listed. Her name is (I have 3 choices for spelling!): LENA, LENNAH, > LEANNAH. She married JOHN A. DYER b: 1790 abt. 1816 in TN. Some family > researchers believe her father to be JAMES BROWN - this is a possiblity > since their first born child was a son who was named JAMES BROWN DYER. The > more I learn about my ancestors, the harder it is to fit in the > "little pieces". John A. Dyer fathered ten (10) children that grew to > adulthood and began families of their own.

Thank you so much for taking the time to look up the names for me, some of the first names do run in my family. again thank you susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "jay earl" <ten8csi@yahoo.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > Osiyo Susan, > > There is a Ethelbert Britton Bright 1819-1920 and Samuel B. Bright. Also > there is a Henry Lee Hill 1835-1890, Martha Lavinia Hill 1870-1929, and > William J. Hill. There are many Parris', ___, Emeline, George W., H.G., > Johnson, kate, Margaret, Mary, Moses, (another) Moses, Nannie and Pauline. > There are no selfs. > > Hope this helps! > J. > > susan smathers <susan56@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > When you get your book would you mind looking up the following names for > me. > Bright and Parris, Self and Hill > thank you > susan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom and Patty" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:01 PM > Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > >> Hi Jerri, >> Is this the first book he has out, or is his 2nd book out already? >> Thanks for the offer to do lookups! >> Patty >> Does anyone know what families will be in his 2nd book? >> >> Just to let you know, I am awaiting David Keith Hampton's latest book >> 'Cherokee Mixed Bloods'. When it arrives I will be happy to look up names >> whenever time allows. >> >> Jerri >> >> >> ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >> This list is for Genealogy related conversations >> Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >> Please Good manors and no flaming others >> For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit >> CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com >> You can also find what you need search the archives >> or to get off this list via web site below >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >> Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >> > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail for Mobile > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >

Betty If you want a word of advice you will want to stop looking for books and start looking for primary resources. Books tend to be like a snowball rolling downhill. Anyone who writes a book using everyone else's books as resources only perpetuates the mistakes in that book(s). If you are looking for books please make sure you look at those who's data is backed up with a bibliography that isn't another load of books. Dr. Stanley Hoig's book "The Cherokee's and Their Chiefs" Is one of the better ones but it still has a boo-boo or two in it. If you are looking for generations prior to the Removal you will just about HAVE to look into the primary resources. Bob Blankenship does a good job on the different Cherokee census records in his two books "Cherokee Roots". Look for books with data....not genealogies. Genealogies tend to have many errors...just as Dr. Starr's book does. The very reasonably priced Journal of Cherokee Studies available at www.cherokeemusuem.org is just one of those. At the National ARchives you will find the American State Papers. THose referring to th eCherokee are located at www.rootsweb.com/~tnpolk2 www.appalachainsummit.tripod.com is yet another wonderful resource for primary data. Check out Dan's website for more...and there are others at www.rootsweb.com/~tnmcmin2 behind LINKS Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: Bettye Woodhull To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 9:40 PM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Out of the Flame Okay, Dan, is this book available? to purchase or to locate at libraries? Who is the author? I am slowly spending many dollars and collecting many books in my attempt to learn my family heritage so can you give me some "advice" or "warning" about the price range? We knew going in on the purchase of Emmett Starr's book, but held great hopes of finding a small piece of information in it about my ancestors. Our trips to photograph any "landsite" that is related to my family lines has been a side trip "on the way to somewhere" so we don't consider that as a growing expense - just a part of discovering America! I also have Cherokee connections on my paternal side that I hope to get started on soon, but I am trying to keep the two lines separated. Bettye ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com

Osiyo Patty, Morgans: Amanda Patience 1837-1921, Bettie 1889-1921, Cherokee America 1830-1919, Ellen Zaphora 1860-1947, George Washington 1817-1862, Gideon 1778-1851, James (infant 1914), John and Mary Polly 1836-?. Franklins: Benjamin and Mary Jane. Hope this helps. J. Patty Hedge <pjhedge@mlec.net> wrote: Jerri, Would you please check the names MORGAN and FRANKLIN when you have a chance. Many thanks. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: "susan smathers" To: Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > Thank you so much for taking the time to look up the names for me, some of > the first names do run in my family. > again thank you > susan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jay earl" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 9:51 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > > > Osiyo Susan, > > > > There is a Ethelbert Britton Bright 1819-1920 and Samuel B. Bright. Also > > there is a Henry Lee Hill 1835-1890, Martha Lavinia Hill 1870-1929, and > > William J. Hill. There are many Parris', ___, Emeline, George W., H.G., > > Johnson, kate, Margaret, Mary, Moses, (another) Moses, Nannie and Pauline. > > There are no selfs. > > > > Hope this helps! > > J. > > > > susan smathers wrote: > > When you get your book would you mind looking up the following names for > > me. > > Bright and Parris, Self and Hill > > thank you > > susan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom and Patty" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:01 PM > > Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > > > > >> Hi Jerri, > >> Is this the first book he has out, or is his 2nd book out already? > >> Thanks for the offer to do lookups! > >> Patty > >> Does anyone know what families will be in his 2nd book? > >> > >> Just to let you know, I am awaiting David Keith Hampton's latest book > >> 'Cherokee Mixed Bloods'. When it arrives I will be happy to look up names > >> whenever time allows. > >> > >> Jerri > >> > >> > >> ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > >> This list is for Genealogy related conversations > >> Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > >> Please Good manors and no flaming others > >> For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > >> CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> You can also find what you need search the archives > >> or to get off this list via web site below > >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > >> Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Mail for Mobile > > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

Thanks, Jerri! ----- Original Message ----- From: "jay earl" <ten8csi@yahoo.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > Osiyo Bettye, > > According to the bibliography of Hampton's 'Cherokee Mixed Bloods' there are no Dyers or Fletchers in it. There is a James Brown on pg. 429, Robert Sanders and ____. Their children were Ellis Sanders b. c. 1831 m. Martha Jane Brown, daughter of James Brown and Rachel McIntosh, c. 1855, divorced and then m. Cynthia Frye, daughter of Edward Frye and Nancy Youngguppy. > > Bettye Woodhull <betron1@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Thanks for that warning of errors! I had hoped to possibly find a > family name for my maternal ggg grandmother born ca 1795/99 who is > supposedly 1/2 Cherokee, but I found nothing and I was permitted to view > all the Roll books at the 5 Civilized Tribes Museum in Muskogee, OK in > April - again, I found nothing although I did find some JAMES BROWN's > listed. Her name is (I have 3 choices for spelling!): LENA, LENNAH, > LEANNAH. She married JOHN A. DYER b: 1790 abt. 1816 in TN. Some family > researchers believe her father to be JAMES BROWN - this is a possiblity > since their first born child was a son who was named JAMES BROWN DYER. This > family moved south into what they thought was Marion County Alabama and > their land purchases were eventually discovered to be in Itawamba County > Mississippi when "Mississippi Territory" gained statehood in 1836. I > visited this homesite in Oct. 2002 to photograph that area and the Dyer > Cemetery located a short distance from where the homestead had stood. It is > so heavily wooded a 156 years after John's death in 1846 that one wonders > where the farming land was located!, but what a view they had. . .. > The more I learn about my ancestors, the harder it is to fit in the > "little pieces". John A. Dyer fathered ten (10) children that grew to > adulthood and began families of their own. My gg grandfather's children > were left without a father when he was killed in the civil war, and my g. > grandmother (3 when her daddy was killed) grew up believing that she was > "Black Dutch" - more so from her mother's grandfather as I read her side of > this ancestry. He is identified as a little black dutchman, named Fletcher > (his surname) with no mention of having any Indian blood. Recordings of > this family I am collecting leads me to believe that the grandchildren of > JOHN A. DYER and LENA, LENNAH or LEANNAH ?? were the generation that chose > to hide their Indian blood and chose to identify themselves as white. > Bettye > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glee Krapf" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:32 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > > > much of this book is on line. This book was well done for its time but > there > > are many mistakes in it and many consider it beyond reproach but Starr > sure > > did mess up my family line in it. Read it with this in mind. Check its > info > > against other records like the Daws and Miller rolls. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bettye Woodhull" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:40 PM > > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > > > > > > My husband ordered "HISTORY OF THE CHEROKEE INDIANS" BY E. Starr for > me > > > sometime in April this year I believe from Amazon and it was delayed a > few > > > weeks, but the book binder states" Kraus" ( Kraus Reprint Co., Millwood, > > > N.Y.) REPRINT. A page facing the PREFACE page states "Copyright 1922 by > > > the > > > Warden Co." "New Reprint Printing 1991". > > > I think he paid $65.00 plus shipping and taxes. This book is 680 > > > pages. > > > This will be a new book for your shelf. > > > Hope this helps someone. Bettye > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Glee Krapf" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:00 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > > > > > > > >> This book is for anyone who want one. It has to following Cherokee > > > families > > >> in it. > > >> Cordery, Ghugau or Nancy Ward, Otterlifter, Ridge-Watie, Ross, Saunders > > > and > > >> Ward. > > >> I descemd out of Nancy and so have not really looked at the other > lines. > > > He > > >> covers 4 generations. He probably does the same for the other lines. > This > > > is > > >> to update the Starr book. For more about Nancy Ward's family you need > his > > >> other book on the Dexcendaths of Nancy Ward. I do not know if there are > > > any > > >> of them avaible. > > >> Glee > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "izzie" > > >> To: > > >> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:17 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > >> > > >> > > >> > Can this book be bought by others. Me for example? > > >> > > > >> > Thanks > > >> > Donna > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > >> > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > >> > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > >> > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > >> > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please > > >> > visit > > >> > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > >> > You can also find what you need search the archives > > >> > or to get off this list via web site below > > >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > >> > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > >> This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > >> Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > >> Please Good manors and no flaming others > > >> For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please > visit > > >> CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > >> You can also find what you need search the archives > > >> or to get off this list via web site below > > >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > >> Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > > or to get off this list via web site below > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Okay, Dan, is this book available? to purchase or to locate at libraries? Who is the author? I am slowly spending many dollars and collecting many books in my attempt to learn my family heritage so can you give me some "advice" or "warning" about the price range? We knew going in on the purchase of Emmett Starr's book, but held great hopes of finding a small piece of information in it about my ancestors. Our trips to photograph any "landsite" that is related to my family lines has been a side trip "on the way to somewhere" so we don't consider that as a growing expense - just a part of discovering America! I also have Cherokee connections on my paternal side that I hope to get started on soon, but I am trying to keep the two lines separated. Bettye

Good advice, Joyce. I kind of did it backward. I never really relied on Family Tree's because they too, can be flawed. I started with looking up all the census I could get my hands on, finding the Dawes numbers and ordering their packets from NARA. Based on those and other info I had already dug up, I added to my docs with birth, marriage, CN re-admission, death certificates, military records etc. However, I am blessed by a family fairly easy to find things out about. Many others are not so lucky. Yes, books play a part of solving a puzzle but gathering substantiating evidence to uphold one's research is integral to really solving the puzzle. I, too, have found errors in books, but that only makes me want to write my own all the more. ;) "Joyce G. Reece" <jgreece@earthlink.net> wrote:Betty If you want a word of advice you will want to stop looking for books and start looking for primary resources. Books tend to be like a snowball rolling downhill. Anyone who writes a book using everyone else's books as resources only perpetuates the mistakes in that book(s). If you are looking for books please make sure you look at those who's data is backed up with a bibliography that isn't another load of books. Dr. Stanley Hoig's book "The Cherokee's and Their Chiefs" Is one of the better ones but it still has a boo-boo or two in it. If you are looking for generations prior to the Removal you will just about HAVE to look into the primary resources. Bob Blankenship does a good job on the different Cherokee census records in his two books "Cherokee Roots". Look for books with data....not genealogies. Genealogies tend to have many errors...just as Dr. Starr's book does. The very reasonably priced Journal of Cherokee Studies available at www.cherokeemusuem.org is just one of those. At the National ARchives you will find the American State Papers. THose referring to th eCherokee are located at www.rootsweb.com/~tnpolk2 www.appalachainsummit.tripod.com is yet another wonderful resource for primary data. Check out Dan's website for more...and there are others at www.rootsweb.com/~tnmcmin2 behind LINKS Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: Bettye Woodhull To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 9:40 PM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Out of the Flame Okay, Dan, is this book available? to purchase or to locate at libraries? Who is the author? I am slowly spending many dollars and collecting many books in my attempt to learn my family heritage so can you give me some "advice" or "warning" about the price range? We knew going in on the purchase of Emmett Starr's book, but held great hopes of finding a small piece of information in it about my ancestors. Our trips to photograph any "landsite" that is related to my family lines has been a side trip "on the way to somewhere" so we don't consider that as a growing expense - just a part of discovering America! I also have Cherokee connections on my paternal side that I hope to get started on soon, but I am trying to keep the two lines separated. Bettye ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

Thanks for that warning of errors! I had hoped to possibly find a family name for my maternal ggg grandmother born ca 1795/99 who is supposedly 1/2 Cherokee, but I found nothing and I was permitted to view all the Roll books at the 5 Civilized Tribes Museum in Muskogee, OK in April - again, I found nothing although I did find some JAMES BROWN's listed. Her name is (I have 3 choices for spelling!): LENA, LENNAH, LEANNAH. She married JOHN A. DYER b: 1790 abt. 1816 in TN. Some family researchers believe her father to be JAMES BROWN - this is a possiblity since their first born child was a son who was named JAMES BROWN DYER. This family moved south into what they thought was Marion County Alabama and their land purchases were eventually discovered to be in Itawamba County Mississippi when "Mississippi Territory" gained statehood in 1836. I visited this homesite in Oct. 2002 to photograph that area and the Dyer Cemetery located a short distance from where the homestead had stood. It is so heavily wooded a 156 years after John's death in 1846 that one wonders where the farming land was located!, but what a view they had. . .. The more I learn about my ancestors, the harder it is to fit in the "little pieces". John A. Dyer fathered ten (10) children that grew to adulthood and began families of their own. My gg grandfather's children were left without a father when he was killed in the civil war, and my g. grandmother (3 when her daddy was killed) grew up believing that she was "Black Dutch" - more so from her mother's grandfather as I read her side of this ancestry. He is identified as a little black dutchman, named Fletcher (his surname) with no mention of having any Indian blood. Recordings of this family I am collecting leads me to believe that the grandchildren of JOHN A. DYER and LENA, LENNAH or LEANNAH ?? were the generation that chose to hide their Indian blood and chose to identify themselves as white. Bettye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glee Krapf" <gleek@ptd.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > much of this book is on line. This book was well done for its time but there > are many mistakes in it and many consider it beyond reproach but Starr sure > did mess up my family line in it. Read it with this in mind. Check its info > against other records like the Daws and Miller rolls. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bettye Woodhull" <betron1@sbcglobal.net> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:40 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > > > My husband ordered "HISTORY OF THE CHEROKEE INDIANS" BY E. Starr for me > > sometime in April this year I believe from Amazon and it was delayed a few > > weeks, but the book binder states" Kraus" ( Kraus Reprint Co., Millwood, > > N.Y.) REPRINT. A page facing the PREFACE page states "Copyright 1922 by > > the > > Warden Co." "New Reprint Printing 1991". > > I think he paid $65.00 plus shipping and taxes. This book is 680 > > pages. > > This will be a new book for your shelf. > > Hope this helps someone. Bettye > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Glee Krapf" <gleek@ptd.net> > > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > > > > >> This book is for anyone who want one. It has to following Cherokee > > families > >> in it. > >> Cordery, Ghugau or Nancy Ward, Otterlifter, Ridge-Watie, Ross, Saunders > > and > >> Ward. > >> I descemd out of Nancy and so have not really looked at the other lines. > > He > >> covers 4 generations. He probably does the same for the other lines. This > > is > >> to update the Starr book. For more about Nancy Ward's family you need his > >> other book on the Dexcendaths of Nancy Ward. I do not know if there are > > any > >> of them avaible. > >> Glee > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "izzie" <izzie@sstelco.com> > >> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:17 PM > >> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > >> > >> > >> > Can this book be bought by others. Me for example? > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > Donna > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > >> > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > >> > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > >> > Please Good manors and no flaming others > >> > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please > >> > visit > >> > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> > You can also find what you need search the archives > >> > or to get off this list via web site below > >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > >> > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > >> This list is for Genealogy related conversations > >> Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > >> Please Good manors and no flaming others > >> For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > >> CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> You can also find what you need search the archives > >> or to get off this list via web site below > >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > >> Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Osiyo Susan, There is a Ethelbert Britton Bright 1819-1920 and Samuel B. Bright. Also there is a Henry Lee Hill 1835-1890, Martha Lavinia Hill 1870-1929, and William J. Hill. There are many Parris', ___, Emeline, George W., H.G., Johnson, kate, Margaret, Mary, Moses, (another) Moses, Nannie and Pauline. There are no selfs. Hope this helps! J. susan smathers <susan56@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: When you get your book would you mind looking up the following names for me. Bright and Parris, Self and Hill thank you susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom and Patty" To: Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:01 PM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > Hi Jerri, > Is this the first book he has out, or is his 2nd book out already? > Thanks for the offer to do lookups! > Patty > Does anyone know what families will be in his 2nd book? > > Just to let you know, I am awaiting David Keith Hampton's latest book > 'Cherokee Mixed Bloods'. When it arrives I will be happy to look up names > whenever time allows. > > Jerri > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.

Osiyo Bettye, According to the bibliography of Hampton's 'Cherokee Mixed Bloods' there are no Dyers or Fletchers in it. There is a James Brown on pg. 429, Robert Sanders and ____. Their children were Ellis Sanders b. c. 1831 m. Martha Jane Brown, daughter of James Brown and Rachel McIntosh, c. 1855, divorced and then m. Cynthia Frye, daughter of Edward Frye and Nancy Youngguppy. Bettye Woodhull <betron1@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Thanks for that warning of errors! I had hoped to possibly find a family name for my maternal ggg grandmother born ca 1795/99 who is supposedly 1/2 Cherokee, but I found nothing and I was permitted to view all the Roll books at the 5 Civilized Tribes Museum in Muskogee, OK in April - again, I found nothing although I did find some JAMES BROWN's listed. Her name is (I have 3 choices for spelling!): LENA, LENNAH, LEANNAH. She married JOHN A. DYER b: 1790 abt. 1816 in TN. Some family researchers believe her father to be JAMES BROWN - this is a possiblity since their first born child was a son who was named JAMES BROWN DYER. This family moved south into what they thought was Marion County Alabama and their land purchases were eventually discovered to be in Itawamba County Mississippi when "Mississippi Territory" gained statehood in 1836. I visited this homesite in Oct. 2002 to photograph that area and the Dyer Cemetery located a short distance from where the homestead had stood. It is so heavily wooded a 156 years after John's death in 1846 that one wonders where the farming land was located!, but what a view they had. . .. The more I learn about my ancestors, the harder it is to fit in the "little pieces". John A. Dyer fathered ten (10) children that grew to adulthood and began families of their own. My gg grandfather's children were left without a father when he was killed in the civil war, and my g. grandmother (3 when her daddy was killed) grew up believing that she was "Black Dutch" - more so from her mother's grandfather as I read her side of this ancestry. He is identified as a little black dutchman, named Fletcher (his surname) with no mention of having any Indian blood. Recordings of this family I am collecting leads me to believe that the grandchildren of JOHN A. DYER and LENA, LENNAH or LEANNAH ?? were the generation that chose to hide their Indian blood and chose to identify themselves as white. Bettye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glee Krapf" To: Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > much of this book is on line. This book was well done for its time but there > are many mistakes in it and many consider it beyond reproach but Starr sure > did mess up my family line in it. Read it with this in mind. Check its info > against other records like the Daws and Miller rolls. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bettye Woodhull" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:40 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > > > My husband ordered "HISTORY OF THE CHEROKEE INDIANS" BY E. Starr for me > > sometime in April this year I believe from Amazon and it was delayed a few > > weeks, but the book binder states" Kraus" ( Kraus Reprint Co., Millwood, > > N.Y.) REPRINT. A page facing the PREFACE page states "Copyright 1922 by > > the > > Warden Co." "New Reprint Printing 1991". > > I think he paid $65.00 plus shipping and taxes. This book is 680 > > pages. > > This will be a new book for your shelf. > > Hope this helps someone. Bettye > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Glee Krapf" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > > > > >> This book is for anyone who want one. It has to following Cherokee > > families > >> in it. > >> Cordery, Ghugau or Nancy Ward, Otterlifter, Ridge-Watie, Ross, Saunders > > and > >> Ward. > >> I descemd out of Nancy and so have not really looked at the other lines. > > He > >> covers 4 generations. He probably does the same for the other lines. This > > is > >> to update the Starr book. For more about Nancy Ward's family you need his > >> other book on the Dexcendaths of Nancy Ward. I do not know if there are > > any > >> of them avaible. > >> Glee > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "izzie" > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:17 PM > >> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > >> > >> > >> > Can this book be bought by others. Me for example? > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > Donna > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > >> > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > >> > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > >> > Please Good manors and no flaming others > >> > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please > >> > visit > >> > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> > You can also find what you need search the archives > >> > or to get off this list via web site below > >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > >> > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > >> This list is for Genealogy related conversations > >> Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > >> Please Good manors and no flaming others > >> For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > >> CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> You can also find what you need search the archives > >> or to get off this list via web site below > >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > >> Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

much of this book is on line. This book was well done for its time but there are many mistakes in it and many consider it beyond reproach but Starr sure did mess up my family line in it. Read it with this in mind. Check its info against other records like the Daws and Miller rolls. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bettye Woodhull" <betron1@sbcglobal.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > My husband ordered "HISTORY OF THE CHEROKEE INDIANS" BY E. Starr for me > sometime in April this year I believe from Amazon and it was delayed a few > weeks, but the book binder states" Kraus" ( Kraus Reprint Co., Millwood, > N.Y.) REPRINT. A page facing the PREFACE page states "Copyright 1922 by > the > Warden Co." "New Reprint Printing 1991". > I think he paid $65.00 plus shipping and taxes. This book is 680 > pages. > This will be a new book for your shelf. > Hope this helps someone. Bettye > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glee Krapf" <gleek@ptd.net> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book > > >> This book is for anyone who want one. It has to following Cherokee > families >> in it. >> Cordery, Ghugau or Nancy Ward, Otterlifter, Ridge-Watie, Ross, Saunders > and >> Ward. >> I descemd out of Nancy and so have not really looked at the other lines. > He >> covers 4 generations. He probably does the same for the other lines. This > is >> to update the Starr book. For more about Nancy Ward's family you need his >> other book on the Dexcendaths of Nancy Ward. I do not know if there are > any >> of them avaible. >> Glee >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "izzie" <izzie@sstelco.com> >> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] David Keith Hampton's latest book >> >> >> > Can this book be bought by others. Me for example? >> > >> > Thanks >> > Donna >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >> > This list is for Genealogy related conversations >> > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >> > Please Good manors and no flaming others >> > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please >> > visit >> > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com >> > You can also find what you need search the archives >> > or to get off this list via web site below >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >> > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >> This list is for Genealogy related conversations >> Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >> Please Good manors and no flaming others >> For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit >> CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com >> You can also find what you need search the archives >> or to get off this list via web site below >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >> Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Woo hoo! The BOOK is here! :) Families listed are Starr, Cordery, Ghigau (Nancy Ward), Otterlifter, Ridge-Watie, Ross-McDonald-Shorey, Osage Ross, Sanders and Ward (Catherine McDaniel Ward). There aren't many pictures but there are some interesting photo's of Starr's original letters and writing. Hampton said he will list Grant and Downing families in his later books and last addition. He predicts he will add at least four volumes to his collection. Dan M <wb@wvi.com> wrote: Some people like Out of the Flame too. Dan M --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page