Hey Julie, Did you read the MO cesus I sent you yet? Is this your relative? --- Purplefroggigger@aol.com wrote: > Jay, > > > What a question. We spell it "Usually" Watkins. > Even on our "Family page" > There are a few of us on that site and mostly it is > spelled like Watkins. > However, if your speaking to us you might hear a "d" > instead. But what is odd is The > person "looking" at the monument spelled it with a > "d" Wadkins. We are all > speaking about the Same person. The photo of the > tombstone is not clear--for me > to read off of the computer. IF one of the members > of the family doesn't > reach me and explain the difference it --I plan to > go to go to the Ark region > anyway at the end of this week and I will confirm > the difference with my closer > family. And get a better photo-that I can read. > > A lot of the family I am "lucky" enough to still > speak with are in the upper > age brackets. > I am sorry for not catching that mistake first. > > Julie > Purplefroggigger@aol.com > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the > archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
I am trying to put in the tree only information with a source, because I would like to beable to at least say where I got the info ant min. I have several record books that are of help when sorting my tree I have "the History of the Cherokee Nation" by Emmett Starr and I have the "Cherokee Emigration Rolls 1817-1835 and a lady was so very sweet to send me a copy of "Spring Place" I also have several city and cemetery books from Oklahoma and a few Chronicles of Oklahoma not to mention Dora Wards sort of story of her life records are also good like census altho they can be very wrong also. Some people prefer to make them up, I feel sorry for them if you make up ansesters then you are a lie and nothing about you can be true. very sad. Some of my information my not be right but its not on purpose, that is for sure. Errors and typos and such will happen, omisions sometimes on purpose but I am trying to do the best I can. have a couple of family memebers living that want more online than I will alow but it comes do to its my site, I think? Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net >From: jay earl <ten8csi@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com >To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Mulkey, Benge, research, websites and >identity theft precautions >Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:46:37 -0700 (PDT) > >Osiyo Karen, > >Does your family still have a clan? If not, what was the last one? A clan >could not marry within itself and it always passed down through the >matrileaneal lines, never the males. Therefore, uncles traditionally taught >the way of the Cherokee to their nephews. A nice segue on your site might >be through clan affiliations. Be careful of the FTM, some genealogies are >somewhat flawed, due to the fact some people take the lazy way of solving >their genealogy, instead of looking for the correlating details such as >bonifide records. > >Another shortcut is to use a well-researched genealogist's book about your >line, with footnotes you can research yourself. Digging in public records >is part of the joy of putting the puzzle pieces together. When you really >get into the records, you will laugh at how vague some of the FTM's really >are, and how common mispellings, differences in DOB's and even, race, >occur. I recommend Barbara Benge, who has done much research on the Benge >line. Also Jeanne Sharp for the Georgia Mulkeys and Philip Hunt for the >'Mulkeys in America' and Tyner's 'Our People'. Starr is another great for >your collection, but David Keith Hampton's recent revision is very good >too. > >After you verify your resources, photo's are always a treasured addition, >since often photographs are harder to trace than records. > >Genealogy resources are easy to find since the advent of the internet, but >depending on how serious a researcher you are, the internet is never the >end all when it comes to substantiating your findings. That's one of the >reasons the Cherokee Nation is swamped and over a year behind when it comes >to processing applications, which used to take less than a month up until >just a few years ago. > >Unfortunately, I know very little about computer wizardry, but there are >many fine beginner's guides and classes out there (try your local community >college) to help you expand your site by teaching you the tools to use. > >If you ever do post your genealogy online, remember to never post anyone >living, or the recently deceased within the last generation or two, since >unfortuanately, we live in an age of identity theft and putting your >family's mother's maiden name out there isn't a good idea since too many >companies still use this antiquated question as supposed security. We have >been the victims of ID theft some years ago (not from genealogy) and I >assure you, it is a major hassle! > >Good luck and keep up the good work! :) > >Karen Prater <texas_celtic@hotmail.com> wrote: >Dear Jay >I am working on putting up my family tree, (havent figured out how yet) to >go with my beaded crafts. > >I have family tree maker 11 but still lack the wisdom to put the >information >on my site. > >thank you for looking at my site! and for letting me know what you thought. > > >Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli > >web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net > > > > >From: jay earl > >Reply-To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > >To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Benge > >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Probably should have mentioned Andrew Ross was the brother of my > >GGG-Grandmother, Maria Ross and Chief John Ross (with other siblings), > >children of Daniel ROSS and Mary "Mollie" McDONALD. > > > >PS Karen: Loved your website! > > > >jay earl wrote: > >Benge history: > > > >http://www.users.mis.net/~chesnut/pages/bobbenge.htm > > > >jay earl wrote:Osiyo Karen, > > > >Benge is in my Ross line through marriage too. Andrew Ross, b. 19 Dec >1798, > >at Chickamaugee, near Lookout Mountain, Cherokee Nation East, now > >Chattanooga TN, second marriage was to Susan LOWERY and Lucy Benge, 24 >June > >1819, died 29 Nov 1840 at Fairfield, Flint District, Cherokee Nation IT >now > >Stilwell, Adair, OK at age 41. Buried at fairfield Mission Cemetary, > >Stilwell, Adair, OK. He was the proposer and one of the signers of the > >Treaty of 29 Dec 1835. They had 11 children. > > > >Also, Mary NAVE married Anderson Pierce Lowery, son of George Lowery and > >Lucy BENGE. > > > >As you know, Benge is also a familiar historical name pertaining to "The > >Bench". > > > >Karen Prater wrote: > >thank you for your answer Jay Earl > > > > > >George Charles Jr Lowery 1770 to October 20, 1852 Tahlequah Districk, > >Oklahoma married > >Lucy Benge. I come thru there daughter Lydia Lowry who married Milo Hoyt > >then thru Esther Susan Hoyt who married James Jr Ward and then Henry J > >Ward. any help you could give me would be great. I do have some Ross > >information in my tree program. would love to trade information or just > >have > >a genealogy friend intrested in same name group. > > > >Surnames, Ward, Hoyt, Lowry and many others > > > > > >Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli > > > >web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net > > > > > > > > >From: jay earl > > >Reply-To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Re: David Keith Hampton's latest > >book > > >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:24:21 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >Hi Karen, > > > > > >There are three George Lowery's in the book. What was the one you are > > >looking for approximate birth and death year? The name Lowery runs in >my > > >Ross line through marriage. > > > > > >There is a Milo Hoyt listed on pages 121, 258 and 503. Lordy, are those > > >historical names or what? > > > > > >Pg 121: Through the Ghigau line: Mary Ann WATIE was born circa 1814 at > > >Cherokee Nation East. She died May 1844 probably at Cherokee Nation IT, > >now > > >OK. Children of John Walker CANDY and Mary Ann Watie: > > > > > >i. Harriette Boudinot Candy (m. Hugh Montgomery MCPHERSON, son of John > > >McPherson and Susan MCCOY) > > > > > >ii. Susan Candy (m. Henry Lee HILL) > > > > > >iii. Elizabeth CANDY; born 30 January 1838 probablyat Cherokee Nation, > >IT, > > >now OK, married Hinman Booth HOYT, son of Milo Hoyt and Lydia LOWERY, >c. > > >1860, d. 18 Feb 1862 at age 24. Eastern Cherokee Application #2858. > > > > > >Hinman Booth HOYT was born on 4 Jan 1828 at Cherokee Nation East. He >died > > >18 Jan 1963. > > > > > >iv. Sarah Jane Candy 1839-1846 > > > > > >I did not list details to any children except iii, but they are noted >in > > >the book. > > > > > >Cherokee Blessings, > > >Jerri > > > > > >Karen Prater wrote: > > >If it is not to much trouble and you have the time > > >would you see if there is a Milo Hoyt or George Lowry listed in the >book > > > > > > > > > > > >Thank you very much > > > > > >Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli > > > > > >web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: jay earl > > > >Reply-To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > > > >To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Re: David Keith Hampton's latest > > >book > > > >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:27:03 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > >No Geurin's listed. There are three Musgrove's: Elizabeth Henrietta, > > > >Francis Marion and William ALexander. > > > > > > > >Purplefroggigger@aol.com wrote:I have a question for the person doing > >the > > > >look-ups? > > > >Did you happen to see any Geurin? first name Archibald > > > >or any Musgrove? > > > > > > > >I have a Rev.Musgrove who married a Sallie Fowler they had at least >two > > > >children > > > >1-born in 1830 Sarah Sallie Selemia Musgrove > > > >2- born in 1832 Martha Marie Musgrove (I was told that (She was a > >"Wolfe > > > >"descendant) > > > > > > > >I do not know much about this. > > > > > > > >Thank you for Sharing...I am not sure who to ask. > > > >Purplefroggigger@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > > >This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > > >Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > > >Please Good manors and no flaming others > > > >For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please > >visit > > > >CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > >You can also find what you need search the archives > > > >or to get off this list via web site below > > > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > > >Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > > >This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > > >Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > > >Please Good manors and no flaming others > > > >For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please > >visit > > > >CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > > >or to get off this list via web site below > > > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > > >Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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I have a few Moses, In my tree, if you want to compare them Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net >From: jay earl <ten8csi@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com >To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] McKendry WATKINS >Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:50:49 -0700 (PDT) > >Is it Wadkins or Watkins? Moses or Mosses? > >--- jay earl <ten8csi@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=8058&path=Missouri.Cape+Girardeau.Not+Stated.65&rc=&zp=50 > > > > --- Purplefroggigger@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > {on tombstone} *she went by Sarah or Sally > > Tabitha > > > Wadkins. > > > > > > Blocker-Gray, Sarah Tabitha Wadkins late 1700's > > > > > 1882 > > > Daughter of leven Wadkins and his Cherokee wife > > > Hannah Davis. > > > Lived on the Missouri frontier in the early 1800's > > > Visited Hot Springs, Ark. in 1815. Married George > > > Blocker, who ran a trading > > > post > > > near Cape Giruardo, Mo. A second marriage to > > Mosses > > > Gray. The mother of four > > > daughters and six sons, who served in the Civil > > War. > > > > > > I mention Sarah Wadkins. because of the little > > girl > > > born in (Mo). > > > > > > (I am always looking for more information on my > > > Cherokee family) > > > Purplefroggigger@aol.com > > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > > Your supporting website > > > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or > > Language > > > lessons Please visit > > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > You can also find what you need search the > > > archives > > > or to get off this list via web site below > > > > > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website > > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > > lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the > > archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________ >Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > >==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >This list is for Genealogy related conversations >Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >Please Good manors and no flaming others >For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit >CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives >or to get off this list via web site below >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
my grandmother was no princess, that she ever clamed, she clamed she was a child of the earth and sought wisdom from all things, she told us tales of animals and people erons gone, and of walking a cold forced trail of pain and tears, stories told to her by her mother and I am sure people older than that. A Princess from the tales I have heard, no they were far from that. Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net >From: jay earl <ten8csi@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com >To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Was your Grandmother a Cherokee Princess? >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:19:11 -0700 (PDT) > >http://www.cherokeeshouston.org/so_your_grandmother_was_a_cherok.htm > > > > > > >==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >This list is for Genealogy related conversations >Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >Please Good manors and no flaming others >For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit >CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com >You can also find what you need search the archives >or to get off this list via web site below >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > >--------------------------------- >Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > >==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >This list is for Genealogy related conversations >Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >Please Good manors and no flaming others >For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit >CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com >You can also find what you need search the archives >or to get off this list via web site below >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > >--------------------------------- >Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > >==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >This list is for Genealogy related conversations >Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >Please Good manors and no flaming others >For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit >CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com >You can also find what you need search the archives >or to get off this list via web site below >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > >--------------------------------- >Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > >==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >This list is for Genealogy related conversations >Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >Please Good manors and no flaming others >For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit >CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com >You can also find what you need search the archives >or to get off this list via web site below >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > >--------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > >==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >This list is for Genealogy related conversations >Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >Please Good manors and no flaming others >For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit >CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives >or to get off this list via web site below >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
651. SUSAN7 LOWREY (LUCY6 BENGE, WURTEH5 WATTS, SISTEROF4 DOUBLEHEAD, GREAT3 EAGLE, MOYTOY2, A-MA-DO-YA1) was born February 25, 1793 in Tennessee, and died December 30, 1872. She married ANDREW TLO-S-TA-MA ROSS June 24, 1819, son of DANIEL ROSS and MARY MCDONALD. He was born December 19, 1798, and died November 10, 1844. Notes for SUSAN LOWREY: The Oolootsa 1-1-1-2-2-x family group is mislabled Oolootsa 1-1-1-2-1-x and immediately follows the true Oolootsa 1-1-1-2-1-x family group. More About SUSAN LOWREY: 1851 Drennan roll: Saline, 445 as Susan Ross Clan: Ani'-Wâ'di = Red Paint (Wurteh) Residence: 1817, Will's Valley, AL Starr's Notes: D100; b:5/1799 d:12/30/1872 More About ANDREW TLO-S-TA-MA ROSS: 1817-19 Reservations: July 1817, # 21, 1 in family 1835 Census roll: Jackson Co, AL 1836 Valuations: Cherokee Co, AL, #37 claimants; William Grimmett, William Lasley, widow Watts, Mrs Brown & Major Ridge; also Andrew Ross & Joseph Crutchfield Blood: 1/8 Cherokee Clan: Ani'-Tsi'skwa = Bird Clan (Gi-gu-i) Occupation: 1828, Judge of Cherokee Supreme Court Residence: 1817, Wills Valley, AL Signer: December 29, 1835, Treaty Starr's Notes: D100; b:12/19/1798 d:11/1844 m'd:6/24/1819 Susan Lowry Children of SUSAN LOWREY and ANDREW ROSS are: 1913. i. OLIVER PERRY8 ROSS, b. 1820; d. April 06, 1900. 1914. ii. DANIEL H ROSS, b. October 28, 1822, CNE [AL]; d. 1862. 1915. iii. ANDREW J ROSS, b. Abt. 1824; d. Abt. 1863. 1916. iv. SAMUEL HOUSTON ROSS, b. Abt. 1826; d. August 1860. 1917. v. WILLIAM COODY ROSS, b. October 29, 1829; d. 1864. 1918. vi. JOSEPH MILLER ROSS, b. October 08, 1831, Will's Valley; d. September 04, 1900. 1919. vii. JOSHUA EWING ROSS, SR, b. February 07, 1833, Will's Valley, AL; d. Aft. 1910. 1920. viii. RICHARD JOHNSON ROSS, MAJOR, b. Abt. 1836; d. 1864. ix. JENNIE POCAHONTAS ROSS, b. 1838; d. Aft. 1906; m. JOHN DOBBINS MURRELL; b. Abt. 1830. More About JENNIE POCAHONTAS ROSS: 1851 Drennan roll: Tahlequah, 236 with cousin Minerva Ross 1906-09 Miller roll: Bayou Goula, LA, ap# 11800, roll# 19776 as Jennie Murrell Clan: Ani'-Wâ'di = Red Paint (Wurteh) Photo: Images of America, The Cherokee Nation and Tahlequah by Deborah L Duval, pg 13 x. DAVID ROSS, b. Abt. 1840; d. Abt. 1844. 652. GEORGE C7 LOWREY III (LUCY6 BENGE, WURTEH5 WATTS, SISTEROF4 DOUBLEHEAD, GREAT3 EAGLE, MOYTOY2, A-MA-DO-YA1) was born 1800 in Tennessee, and died October 22, 1848. He married ELIZABETH BALDRIDGE, daughter of _____ BALDRIDGE and POLLY _____. She was born Abt. 1810, and died Aft. 1851. More About GEORGE C LOWREY III: Clan: Ani'-Wâ'di = Red Paint (Wurteh) Detachment: October 01, 1838, 38-04 John Benge/G C Lowrey; as Asst Conductor Elected: 1847, Senator for Skin Bayou Dist Notes for ELIZABETH BALDRIDGE: Elizabeth is on the 1851 Drennen in Skin Bayou District, fam# 218, with Nancy Man-Killer, Wash Meal, John Butler, Che-law-nuh-cha, and Lawyer Leaf. More About ELIZABETH BALDRIDGE: 1851 Drennan roll: Skin Bayou, 218 as Widow Betsy Lowry Child of GEORGE LOWREY and ELIZABETH BALDRIDGE is: 1921. i. JENNIE8 LOWREY, b. Abt. 1830, Will's Valley, AL; d. May 07, 1853. 653. LYDIA7 LOWREY (LUCY6 BENGE, WURTEH5 WATTS, SISTEROF4 DOUBLEHEAD, GREAT3 EAGLE, MOYTOY2, A-MA-DO-YA1) was born 1803 in Tennessee, and died July 10, 1861. She married MILO HOYT, DR February 24, 1820 in Brainerd Church, Old CN, son of ARD HOYT and ESTHER BOOTH. He was born Abt. 1800 in Danbury, Conn, and died Abt. 1866 in near Bowling Green, IN. Notes for LYDIA LOWREY: The Brainerd Journal, p 154; At 3 ock P.M. Milo Hoyt and Lydia Lowrey were united in the solemn bans of matrimony -(performed by Father Hoyt) More About LYDIA LOWREY: 1851 Drennan roll: Disputed, 38 as Lydia Hoyt Author: 1819, Hymn; "Une:hlanv':hi O:ginali':i" (The Lord And I Are Friends) Baptism: January 31, 1819, Brainerd Church, Old CN Cause of Death: lifting a calf from a well Clan: Ani'-Wâ'di = Red Paint (Wurteh) Emigration: May 16, 1834, Ft Smith, AR Religion: April 10, 1818, Brainerd Church, Old CN Residence: January 19, 1834, Wills Valley, AL More About MILO HOYT, DR: Confirmation: July 02, 1820, Brainerd Church, Old CN Emigration: May 16, 1834, Ft Smith, AR Residence: January 19, 1834, Wills Valley, AL Children of LYDIA LOWREY and MILO HOYT are: 1922. i. DOLLIE EUNICE8 HOYT, b. December 14, 1820, Brainerd Mission, TN; d. July 21, 1894. 1923. ii. NANCY ANN HOYT, b. 1823; d. March 1890. 1924. iii. ESTHER SUSAN HOYT, b. March 18, 1826, Willstown, AL; d. January 12, 1864. 1925. iv. LUCY LOWREY HOYT, b. September 16, 1831, Will's Town, AL; d. 1912. 1926. v. HINDMAN BOOTH HOYT, b. Abt. 1833; d. January 19, 1863, Camp Curtis, AR. 1927. vi. MILO ARD HOYT, SR, b. February 09, 1834, Green Leaf, OK; d. Bef. 1906. vii. SARAH HOYT, b. Abt. 1836; d. Bef. 1906; m. RICHARD HUNTER; b. Abt. 1830. More About SARAH HOYT: 1851 Drennan roll: Disputed, 42 Blood: 1/4 Cherokee Clan: Ani'-Wâ'di = Red Paint (Wurteh) 654. RACHEL7 LOWREY (LUCY6 BENGE, WURTEH5 WATTS, SISTEROF4 DOUBLEHEAD, GREAT3 EAGLE, MOYTOY2, A-MA-DO-YA1) was born Abt. 1806 in Tennessee. She married (1) DAVID BROWN Bef. 1827, son of JOHN BROWN and SARAH _____. He was born Abt. 1798, and died September 15, 1829. She married (2) NELSON ORR Bef. 1836. He was born Abt. 1810, and died January 1839 in near CN West, en route. More About RACHEL LOWREY: 1836 Valuations: DeKalb Co, AL, #15 as Rachel Oar "formerly widow Brown" 1851 Drennan roll: Tahlequah, 503 as Rachel Ore Clan: Ani'-Wâ'di = Red Paint (Wurteh) Detachment: October 01, 1838, 38-04, John Benge Detachment Notes for DAVID BROWN: The Brainard Journal, p 396; David translated, with his Father-in-law, George Lowrey, the New Testament into Cherokee Syllabary. [ they translated five books of the New Testament, Act was one of them ] More About DAVID BROWN: Baptism: April 30, 1820, Brainerd Church, TN Cause of Death: Tuberculosis Confirmation: May 07, 1820, Brainerd Church, TN Emigration 1: October 11, 1819, Brainerd mission, TN Emigration 2: May 11, 1820, F.M.S. Connecticut Religion: September 04, 1824, joined Dwight Mission Church, IT More About NELSON ORR: Cause of Death: a drunken brawl Detachment: October 01, 1838, 38-04, John Benge Detachment, 1m-10, 1m-50, 1f-50 and 3 slaves Children of RACHEL LOWREY and DAVID BROWN are: 1928. i. JOHN LOWREY8 BROWN, b. Abt. 1827, Alabama; d. 1859. ii. CATHERINE BROWN, b. 1829; d. Aft. 1902; m. WILLIAM DANIEL; b. Abt. 1820; d. Bet. 1851 - 1895. More About CATHERINE BROWN: 1851 Drennan roll: Tahlequah, 503 1880 Census [CN]: Illinois, 612 as C B Daniels 1890 Census [CN]: Illinois, 2377 as Katie Daniels 1894-96 O.S. payroll: Ft Gibson, page 82 as Catherine Daniel (widow of William Daniel) 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 1661, roll# 27334 as Catherine B Daniel Blood: 1/2 Cherokee Clan: Ani'-Wâ'di = Red Paint (Wurteh) More About WILLIAM DANIEL: 1851 Old Settler roll: Going Snake, 58 (1895 page 82) Clan: Ani'-Wa'ya = Wolf clan (H Fawling) ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Hello, {on tombstone} *she went by Sarah or Sally Tabitha Wadkins. Blocker-Gray, Sarah Tabitha Wadkins late 1700's 1882 Daughter of leven Wadkins and his Cherokee wife Hannah Davis. Lived on the Missouri frontier in the early 1800's Visited Hot Springs, Ark. in 1815. Married George Blocker, who ran a trading post near Cape Giruardo, Mo. A second marriage to Mosses Gray. The mother of four daughters and six sons, who served in the Civil War. I mention Sarah Wadkins. because of the little girl born in (Mo). (I am always looking for more information on my Cherokee family) Purplefroggigger@aol.com
Dear Jay I am working on putting up my family tree, (havent figured out how yet) to go with my beaded crafts. I have family tree maker 11 but still lack the wisdom to put the information on my site. thank you for looking at my site! and for letting me know what you thought. Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net >From: jay earl <ten8csi@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com >To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Benge >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT) > >Probably should have mentioned Andrew Ross was the brother of my >GGG-Grandmother, Maria Ross and Chief John Ross (with other siblings), >children of Daniel ROSS and Mary "Mollie" McDONALD. > >PS Karen: Loved your website! > >jay earl <ten8csi@yahoo.com> wrote: >Benge history: > >http://www.users.mis.net/~chesnut/pages/bobbenge.htm > >jay earl wrote:Osiyo Karen, > >Benge is in my Ross line through marriage too. Andrew Ross, b. 19 Dec 1798, >at Chickamaugee, near Lookout Mountain, Cherokee Nation East, now >Chattanooga TN, second marriage was to Susan LOWERY and Lucy Benge, 24 June >1819, died 29 Nov 1840 at Fairfield, Flint District, Cherokee Nation IT now >Stilwell, Adair, OK at age 41. Buried at fairfield Mission Cemetary, >Stilwell, Adair, OK. He was the proposer and one of the signers of the >Treaty of 29 Dec 1835. They had 11 children. > >Also, Mary NAVE married Anderson Pierce Lowery, son of George Lowery and >Lucy BENGE. > >As you know, Benge is also a familiar historical name pertaining to "The >Bench". > >Karen Prater wrote: >thank you for your answer Jay Earl > > >George Charles Jr Lowery 1770 to October 20, 1852 Tahlequah Districk, >Oklahoma married >Lucy Benge. I come thru there daughter Lydia Lowry who married Milo Hoyt >then thru Esther Susan Hoyt who married James Jr Ward and then Henry J >Ward. any help you could give me would be great. I do have some Ross >information in my tree program. would love to trade information or just >have >a genealogy friend intrested in same name group. > >Surnames, Ward, Hoyt, Lowry and many others > > >Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli > >web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net > > > > >From: jay earl > >Reply-To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > >To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Re: David Keith Hampton's latest >book > >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:24:21 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Hi Karen, > > > >There are three George Lowery's in the book. What was the one you are > >looking for approximate birth and death year? The name Lowery runs in my > >Ross line through marriage. > > > >There is a Milo Hoyt listed on pages 121, 258 and 503. Lordy, are those > >historical names or what? > > > >Pg 121: Through the Ghigau line: Mary Ann WATIE was born circa 1814 at > >Cherokee Nation East. She died May 1844 probably at Cherokee Nation IT, >now > >OK. Children of John Walker CANDY and Mary Ann Watie: > > > >i. Harriette Boudinot Candy (m. Hugh Montgomery MCPHERSON, son of John > >McPherson and Susan MCCOY) > > > >ii. Susan Candy (m. Henry Lee HILL) > > > >iii. Elizabeth CANDY; born 30 January 1838 probablyat Cherokee Nation, >IT, > >now OK, married Hinman Booth HOYT, son of Milo Hoyt and Lydia LOWERY, c. > >1860, d. 18 Feb 1862 at age 24. Eastern Cherokee Application #2858. > > > >Hinman Booth HOYT was born on 4 Jan 1828 at Cherokee Nation East. He died > >18 Jan 1963. > > > >iv. Sarah Jane Candy 1839-1846 > > > >I did not list details to any children except iii, but they are noted in > >the book. > > > >Cherokee Blessings, > >Jerri > > > >Karen Prater wrote: > >If it is not to much trouble and you have the time > >would you see if there is a Milo Hoyt or George Lowry listed in the book > > > > > > > >Thank you very much > > > >Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli > > > >web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net > > > > > > > > >From: jay earl > > >Reply-To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Re: David Keith Hampton's latest > >book > > >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:27:03 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >No Geurin's listed. There are three Musgrove's: Elizabeth Henrietta, > > >Francis Marion and William ALexander. > > > > > >Purplefroggigger@aol.com wrote:I have a question for the person doing >the > > >look-ups? > > >Did you happen to see any Geurin? first name Archibald > > >or any Musgrove? > > > > > >I have a Rev.Musgrove who married a Sallie Fowler they had at least two > > >children > > >1-born in 1830 Sarah Sallie Selemia Musgrove > > >2- born in 1832 Martha Marie Musgrove (I was told that (She was a >"Wolfe > > >"descendant) > > > > > >I do not know much about this. > > > > > >Thank you for Sharing...I am not sure who to ask. > > >Purplefroggigger@aol.com > > > > > > > > >==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > >This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > >Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > >Please Good manors and no flaming others > > >For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please >visit > > >CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > >You can also find what you need search the archives > > >or to get off this list via web site below > > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > >Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > > > > > > >==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > >This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > >Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > >Please Good manors and no flaming others > > >For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please >visit > > >CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > >or to get off this list via web site below > > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > >Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Anyone here visiting Tahlequah during the CN's National Anniversary? Anyone joining the next Cherokee language class? http://www.cherokee.org/messages/cherokeelink/newsletter/Newsletter.aspx?Date=7/29/2005 Hope to see you there! Jerri --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Osiyo Karen, Does your family still have a clan? If not, what was the last one? A clan could not marry within itself and it always passed down through the matrileaneal lines, never the males. Therefore, uncles traditionally taught the way of the Cherokee to their nephews. A nice segue on your site might be through clan affiliations. Be careful of the FTM, some genealogies are somewhat flawed, due to the fact some people take the lazy way of solving their genealogy, instead of looking for the correlating details such as bonifide records. Another shortcut is to use a well-researched genealogist's book about your line, with footnotes you can research yourself. Digging in public records is part of the joy of putting the puzzle pieces together. When you really get into the records, you will laugh at how vague some of the FTM's really are, and how common mispellings, differences in DOB's and even, race, occur. I recommend Barbara Benge, who has done much research on the Benge line. Also Jeanne Sharp for the Georgia Mulkeys and Philip Hunt for the 'Mulkeys in America' and Tyner's 'Our People'. Starr is another great for your collection, but David Keith Hampton's recent revision is very good too. After you verify your resources, photo's are always a treasured addition, since often photographs are harder to trace than records. Genealogy resources are easy to find since the advent of the internet, but depending on how serious a researcher you are, the internet is never the end all when it comes to substantiating your findings. That's one of the reasons the Cherokee Nation is swamped and over a year behind when it comes to processing applications, which used to take less than a month up until just a few years ago. Unfortunately, I know very little about computer wizardry, but there are many fine beginner's guides and classes out there (try your local community college) to help you expand your site by teaching you the tools to use. If you ever do post your genealogy online, remember to never post anyone living, or the recently deceased within the last generation or two, since unfortuanately, we live in an age of identity theft and putting your family's mother's maiden name out there isn't a good idea since too many companies still use this antiquated question as supposed security. We have been the victims of ID theft some years ago (not from genealogy) and I assure you, it is a major hassle! Good luck and keep up the good work! :) Karen Prater <texas_celtic@hotmail.com> wrote: Dear Jay I am working on putting up my family tree, (havent figured out how yet) to go with my beaded crafts. I have family tree maker 11 but still lack the wisdom to put the information on my site. thank you for looking at my site! and for letting me know what you thought. Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net >From: jay earl >Reply-To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com >To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Benge >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT) > >Probably should have mentioned Andrew Ross was the brother of my >GGG-Grandmother, Maria Ross and Chief John Ross (with other siblings), >children of Daniel ROSS and Mary "Mollie" McDONALD. > >PS Karen: Loved your website! > >jay earl wrote: >Benge history: > >http://www.users.mis.net/~chesnut/pages/bobbenge.htm > >jay earl wrote:Osiyo Karen, > >Benge is in my Ross line through marriage too. Andrew Ross, b. 19 Dec 1798, >at Chickamaugee, near Lookout Mountain, Cherokee Nation East, now >Chattanooga TN, second marriage was to Susan LOWERY and Lucy Benge, 24 June >1819, died 29 Nov 1840 at Fairfield, Flint District, Cherokee Nation IT now >Stilwell, Adair, OK at age 41. Buried at fairfield Mission Cemetary, >Stilwell, Adair, OK. He was the proposer and one of the signers of the >Treaty of 29 Dec 1835. They had 11 children. > >Also, Mary NAVE married Anderson Pierce Lowery, son of George Lowery and >Lucy BENGE. > >As you know, Benge is also a familiar historical name pertaining to "The >Bench". > >Karen Prater wrote: >thank you for your answer Jay Earl > > >George Charles Jr Lowery 1770 to October 20, 1852 Tahlequah Districk, >Oklahoma married >Lucy Benge. I come thru there daughter Lydia Lowry who married Milo Hoyt >then thru Esther Susan Hoyt who married James Jr Ward and then Henry J >Ward. any help you could give me would be great. I do have some Ross >information in my tree program. would love to trade information or just >have >a genealogy friend intrested in same name group. > >Surnames, Ward, Hoyt, Lowry and many others > > >Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli > >web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net > > > > >From: jay earl > >Reply-To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > >To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Re: David Keith Hampton's latest >book > >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:24:21 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Hi Karen, > > > >There are three George Lowery's in the book. What was the one you are > >looking for approximate birth and death year? The name Lowery runs in my > >Ross line through marriage. > > > >There is a Milo Hoyt listed on pages 121, 258 and 503. Lordy, are those > >historical names or what? > > > >Pg 121: Through the Ghigau line: Mary Ann WATIE was born circa 1814 at > >Cherokee Nation East. She died May 1844 probably at Cherokee Nation IT, >now > >OK. Children of John Walker CANDY and Mary Ann Watie: > > > >i. Harriette Boudinot Candy (m. Hugh Montgomery MCPHERSON, son of John > >McPherson and Susan MCCOY) > > > >ii. Susan Candy (m. Henry Lee HILL) > > > >iii. Elizabeth CANDY; born 30 January 1838 probablyat Cherokee Nation, >IT, > >now OK, married Hinman Booth HOYT, son of Milo Hoyt and Lydia LOWERY, c. > >1860, d. 18 Feb 1862 at age 24. Eastern Cherokee Application #2858. > > > >Hinman Booth HOYT was born on 4 Jan 1828 at Cherokee Nation East. He died > >18 Jan 1963. > > > >iv. Sarah Jane Candy 1839-1846 > > > >I did not list details to any children except iii, but they are noted in > >the book. > > > >Cherokee Blessings, > >Jerri > > > >Karen Prater wrote: > >If it is not to much trouble and you have the time > >would you see if there is a Milo Hoyt or George Lowry listed in the book > > > > > > > >Thank you very much > > > >Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli > > > >web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net > > > > > > > > >From: jay earl > > >Reply-To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Re: David Keith Hampton's latest > >book > > >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:27:03 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >No Geurin's listed. There are three Musgrove's: Elizabeth Henrietta, > > >Francis Marion and William ALexander. > > > > > >Purplefroggigger@aol.com wrote:I have a question for the person doing >the > > >look-ups? > > >Did you happen to see any Geurin? first name Archibald > > >or any Musgrove? > > > > > >I have a Rev.Musgrove who married a Sallie Fowler they had at least two > > >children > > >1-born in 1830 Sarah Sallie Selemia Musgrove > > >2- born in 1832 Martha Marie Musgrove (I was told that (She was a >"Wolfe > > >"descendant) > > > > > >I do not know much about this. > > > > > >Thank you for Sharing...I am not sure who to ask. > > >Purplefroggigger@aol.com > > > > > > > > >==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > >This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > >Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > >Please Good manors and no flaming others > > >For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please >visit > > >CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > >You can also find what you need search the archives > > >or to get off this list via web site below > > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > >Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > > > > > > >==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > >This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > >Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > >Please Good manors and no flaming others > > >For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please >visit > > >CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > >or to get off this list via web site below > > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > >Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Is it Wadkins or Watkins? Moses or Mosses? --- jay earl <ten8csi@yahoo.com> wrote: > http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=8058&path=Missouri.Cape+Girardeau.Not+Stated.65&rc=&zp=50 > > --- Purplefroggigger@aol.com wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > {on tombstone} *she went by Sarah or Sally > Tabitha > > Wadkins. > > > > Blocker-Gray, Sarah Tabitha Wadkins late 1700's > > > 1882 > > Daughter of leven Wadkins and his Cherokee wife > > Hannah Davis. > > Lived on the Missouri frontier in the early 1800's > > Visited Hot Springs, Ark. in 1815. Married George > > Blocker, who ran a trading > > post > > near Cape Giruardo, Mo. A second marriage to > Mosses > > Gray. The mother of four > > daughters and six sons, who served in the Civil > War. > > > > I mention Sarah Wadkins. because of the little > girl > > born in (Mo). > > > > (I am always looking for more information on my > > Cherokee family) > > Purplefroggigger@aol.com > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website > > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or > Language > > lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the > > archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the > archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=8058&path=Missouri.Cape+Girardeau.Not+Stated.65&rc=&zp=50 --- Purplefroggigger@aol.com wrote: > Hello, > > {on tombstone} *she went by Sarah or Sally Tabitha > Wadkins. > > Blocker-Gray, Sarah Tabitha Wadkins late 1700's > 1882 > Daughter of leven Wadkins and his Cherokee wife > Hannah Davis. > Lived on the Missouri frontier in the early 1800's > Visited Hot Springs, Ark. in 1815. Married George > Blocker, who ran a trading > post > near Cape Giruardo, Mo. A second marriage to Mosses > Gray. The mother of four > daughters and six sons, who served in the Civil War. > > I mention Sarah Wadkins. because of the little girl > born in (Mo). > > (I am always looking for more information on my > Cherokee family) > Purplefroggigger@aol.com > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the > archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Here is Sarah Blocker's 1830 census from MO! :) --- Purplefroggigger@aol.com wrote: > Hello, > > {on tombstone} *she went by Sarah or Sally Tabitha > Wadkins. > > Blocker-Gray, Sarah Tabitha Wadkins late 1700's > 1882 > Daughter of leven Wadkins and his Cherokee wife > Hannah Davis. > Lived on the Missouri frontier in the early 1800's > Visited Hot Springs, Ark. in 1815. Married George > Blocker, who ran a trading > post > near Cape Giruardo, Mo. A second marriage to Mosses > Gray. The mother of four > daughters and six sons, who served in the Civil War. > > I mention Sarah Wadkins. because of the little girl > born in (Mo). > > (I am always looking for more information on my > Cherokee family) > Purplefroggigger@aol.com > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the > archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html
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There are some Copes living here in east-central Indiana that have lived here for at least the past 50 years that are of native american ancestry. Maybe they came here in the 1800's. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: <JimCorman@aol.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:26 AM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] FINE-COPE-LOVE NC=>TN=>MO > My LOVE ancestor moved along with families with the surnames FINE and COPE > to Montgomery County, MO by the 1850 Census. > The LOVEs were Cherokee. Were the FINE and COPE families Cherokee also? > I am trying to locate where in TN they were living before emigrating to MO. > Thanks, > Nancy > >
From this site's January Archives... Preston On Drennen 1851, Del. Dist. #659 I found Alexander Love with wife Susannah and child Tah-nah-ee. Miller App. #2035 was Katie Ka-Ka-wee and 2 children, Oaks Claims through grandparents, Alexander Love and Susan Love, Misc. Test P3184 Benjamin Blackfox says: I was born in 1883 in GoingSnake Dist. I was enrolled as a full blood. My Father's cherokee name was Dah-nee-naw-lih. My father had a brother by the name of David Blackfox who I think enrolled in 1851 in GoingSnake Dist. My mother was not born in 1851. My mother had one brother, Quan-nih. His English name was Ben Love. My grandparents on mothers side was Alexander Love and Susan Del. Dist #659. I do not know who Tee-nah-ye is. Signed Benjamin Blackfox. Katie was married several times. I am looking for this line because their granddaughter married Gilbert Snell. Thanks Donna --- Michael Matherly <michael@michaelmatherly.com> wrote: > There are some Copes living here in east-central > Indiana that have lived > here for at least the past 50 years that are of > native american ancestry. > Maybe they came here in the 1800's. > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JimCorman@aol.com> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:26 AM > Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] FINE-COPE-LOVE > NC=>TN=>MO > > > > My LOVE ancestor moved along with families with > the surnames FINE and COPE > > to Montgomery County, MO by the 1850 Census. > > The LOVEs were Cherokee. Were the FINE and COPE > families Cherokee also? > > I am trying to locate where in TN they were living > before emigrating to > MO. > > Thanks, > > Nancy > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the > archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
My LOVE ancestor moved along with families with the surnames FINE and COPE to Montgomery County, MO by the 1850 Census. The LOVEs were Cherokee. Were the FINE and COPE families Cherokee also? I am trying to locate where in TN they were living before emigrating to MO. Thanks, Nancy
Mary LOVE married Jackson WATKINS (b.NC 1827), son of McKendry WATKINS. They named their eldest child, a girl, McKendry (b.MO 1849.) Does anyone know more about these Cherokee? Thanks, Nancy