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    1. Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Chief William Potter Ross
    2. Dan M

    3. All links are free to pass on. Just for some folks, remember not to pass on the persons e-mail too <G> Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sleeping Fawn" <sleepingfawn@netzero.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Chief William Potter Ross > Do you mind if I pass on some of the links you have sent here? > Sleeping Fawn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jay earl > To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:17 AM > Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Chief William Potter Ross > > > http://digital.library.okstate.edu/Chronicles/v015/v015p021.html > > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com

    08/06/2005 02:29:02
    1. Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] family tree online now
    2. Karen Prater

    3. I dont think I ever would have got the genealogy up with out the pointers I got from you and others on the list. Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net >From: jay earl <ten8csi@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com >To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] family tree online now >Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 08:48:47 -0700 (PDT) > >Great job, Karen! Liked those cute dolphins too. :) > >--- Karen Prater <texas_celtic@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Thank you Jay and Susan and Everyone who gave advice > > and instructions, both > > in the list and to me privetly. Well its a start > > anyway > > > > Ward, Hoyt, Lowery are up as a start more to come > > > > > > once again THANKS > > > > > > > > http://www.cherokeemaiden.net/motherlineage.html > > > > > > > > Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli > > > > web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! > > Download today - it's FREE! > > >http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website > > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > > lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the > > archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________ >Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > >==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >This list is for Genealogy related conversations >Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >Please Good manors and no flaming others >For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit >CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives >or to get off this list via web site below >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

    08/05/2005 09:49:44
    1. Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Chief William Potter Ross
    2. Sleeping Fawn

    3. Thank you Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: jay earl To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Chief William Potter Ross Of course, not. There public information. I didn't write them (but I wish I did, LOL). Feel free to pass the candy to anyone you like, just don't forget to cite the site. :) --- Sleeping Fawn <sleepingfawn@netzero.net> wrote: > Do you mind if I pass on some of the links you have > sent here? > Sleeping Fawn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jay earl > To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:17 AM > Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Chief William > Potter Ross > > > http://digital.library.okstate.edu/Chronicles/v015/v015p021.html > > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the > archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the > archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com

    08/05/2005 08:27:16
    1. Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Guion Miller Roll and More
    2. Judy White

    3. New databases at AccessGenealogy Guion Miller Roll http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/guion.php Index to the 1896 Dawes Applications http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/commission.php These have been a long time coming, and we hope you find the ancestors you are looking for with these new databases. Autobiography of Black Hawk or Ma-Ka-Tai-Me-She-Kia-Kiak http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/black_hawk/ There is some information included on his relationship with the Cherokee. We also added the following, each contain some Native American information Reminiscent History Of The Ozark Region http://www.accessgenealogy.com/arkansas/reminiscent_history_of_the_ozark.htm Biographical Sketches Of Western North Carolina http://www.accessgenealogy.com/northcarolina/biographical_sketches.htm Judy

    08/05/2005 07:58:28
    1. Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Chief William Potter Ross
    2. jay earl

    3. Of course, not. There public information. I didn't write them (but I wish I did, LOL). Feel free to pass the candy to anyone you like, just don't forget to cite the site. :) --- Sleeping Fawn <sleepingfawn@netzero.net> wrote: > Do you mind if I pass on some of the links you have > sent here? > Sleeping Fawn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jay earl > To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:17 AM > Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Chief William > Potter Ross > > > http://digital.library.okstate.edu/Chronicles/v015/v015p021.html > > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the > archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the > archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

    08/05/2005 05:00:39
    1. Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Chief William Potter Ross
    2. Sleeping Fawn

    3. Do you mind if I pass on some of the links you have sent here? Sleeping Fawn ----- Original Message ----- From: jay earl To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:17 AM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Chief William Potter Ross http://digital.library.okstate.edu/Chronicles/v015/v015p021.html ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com

    08/05/2005 04:24:58
    1. Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Children of Michael HILDERBRAND & Nancy MARTIN-HILDERBRAND
    2. Staya Udanvti Bob Butler

    3. I am interested in the Martin line also as my GGrandfathers middle name is Martin, Calvin Martin Butler, b September 08, 1831, Grainger Co TN. d June 05, 1890, Jefferson City, Hamblen Co TN. A Union soldier in the 1st TN Cav Company C.. His homestead was in Hamblen Co TN, on the confluence of Panther Creek and Holston River, called Talbotts Station. Robert Burton Butler SNIP Do you have a daughter of Nancy MARTIN whose name was Martha or Patsy? born about 1827? Is Nancy Martin's husband's name Isaac or Frank? Sleeping Fawn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1. Michael Hildebrand was born in 1781. He died in 1863. Michael married Nancy Martin daughter of General Joseph Martin and Elizabeth Ward in 1800 in Ocoee, Polk County, Tennessee, Cherokee Nation East. Nancy was born in 1778. She died in 1837. They had the following children: Elizabeth (Betsy) was born on 1 Mar 1801. Jane was born in 1806. John H. was born in 1803 Mary (1) was born in 1809; d. 1829 Margaret (Peggy) was born on 11 Mar 1811. Delilah was born in 1813. Eliza was born in Feb 1815 Stephen was born in 1817. He died on 10 Jan 1867. Rachel was born in Dec 1818. Nancy was born on 22 Mar 1820. Joseph Martin was born on 22 Nov 1822. . Brice Martin was born in 1828. Mary E. (2) was born on 4 Jun 1829. Hope this helps. Preston SNIP

    08/05/2005 02:25:55
    1. Glee
    2. Joyce G. Reece

    3. Thanks, Glee, as usual you came thru with flying colors Joyce Gaston Reece

    08/04/2005 02:07:01
    1. James Martin
    2. Glee Krapf

    3. Descendants of James C. Martin Generation No. 1 1. JAMES C.5 MARTIN (*JOSEPH4, *JOSEPH3, *WILLIAM2, *JOHN1) was born abt 1780 in Chittiko, Cherokee Nation East [now Monroe co., TN.], and died abt 1847 in Goingsnake Dist. Now OK. [died spring of 1847]. He married NANI DOSHD. She was born abt 1810 in Cherokee Nation East, and died abt 1846 in Goingsnake Dist. now OK.. Notes for JAMES C. MARTIN: Emmet Starr says that James Martin was taken to Virginia to be raised by his father, but was a disappointment to his family. article edited by Adelaide Lisettta Fries in the North Carolina Historical Review which is quoted as follows: [10 November 1799] a half-Indian, [really 1/4 for his mother was 1/2] Martin, son of the General Martin with who Br. Schneider stayed formerly in Chittiko, arrived today. We asked him if he remembered the visit of Br. Schneider, sixteen years ago? He said no, that he was born in Chittiko, but was only nineteen years old now, and was therefore very young at the time. He told us that his father was now in Henry Co., Virginia, and that his mother was living in Wakowee on the Hiwassee River; he asked us to visit her as he knew that our visit would please her and she would be happy to serve us. We heard later, the he, like Price, did not have the best character, and that they drink brandy. In his book Emmet Starr indicates that James had no children, but in some of his earlier, unpublished records he lists the following sons, all by different unnamed mothers: Samuel Martin [father of Belle Martin who married James Collins], Wiley Martin and Joseph Martin [who married Melvina Bateman and Fannie Biggs]. It seem possible that further research into Virginia records might shed some light on this information. 1835 Cherokee Indian Census of Tennessee Chestooa Creek, McMinn Co. James Martin-One quarterblood. A farmer and reader of English. From DESCENDANTS OF NANCY WARD by David Keith Hampton Bounty Land Claim Files of James Martin by David Hampton From Newsletter of the Descendants of Nancy Ward Feb 2000 Volume 8 number 1 In 1855, the United States began taking claims from the persons who had served the United States in wars and were being given bounty lands. Minor heirs and widows of those decesed were also eligible to receive the land. Many Native Americans made claim. For the Cherokee, most of the claimants consisted of those who had served in the Creek war of 1813-1814 and in the Seminole Wars in Flordia in the 1830s. Claims were recently copied at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. for the minor heirs of James Martin, grandson of Nancy Ward. Previously to this discoverey, it had been believed that James Martin had no children. However, we now know that he had a daughter with the name of Gu-yu-ne-gu Martin. The use of a Cherokee name might indicate that her mother was a full-blood, but that is not certain. James Martin was enumerated on the 1835 Cherokee census where it was indicated that he was living alone, so he may have married shortly thereafter, perhaps in Indian Territory. His daughter was born about 1840 according to these records. I have been unable to identify Goo-ne-gu Martin or her gardian, Tah-chun-sy, on the 1851 Drennen Roll or Old Settler Roll,though it is apparent that they were both living at that time. Some of the doctuments from this file is reproduced here. Certain Punctuation and abbreviations have been edited for chlarity. I would like to thank Jack Baker for providing the copies of these records. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CLAIM OF GU-YU-NE-GOO, MINOR HEIR OF JAMES MARTIN Indian Territory, Cherokee Agency. On this 5th day of January A.D. 1859, before me, the undersigned, U.S. Indian Agent for the Cherokee Tribe of Indians, duly authorized by law to administer oaths within and for the Nation and Agency aforesaid, personally appeared Tah chun sy, age about 68, a resident of the Nation and Agency aforesaid, who being duly sworn according to law, declares that he is the legal guardian of Gu yu ne goo, minor child of James Martin, deceased. who was a warrior in the Company of Cherokee Volunteers commanded by Captain Richard Taylor in the war with the hostile Creek Indians, 1813-'14. That said James Martin entered the service at Lookout Mountain about the month of October of the year of 1813 for the term of 3 months, and continued in actual service in said war for at least fourteen days, and was honorably discharged at Hillabee during the month of January of the year A.D. 1814. That the above named James Martin never received any certificate of discharge, and that he died in Goingsnake District during the spring of the year A.D. 1847, and that he has no widow living. And that the above-named minor child was under the age of twenty-one years on the third day of March, A.D. 1855. He makes this applicationfor the purpose of obtaining the Bounty Land to which he may be entitled as said Guardian on account of said service under the Act passed March 3rd, 1855. He also declares that he has not received as Warrant for Bounty Land under this or any other Act of Congress, nor made any other application therefor; and that the abouve named Gu yu ne goo is the only minor child of said James Martin, deceased. Chas. W. Woodward Tah chun sy his X mark William Downing ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cherokee Nation, Goingsnake District Know all men by these presents that I, Johnson Reece Judge of the district court of Goingsnake District, by virtue of the authority in me vested by law do constitute and appoint Tah-chun-sy guardian of Gu yu ne goo, minor child of James Martin, deceased, he having given bond and security according to law for the faithful discharge of his duties as such guardian. Given under my hand this 29th day of December 1858 [Signed] Johnson Reece J.D.C. This is to certify that Johnson Reece, whose signature is attached to the foregoing letter of guardianship, is judge of the district court of Goingsnake District and that fall faith and credit are due to his offical acts as such. Given under my hand and private seal [there being no seal of office] at Park-this 5th day of January 1859. This is to certify that the above is a true copy of the original letter of guardianship on file in this office. George Butler U.S. Indian Agent We. Tsu Sun Ste Sky and Charles Manning citizens of and resident within the U.S. Indian Agency for the Cherokees, on our oaths declare, that we were present at the signing and acknowledgement of the foregoing declaration, and having been companion-in-arms of the aforesaid James Martin know him to have been the identical person he is represented to have been . We also know the aforesaid Tah Chun Sah to be the legal guardian of Gu yu ne goo only minor child of said James Martin-deceased; and that said James Martin died as is set forth in the foregoing declaration, and that he has no widow living. That said Gu yu ne goo was under the age of Twentey-one years on the 3rd day of March, A.D. 1855. We have also been acquainted with the family of James Martin ever since the Creek war, during which time he and his wife have always lived together as such which fact we have never heard disputes that his wife died in Goingsnake District the fall of the year of 1846 bearing the above named Gu yu ne goo who was the only child of James Martin now living and who is aged 18 years. Witness Char. W. Woodward Tsu Sun Ste Sky William Downing Charles Manning The foregoing declaration and affidavit after having been duly interpreted to applicant and affiants by a sworn interpreter, were sworn to and acknowledged in my presence. I know the affiants to be credible persons, and believe the applicant to be the identical person he is represented to be. George Butler U.S. Indian Agent More About JAMES C. MARTIN: Military service: Bet. 1813 - 1814, Creek War. See Notes Child of JAMES MARTIN and NANI DOSHD is: i. GU-YU-NE-GOO6 MARTIN, b. abt 1840.

    08/04/2005 01:45:32
    1. James Martin
    2. Joyce G. Reece

    3. Preston and all Do any of you have anything new on the children of James Martin? Son of Betsy and Joseph Joyce Gaston Reece

    08/04/2005 01:17:29
    1. Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Children of Michael HILDERBRAND & Nancy MARTIN-HILDERBRAND
    2. Sleeping Fawn

    3. I have had major problems with my computer and can not access my files on my family. But I have a Martha Martin married to Whitson Collins/Collinsworth (just found proof of the name change made by his father Zachariah Collins) Martha's father is Isaac or Frank Martin married to Nancy Ellison. This is all I can remember right now. Sleeping Fawn ----- Original Message ----- From: Preston Washington To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 6:44 PM Subject: RE: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Children of Michael HILDERBRAND & Nancy MARTIN-HILDERBRAND Do you have a daughter of Nancy MARTIN whose name was Martha or Patsy? born about 1827? Is Nancy Martin's husband's name Isaac or Frank? Sleeping Fawn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1. Michael Hildebrand was born in 1781. He died in 1863. Michael married Nancy Martin daughter of General Joseph Martin and Elizabeth Ward in 1800 in Ocoee, Polk County, Tennessee, Cherokee Nation East. Nancy was born in 1778. She died in 1837. They had the following children: Elizabeth (Betsy) was born on 1 Mar 1801. Jane was born in 1806. John H. was born in 1803 Mary (1) was born in 1809; d. 1829 Margaret (Peggy) was born on 11 Mar 1811. Delilah was born in 1813. Eliza was born in Feb 1815 Stephen was born in 1817. He died on 10 Jan 1867. Rachel was born in Dec 1818. Nancy was born on 22 Mar 1820. Joseph Martin was born on 22 Nov 1822. . Brice Martin was born in 1828. Mary E. (2) was born on 4 Jun 1829. Hope this helps. Preston ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com

    08/04/2005 01:05:11
    1. Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Nannie Martin's dau, Mary M. #2
    2. Sleeping Fawn

    3. Do you have a daughter of Nancy MARTIN whose name was Martha or Patsy? born about 1827? Is Nancy Martin's husband's name Isaac or Frank? Sleeping Fawn ----- Original Message ----- From: Preston Washington To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: RE: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Nannie Martin's dau, Mary M. #2 Nancy MARTIN'S dau (Michael HILDERBRAND) Mary M. (#2), b. 4 Jun 1829, Cherokee Nation East, m. Isaac MAYFIELD. She was the granddaughter of John HILDERBRAND. SR. and Anna Barbara EAKER http://www.nancyward.com/b13227.htm#P13227 Preston .......... She also was Cherokee and the daughter of Nannie Hildebrand and Granddaughter of John Hildebrand SR and Susannah WomanCatcher, a Full Blood Cherokee. ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com

    08/04/2005 12:02:24
    1. RE: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Children of Michael HILDERBRAND & Nancy MARTIN-HILDERBRAND
    2. Preston Washington

    3. Do you have a daughter of Nancy MARTIN whose name was Martha or Patsy? born about 1827? Is Nancy Martin's husband's name Isaac or Frank? Sleeping Fawn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1. Michael Hildebrand was born in 1781. He died in 1863. Michael married Nancy Martin daughter of General Joseph Martin and Elizabeth Ward in 1800 in Ocoee, Polk County, Tennessee, Cherokee Nation East. Nancy was born in 1778. She died in 1837. They had the following children: Elizabeth (Betsy) was born on 1 Mar 1801. Jane was born in 1806. John H. was born in 1803 Mary (1) was born in 1809; d. 1829 Margaret (Peggy) was born on 11 Mar 1811. Delilah was born in 1813. Eliza was born in Feb 1815 Stephen was born in 1817. He died on 10 Jan 1867. Rachel was born in Dec 1818. Nancy was born on 22 Mar 1820. Joseph Martin was born on 22 Nov 1822. . Brice Martin was born in 1828. Mary E. (2) was born on 4 Jun 1829. Hope this helps. Preston

    08/04/2005 11:44:44
    1. RE: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Jim Waddell
    2. Jim Waddell

    3. Thanks :-) _____________________________ Jim Waddell Programmer/Network Administrator Greenville Water System -----Original Message----- From: Dan M [mailto:wb@wvi.com] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:43 AM To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Jim Waddell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Waddell" <jwaddell@greenvillewater.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: RE: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Was your Grandmother a Cherokee Princess? > Dan what is the link to your page? > > _____________________________ > Jim Waddell > Programmer/Network Administrator > Greenville Water System Below === \/ ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com

    08/04/2005 08:36:48
    1. Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] family tree online now
    2. jay earl

    3. Great job, Karen! Liked those cute dolphins too. :) --- Karen Prater <texas_celtic@hotmail.com> wrote: > Thank you Jay and Susan and Everyone who gave advice > and instructions, both > in the list and to me privetly. Well its a start > anyway > > Ward, Hoyt, Lowery are up as a start more to come > > > once again THANKS > > > > http://www.cherokeemaiden.net/motherlineage.html > > > > Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli > > web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! > Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language > lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the > archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

    08/04/2005 02:48:47
    1. Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Spring Place Book?
    2. Dan M

    3. Yes it is 20K Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Reynolds" <s3js@cox.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Spring Place Book? > Here's the URL. > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/C/CherokeeGene+2003+15824002169+F > > I posted it earlier tonight, but for some reason, > Rootsweb is not sending through long messages. > Dan is there a message maximum that we don't know > about? I had this happen two weeks ago on > another list as well. When I split it in two, it > went through just fine. > > Blessings! > Susan >

    08/04/2005 02:44:27
    1. Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Jim Waddell
    2. Dan M

    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Waddell" <jwaddell@greenvillewater.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: RE: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Was your Grandmother a Cherokee Princess? > Dan what is the link to your page? > > _____________________________ > Jim Waddell > Programmer/Network Administrator > Greenville Water System Below === \/

    08/04/2005 02:42:35
    1. family tree online now
    2. Karen Prater

    3. Thank you Jay and Susan and Everyone who gave advice and instructions, both in the list and to me privetly. Well its a start anyway Ward, Hoyt, Lowery are up as a start more to come once again THANKS http://www.cherokeemaiden.net/motherlineage.html Karen Prater aka Yo-na-tli web Address http://www.cherokeemaiden.net _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

    08/03/2005 07:23:59
    1. RE: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Was your Grandmother a Cherokee Princess?
    2. Jim Waddell

    3. Dan what is the link to your page? _____________________________ Jim Waddell Programmer/Network Administrator Greenville Water System -----Original Message----- From: Dan M [mailto:wb@wvi.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:37 AM To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Was your Grandmother a Cherokee Princess? While we are sending these links which is ok. Some of the new people might not know I have a web pages of over 2000 links listed link is in all the messages on the bottom I might find some new ones to post there from your posts. Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "jay earl" <ten8csi@yahoo.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Was your Grandmother a Cherokee Princess? > http://www.cherokeeshouston.org/so_your_grandmother_was_a_cherok.htm > > =======================> ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com

    08/02/2005 09:45:01
    1. Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] McKendry WATKINS

    3. Information of the Wadkins/Watkins in Arkansas the family spells the name Both Ways-- talking about the same person. Ooops!-- I didn't realize it at the time of posting--- So you might See Sarah T. Wadkins spelled one way here and the same persons name spelling another way elsewhere- Sarah T. Watkins. /Sarah or Sally T. Wadkins Purplefroggiger@aol.com

    08/02/2005 06:32:23