http://www.gbl.indiana.edu/archives/miamis8/M31-45_67a.html Indian Traders (1743-1748, 1762-1775) Part 1 http://www.gbl.indiana.edu/archives/miamis8/M31-45_67b.html Indian Traders (1743-1748, 1762-1775) Part 2 In: Pennsylvania Archives, Second Series, pp. 531-538. Joy

Osiyo Listers, Unhappy to say that I have returned. That is, I loved my whole Oklahoma experience that much I am ready to pack my bags, and hey, I never thought I would hear myself say that! LOL. My trip was very fruitful and I visited the Oklahoma City Historical Society (Thank you, Phyliss, you were wonderful!), the El Reno Cemetary, the Bennett Cemetary, Warner Cemetary (both in Warner) and the Ross Cemetary in Tahlequah. I also visited Conner State College in Warner, help founded my GGG-Grandfather, Jonathan Mulkey. The director at the Murrell House (the only Antebellum House in Oklahoma/The Murrells were related to the Ross' by marriage) gave me a list of others also doing Ross-Mulkey research and since then I have spoken to some truly lovely people. I went to the Cherokee Nation HQ, ate at their restaurant, bought out their gift shop, LOL, got to see the Trail of Tears drama at the Heritage Center (I highly recommend it---one of the lady actor's voices there is other worldly!), did the Ancient Cherokee Village guided tour, visited the Courthouse (the old Cherokee Nation Capitol Bldg), went to Northeastern State University (unfortunately their archive office was closed) and did lots of other fun things all in just a matter of a few too short days! Wonder why I am exhausted...! Note: To the person asking me to photograph the headstone of BF Ross at El Reno. I got it! Will be posting it after I sift through the hundred others I took. Also found a Wilson for the Wilson researcher. Mostly I have Ross' and Mulkeys. Can someone tell me how to post a photograph here? Will be returning to Tahlequah (from CA, where I live---ugh) for the Cherokee Nation Anniversary Labor Day. Am putting together a Tear Dress, they are somewhat complicated, at least for a neophyte seamtress like me! Can't wait to go HOME again! Take care. Jerri --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

Hi: Are any of these family names familar with anyone on the list? Carl Wirth

Hi Susan, Thank you for doing a look up for me, I really appreciate it. Tonya ----- Original Message ----- From: "susan smathers" <susan56@tampabay.rr.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > The following are on the Guion Miller Roll > > Lucy Hawk Miller # 9929 Estella, OK > Adam Hawk Miller # 13574 Gritts, OK > Benjamin C. Hawk Miller # 13575 Afton, OK > George Hawk Miller # 13576 Muldrow, OK > John Hawk Miller # 13577 Melvin, OK > Susan Hawk Miller # 13578 Melvin, OK > Charley Hawk Miller # 13579 Melvin, OK > Annie Hawk Miller # 13580 Melvin, OK > Noah Hawk Miller # 13581 Afton, OK > Richard Hawk Miller # 13582 Stilwell, OK > Lucy Hawk Miller # 13583 Stilwell , OK > Martha Hawk Miller # Stilwell, Ok > > The following are on the Reject List > Charley Hawk Miller # 30954 Tennessee > Eda M. Anders Hawk Miller # 18115 Alabama > Henry Hawk Miller # 30950 Tennessee > Josie Dan Robert Hawk Miller # 42427 Tennessee > Julia E. Hawk Miller # 34932 Georiga > Robert Hawk Miller # 30956 Tennessee > Sullivan Hawk Miller # 30953 Tennessee > Timothy S. Hawk Miller # 30949 Tennessee > > I don't know if the above info will help you or not, I did not locate the > names you sent. > susan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tonya Luckey" <luckeytonya@atlanticbb.net> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:04 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > > > > Hi Susan, > > My gggrandmother was named Sarah Hoar and she married > > William Hawk William was born about 1830. I do not know his parents names. > > > > Thank you, > > Tonya > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "susan smathers" <susan56@tampabay.rr.com> > > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 6:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > > > > > >> There are several Hawk listed on the roll and also on the not eligible > > roll > >> do you have a first name > >> susan > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Tonya Luckey" <luckeytonya@atlanticbb.net> > >> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 6:38 PM > >> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > >> > >> > >> > Hi Susan, > >> > Do you have any listings for the surnames: Hawk or > >> > Hoar? > >> > Thanks, > >> > Tonya > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "susan smathers" <susan56@tampabay.rr.com> > >> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:41 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > >> > > >> > > >> >> I have the list of those rejected, what name are you looking for > >> >> susan > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Jim Waddell" <jwaddell@greenvillewater.com> > >> >> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:02 PM > >> >> Subject: RE: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Hello List > >> >> > > >> >> > Does anyone on this list have access to Miller Role rejected > >> > applications? > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks > >> >> > Jim > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > >> >> > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > >> >> > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > >> >> > Please Good manors and no flaming others > >> >> > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please > >> >> > visit > >> >> > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> >> > You can also find what you need search the archives > >> >> > or to get off this list via web site below > >> >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > >> >> > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > >> >> This list is for Genealogy related conversations > >> >> Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > >> >> Please Good manors and no flaming others > >> >> For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please > > visit > >> >> CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> >> You can also find what you need search the archives > >> >> or to get off this list via web site below > >> >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > >> >> Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > >> > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > >> > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > >> > Please Good manors and no flaming others > >> > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please > >> > visit > >> > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> > You can also find what you need search the archives > >> > or to get off this list via web site below > >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > >> > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > >> This list is for Genealogy related conversations > >> Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > >> Please Good manors and no flaming others > >> For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > >> CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> You can also find what you need search the archives > >> or to get off this list via web site below > >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > >> Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >

The following are on the Guion Miller Roll Lucy Hawk Miller # 9929 Estella, OK Adam Hawk Miller # 13574 Gritts, OK Benjamin C. Hawk Miller # 13575 Afton, OK George Hawk Miller # 13576 Muldrow, OK John Hawk Miller # 13577 Melvin, OK Susan Hawk Miller # 13578 Melvin, OK Charley Hawk Miller # 13579 Melvin, OK Annie Hawk Miller # 13580 Melvin, OK Noah Hawk Miller # 13581 Afton, OK Richard Hawk Miller # 13582 Stilwell, OK Lucy Hawk Miller # 13583 Stilwell , OK Martha Hawk Miller # Stilwell, Ok The following are on the Reject List Charley Hawk Miller # 30954 Tennessee Eda M. Anders Hawk Miller # 18115 Alabama Henry Hawk Miller # 30950 Tennessee Josie Dan Robert Hawk Miller # 42427 Tennessee Julia E. Hawk Miller # 34932 Georiga Robert Hawk Miller # 30956 Tennessee Sullivan Hawk Miller # 30953 Tennessee Timothy S. Hawk Miller # 30949 Tennessee I don't know if the above info will help you or not, I did not locate the names you sent. susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tonya Luckey" <luckeytonya@atlanticbb.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > Hi Susan, > My gggrandmother was named Sarah Hoar and she married > William Hawk William was born about 1830. I do not know his parents names. > > Thank you, > Tonya > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "susan smathers" <susan56@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > > >> There are several Hawk listed on the roll and also on the not eligible > roll >> do you have a first name >> susan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tonya Luckey" <luckeytonya@atlanticbb.net> >> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 6:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects >> >> >> > Hi Susan, >> > Do you have any listings for the surnames: Hawk or >> > Hoar? >> > Thanks, >> > Tonya >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "susan smathers" <susan56@tampabay.rr.com> >> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:41 PM >> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects >> > >> > >> >> I have the list of those rejected, what name are you looking for >> >> susan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Jim Waddell" <jwaddell@greenvillewater.com> >> >> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:02 PM >> >> Subject: RE: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hello List >> >> > >> >> > Does anyone on this list have access to Miller Role rejected >> > applications? >> >> > >> >> > Thanks >> >> > Jim >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >> >> > This list is for Genealogy related conversations >> >> > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >> >> > Please Good manors and no flaming others >> >> > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please >> >> > visit >> >> > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com >> >> > You can also find what you need search the archives >> >> > or to get off this list via web site below >> >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >> >> > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >> >> This list is for Genealogy related conversations >> >> Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >> >> Please Good manors and no flaming others >> >> For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please > visit >> >> CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com >> >> You can also find what you need search the archives >> >> or to get off this list via web site below >> >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >> >> Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >> > This list is for Genealogy related conversations >> > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >> > Please Good manors and no flaming others >> > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please >> > visit >> > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com >> > You can also find what you need search the archives >> > or to get off this list via web site below >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >> > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >> This list is for Genealogy related conversations >> Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >> Please Good manors and no flaming others >> For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit >> CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com >> You can also find what you need search the archives >> or to get off this list via web site below >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >> Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >> > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >

Hi Susan, My gggrandmother was named Sarah Hoar and she married William Hawk William was born about 1830. I do not know his parents names. Thank you, Tonya ----- Original Message ----- From: "susan smathers" <susan56@tampabay.rr.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > There are several Hawk listed on the roll and also on the not eligible roll > do you have a first name > susan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tonya Luckey" <luckeytonya@atlanticbb.net> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 6:38 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > > > > Hi Susan, > > Do you have any listings for the surnames: Hawk or Hoar? > > Thanks, > > Tonya > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "susan smathers" <susan56@tampabay.rr.com> > > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > > > > > >> I have the list of those rejected, what name are you looking for > >> susan > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Jim Waddell" <jwaddell@greenvillewater.com> > >> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:02 PM > >> Subject: RE: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > >> > >> > >> > Hello List > >> > > >> > Does anyone on this list have access to Miller Role rejected > > applications? > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > Jim > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > >> > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > >> > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > >> > Please Good manors and no flaming others > >> > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please > >> > visit > >> > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> > You can also find what you need search the archives > >> > or to get off this list via web site below > >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > >> > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > >> This list is for Genealogy related conversations > >> Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > >> Please Good manors and no flaming others > >> For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > >> CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> You can also find what you need search the archives > >> or to get off this list via web site below > >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > >> Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >

There are several Hawk listed on the roll and also on the not eligible roll do you have a first name susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tonya Luckey" <luckeytonya@atlanticbb.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > Hi Susan, > Do you have any listings for the surnames: Hawk or Hoar? > Thanks, > Tonya > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "susan smathers" <susan56@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:41 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > > >> I have the list of those rejected, what name are you looking for >> susan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jim Waddell" <jwaddell@greenvillewater.com> >> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:02 PM >> Subject: RE: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects >> >> >> > Hello List >> > >> > Does anyone on this list have access to Miller Role rejected > applications? >> > >> > Thanks >> > Jim >> > >> > >> > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >> > This list is for Genealogy related conversations >> > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >> > Please Good manors and no flaming others >> > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please >> > visit >> > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com >> > You can also find what you need search the archives >> > or to get off this list via web site below >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >> > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== >> This list is for Genealogy related conversations >> Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html >> Please Good manors and no flaming others >> For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit >> CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com >> You can also find what you need search the archives >> or to get off this list via web site below >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html >> Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Hi Susan, Do you have any listings for the surnames: Hawk or Hoar? Thanks, Tonya ----- Original Message ----- From: "susan smathers" <susan56@tampabay.rr.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > I have the list of those rejected, what name are you looking for > susan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Waddell" <jwaddell@greenvillewater.com> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:02 PM > Subject: RE: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > > > > Hello List > > > > Does anyone on this list have access to Miller Role rejected applications? > > > > Thanks > > Jim > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >

There are many resource links at this site for Tennessee http://www.tlhn.org/results.htm

Jim I have the index to them with app numbers if you haven't gotten it yet Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Waddell To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:02 PM Subject: RE: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects Hello List Does anyone on this list have access to Miller Role rejected applications? Thanks Jim ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com

I have the list of those rejected, what name are you looking for susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Waddell" <jwaddell@greenvillewater.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:02 PM Subject: RE: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Miller role rejects > Hello List > > Does anyone on this list have access to Miller Role rejected applications? > > Thanks > Jim > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Hello List Does anyone on this list have access to Miller Role rejected applications? Thanks Jim

There's a map of the Congarees area that has Wm. Moore 250 [acres] 1752 V, 309. The location is just above Howells Ferry and Raifords Cr. In his chapter on "The Settlement of the Back Country" in the Waxhaws area (1751-54 NC & SC), he mentions James Moore & Capt. William Moore. Joy P.S. Anyone interested in names found in SC should check for them here: http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/search/default.asp ----- Original Message ----- From: <SWatie@aol.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 5:15 PM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Meriwether's The Expansion of South Carolina.... > In your book on the expansion of South Carolina, are there any mentions of > any Moore?

In this book is there any mention of Hallmark family? Barbara Lattimore

Joy, In your book on the expansion of South Carolina, are there any mentions of any Moore? Thanks.

http://docsouth.unc.edu/nc/strange2/strange2.html

23d Congress, 1st Session. [Doc. No. 71.] Ho. of Reps. NORTH CAROLINA--CHEROKEE INDIANS. REPORT AND Resolution of a Joint Committee of the Legislature of North Carolina, relative to the Cherokee Indians. January 27, 1834. Referred to the Committee on Indian Affairs. Executive Department, North Carolina, Raleigh, January 20, 1834. SIR: In compliance with the request of the General Assembly of this State, I transmit to you the enclosed memorial, and request that it may be presented to that branch of the National Legislature of which you are a member. I have the honor to be, sir, With high consideration, Your obedient servant, D. S. SWAIN. To the Hon. James Graham. The joint select committee, to which was referred so much of the Governor's message as relates to the Cherokee Indians, have had the same under consideration, and respectfully report: That they have had the subject under consideration, and submit the accompanying memorial as the best mode of settling all difficulties with the Indians, and recommend the adoption or the following resolution: Resolved, That the Governor transmit a copy of this memorial to each of the Senators and Members of the House of Representatives from this State in Congress, with a request that they present the same to both Houses of Congress. J. W. GUINN, Chairman. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page 2 MEMORIAL. To the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States in Congress assembled: The memorial of the General Assembly of the State of North Carolina Respectfully Represents: That, at the close of the revolutionary war, the territory composing the sovereign and independent State of North Carolina was bounded on the east by the Atlantic, and on the west by the Pacific Ocean, on the north by a line beginning on the sea shore, in the southern boundary of Virginia, 36 deg. 30 m. north latitude, and thence west to the Pacific Ocean, and on the south by a line beginning on the sea side, at a cedar stake, at or near the mouth of Little river, thence a northwest course, through the boundary house, which stands in 33 deg. 56 m. to 35 deg. north latitude, and thence nest to the Pacific Ocean. The Congress of the United States having repeatedly recommended to the respective States in the Union, owning vacant western territory, to cede the same to the United States, an act was passed by the Legislature of this State, at its session in the year 1789, authorizing certain commissioners to convey to the United States all those lands situate within the ch! artered limits or North Carolina, being west of a line beginning on the extreme height of the Stone mountain, at the place where the Virginia line intersects it; thence, along the extreme height of said mountain, to the place where the Watauga river breaks through it; thence, a direct course, to the top of the Yellow mountain, where Bright's road crosses the same; thence, along the ridge of said mountain, between the waters of Doc river and the waters of Rock creek, to the place where the road crosses the Iron mountain; thence, along the extreme height of said mountain, to where Nolichucky river runs through the same; thence to the top of the Bald mountain; thence, along the extreme height or said mountain, to the Painter rock on French Broad river; thence, along the highest ridge of said mountain, to the place where it is called the Great Iron or Smoky mountain; thence, along the extreme height of said mountain, to the place where it is called the Unika mountain; thence, a! long the main ridge of said mountain, to the southern boundary of this State, upon certain conditions therein expressed. In pursuance of said act, the commissioners executed the deed of cession, which was duly accepted and ratified by the United States in Congress assembled, on the 2d of April, 1790. By the acceptance of this cession, the United States, among other obligations thereby assumed, became bound that the land laid off, or directed to be laid off, by an act or acts of the General Assembly of this State, for the officers and soldiers thereof, their heirs and assigns, respectively, shall by and enure to be use and benefit of the said officers and soldiers, their heirs and assigns, respectively; and that all the lands thus ceded, and not appropriated as aforesaid, shall be considered as a common fund, for the use and benefit of all the States, North Carolina inclusive, according to their respective and usual proportions in the general charge and expenditure, and shall be faithfully disposed of for that purpose, and for no other use or p! urpose whatsoever. A pad of the territory so ceded now forms the State of Tennessee, bounded on the east by the western boundary of North Carolina, as described in the act of cession, and on the west by the Mississippi river, to -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page 3 the north and south by the northern and southern lines of the ceded territory. All the lands laid off, or directed to be laid off as aforesaid, by the General Assembly of North Carolina, lie within the limits of the State of Tennessee; and after the location of all the said lands, there remained within the limits of Tennessee a very large and valuable residue, which should have been appropriated to the use of the Several States of the Union, including North Carolina, in the proportion set forth in the act of cession. The United States still holds under this cession, for the like uses and purposes, an immense extent of country of great value, situate between the river Mississippi and the Pacific Ocean, and between the northern and southe n limits of the ceded territory. It is true that the act or cession did not require the United States to stipulate that all rights and titles of the Indians to lands Within the limits of North Carolina should be extinguished by the United Sta! tes, as has been done by Georgia. North Carolina, acknowledging the parental care of the General Government, generously confiding in her sense of justice, and believing that good policy would dictate the extinguishment of the Indian title, did not demand such stipulation, which, if required, would have been a very inadequate consideration for the territory conveyed and the sovereignty granted. It is believed that the portion to which North Carolina was entitled by the act of cession of the residue of lands in Tennessee, after the location of all the military claims, would have been amply sufficient for the extinguishment of the Indian title to lands within the limits or North Carolina, but the United States have appropriated this residue exclusively to the use of the State of Tennessee. The United States, acknowledging the rights of North Carolina, and yielding to her just claims, attempted, by the treaties of 1817 and 1819, with the Cherokee tribe of Indians, to extinguish their title to all the land Within the limits of this State. This attempt proving abortive, by a mistake in describing the territory intended to be surrendered by the Indians, the language of the treaties leaves little doubt of the intention of the contracting parties to extinguish the Indian title to all the lands within this State, but the application of a technical rule produces the difficulty. The treaties stipulate that the Cherokees shall surrender all their lands lying within the limits of North Carolina, and then unfortunately set forth the supposed metes and bounds of the territory intended to be surrendered. In these metes and bounds there is a great mistake; the former is called a general, the latter a particular description; and it is said that the particular controls! and restrains the general description. The lands in the occupancy of the Cherokees, not embraced by these metes and bounds, and within the limits of North Carolina, are of great extent and value. This tract of country, from the most accurate information now to be obtained, includes nearly million of acres of land, and is estimated to be worth four hundred thousand dollars, and is occupied by almost twenty-five hundred Indians. The extinguishment of the Indian title to this district of country, and the removal of this unfortunate race beyond the Mississippi, is of momentous importance to the interest of this State. The fertility of the soil, the extent and value of territory, are sufficient inducements to urge the extinguishment of the Indian title, especially as we think we have just claims on the General Government. These are not the only inducements. The red men are not within the pales of civilization; they are not under the restraints of morality, nor the influence of ! religion, and -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page 4 they are always disagreeable and dangerous neighbors to a civilized people. The proximity of those red men to our white population, subjects the latter to depredations and annoyances, and is a source of perpetual and mutual irritation. It is believed this unfortunate race of beings might easily, at the present, from the policy pursued towards them by the respective States in which their possessions are situate, be induced to exchange their lands in this State for territory beyond the Mississippi, whither so many of their brethren have already gone. In addition to all these considerations, the right of North Carolina to have this title extinguished by the General Government, is strengthened by the policy which has been pursued towards the Cherokees by the States of Georgia, Tennessee, and Alabama. They have been driven, or are now flying from that portion of their lands lying within the limits of these States, and take refuge within our borders, where they are permitted to preserve their own peculiar laws and usages. The effect of this policy will be to transfer their entire population to our territory, until an exhausted soil will compel them to seek another home. The General Assembly submit it to the justice or Congress to determine whether the continued liberality of North Carolina to this unfortunate race shall be thus rewarded. Let it be recollected that the region of country in Arkansas, on which those Cherokees who have removed are now settled, was once a portion or this State, and that the result of the legislation of Congress, and of the particular States interested, has been, and will be, to remove to it all the Indians but those inhabiting her territory. Shall that State alone, which furnished an asylum for the relief of all, be denied the benefits flowing from her own liberality? Joyce Gaston Reece

If you notice in the link that was sent for Jim Hicks site, the part of the website address that reads "okindex.html" is not highlighted and is not included in the link. It is a long address and sometimes when it uses more than one line, it separates and you lose the link. You will need to add the rest of the address (okindex.html) to the end of the blue highlighted section for this link to work. This is common, so if you get another link that doesn't work, check to see if the entire link is highlighted. http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/bo okindex.html Try changing the font size if you are sending a link and want it all to fit on one line. http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/bookindex.html

Not in any of the records that I know of. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce G. Reece" <jgreece@earthlink.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Robert Goudey > Joy > > Did the name spelling not get changed to Coody? > > Joyce Gaston Reece

Joy Did the name spelling not get changed to Coody? Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: Joy King To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Robert Goudey In this material I see the following: "Not that the Cherokee were reading the name Gouedy, but Robert Gouedy lived among them for 40 or 50 years and surely had many children but no Cherokee "Gouedy" families are known." According to Robert L. Meriwether's, THE EXPANSION OF SOUTH CAROLINA 1729-1765, 132. The Cherokee trade brought within reach of the Saluda settlers what was probably the largest store above the fall line, and made Robert Goudey the most important man, next to Francis, in the valley. Goudey first appears in the Cherokee trade about 1747, and was actively engaged in it for several years. In 1751 he came from the upper Cherokees with a hundred horse loads of skins. But two years after Herman Geiger's death he had a store at Ninety Six and was thereafter merchant rather than trader, carrying on enterprises larger, perhaps, than those of any other Indian merchant save Patrick Brown himself. 41. He sent out one trader with goods worth three thousand pounds of skins, and in 1758 got judgment against Cornelius Daugherty for fifteen hundred pounds sterling. He had already the year before gone into the Cherokee country with two constables and six men and carried away four slaves from Daugherty in the night. When he died in 1775 or 1776 there were about four hundred persons in debt to him; some of the accounts, however, were of men dead fifteen years. By his will he left his property to his wife, son and daughter, but gave to his three Indian daughters a small sum of money each. 42 41. JC, July 18, 1748 (letter of Ludovick Grant), June 5, 1751, July 6, 1753 (statement of Elliott). An impressive sketch of a house "the forest, belonging to Mr. Gowdie" appears on the plat of the Simpson-Murray tract (above, p.127, n.25) on the east bank of the Saluda and nearly opposite the upper corner of the tract. Note "the forest" of P, V, 411, and "Windsor Forest" of JC, June 7, 1751. 42 JC, June 5, 1751; Indian Books, V, 44, VI, 105-109 (letters of Grant and Demere); Court Records, Common Pleas, Feb. 1758 (Goudey vs. Cornelius Docharty); Wills, 1774-1779, pp.303-304; Inventories, 1774-1785, 195-208. There are additional entries for Robert Goudey in this book. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce G. Reece" <jgreece@earthlink.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Ludovic Grant >A summary of Ludovic > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnpolk2/grant.htm ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com