This looks like a topic for the other list Cherokee-L Dan M

I've always been fascintated by the looms, they look way too complicated for me. I'd be happy w/a small loom LOL I'm not real talented. Oh sorry this is the Genealogy only list.......oops....... I'm still searching for Elizabeth Thompson Adams N.C. & James Adams TN. I don't have any dates on them But their oldest daughter was born in 1838 in Tn. & they were in Mo. in 1851 & died between there & Okla. in the 60's & 80's Also looking for Elizabeths' mom Delphia N.C. & Dad Thomas Thompson N.C. Delphia may have ventured to Okla. after her daughter & grandkids went there but it was after the trail of tears. Alli :) >I am a weaver. I have three looms. There are all kinds and all sizes. Are > you ready to spend a lot of money. It is a wonderful hoppy but it takes a > lot of time, money and space to be a weaver. You can learn on a small loom > but soon you yearn to make bigger things. The looms can cost thousands of > dollars. The thread is costly also and many times has to be oredred from > someplace so have to pay the cost of postage. It is much more than weaving > rugs. I wanted to sell what a made but most people do not understand the > time involved in just dressing the loom. This is a throwaway world and > weaving is something that will last longer than man made material on power > looms. This is the knd of stuff that you will want to pass ond down to the > next generation. It is very expenisive to buy. She is doing this lesson for > a very reasonable price. Good way for you to get an idea about what is > involved. I took free lessons at a blind school in the 1960s. I am leagelly > blind but could not sell my weaving because people think that it is too > expensive. I just love to dress the loom to get it ready to weave. Learning > to throw the shuttle and weave is the easy part. Making the warp and > threading the loom takes hours to days depending on what you are putting on > the loom. Desinging the material is another thing all together. But there > are all kinds of books to buy to teach you do do it too. You cannot carry a > loom around in a bag like a pair of knitting neeldes or chochet hook and > what you are working on. So call me a wet blanket just trying to give you an > idea of what is is like. More women than men like to weave. I need help in > setting up the loom and lost that when my husband died. Have not been able > to find anyone willing to help me since he died. Everyone is too busy. > Take the class if you can. You will probably enjoy it and will then > understand what I am talking about. > Is this for the coming May or it this an old announcement? > Glee

I am a weaver. I have three looms. There are all kinds and all sizes. Are you ready to spend a lot of money. It is a wonderful hoppy but it takes a lot of time, money and space to be a weaver. You can learn on a small loom but soon you yearn to make bigger things. The looms can cost thousands of dollars. The thread is costly also and many times has to be oredred from someplace so have to pay the cost of postage. It is much more than weaving rugs. I wanted to sell what a made but most people do not understand the time involved in just dressing the loom. This is a throwaway world and weaving is something that will last longer than man made material on power looms. This is the knd of stuff that you will want to pass ond down to the next generation. It is very expenisive to buy. She is doing this lesson for a very reasonable price. Good way for you to get an idea about what is involved. I took free lessons at a blind school in the 1960s. I am leagelly blind but could not sell my weaving because people think that it is too expensive. I just love to dress the loom to get it ready to weave. Learning to throw the shuttle and weave is the easy part. Making the warp and threading the loom takes hours to days depending on what you are putting on the loom. Desinging the material is another thing all together. But there are all kinds of books to buy to teach you do do it too. You cannot carry a loom around in a bag like a pair of knitting neeldes or chochet hook and what you are working on. So call me a wet blanket just trying to give you an idea of what is is like. More women than men like to weave. I need help in setting up the loom and lost that when my husband died. Have not been able to find anyone willing to help me since he died. Everyone is too busy. Take the class if you can. You will probably enjoy it and will then understand what I am talking about. Is this for the coming May or it this an old announcement? Glee ----- Original Message ----- From: "jay earl" <ten8csi@yahoo.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 4:15 PM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] In-loom weaving > > > > To Ms. Gaston-Reece @ Etowah Senior Ctr...is this your relative? I would > love to get ahold of a Cherokee loom and/or take weaving lessons! Can you > offer any advice? Sorry for the off-topic, but just had to ask! > > PARK HILL, OK - Skilled Cherokee artisan Veronica Gaston will teach the > basics of loom weaving on Saturday, May 21st at the Cherokee Heritage > Center. This comprehensive class is from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. and offers > students the opportunity to weave items while learning about a prominent > piece of Cherokee history. > > Traditionally, the Cherokee people did not use looms for weaving. It > wasn't until the Europeans introduced them to this modern method that they > adopted it. Since that time, loom weaving has become a part of Cherokee > culture offering many beautiful works of art. > Early registration for this workshop is recommended as class size is > limited. The $30 fee includes tuition and all materials. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Osiyo Glee, Unfortuantely that class ad was from 2000. I had a suspicion the hobby was expensive but I did not know for sure since I have never seen any classes or catalogs about it. I recently saw a fairly small loom in Tahlequah that was made of branches. It was supposed to be an original, maybe at the Heritage Center, I think. It got me to thinking how using one would give me a better idea what my ancestors contended with, and afterall, it is a rare art form these days. That and beadwork on Cherokee moccassins. I suppose since I've recently bought a couple of tear dresses (yes, I gave up the one I was trying to make myself, at least for now) it has me thinking of traditional clothing and art. Thanks for responding. Glee Krapf <gleek@ptd.net> wrote: I am a weaver. I have three looms. There are all kinds and all sizes. Are you ready to spend a lot of money. It is a wonderful hoppy but it takes a lot of time, money and space to be a weaver. --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

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To Ms. Gaston-Reece @ Etowah Senior Ctr...is this your relative? I would love to get ahold of a Cherokee loom and/or take weaving lessons! Can you offer any advice? Sorry for the off-topic, but just had to ask! PARK HILL, OK – Skilled Cherokee artisan Veronica Gaston will teach the basics of loom weaving on Saturday, May 21st at the Cherokee Heritage Center. This comprehensive class is from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. and offers students the opportunity to weave items while learning about a prominent piece of Cherokee history. Traditionally, the Cherokee people did not use looms for weaving. It wasn’t until the Europeans introduced them to this modern method that they adopted it. Since that time, loom weaving has become a part of Cherokee culture offering many beautiful works of art. Early registration for this workshop is recommended as class size is limited. The $30 fee includes tuition and all materials. --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

Debbie On Hembree-L we have two ladies who are researching the Butler/Hembree connection. I can't tell you much about the line but they can. If you are interested in posting to that list it is Hembree-L-request@rootsweb.com Joyce Gaston Reece, Director Etowah Senior Center "doing our part to help you grow in your golden years"

Forgot to mention the Butler line is my husband's and the Hembree line is mine. Thanks again. Etowah Senior Center <escc435@vol.com> wrote:Debbie On Hembree-L we have two ladies who are researching the Butler/Hembree connection. I can't tell you much about the line but they can. If you are interested in posting to that list it is Hembree-L-request@rootsweb.com Joyce Gaston Reece, Director Etowah Senior Center "doing our part to help you grow in your golden years" ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

Wa-do, Joyce! My cousin, descended from James Mulkey, married a Hembree which is not related to my Hembree line, descended from James brother, Lewis Mulkey, which I find interesting in itself. My grandparents were Georgia Farmer and Jesse Hembree. Both of the above Mulkeys (in addition to two other siblings) were all children of Maria Ross and Jonathan Mulkey. Maria was the youngest sister of Chief John Ross. She died on the Trail of Tears. My Jesse Hembree was an orphan raised by the Tom Beck family. Beck Township was named for the Beck family. Thus lies my brick wall. Etowah Senior Center <escc435@vol.com> wrote: Debbie On Hembree-L we have two ladies who are researching the Butler/Hembree connection. I can't tell you much about the line but they can. If you are interested in posting to that list it is Hembree-L-request@rootsweb.com Joyce Gaston Reece, Director Etowah Senior Center "doing our part to help you grow in your golden years" --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

OK, Thanks....I made a mistake though....Savannah Parker was my ggreat grandmother and not my gggreat. All four of my grandparents were mixed bloods, so I have many tribal ancestors I'm researching. Wado, Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "jay earl" <ten8csi@yahoo.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:41 PM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] BUTLER, PARKER >I will check that out with my husband's line. Thanks, Michael! > > Michael Matherly <michael@michaelmatherly.com> wrote:My gggreat > grandmother was Savannah Parker b. 1836 KY. Her parents were > both born in NC. Savannah married George Lanham. Family oral history > states that Savannah was full blood Cherokee. > > Michael

My gggreat grandmother was Savannah Parker b. 1836 KY. Her parents were both born in NC. Savannah married George Lanham. Family oral history states that Savannah was full blood Cherokee. Michael

I will check that out with my husband's line. Thanks, Michael! Michael Matherly <michael@michaelmatherly.com> wrote:My gggreat grandmother was Savannah Parker b. 1836 KY. Her parents were both born in NC. Savannah married George Lanham. Family oral history states that Savannah was full blood Cherokee. Michael __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Probably should have said there are Butlers and Parkers on the Dawes Rolls...but it doesn't appear they are his (yet). His particular families always were reported on the census' as white but their photos makes for compelling speculation otherwise. They seemed to have removed from SC, GA (through the PEACOCK line) before the forced removal in the late 1830's. Where they settled was termed later to be the terminus of the trail of Tears. jay earl <ten8csi@yahoo.com> wrote:Osiyo Debbie, The Parker, Butler line is my husband's. Is James Columbus Butler in your line? He was an orphan. What are your other names? Seems that the Butlers settled in the Arkansas area near Eureka Springs and therefore are not on the Dawes. The Parker line is also related to the (shhhh, don't tell anyone LOL) the infamous Pretty Boy Floyd family in Oklahoma. Debbie Woolf wrote: Jay, thanks for the kind words. It is good to see such caring and 'giving' to our people. BUTLER and PARKER? Have we discussed these? My line md. into a PARKER/BUTLER family. Debbie --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

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Osiyo Debbie, The Parker, Butler line is my husband's. Is James Columbus Butler in your line? He was an orphan. What are your other names? Seems that the Butlers settled in the Arkansas area near Eureka Springs and therefore are not on the Dawes. The Parker line is also related to the (shhhh, don't tell anyone LOL) the infamous Pretty Boy Floyd family. Debbie Woolf <woolfpac@prodigy.net> wrote: Jay, thanks for the kind words. It is good to see such caring and 'giving' to our people. BUTLER and PARKER? Have we discussed these? My line md. into a PARKER/BUTLER family. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "jay earl" To: Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:29 AM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] LAGGING? > Osiyo All, > > Debbie, my sympathy. > > We just returned from the Cherokee National Holiday in Tahlequah, OK and had a great time. The CN is doing much to facilitate hurricane relief. They are bringing 2000 people to the CN from Mississippi. Donations during one blanket dance at the Pow Wow raised well over $1000. Others followed. Collections of goods was conducted at all the events. > > I have photos for Ross, Mulkey, Butler, Parker, Raper and Wilson researchers of tombstones from Tahlequah, Park Hill, Okay, Warner and Checotah, Oklahoma if you are interested. > > Stay safe. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.19/92 - Release Date: 9/7/05 > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

Jay, thanks for the kind words. It is good to see such caring and 'giving' to our people. BUTLER and PARKER? Have we discussed these? My line md. into a PARKER/BUTLER family. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "jay earl" <ten8csi@yahoo.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:29 AM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] LAGGING? > Osiyo All, > > Debbie, my sympathy. > > We just returned from the Cherokee National Holiday in Tahlequah, OK and had a great time. The CN is doing much to facilitate hurricane relief. They are bringing 2000 people to the CN from Mississippi. Donations during one blanket dance at the Pow Wow raised well over $1000. Others followed. Collections of goods was conducted at all the events. > > I have photos for Ross, Mulkey, Butler, Parker, Raper and Wilson researchers of tombstones from Tahlequah, Park Hill, Okay, Warner and Checotah, Oklahoma if you are interested. > > Stay safe. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.19/92 - Release Date: 9/7/05 > >

Hi, Dan and Debbie I have noticed that the mailing lists are very quiet right now. Probably for the reasons that Debbie stated. Debbie, you have had more than your share of bad lately. The situation in the disaster area is just tragic. I am proud to live in a country that has such great people to open their homes, hearts and cities to the people who need so much right now. We will overcome. Gracie in Okla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Woolf" <woolfpac@prodigy.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Laging > Dan, > > yes, it's lagging. I think people are just busy, watching CNN or doing their > summer > projects. For me, I'm swamped and recently lost my uncle. As some of you > know, > I have only just moved forward from losing my spouse. Losses of any type > are hard > on me right now. > > The hurricane victims have my full sympathy. Nobody should be dealt that > type of grief. > My friend just flew there and picked up her two grandchildren. The lived > near the eye > and have nothing left. Their mom is staying (not sure why) but asked their > grandmother > to get the babies so they can have a decent home and food. They are twins > and she will > be challenged in the months ahead. Please include her in your blessing. > Her name is > Christie. > > thanks, Debbie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan M" <wb@wvi.com> > To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:06 AM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Laging > > > > Looks like the genealogy is laging. > > One thing tho > > Prayers to any of our members in the hurricane area. > > Dan M > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > > Please Good manors and no flaming others > > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > You can also find what you need search the archives > > or to get off this list via web site below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.19/92 - Release Date: 9/7/05 > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >

Hi, list members Just wondering if anyone has done research in the Kanawha Co. Va/WV area?? Looking for confirmation that Sarah/Sally Hager was the daughter of Tuckaho and Margaret Mounce. Also does anyone have anything on Rachel Anderson, who married Hezekiah Merritt in Washington Co. Penn about 1785. I have read that she was Cherokee. Gracie in Okla. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan M" <wb@wvi.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Laging > Looks like the genealogy is laging. > One thing tho > Prayers to any of our members in the hurricane area. > Dan M > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >

Osiyo All, Debbie, my sympathy. We just returned from the Cherokee National Holiday in Tahlequah, OK and had a great time. The CN is doing much to facilitate hurricane relief. They are bringing 2000 people to the CN from Mississippi. Donations during one blanket dance at the Pow Wow raised well over $1000. Others followed. Collections of goods was conducted at all the events. I have photos for Ross, Mulkey, Butler, Parker, Raper and Wilson researchers of tombstones from Tahlequah, Park Hill, Okay, Warner and Checotah, Oklahoma if you are interested. Stay safe. --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

Dan, yes, it's lagging. I think people are just busy, watching CNN or doing their summer projects. For me, I'm swamped and recently lost my uncle. As some of you know, I have only just moved forward from losing my spouse. Losses of any type are hard on me right now. The hurricane victims have my full sympathy. Nobody should be dealt that type of grief. My friend just flew there and picked up her two grandchildren. The lived near the eye and have nothing left. Their mom is staying (not sure why) but asked their grandmother to get the babies so they can have a decent home and food. They are twins and she will be challenged in the months ahead. Please include her in your blessing. Her name is Christie. thanks, Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan M" <wb@wvi.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Laging > Looks like the genealogy is laging. > One thing tho > Prayers to any of our members in the hurricane area. > Dan M > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.19/92 - Release Date: 9/7/05 > >