Dan, perhaps you can help me understanding the testing I had from SMFG which Genetree made available the mtdna that I tested for. It was free so I did it and paid Genetree a small fee for it's service. This was years ago and not knowing much, even though I'd read up on the subject, nor understanding the whole mtdna testing I didn't know the questions to ask "like markers (which I now understand is not in the mtdna testing). The testing was for only 7 "markers" or results however, I didn't understand the whole process. First, it said I was from the H5 grouping and I understood that and Genetree showed where that line came for, ending my line back in Texas in 1820 (I think). I know because my family was in Texas by 1835 I wasn't surprised by that. However this is what results the testing showed based on the Cambridge system Mitochondrial DNA Genetic Profile Location 16292 16304 263 315.1 456 523 524 Your sequence T C G C T -- -- Reference C T A -- C A C In filling out the mtdna forms I'm not sure WHICH set of Letters to use! I did notice a common factor among the letters and I did get some exact matches, one being a Chinese! and I'm not that as far as I know. However I wondered about that "bridge that" crossed back in the Ice Age into many people crossed between Asia and Alaska. Supposedly, these people kept moving south due to the weather. Though I've not really any proof, other than my family's reluctance to talk about our "Indian" blood and my grandfather's mother was "full blooded" according to my grandfather. My mother's side I have pretty much traced back to a line on her father's side to "Indian blood" and my grandmother's family line are some that are listed as "Chowtaw" in some list though proof is something I don't have at this time other they were from GA, SC, NC and again was in Texas by 1834. Plus, I watched a program that there is a belief among scientist of Mexico and America that the Malan tribe who "disappeared" used the same "blue" dye in the rituals and in their pottery that strangely wasn't found in that area. In fact, a common area the two men found was in the Georgia, NC and SC area. The same area where those snake like mounds of earth and even a newly discovered mound of earth that was designed to the Milam "found" cities in Mexico. They were discussing the possibilities of the tribe relocating from Mexico to Georgia, NC and SC area. I find these mysteries interesting and possible if one was to keep an open mind and to read articles online as well as publications on the migrations and possibilities of the populations of our World. Adiene -----Original Message----- From: Dan M Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 5:40 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Basques I sure your comments. History is Mystery. Dna is finding more uses. I always wondered If the Y dna is not passed by the female - how did it get into the baby male? Remember - there were many ships here ( before ) Columbus. How do we know, some of those did not add to the mix? Columbus claimed a mixed people he saw. Wearing turbans. The Vikings and Chinese were here hundreds of years before even Desoto. Europeans have been proved to be here 12,000 years before the first peoples. Then there is a research near the great lakes show tech 40,000 years ago of copper tools and arrow heads and then the center USA has other artifacts being studied. I have seen many races of people talked about being here, and I read what the archeologists find. So far, its getting to be a whole new system of a way of studies. Still with no conclusions. We wait. I think, the important thing to me now is, where did my DNA travel from to get here. I watched a video " Finding the Adam" a "Y" dna study to find out how far back they could get. Their conclusions were, Ethiopia, they lived on the coast, in those days the body needed sea food, dna mutated; some left the coast and went to other places, not needing sea food any more. This was said to be the reason people migrated - ?? - oh well, they said it not me ! I find lots of things interesting, but there are so many lies out there, it is easy for some one to make crazy claims. I think - there were more than one human like race here on our planet that never met each other, but the remains are still here. One tribe I did find interesting were the Chumash. I see all this, as an up in the air mystery. For now. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Reynolds" <s3js9938@gmail.com> To: "CherokeeGene" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Basques > HI, Dan! > > I think we can all agree that some of the great mysteries will lead to > surprising results when we attempt to unravel them. I wonder though - > why did they only do mtDNA? Did they not have any male skeletons to > work with? In any given population it is far more likely the women > will be from outside groups. They were easy prey for marauders, far > more easily captured than warrior males and carried to far off places, > impregnated by consent or otherwise. The male population, on the > other hand was often far more stable, although often not so long lived > because they lived a very dangerous life. I'd like to know what the > other side of the DNA says. We only have one side of the story. > > There's no reason to believe Atlantis didn't exist. In every story > there is at least a grain of truth at the core. The Atlantis myth or > story, however you chose to label it, is no different. It just > depends on how large the grain of truth might be. Could there have > been an advanced population here long before modern man wants to > believe? One whose homeland was destroyed and the remnants of that > society fanned out across the globe, or at least the areas Cayce > named? Certainly! I think it is supreme arrogance to think we are > the only technologically advanced people that have ever been. > Archaeological evidence leads to a different conclusion. Are we the > only advanced people in the whole of creation? Again, I think likely > not. There is much out there of which we have no knowledge. But it's > also not right to present as fact what we cannot back up as fact and > for which we have only myth - in the historical sense, not myth as in > a false but widely believed story. We can neither prove nor disprove > any of it, so it remains a mystery to us. > > What I find very interesting is the presence of haplogroup X. The > article notes this type is found frequently in Iroquoian populations. > The Cherokee would belong to this group unless they simply adopted the > language and are not of the same genetic stock. It would be very > enlightening to do a comparison. I have long wondered if the Cherokee > came from the same stock as many of the other Native Americans. So > many of the Cherokee, even before admixture, did not resemble the > other nations and their culture and mythology is often quite different > as well. How I'd love to be able to travel back in time to know for > certain! > > Have a great evening, all! > Susan > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Dan M <mygen2@d-matney.com> wrote: >> Barb kept talking about things some people thought were off base. >> But to look into those things you might find they were not so far off. >> http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_basques.htm#Additional_Information >> >> Dan >> >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and >> sort fact from (fiction). >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). 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So would I Susan so would i Even if it was just back far enough to find my 4th great grandparents :) -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene- How I'd love to be able to travel back in time to know for certain! Have a great evening, all! Susan

Its definitely still a mystery. I think they use the Y-DNA because it never completely changes in the women like it does with the men, who still carry their mom's DNA but it can get "intermixed" maybe with the dad's mom's dna too? I had a teacher in grade school that was basque or she married a guy who was. She was the most awesome-ist teacher I had ever had. I was suppose to have her for 2 yrs but she got preg. Towards the 2nd year so we only had her for 1/2 a yr then got the wicked witch from the east to fill in......it was a miserable year LOL -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2014 4:41 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Basques I sure your comments. History is Mystery. Dna is finding more uses. I always wondered If the Y dna is not passed by the female - how did it get into the baby male? Remember - there were many ships here ( before ) Columbus. How do we know, some of those did not add to the mix? Columbus claimed a mixed people he saw. Wearing turbans. The Vikings and Chinese were here hundreds of years before even Desoto. Europeans have been proved to be here 12,000 years before the first peoples. Then there is a research near the great lakes show tech 40,000 years ago of copper tools and arrow heads and then the center USA has other artifacts being studied. I have seen many races of people talked about being here, and I read what the archeologists find. So far, its getting to be a whole new system of a way of studies. Still with no conclusions. We wait. I think, the important thing to me now is, where did my DNA travel from to get here. I watched a video " Finding the Adam" a "Y" dna study to find out how far back they could get. Their conclusions were, Ethiopia, they lived on the coast, in those days the body needed sea food, dna mutated; some left the coast and went to other places, not needing sea food any more. This was said to be the reason people migrated - ?? - oh well, they said it not me ! I find lots of things interesting, but there are so many lies out there, it is easy for some one to make crazy claims. I think - there were more than one human like race here on our planet that never met each other, but the remains are still here. One tribe I did find interesting were the Chumash. I see all this, as an up in the air mystery. For now. Dan

HI, Dan! I think we can all agree that some of the great mysteries will lead to surprising results when we attempt to unravel them. I wonder though - why did they only do mtDNA? Did they not have any male skeletons to work with? In any given population it is far more likely the women will be from outside groups. They were easy prey for marauders, far more easily captured than warrior males and carried to far off places, impregnated by consent or otherwise. The male population, on the other hand was often far more stable, although often not so long lived because they lived a very dangerous life. I'd like to know what the other side of the DNA says. We only have one side of the story. There's no reason to believe Atlantis didn't exist. In every story there is at least a grain of truth at the core. The Atlantis myth or story, however you chose to label it, is no different. It just depends on how large the grain of truth might be. Could there have been an advanced population here long before modern man wants to believe? One whose homeland was destroyed and the remnants of that society fanned out across the globe, or at least the areas Cayce named? Certainly! I think it is supreme arrogance to think we are the only technologically advanced people that have ever been. Archaeological evidence leads to a different conclusion. Are we the only advanced people in the whole of creation? Again, I think likely not. There is much out there of which we have no knowledge. But it's also not right to present as fact what we cannot back up as fact and for which we have only myth - in the historical sense, not myth as in a false but widely believed story. We can neither prove nor disprove any of it, so it remains a mystery to us. What I find very interesting is the presence of haplogroup X. The article notes this type is found frequently in Iroquoian populations. The Cherokee would belong to this group unless they simply adopted the language and are not of the same genetic stock. It would be very enlightening to do a comparison. I have long wondered if the Cherokee came from the same stock as many of the other Native Americans. So many of the Cherokee, even before admixture, did not resemble the other nations and their culture and mythology is often quite different as well. How I'd love to be able to travel back in time to know for certain! Have a great evening, all! Susan On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Dan M <mygen2@d-matney.com> wrote: > Barb kept talking about things some people thought were off base. > But to look into those things you might find they were not so far off. > http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_basques.htm#Additional_Information > > Dan > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I sure your comments. History is Mystery. Dna is finding more uses. I always wondered If the Y dna is not passed by the female - how did it get into the baby male? Remember - there were many ships here ( before ) Columbus. How do we know, some of those did not add to the mix? Columbus claimed a mixed people he saw. Wearing turbans. The Vikings and Chinese were here hundreds of years before even Desoto. Europeans have been proved to be here 12,000 years before the first peoples. Then there is a research near the great lakes show tech 40,000 years ago of copper tools and arrow heads and then the center USA has other artifacts being studied. I have seen many races of people talked about being here, and I read what the archeologists find. So far, its getting to be a whole new system of a way of studies. Still with no conclusions. We wait. I think, the important thing to me now is, where did my DNA travel from to get here. I watched a video " Finding the Adam" a "Y" dna study to find out how far back they could get. Their conclusions were, Ethiopia, they lived on the coast, in those days the body needed sea food, dna mutated; some left the coast and went to other places, not needing sea food any more. This was said to be the reason people migrated - ?? - oh well, they said it not me ! I find lots of things interesting, but there are so many lies out there, it is easy for some one to make crazy claims. I think - there were more than one human like race here on our planet that never met each other, but the remains are still here. One tribe I did find interesting were the Chumash. I see all this, as an up in the air mystery. For now. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Reynolds" <s3js9938@gmail.com> To: "CherokeeGene" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Basques > HI, Dan! > > I think we can all agree that some of the great mysteries will lead to > surprising results when we attempt to unravel them. I wonder though - > why did they only do mtDNA? Did they not have any male skeletons to > work with? In any given population it is far more likely the women > will be from outside groups. They were easy prey for marauders, far > more easily captured than warrior males and carried to far off places, > impregnated by consent or otherwise. The male population, on the > other hand was often far more stable, although often not so long lived > because they lived a very dangerous life. I'd like to know what the > other side of the DNA says. We only have one side of the story. > > There's no reason to believe Atlantis didn't exist. In every story > there is at least a grain of truth at the core. The Atlantis myth or > story, however you chose to label it, is no different. It just > depends on how large the grain of truth might be. Could there have > been an advanced population here long before modern man wants to > believe? One whose homeland was destroyed and the remnants of that > society fanned out across the globe, or at least the areas Cayce > named? Certainly! I think it is supreme arrogance to think we are > the only technologically advanced people that have ever been. > Archaeological evidence leads to a different conclusion. Are we the > only advanced people in the whole of creation? Again, I think likely > not. There is much out there of which we have no knowledge. But it's > also not right to present as fact what we cannot back up as fact and > for which we have only myth - in the historical sense, not myth as in > a false but widely believed story. We can neither prove nor disprove > any of it, so it remains a mystery to us. > > What I find very interesting is the presence of haplogroup X. The > article notes this type is found frequently in Iroquoian populations. > The Cherokee would belong to this group unless they simply adopted the > language and are not of the same genetic stock. It would be very > enlightening to do a comparison. I have long wondered if the Cherokee > came from the same stock as many of the other Native Americans. So > many of the Cherokee, even before admixture, did not resemble the > other nations and their culture and mythology is often quite different > as well. How I'd love to be able to travel back in time to know for > certain! > > Have a great evening, all! > Susan > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Dan M <mygen2@d-matney.com> wrote: >> Barb kept talking about things some people thought were off base. >> But to look into those things you might find they were not so far off. >> http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_basques.htm#Additional_Information >> >> Dan >> >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and >> sort fact from (fiction). >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barb kept talking about things some people thought were off base. But to look into those things you might find they were not so far off. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_basques.htm#Additional_Information Dan

This list is for the disscussion of genealogy related research of family and NA linages. General chatter goes to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dan M

Please make proper use of the subject line. Do not use the digest subject line. Also only use the portion of the digest that pertains to the topic of the subject line. Thankyou. Dan

Hello I’m replying to Joy who wrote “Message 2” about looking into projects. To answer your question, No, I haven’t looked into any projects and I know nothing about them. A newbie here, so thank you for the link. I will check it out and whatever is in the link. Thank you for your reply. Theresa On Jun 6, 2014, at 5:00 PM, cherokeegene-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: subject line>subject>location>dates (Dan M) > 2. Re: Native DNA (Joy King) > 3. Re: DNA Testing (Virginia A) > 4. Re: Native DNA (Dan M) > 5. Re: Changes period (Adiene Humble) > 6. Re: Changes at Ancestry.com (Adiene Humble) > 7. Re: Changes at Ancestry.com (Adiene Humble) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 10:46:13 -0700 > From: "Dan M" <mygen2@d-matney.com> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] subject line>subject>location>dates > To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4914A218989E4AE799AD83D308C96CAD@jennic9e33da9d> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Some of us, me too. > Been skipping the subject line changing. > rule 1, never post to the digest - guess I did lol. > Any how - we all need to look in to that change. > Dan M > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 14:42:45 -0400 > From: "Joy King" <joyk@sc.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Native DNA > To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4F2F9463E6774FD2A8B49CCA4799730F@rwetwrtwrtert> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Theresa, > > Have you looked at all of the projects? > http://nativeheritageproject.com/2014/05/26/native-american-dna-projects/ > > You can contact Roberta if you still have any questions. > > Joy > > From: Theresa Buell > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 1:11 PM > To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 97 > > Hi all so I'm curious for those that have done DNA testing and are thought to be "Native American" - have you tested with Spanish/Portuguese as part of your results? > > I hear this could be common for those that may not test as positive for "NA" since the test only compares results to populations of other people therefore if you look at the population of the United States - a melting pot of nations and the "NA" population now dwindled from what it once was prior to countrydom of the 1700s and the time when many european settlers came from England, if you have Spanish and Portuguese in you results then that could be your "Native American" measurement if you have no other known traces of Spanish /Portugese in your heritage - after all look at the Mexicans? They were from Spain and note that California and much of the south west eg Arizona . Nevada . Texas WAs Mexico prior 1830s.... > > Theresa > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 12:44:27 -0700 > From: Virginia A <vdach@briarwyke.com> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] DNA Testing > To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <53921A1B.80009@briarwyke.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I did the Y DNA thing through FamilyTree DNA several years ago. > It took a long time before there were any matches and for a whle I > thought that perhaps we had done something wrong........Finally, one by > one, we had matches. At first I was disappoited, because I still haven't > been able to get any further back than I already was, but, since there > are now 6 or 7 matches, I figure that eventually we'll find the illusive > anc4estors. Like anythig else, it is just a tool. I does however, > allow you to rule out families with the same surname in the same area > but different lines. > > I am really happy that I did it. > > "A nation of Sheep will beget a government of Wolves.: > Edward R. Murrow > > On 6/6/2014 8:05 AM, OKMURPH@aol.com wrote: >> Want to do DNA test for my husband for Father's Day. Really lost on the >> best test to purchase. The Native American comes through his father's line. >> I understand that the $99.00 test are very limited on the information you >> receive back. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. >> >> Thank you, >> Kathryn >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 13:02:37 -0700 > From: "Dan M" <mygen2@d-matney.com> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Native DNA > To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4299EB663DC547328E5A75A2FBAF31FF@jennic9e33da9d> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I think it is good to open all avenues of the DNA on this list this week. > Next Sat, we can move it back to the DNA list and maybe some more > subscribers too. > People need to learn all the details, might as well have a topic and go with > it. > Dan M > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joy King" <joyk@sc.rr.com> > To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Native DNA > > >> Theresa, >> >> Have you looked at all of the projects? >> http://nativeheritageproject.com/2014/05/26/native-american-dna-projects/ >> >> You can contact Roberta if you still have any questions. >> >> Joy > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 15:53:06 -0500 > From: Adiene Humble <ahumble@consolidated.net> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes period > To: Karen <starknight51@yahoo.com>, "cherokeegene@rootsweb.com" > <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <FB680678-221F-44B6-ADDD-3543943548FA@consolidated.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > It's also a place for hackers who take ownership of your computer. I know for a fact. There redirect as well to a site they've set up. I seldom visit Facebook but the one time in ages I was hacked. He even moved a copy of the conversation I'd put in a Word program and I suspect some sort of notification .dll . Word wouldn't respond. He was a Democratic computer whizz who'd worked in Washington DC behind scenes. His words not mine. His expertize was verified by someone who knew him. Her words to me "Be Careful". > > Besides sites are all about money. Who isn't except us researchers. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Karen <starknight51@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Did Facebook purchase ancestry.com then? Had read earlier that either they or Google was looking to buy. I've seen a real push on every page trying to get us to submit info to Facebook and other "social" pages. Facebook is not best place for genealogy. To much 'other' stuff going on there - in my case most friends, family, and acquaintences not interested much geneaolgy (maybe when they get older they will). > > I'm very disappointed in the direction ancestry.com appears to be going having always enjoyed them in the past - my peaceful haven & refuge away from the rest of the world & it's cares. It was a secure feeling like having a private 'club' seperated from the rest of the internet world, but now with all these "social" network links being added to every ancestry page & a push for us to be continually interact the outside world (these SOCIAL SITES) it makes me feel very unconfortable. > > We are a unique people (many older) in our love & deep interest in family who are no longer among the living. Many of our ancestors who have passed, we know little of if anything yet we will put many concentrated hours & much focus, deep study, and searching as we learn about them and build our trees. We need our own separate corner of the web like ancestry.com has always been in the past for these interests & pursuits rather than a social website like Facebook which is basically a free for all for the living & all about the LIVING where we research & study the DEAD ... big difference ... the workings of the two websites as 'one' do not co-mingle together well. On FaceBook too many distractions like pop up messages about other things etc. > > Yes, Facebook is nice in it's right place, like for me it's popping in to see what the kids & grand-kids are doing & seeing new pictures etc - love that. But we're kind of like a Professor with our deep family research & study, then to be thrown into Facebook would be like being thrown on to the basketball court. Kind of hard to explain but believe many of you know what I'm trying to say. > > > ~ Karen > > > > On Friday, June 6, 2014 9:32 AM, Joyce Gaston Reece <bjreece@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > >> >> >> The article Joy sent the link for tells what they are doing. Rootsweb isn't >> going anywhere. BUT, IMO, and in my opinion only, I am going to predict >> that if people don't get off facebook for genealogy they mail list on >> rootsweb will be the next thing to go. Why does it matter? > ARCHIVES! Can >> you do a search on your surname and find 100 hits on it in facebook? The >> mail lists are dying because they aren't being used. There is a facebook >> list called rootsweb genealogists with circa 15,000 members and a bunch of >> posts everyday. Consider how great it would be if this was happening on a >> mail list with searchable archives. Facebook is a really stupid way to do >> genealogy....and that's my rant for today. >> >> >> >> Joyce Gaston Reece >> >> > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 15:57:45 -0500 > From: Adiene Humble <ahumble@consolidated.net> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com > To: "cherokeegene@rootsweb.com" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <59A6D6C8-71E6-48F6-A379-F26BEA66A51D@consolidated.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Agree. You can learn something even with someone you don't agree with > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 6, 2014, at 10:03 AM, "Dan M" <mygen2@d-matney.com> wrote: > > Yes, and I know of a few who just read mainly now and we loose their > resources because some one else decided to do battle with them - even off > list, this caused a loss on list. > Several people have told me of problems with other members over the years. > I can't say who, it is a trust - I don't save those messages so they can get > into the wrong eyes. > But I can say - we would have a far better list if people would only read, > visit and save the ( words that do not need to be used) for silence. Every > one is entitled to their own opinions in research. > Even if it is to be proved a myth - that can be done with polite facts. > No need for any other reactions. > Then people won't just read - or start new lists to get away from hostile > posts. > Dan M > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> > To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 7:51 AM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com >> The mailing list's aren't busy just because of genealogy being supposedly >> posted on FB, its because people run into brick walls, get >> attacked/slammed, >> etc. for researching their lines & "taboo" subjects. So they give up on >> trying to break through their walls, they got hooked on FB & Twitter & >> have >> been distracted from genealogy or its not as "fun" as it use to be & >> they've >> found new hobbies. >> > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 16:00:22 -0500 > From: Adiene Humble <ahumble@consolidated.net> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com > To: "cherokeegene@rootsweb.com" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <A91EEBD9-30D8-4AE2-B673-F28F07AEB2CA@consolidated.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On ancestry I had additions in their "story" line I KNEW was incorrect. I made a comment and forgot it. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 6, 2014, at 10:01 AM, "Alli :\)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> wrote: > > Because they can > And they know that average person won't balk against the change they'll just > pay the required fee & follow the crowd > > -----Original Message----- > From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M > Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 7:41 PM > To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com > > I downloaded my family tree ged from Ancestry - I will get a different tree > prg, maybe heritage, I have an account there too. > > Why are they messing up the system? > Dan > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CHEROKEEGENE list administrator, send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the CHEROKEEGENE mailing list, send an email to CHEROKEEGENE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 101 > ********************************************

Hi Karen, Really loved your note about “Changes at Ancestry.com” - this would be great feedback to give to them. I’ve worked in Marketing and Management most of my career and this is the type of key insight that big companies pay a lot of Market Research money for just to get! I’m sure the management and Ancestry would love to hear what you have to say - you never know - they may take it into consideration. Many times decisions get made without hearing enough from “the customer”. Regarding the rationale for all the linking to Facebook however, it’s a way to indirectly promote Ancestry and Fold3 to your network as if you find something on Ancestry then post it to Facebook, those people will se that your doing stuff on Ancestry and that, in a way, promotes and creates awareness of the Ancestry product. I’ve noticed they’ve been doing a lot of TV advertising lately. TB advertising is very costly and “viral marketing” such as mentions of the product in status updates on Facebook costs them nothing so many companies encores social media these days. To the extent that TV advertising can be lessened and cheaper forms of marketing like social media be leveraged, this helps keeps costs down (or at least not inflationary). Anyway, just wanted to say I enjoyed what you wrote and i personally agree that while Facebook has merit for sharing things with friends and family, it NOT a place to do genealogy and agree they should be kept as separate platforms. Theresa On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:43 PM, cherokeegene-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Changes at Ancestry.com (Karen) > 2. Re: CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 97 (Dan M) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 10:12:19 -0700 (PDT) > From: Karen <starknight51@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com > To: "cherokeegene@rootsweb.com" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1402074739.45043.YahooMailNeo@web140503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Did Facebook purchase ancestry.com then? Had read earlier that either they or Google was looking to buy. I've seen a real push on every page trying to get us to submit info to Facebook and other "social" pages. Facebook is not best place for genealogy. To much 'other' stuff going on there - in my case most? friends, family, and acquaintences not interested much geneaolgy (maybe when they get older they will). > > I'm very disappointed in the direction ancestry.com appears to be going having always enjoyed them in the past - my peaceful haven & refuge away from the rest of the world & it's cares. It was a secure feeling like having a private 'club' seperated from the rest of the internet world, but now with all these "social" network links being added to every ancestry page & a push for us to be continually interact the outside world (these SOCIAL SITES) it makes me feel very unconfortable. > > We are a unique people (many older) in our love & deep interest in family who are no longer among the living. Many of our ancestors who have passed, we know little of if anything yet we will put many concentrated hours & much focus, deep study, and searching as we learn about them and build our trees.? We need our own separate corner of the web like ancestry.com has always been in the past for these interests & pursuits rather than a social website like Facebook which is basically a free for all for the living & all about the LIVING where we research & study the DEAD ... big difference ... the workings of the two websites as 'one' do not co-mingle together well. On FaceBook too many distractions like pop up messages about other things etc. > > Yes, Facebook is nice in it's right place, like for me it's popping in to see what the kids & grand-kids are doing & seeing new pictures etc - love that. But we're kind of like a Professor with our deep family research & study, then to be thrown into Facebook would be like being thrown on to the basketball court. Kind of hard to explain but believe many of you know what I'm trying to say. > > > ~ Karen > > ? > > On Friday, June 6, 2014 9:32 AM, Joyce Gaston Reece <bjreece@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > >> >> >> The article Joy sent the link for tells what they are doing.? Rootsweb isn't >> going anywhere.? BUT, IMO, and in my opinion only, I am going to predict >> that if people don't get off facebook for genealogy they mail list on >> rootsweb will be the next thing to go.? Why does it matter?? > ARCHIVES!? Can >> you do a search on your surname and find 100 hits on it in facebook?? The >> mail lists are dying because they aren't being used.? There is a facebook >> list called rootsweb genealogists with circa 15,000 members and a bunch of >> posts everyday.? Consider how great it would be if this was happening on a >> mail list with searchable archives.? Facebook is a really stupid way to do >> genealogy....and that's my rant for today. >> >> >> >> Joyce Gaston Reece >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 10:43:00 -0700 > From: "Dan M" <mygen2@d-matney.com> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 97 > To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <48E110EE6C66404A8F147B741A938C9E@jennic9e33da9d> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > This is a similar topic I was talking about to Alli, when a test came back > as Euro and British Islands, don't discount the possibility of NA > connections. Same as other matches. No one knows for sure just who the ( > NA ) people were or came from, but the tests ( if there was a way to match > them) would help in the peopling timelines. > Mainly, those time lines concerning this list - would be since the ( > coming of the pilgrims) mainly. > But could also be influenced by the other people who have been coming since > it started. > How could the Vikings Leaf Erickson; have influenced the population when > they came, and Desoto, Columbus, all those other people who came before and > after the so called land bridge - or by boat even before then. How about the > claims the Euro were here 12,000 years before the NA? > Who were the NA - old ship logs tell of a multi race even when Columbus > came here. Melting pot? That's an easy word for the complex mixing. Its a > time line issue. Mainly, time of the pilgrims and WHO they mixed with - > there were not many people here yet. Mixing with the friendly NA could have > been a solution to lonely men and women. Best way I see it, find your kins, > then study them on a single focus. That might be harder than it seems > because of the way the Indians were treated and how they tried to hide by > saying they were other nationalities. > There is a NA test of 14,000 with some NA feces out here, that shows they > were of Asian decent - those markers can be found easy enough. I listed some > of those studies on my national website. > Some time ago, I posted them here. > One guy posted his dna gave matches to names he never heard of. > Might be part of that melting pot of the occupational and place names. > e.g. Cooper - Potters, Smiths, Mattingly, Mather and so one - then what to > do? Accept it, or question it? > With out some knowing of the other persons past actions with NA, there is > some chance it could be listed as ( no NA) even when those people were here > before. How do you get a match of DNA prior to prove it is a NA connection? > Maybe another person ( who is proven) has your match. > Best answer - if a proven NA, had a test and you have a match is about all > to hope for. > Joy? > Dan M > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Theresa Buell" <theresa.buell@gmail.com> > To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 10:11 AM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 97 > > >> Hi all so I'm curious for those that have done DNA testing and are thought >> to be "Native American" - have you tested with Spanish/Portuguese as part >> of your results? >> >> I hear this could be common for those that may not test as positive for >> "NA" since the test only compares results to populations of other people >> therefore if you look at the population of the United States - a melting >> pot of nations and the "NA" population now dwindled from what it once was >> prior to countrydom of the 1700s and the time when many european settlers >> came from England, if you have Spanish and Portuguese in you results then >> that could be your "Native American" measurement if you have no other >> known traces of Spanish /Portugese in your heritage - after all look at >> the Mexicans? They were from Spain and note that California and much of >> the south west eg Arizona . Nevada . Texas WAs Mexico prior 1830s.... >> >> Theresa >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> (please excuse any typos) >> >>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 9:42 AM, cherokeegene-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Changes at Ancestry.com (Virginia A) >>> 2. Re: Changes at Ancestry.com (Virginia A) >>> 3. Re: Changes at Ancestry.com (Joyce Gaston Reece) >>> 4. Re: Changes at Ancestry.com (Joyce Gaston Reece) >>> 5. Re: Changes at Ancestry.com (Dan M) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 00:35:52 -0700 >>> From: Virginia A <vdach@briarwyke.com> >>> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com >>> To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com >>> Message-ID: <53916F58.6060201@briarwyke.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >>> >>> I got an invitation to this site (no-reply@Archives.com) wanting me to >>> put my info out on their site...............just looking at the address, >>> somehow, I am a bit distrustful. >>> >>> "A nation of Sheep will beget a government of Wolves.: >>> Edward R. Murrow >>> >>>> On 6/5/2014 8:33 PM, Dan M wrote: >>>> Thats a good question. >>>> I have a Cherokee genealogy group on yahoo, it was never used much, but >>>> if >>>> we loose this group, we can access it. >>>> I also have a yahoo group called The American Indian. Its been dormant >>>> too. >>>> Dan >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Virginia A" <vdach@briarwyke.com> >>>> To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 7:08 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com >>>> >>>> >>>>> I don't know, but it's not a place I want to use! >>>>> Is Rootsweb going away too? >>>>> >>>>> "A nation of Sheep will beget a government of Wolves.: >>>>> Edward R. Murrow >>>>> >>>>> On 6/5/2014 3:45 PM, Alli :) wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 00:38:13 -0700 >>> From: Virginia A <vdach@briarwyke.com> >>> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com >>> To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com >>> Message-ID: <53916FE5.3070007@briarwyke.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >>> >>> Forgot to add: the From line ontains the name "Archives" (without the >>> quote marks). >>> >>> "A nation of Sheep will beget a government of Wolves.: >>> Edward R. Murrow >>> >>>> On 6/5/2014 8:33 PM, Dan M wrote: >>>> Thats a good question. >>>> I have a Cherokee genealogy group on yahoo, it was never used much, but >>>> if >>>> we loose this group, we can access it. >>>> I also have a yahoo group called The American Indian. Its been dormant >>>> too. >>>> Dan >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Virginia A" <vdach@briarwyke.com> >>>> To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 7:08 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com >>>> >>>> >>>>> I don't know, but it's not a place I want to use! >>>>> Is Rootsweb going away too? >>>>> >>>>> "A nation of Sheep will beget a government of Wolves.: >>>>> Edward R. Murrow >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/5/2014 3:45 PM, Alli :) wrote: >>>>>> Why would anyone put genealogy related info on Facebook ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Joyce Gaston Reece >>>>>> <bjreece@bellsouth.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Joy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Did they say what they were going to do with all the messages on the >>>>>>> boards at Genealogy.com? I hope they're going to keep those >>>>>>> available. One reason I don't like genealogy on facebook is because >>>>>>> there is no permanency....these message boards can be very useful for >>>>>>> researchers...would be a shame to loose them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joyce Gaston Reece >>>>>> >>>>>> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >>>>>> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; >>>>>> and sort fact from (fiction). >>>>>> >>>>>> Rude people will be moderated asap! >>>>>> List archive >>>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >>>>>> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Dual admin. >>>>>> Dan and Joyce >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >>>>> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; >>>>> and >>>>> sort fact from (fiction). >>>>> >>>>> Rude people will be moderated asap! >>>>> List archive >>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >>>>> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >>>>> Dual admin. >>>>> Dan and Joyce >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >>>> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and >>>> sort fact from (fiction). >>>> >>>> Rude people will be moderated asap! >>>> List archive >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >>>> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >>>> Dual admin. >>>> Dan and Joyce >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 08:55:45 -0400 >>> From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> >>> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com >>> To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <F426B69182C04346873D2B9C88253339@JoycePC> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> I've known for quite awhile that these 'subsidiaries' were databases they >>> purchased over the years BUT also included under the main umbrella of >>> Ancestry.com There was no reason to sub to genealogy.com if you have a >>> ancestry sub. There was no use to sub to any of them if you had a full >>> membership at ancestry. In all actuality what they are doing is putting >>> everything possible under one umbrella when it comes to those type >>> things. >>> All the 'My Family" databases were included in the public trees on >>> ancestry >>> and can be accessed from there. >>> >>> As for the DNA portion. I'd venture to guess that the autosomal testing >>> they are doing won't last much longer either. It just doesn't even make >>> sense to test with them when so many millions more are testing at >>> familytreedna.com The bigger the database the more chance one has for >>> matching numbers. >>> >>> I had autosomal done at ftdna...it took awhile but was able to confirm >>> two >>> lineages that I had evidentiary data on previously. When one has over >>> 1000 >>> cousins listed to one degree or another it takes a whole lot of digging >>> but >>> can be done. >>> >>> They aren't removing anything....they're combining things under one >>> umbrella. >>> >>> >>> Joyce Gaston Reece >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Dan M >>> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 9:42 PM >>> To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com >>> >>> Maybe the gov shut them down? >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> >>> To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 3:43 PM >>> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com >>> >>> >>>> Interesting. >>>> >>>> Why close the database when so many people have their info stored there? >>>> >>>> . >>>> >>>> http://dna-explained.com/2014/06/05/ancestry-com-discontinues-y-and-mtdna-te >>>> sts-and-closes-data-base/ >>>> Ancestry.com Discontinues Y and mtDNA Tests >>>> >>>> Joy >>>> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >>>> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and >>>> sort fact from (fiction). >>>> >>>> Rude people will be moderated asap! >>>> List archive >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >>>> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. >>>> Dan and Joyce >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >>>> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and >>>> sort fact from (fiction). >>>> >>>> Rude people will be moderated asap! >>>> List archive >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >>>> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. >>>> Dan and Joyce >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >>>> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and >>>> sort fact from (fiction). >>>> >>>> Rude people will be moderated asap! >>>> List archive >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >>>> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >>>> Dual admin. >>>> Dan and Joyce >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >>> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and >>> sort fact from (fiction). >>> >>> Rude people will be moderated asap! >>> List archive >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >>> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >>> Dual admin. >>> Dan and Joyce >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 09:32:03 -0400 >>> From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> >>> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com >>> To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <7D1285AE556D4C18BF781CA9DD1A34FA@JoycePC> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> The article Joy sent the link for tells what they are doing. Rootsweb >>> isn't >>> going anywhere. BUT, IMO, and in my opinion only, I am going to predict >>> that if people don't get off facebook for genealogy they mail list on >>> rootsweb will be the next thing to go. Why does it matter? ARCHIVES! >>> Can >>> you do a search on your surname and find 100 hits on it in facebook? >>> The >>> mail lists are dying because they aren't being used. There is a facebook >>> list called rootsweb genealogists with circa 15,000 members and a bunch >>> of >>> posts everyday. Consider how great it would be if this was happening on >>> a >>> mail list with searchable archives. Facebook is a really stupid way to >>> do >>> genealogy....and that's my rant for today. >>> >>> >>> >>> Joyce Gaston Reece >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Dan M >>> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 11:33 PM >>> To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com >>> >>> Thats a good question. >>> I have a Cherokee genealogy group on yahoo, it was never used much, but >>> if >>> we loose this group, we can access it. >>> I also have a yahoo group called The American Indian. Its been dormant >>> too. >>> Dan >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Virginia A" <vdach@briarwyke.com> >>> To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 7:08 PM >>> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com >>> >>> >>>> I don't know, but it's not a place I want to use! >>>> Is Rootsweb going away too? >>>> >>>> "A nation of Sheep will beget a government of Wolves.: >>>> Edward R. Murrow >>>> >>>>> On 6/5/2014 3:45 PM, Alli :) wrote: >>>>> Why would anyone put genealogy related info on Facebook ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Joyce Gaston Reece >>>>> <bjreece@bellsouth.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Joy >>>>>> >>>>>> Did they say what they were going to do with all the messages on the >>>>>> boards at Genealogy.com? I hope they're going to keep those >>>>>> available. One reason I don't like genealogy on facebook is because >>>>>> there is no permanency....these message boards can be very useful for >>>>>> researchers...would be a shame to loose them. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Joyce Gaston Reece >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >>>>> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; >>>>> and sort fact from (fiction). >>>>> >>>>> Rude people will be moderated asap! >>>>> List archive >>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >>>>> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >>>>> Dual admin. >>>>> Dan and Joyce >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >>>> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and >>>> sort fact from (fiction). >>>> >>>> Rude people will be moderated asap! >>>> List archive >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >>>> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >>>> Dual admin. >>>> Dan and Joyce >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >>> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and >>> sort fact from (fiction). >>> >>> Rude people will be moderated asap! >>> List archive >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >>> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >>> Dual admin. >>> Dan and Joyce >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 06:41:46 -0700 >>> From: "Dan M" <mygen2@d-matney.com> >>> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com >>> To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <66057AF4583643789B6B11603F10D86A@jennic9e33da9d> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> I have an account at archives. >>> If that is the same one that comes up doing search at find a grave - >>> which >>> is part of Ancestry, at least for now. >>> It seems they only keep things the adds are making money on or they can >>> get subscriptions. >>> When we first started Ancestry - we got the census and other documents >>> with >>> the subscription, now they are trying to sell those too. >>> Just making Ancestry less important to folks any more. >>> Dan >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Virginia A" <vdach@briarwyke.com> >>> To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 12:35 AM >>> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com >>> >>> >>>> I got an invitation to this site (no-reply@Archives.com) wanting me to >>>> put my info out on their site...............just looking at the address, >>>> somehow, I am a bit distrustful. >>>> >>>> "A nation of Sheep will beget a government of Wolves.: >>>> Edward R. Murrow >>>> >>>>> On 6/5/2014 8:33 PM, Dan M wrote: >>>>> Thats a good question. >>>>> I have a Cherokee genealogy group on yahoo, it was never used much, but >>>>> if >>>>> we loose this group, we can access it. >>>>> I also have a yahoo group called The American Indian. Its been dormant >>>>> too. >>>>> Dan >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Virginia A" <vdach@briarwyke.com> >>>>> To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 7:08 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I don't know, but it's not a place I want to use! >>>>>> Is Rootsweb going away too? >>>>>> >>>>>> "A nation of Sheep will beget a government of Wolves.: >>>>>> Edward R. Murrow >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/5/2014 3:45 PM, Alli :) wrote: >>>> >>>> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >>>> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and >>>> sort fact from (fiction). >>>> >>>> Rude people will be moderated asap! >>>> List archive >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >>>> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >>>> Dual admin. >>>> Dan and Joyce >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To contact the CHEROKEEGENE list administrator, send an email to >>> CHEROKEEGENE-admin@rootsweb.com. >>> >>> To post a message to the CHEROKEEGENE mailing list, send an email to >>> CHEROKEEGENE@rootsweb.com. >>> >>> __________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >>> body of the >>> email with no additional text. >>> >>> >>> End of CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 97 >>> ******************************************* >> >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and >> sort fact from (fiction). >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CHEROKEEGENE list administrator, send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the CHEROKEEGENE mailing list, send an email to CHEROKEEGENE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 100 > ********************************************

Exactly! Not sure what was going on. Thanks all for your consideration! Fawn Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 6, 2014, at 11:30 PM, "Alli :\)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> wrote: > > > It wasn't about not looping anywhere it was about not posting or appearing > to post :) > > >> On 6/6/2014 5:40 PM, Alli :) wrote: >> She doesn't have G Mail Joyce. >> >> I do & I don't have any issues w/RW......at least not yet lol >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joyce Gaston >> Reece >> Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 6:16 PM >> To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] FW: Stokes >> >> You can tell her it's the gmail, Alli. >> >> G-Mail doesn't loop mail from the lists back to the sender. >> >> >> >> Joyce Gaston Reece >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alli :) >> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 8:02 PM >> To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [CherokeeGene] FW: Stokes >> >> I was asked to forward a message as it won't go through for her. So if >> you guys have any questions about the message below contact fawn >> directly (addy is below) >> >> >> Alli :) >> >> >> >> From: Fawn Dessy [mailto:fdessy@aol.com] fdessy @ aol.com (take out >> the spaces before & after the @) >> Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 5:50 PM >> To: iamcheroke@gmail.com >> Subject: Stokes >> >> >> >> I hope you remember me on the Cherokee Rogers and Pettitt information >> from some time back. I am getting emails from the Cherokeegene board, >> but tried to send the following a couple of days ago, and it appears >> it did not go through. Can you make the inquiry for me? >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Fawn Dessy >> >> >> >> I am trying to help a friend locate his ancestors who are Everett and >> Settie Stokes who were Cherokee and apparently living in some place in >> OK during the period of the Dawes Rolls. >> >> >> >> He thought cousins had their CNO cards based on their descent from >> Everett and Settie, but I do not see these names in Vol II of Cherokee >> Roots. Is there somewhere else I should be looking? >> >> >> >> >> >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; >> and sort fact from (fiction). >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; >> and sort fact from (fiction). >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Meant to include the latest issue: http://www.genealogyintime.com/news/ancestry-rationalizes-websites-page1.html?awt_l=MB3Yo&awt_m=JTCVVa3KHAk.Vy Joy

GenealogyInTime is a good free Magazine Newsletter to subscribe to. http://www.genealogyintime.com/articles/top-100-genealogy-websites-of-2014-page01.html Top 100 Genealogy Websites of 2014 Joy

It wasn't about not looping anywhere it was about not posting or appearing to post :) On 6/6/2014 5:40 PM, Alli :) wrote: > She doesn't have G Mail Joyce. > > I do & I don't have any issues w/RW......at least not yet lol > > -----Original Message----- > From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joyce Gaston > Reece > Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 6:16 PM > To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] FW: Stokes > > You can tell her it's the gmail, Alli. > > G-Mail doesn't loop mail from the lists back to the sender. > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > -----Original Message----- > From: Alli :) > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 8:02 PM > To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CherokeeGene] FW: Stokes > > I was asked to forward a message as it won't go through for her. So if > you guys have any questions about the message below contact fawn > directly (addy is below) > > > Alli :) > > > > From: Fawn Dessy [mailto:fdessy@aol.com] fdessy @ aol.com (take out > the spaces before & after the @) > Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 5:50 PM > To: iamcheroke@gmail.com > Subject: Stokes > > > > I hope you remember me on the Cherokee Rogers and Pettitt information > from some time back. I am getting emails from the Cherokeegene board, > but tried to send the following a couple of days ago, and it appears > it did not go through. Can you make the inquiry for me? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Fawn Dessy > > > > I am trying to help a friend locate his ancestors who are Everett and > Settie Stokes who were Cherokee and apparently living in some place in > OK during the period of the Dawes Rolls. > > > > He thought cousins had their CNO cards based on their descent from > Everett and Settie, but I do not see these names in Vol II of Cherokee > Roots. Is there somewhere else I should be looking? > > > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; > and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; > and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh I know, I've been looking up the History of this country/timeline to give my kids a better understanding & its been interesting research :) -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adiene Humble Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 9:46 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Native DNA You are correct. Plus it is believed that Mayans migrated to NC by some historians today based on similar data. Also we tend to think coloring of hair and skin determines locations. Not true. Borders of countries inter married so France, for instance had people with light and dark skin, black and blue eyes, not counting raiders, Romans, etc. Plus ship wrecks had men jump ship or floated to areas. It is now believed that other countrymen were in America before Columbus. Watch National Geograpy see the possibilities. Real histories. It's part of genealogy A Sent from my iPhone

Amen Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2014, at 7:39 PM, "Alli :\)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> wrote: I always have documents to back up what I find. I have found MANY who don't verify squat before posting their "findings" there have been several that have had my direct line so screwed up it wasn't even funny & w/o proof, they continue to post it. Drives me insane -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adiene Humble Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 6:29 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] learning I believe you should check for yourself ANY info that may be about your family line, even if it's right. I also have learned that sometimes links you have found that could connect as well. I may compare many families in this process. Follow leads but check for youtself Sent from my iPhone =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I got it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Fawn Dessy <fdessy@aol.com> wrote: I am checking to see if this will go through this time. I have aol and that sometimes is an issue. The information I am looking for is on Everett and Settie Stokes. Fawn Dessy -----Original Message----- From: Alli :) <iamcheroke@gmail.com> To: cherokeegene <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jun 6, 2014 5:40 pm Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] FW: Stokes She doesn't have G Mail Joyce. I do & I don't have any issues w/RW......at least not yet lol -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joyce Gaston Reece Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 6:16 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] FW: Stokes You can tell her it's the gmail, Alli. G-Mail doesn't loop mail from the lists back to the sender. Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Alli :) Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 8:02 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: [CherokeeGene] FW: Stokes I was asked to forward a message as it won't go through for her. So if you guys have any questions about the message below contact fawn directly (addy is below) Alli :) From: Fawn Dessy [mailto:fdessy@aol.com] fdessy @ aol.com (take out the spaces before & after the @) Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 5:50 PM To: iamcheroke@gmail.com Subject: Stokes I hope you remember me on the Cherokee Rogers and Pettitt information from some time back. I am getting emails from the Cherokeegene board, but tried to send the following a couple of days ago, and it appears it did not go through. Can you make the inquiry for me? Thanks! Fawn Dessy I am trying to help a friend locate his ancestors who are Everett and Settie Stokes who were Cherokee and apparently living in some place in OK during the period of the Dawes Rolls. He thought cousins had their CNO cards based on their descent from Everett and Settie, but I do not see these names in Vol II of Cherokee Roots. Is there somewhere else I should be looking? =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know. Been at this since 1970 just not up all the way on dna. Oh by the way ask how many markers. Though I understand there's another option A Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Virginia A <vdach@briarwyke.com> wrote: I was on the phone with Familytreedna this morning. They are continuing the dna collection. I used them to begin with. I think one of the reasons that Ancestry probably quit doing the dna is, that I know a number of people that were confused about who was doing what. Because Ancestry .com owns the Family Tree Maker program, it was easy to assume that FTdna was also a part of their domain, but it isn't. "A nation of Sheep will beget a government of Wolves.: Edward R. Murrow > On 6/6/2014 2:16 PM, Adiene Humble wrote: > Read last night that some test are stopped as of now. Don't remember but was only on ancestry site. Unfortunately not even sure I wasn't on a bogus site. Do I sound paranoid, I am. You do not understand what I went through and still do. Like logins and I'm really careful as I called and talked to ancestry. I had found I had two accounts I didn't make with no profile. > > Getting difficult telling the real thing from the fake > Adiene > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 6, 2014, at 9:28 AM, "Dan M" <mygen2@d-matney.com> wrote: > > Maybe to solve the personal opinions > people can read this web page ( then the 50 comments) on the bottom. > http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2014/06/04/ancestry-com-focuses-on-core-offerings/ > not to mention, the data we used to get free is now being ( sold) on > Ancestry on top of the subscription. When you want a vitals or a census - > they changed how that works too. > Just check this link and see the problem is deeper to the people than a > simple change. > They never considered the people who use those resources. > the Core? > dropping the mt and Y dna? > There are other places out there, just waiting to be popular - as Ancestry > falls into the abyss/ > Comments on this topic are genealogy related and are open the next week. > Dan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> > To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 5:55 AM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes at Ancestry.com > > >> I've known for quite awhile that these 'subsidiaries' were databases they >> purchased over the years BUT also included under the main umbrella of >> Ancestry.com There was no reason to sub to genealogy.com if you have a >> ancestry sub. There was no use to sub to any of them if you had a full >> membership at ancestry. In all actuality what they are doing is putting >> everything possible under one umbrella when it comes to those type things. >> All the 'My Family" databases were included in the public trees on >> ancestry >> and can be accessed from there. >> >> As for the DNA portion. I'd venture to guess that the autosomal testing >> they are doing won't last much longer either. It just doesn't even make >> sense to test with them when so many millions more are testing at >> familytreedna.com The bigger the database the more chance one has for >> matching numbers. >> >> I had autosomal done at ftdna...it took awhile but was able to confirm two >> lineages that I had evidentiary data on previously. When one has over >> 1000 >> cousins listed to one degree or another it takes a whole lot of digging >> but >> can be done. >> >> They aren't removing anything....they're combining things under one >> umbrella. >> >> >> Joyce Gaston Reece > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are correct. Plus it is believed that Mayans migrated to NC by some historians today based on similar data. Also we tend to think coloring of hair and skin determines locations. Not true. Borders of countries inter married so France, for instance had people with light and dark skin, black and blue eyes, not counting raiders, Romans, etc. Plus ship wrecks had men jump ship or floated to areas. It is now believed that other countrymen were in America before Columbus. Watch National Geograpy see the possibilities. Real histories. It's part of genealogy A Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2014, at 7:07 PM, "Alli :\)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> wrote: I think there's a difference between Spaniards & Latino/Mexican. The Mexicans have Indian blood but also have Mayian in there too (which might also be considered indian to some extent) They are just as melted as the "white" people that a lot of them (Mexicans) will dis lol Alli :) -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Evelyn Hutto Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 5:53 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Native DNA Hi Theresa, If I understand your comments correctly, I would like to tell you my experience. All Mexicans did not come from Spain. When the Spanish came over to South and Central America, they were met by 'Indians' just like in North America. There are people in both South and Central America that are of Spanish ancestry, some of other European ancestries, some are of Indian ancestry and some a mixture of all. Their DNA might reflect this. It is a common mistake to generalize and think that all Mexicans are of Spanish ancestry. If you look at them you can see the differences and easily pick out the ones that are more of the Indian ancestry. These are mostly shorter, darker and have dark eyes and hair. There will be exceptions due to mixtures. My mother's aunt married a Mexican of Spanish ancestry and their sons were white and tall. The grandchildren are white, light haired and blue eyed. She was from Puerto Rico. My father is American and my mother is from Puerto Rico of Spanish ancestry. Yet the mtDNA on her Puertorican father is A2 considered Amerindian or from the Taino Indians of the Carribean. His YDNA is R1b1b2 considered very European. We had no idea there was Indian blood in the family. This Spanish ancestry has a lot of blond, blue eyed people. This also should answer your comment about the NA DNA not showing if you have Spanish or Portuguese DNA. My grandfather had both. I do not mean to cause a problem but I just wanted to clarify this generalization. Sincerely, Evelyn =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Exactly. I warned my wife and kids long time ago. She thinks since our old phone works on wi fi, it would not hurt to look into face book. Still, strange things can happen. My cousin is always getting another laptop because of problems, she in into face book all day. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adiene Humble" <ahumble@consolidated.net> To: "Karen" <starknight51@yahoo.com>; <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Changes period > It's also a place for hackers who take ownership of your computer. I know > for a fact. There redirect as well to a site they've set up. I seldom > visit Facebook but the one time in ages I was hacked. He even moved a > copy of the conversation I'd put in a Word program and I suspect some sort > of notification .dll . Word wouldn't respond. He was a Democratic > computer whizz who'd worked in Washington DC behind scenes. His words > not mine. His expertize was verified by someone who knew him. Her words > to me "Be Careful". > > Besides sites are all about money. Who isn't except us researchers. >