I think there is a good possibility you might find your Jesse Lee associated with the following group from the 1851 Drennen Roll: Tahlequah 311: Samuel Lea, Na Kee Lea, Rising Fawn Lea, Alsey Lea, Adam Lea I have no way of telling from this list what the relationships are, but the name Rising Fawn sure caught my eye. It might not mean anything at all, too, but from Jim Hicks' site Thomas Lee had a daughter Nakie that married Thompson Sanders. Their daughter Mary Jane married Jack Lock Langley and their daughter Lucinda Langley Johnson is on the Miller Roll application 11781, roll number 15485. Perhaps her application will go back far enough. Some of them have much more information than was strictly required, some have less. Does anyone have Sandi Garrett's "Only the Names Remain" for Tahlequah district? If so, would you please see if there are any Miller cross references for this group? That might be a big help! Blessings! Susan

James Armstrong Lea c. 1817-1848 is connected to the Nancy Ward line and a Nakie Lee c. 1813-1870 appears to be connected to the Sanders line. In the Ross-McDonald-Shorey line I also found an Esther Lee, daughter of Ned Lee and Ta-ka-taw-nee (a full-blood Cherokee) circa 1848, married to Riley Keys per Eastern Cherokee Application #5195. He died on 5 June 1884 probably at Tahlequah District, Indian Territory and is buried in Ross Cemetary, Park Hill. (I have a photo of his tombstone). In the same line a Margaret Lee, daughter of Thomas Lee and Mary Holmes, c. 1872 married John Edward Gunter who also married Mary Lee, daughter of Walter Lee and Lucinda Brewer, c. 1874. Gunter is buried at Pack-Faulkner Cemetary in Muldrow, OK. There are more Lea's and Lee's but we need to know if any of these are your line first. ~Jerri A Ross-Mulkey-Hembree descendent~ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.

In a message dated 11/23/2005 2:02:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, ten8csi@yahoo.com writes: Which Rising Fawn was it? There is one AKA as Standing Turkey (an error) and one with the anglo name of Major George Lowery Jr ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~This may not mean anything- then again might: We have (in our line) MAJOR LEE(s). This I take as a name- not a title. But there is a possibility he was named after a MAJOR - title(???) Also Many LOWERY's are settled in ROBESON County, next door to SAMPSON County; some who claim Cherokee heritage. And of course I have previously inquired as to why Jesses brother Aaron LEE was buried in the Lowery Trust in ALA. Our line moved often, living in Johnston, Sampson & Cumberland Counties. Nancy Cumberland County NC <<<0>>>

In a message dated 11/23/2005 2:02:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, ten8csi@yahoo.com writes: You can send to the National Archives in Ft. Worth Texas for the record of Jesse Lee since you have the record number. Check out their website. Happy hunting. God and genealogists love those who help themselves. ;) ~Jerri ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks Jeri, I've been at this a long time- It is So-o-o-o hard to get to the (Any Native American) roots (as compared to other), so - slow as it is - progress is being made! I have NO idea which Thomas yet. There has been a history by genealogists that JESSE was the son of Long David LEE of Johnston County- BUT the genealogists are now admitting thewre were TWO lines of LEEs there. In addition I had a time sorting through ALL of the various JESSE LEEs there- even in our own line! I do know their are Lowery connections in there, AND Jesses'; brother Aaron LEE is buried on the Lowery Trust in Burnt Corn ALA. Wado! Nancy <<<0>>>

Thank you Preston; Yes it does help! HAPPY THANKSGIVING! Nancy <<<0>>> In a message dated 11/23/2005 1:44:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, prestonw@ncaddkc.org writes: I'll try: Teamster=a Skill involving the handling of a *team* of horses, oxen, or mules. RG75=Record Group 75 at the National [Archives] E247 Reg of Pmts:=where in record group 75 the payment can be found. D114b=not sure. A reference to where on the site you can find Thomas Lee? Next step? Order the file. Check earlier Rolls/Census' in Indian Territory, 1851, 1880, 1896, Dawes, etc. Hope this helps. Preston

Previously I have posted many inquiries on our JESSE LEE, without much success. We know through family history he was Cherokee, and the name seems to carry on in various searches of the rolls. I tracked JESSEs brothers to ALA after leaving NC. (Aaron went to Burnt Corn ALA, which I have posted info on here before...) I was referred to James Hicks site and I found the following: More About JESSE LEE: 1836 Valuations: Cherokee Co, AL, #29 "3/4 blood" Detachment: Bet. October 19, 1838 - February 02, 1839, 05 Situwakee-Jones, on payroll as Teamster RG75, E247 Reg of Pmts: Abt. 1837, D114b heir of Thomas Lee (Rising Fawn) _http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0 021-0047.html#IND11141REF59_ (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0021-0047.html#IND11141REF59) This states he was a Teamster- which our JESSE has been reported as such, and also a Stage Coach driver. (WHAT exactly is a teamster?) I am uncertain what all these above code numbers mean? Can anyone help explain these and what step to take next?

I'll try: Teamster=a Skill involving the handling of a *team* of horses, oxen, or mules. RG75=Record Group 75 at the National [Archives] E247 Reg of Pmts:=where in record group 75 the payment can be found. D114b=not sure. A reference to where on the site you can find Thomas Lee? Next step? Order the file. Check earlier Rolls/Census' in Indian Territory, 1851, 1880, 1896, Dawes, etc. Hope this helps. Preston (WHAT exactly is a teamster?) I am uncertain what all these above code numbers mean? Can anyone help explain these and what step to take next?

D114b=Doubtful Heir of Rising Fawn. Which Rising Fawn was it? There is one AKA as Standing Turkey (an error) and one with the anglo name of Major George Lowery Jr. Look at each record on Jim Hick's site of anyone mentioned connected with Jesse Lee. Then start looking at census'. Do a Boolean search for "Jesse Lee + Cherokee". Do the same Google for pictures. Look at Family Tree's to give you clues but take nothing for granted. Triple-check everything for yourself. Join ancestry groups and put out your query. Send anyone that seems connected to the name you are searching emails. Go to the LDS site. There are lots of things you can do without waiting for someone to drop the information in your lap. Don't get mad when no one else does what you yourself are capable of doing. Professional genealogists charge lots of money. Be grateful whatever gains you make through free groups, like this one. Most of all, get primary source documents. You can send to the National Archives in Ft. Worth Texas for the record of Jesse Lee since you have the record number. Check out their website. Happy hunting. God and genealogists love those who help themselves. ;) ~Jerri --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Hey all I have come across some information stating my great great grandmother Mary Matilda Lett's brother William Lett has a descendant that has served as a Cherokee Chief or assistant chief. I've seen it as both actually. The problem is I do not have a time frame or a location. Any advice on how to find this? I'm worried because there are some recognized national tribes, some state recognized but national and some that are not recognized at all (of which you all know). SHEESH...any advice would be helpful. The name is Flora Lou Lett. Thanks Sharon Griffin-Cobb

Hello, I am searching for my Cherokee roots. My great-grandfather's name was James Henry Taylor. My grandmother was Carrie Taylor. I am aslo searching for her sister Florence (Flossy) Taylor. Roberta (Hummingbird)

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57. ARCHIBALD4 FOREMAN (RICHARD BARK3, JOHN ANTHONY2, JOHN ANTHONY1) was born Abt. 1823, and died Bef. 1906. He married SARAH WALKING WOLF. She was born Abt. 1830. More About ARCHIBALD FOREMAN: 1851 Drennan roll: Flint Dist, 633 Child of ARCHIBALD FOREMAN and SARAH WOLF is: 227. i. ANDREW5 FOREMAN, b. 1859; d. Bet. 1890 - 1906. 58. ANNIE LAURA4 FOREMAN (RICHARD BARK3, JOHN ANTHONY2, JOHN ANTHONY1) was born March 17, 1827 in Bradley Co, TN, and died February 13, 1897. She married WELLINGTON SHIRLEY, SR November 26, 1852. He was born 1825, and died Bef. 1895. More About ANNIE LAURA FOREMAN: 1851 Drennan roll: Flint Dist, 633 1880 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 2355 as Annie Shirley 1894-96 O.S. payroll: Tahlequah, OK, Page 346 as Annie Shirley (wid) Notes for WELLINGTON SHIRLEY, SR: 1881 and 1891, Judge of Tahlequah District, IT. More About WELLINGTON SHIRLEY, SR: 1851 Old Settler roll: Going Snake, 69 (1896 page 346) 1880 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 2354 Occupation: 1880, Farmer Children of ANNIE FOREMAN and WELLINGTON SHIRLEY are: 228. i. SUSAN ELIZABETH5 SHIRLEY, b. May 05, 1854; d. Aft. 1906. 229. ii. JOHN L SHIRLEY, b. May 06, 1856, CNW; d. 1940, Cherokee Co, OK. iii. SARA R SHIRLEY, b. December 16, 1857; d. October 04, 1858. iv. ELIZA J SHIRLEY, b. November 27, 1859; d. January 20, 1863. v. MARY ANN SHIRLEY, b. October 08, 1860. 230. vi. WELLINGTON W SHIRLEY, JR, b. July 11, 1862; d. November 13, 1900. 231. vii. ANNIE LAURA SHIRLEY, b. April 09, 1865; d. 1930. 229. JOHN L5 SHIRLEY (ANNIE LAURA4 FOREMAN, RICHARD BARK3, JOHN ANTHONY2, JOHN ANTHONY1) was born May 06, 1856 in CNW, and died 1940 in Cherokee Co, OK. He married (1) ADA L STILL Bef. 1879, daughter of SAMUEL STILL and THIRSEY COLVIN. She was born 1861, and died January 09, 1889. He married (2) MARTHA MATTIE C GLENN Bef. 1890, daughter of HENRY GLENN and JENNIE FOREMAN. She was born 1855, and died Aft. 1906. He married (3) AMANDA SANDERS Bef. 1904, daughter of THOMAS SANDERS and MARY SMITH. She was born 1866, and died Aft. 1904. More About JOHN L SHIRLEY: 1880 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 2365 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3484 1894-96 O.S. payroll: Tahlequah, OK, Page 346 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6504, roll# 15587 1906-09 Miller roll: Welling, OK, ap# 13551, roll# 24378 Blood: 1/4 Cherokee Occupation: 1890, Blacksmith More About ADA L STILL: 1880 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 2366 as Ada L Shirley More About MARTHA MATTIE C GLENN: 1880 Census [CN] 1: Going Snake, 939 as Matty Herren "6518" 1880 Census [CN] 2: Tahlequah, 980 as Martha Glenn "6518" 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6518, roll# 15628 as Mattie C Herran 1906-09 Miller roll: Proctor, OK, ap# 3151, roll# 13372 as Mattie C Harren Blood: 1/4 Cherokee More About AMANDA SANDERS: 1880 Census [CN]: Going Snake, 1528 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 1060 as Amanda Shearly 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6503, roll# 15582 as Amanda Sherley Blood: 1/2 Cherokee Children of JOHN SHIRLEY and ADA STILL are: 559. i. LAURA6 SHIRLEY, b. 1879, Tahlequah Dist, CNW; d. Aft. 1906. ii. ELIZA SHIRLEY, b. 1881, Tahlequah Dist, CNW; d. Aft. 1906; m. JESSE GOBACK, July 01, 1904, Tahlequah Dist, CNW; b. 1876, Going Snake Dist, CNW; d. Aft. 1906. More About ELIZA SHIRLEY: 1880 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 2368 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3486 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6504, roll# 15588 1906-09 Miller roll: Welling, OK, ap# 15949, roll# 21710 as Eliza Pritchett Blood: 1/4 Cherokee More About JESSE GOBACK: 1880 Census [CN]: Going Snake, 820 as Jessie Goback 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3884 as Jessie Goback 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 9096, roll# 20862 as Jessie Goback 1906-09 Miller roll: Welling, OK, ap# 4073, roll# 12331 as Jesse Goback Aka (Facts Pg): Jesse Pritchett Blood: Full Blood Cherokee iii. LOVEY SHIRLEY, b. 1884; d. Aft. 1906; m. LUKE WHITFIELD; b. 1881, Texas; d. Aft. 1906. More About LOVEY SHIRLEY: 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3487 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6504, roll# 15589 1906-09 Miller roll: Wauhillau, OK, ap# 15951, roll# 29053 as Lovey Whitfield Blood: 1/4 Cherokee More About LUKE WHITFIELD: 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 339 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 9488, roll# 21551 1906-09 Miller roll: Wauhillau, OK, ap# 1390, roll# 29052 Blood: 1/4 Cherokee iv. THOMAS SHIRLEY, b. 1886; d. February 09, 1901. More About THOMAS SHIRLEY: 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3488 Obituary: February 16, 1901, The Cherokee Advocate, page 2 v. ANNIE SHIRLEY, b. 1888; d. Aft. 1906. More About ANNIE SHIRLEY: 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3489 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6504, roll# 15591 1906-09 Miller roll: Welling, OK, ap# 13561, roll# 24379 Blood: 1/4 Cherokee Children are listed above under (225) Martha Mattie C Glenn. Child of JOHN SHIRLEY and AMANDA SANDERS is: vi. VIOLA6 SHIRLEY, b. 1904. More About VIOLA SHIRLEY: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 3823m, roll# 4261m 1906-09 Miller roll: Welling, OK, ap# 13551, roll# 24380 Blood: 1/8 Cherokee 113. LAURA5 SHIRLEY (JOHN L4, ANNIE LAURA3 FOREMAN, RACHEL2 SEABOLT, ADAM1) was born 1879 in Tahlequah Dist, CNW, and died Aft. 1906. She married GEORGE L TOWNSEND, son of LOONEY TOWNSEND and SARAH ROACH. He was born 1873, and died Aft. 1906. More About LAURA SHIRLEY: 1880 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 2368 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3485 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6781, roll# 29957 as Laura Townsend 1906-09 Miller roll: Proctor, OK, ap# 11416, roll# 27223 as Laura Townsend Blood: Full Blood Cherokee per Dawes (closer to 1/4) More About GEORGE L TOWNSEND: 1880 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 2486 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3924 as George Sullivan 1894-96 O.S. payroll: Tahlequah, Page 47 & 48 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6781, roll# 29956 1906-09 Miller roll: Proctor, OK, ap# 11417, roll# 27222 Blood: Full Blood Cherokee Children of LAURA SHIRLEY and GEORGE TOWNSEND are: i. ADDIE6 TOWNSEND, b. 1896. More About ADDIE TOWNSEND: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6781, roll# 29958 Blood: Full Blood Cherokee per Dawes (closer to 5/8) ii. WALTER TOWNSEND, b. 1898. More About WALTER TOWNSEND: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6781, roll# 29959 Blood: Full Blood Cherokee per Dawes (closer to 5/8) iii. JESSE TOWNSEND, b. 1901. More About JESSE TOWNSEND: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6781, roll# 29960 Blood: Full Blood Cherokee per Dawes (closer to 5/8) Descendants of Thomas Cordery Children of EMMA FOREMAN and MATTHEW WHITFIELD are: i. FANNIE6 WHITFIELD, b. 1879. More About FANNIE WHITFIELD: 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 338 ii. LUKE WHITFIELD, b. 1881, Texas; d. Aft. 1906; m. LOVEY SHIRLEY; b. 1884; d. Aft. 1906. More About LUKE WHITFIELD: 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 339 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 9488, roll# 21551 1906-09 Miller roll: Wauhillau, OK, ap# 1390, roll# 29052 Blood: 1/4 Cherokee More About LOVEY SHIRLEY: 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3487 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6504, roll# 15589 1906-09 Miller roll: Wauhillau, OK, ap# 15951, roll# 29053 as Lovey Whitfield Blood: 1/4 Cherokee iii. BENJAMIN WHITFIELD, b. 1883, Texas; d. Aft. 1906. More About BENJAMIN WHITFIELD: 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 340 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 9488, roll# 21552 1906-09 Miller roll: Wauhillau, OK, ap# 1389, roll# 29049 Blood: 1/4 Cherokee iv. THOMAS WHITFIELD, b. 1888. More About THOMAS WHITFIELD: 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 341 "1-1/2 years old" More About LOVEY SHIRLEY: 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3487 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6504, roll# 15589 1906-09 Miller roll: Wauhillau, OK, ap# 15951, roll# 29053 as Lovey Whitfield Blood: 1/4 Cherokee 231. ANNIE LAURA5 SHIRLEY (ANNIE LAURA4 FOREMAN, RICHARD BARK3, JOHN ANTHONY2, JOHN ANTHONY1) was born April 09, 1865, and died 1930. She married (1) TIMOTHY BROWN HITCHCOCK Abt. 1881, son of ISAAC HITCHCOCK and ELIZABETH DUNCAN. He was born May 19, 1858, and died Bef. 1908. She married (2) JOE CRAIG Abt. 1890. He was born Abt. 1860. She married (3) M J LANE Abt. 1900. He was born February 10, 1863, and died February 21, 1952. More About ANNIE LAURA SHIRLEY: 1880 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 2357 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3940 as Annie L Hitchcock 1894-96 O.S. payroll: Tahlequah, OK, Page 346 as Annie Hitchcock 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6215, roll# 14820 as Annie L Craig 1906-09 Miller roll: Proctor, OK, ap# 3207, roll# 16636 as Annie L Lane Blood: 1/4 Cherokee Burial: Shirley Cemetery More About TIMOTHY BROWN HITCHCOCK: 1880 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 994 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3939 1894-96 O.S. payroll: Vinita, page 272, 273 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 3089, roll# 7643 Blood: 1/4 Cherokee Occupation 1: 1880, School Teacher Occupation 2: 1890, Farmer Children of ANNIE SHIRLEY and TIMOTHY HITCHCOCK are: i. CHARLES DUNCAN6 HITCHCOCK, b. 1882; d. Aft. 1906; m. CAROLINE SANDERS; b. November 16, 1888; d. Aft. 1906. More About CHARLES DUNCAN HITCHCOCK: 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3941 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 3089, roll# 7645 1906-09 Miller roll: Proctor, OK, ap# 24247, roll# 14277 Blood: 3/8 Cherokee [1/4] More About CAROLINE SANDERS: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6745, roll# 16134 1906-09 Miller roll: Proctor, OK, ap# 24246, roll# 14278 as Callie Hitchcock Blood: 1/4 Cherokee Starr's Notes: C432 ii. WILLIAM IRENUS HITCHCOCK, b. 1884; d. Aft. 1906. More About WILLIAM IRENUS HITCHCOCK: 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3942 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 3089, roll# 7646 1906-09 Miller roll: Proctor, OK, ap# 23551, roll# 14282 Blood: 3/8 Cherokee [1/4] iii. EDWARD OWEN HITCHCOCK, b. 1887. More About EDWARD OWEN HITCHCOCK: 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3943 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 3089, roll# 7647 1906-09 Miller roll: Proctor, OK, ap# 3207, roll# 16637 Blood: 3/8 Cherokee [1/4] iv. BABY HITCHCOCK, b. 1890. More About BABY HITCHCOCK: 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3944 as Baby Hitchcock "1 hr old" Children of ANNIE SHIRLEY and JOE CRAIG are: v. BUELL6 CRAIG, b. 1891. More About BUELL CRAIG: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6215, roll# 14821 1906-09 Miller roll: Proctor, OK, ap# 3207, roll# 16638 Blood: 1/8 Cherokee vi. LEONARD CRAIG, b. 1895. More About LEONARD CRAIG: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6215, roll# 14822 1906-09 Miller roll: Proctor, OK, ap# 3207, roll# 16639 Blood: 1/8 Cherokee vii. ANNA MAY CRAIG, b. 1897. More About ANNA MAY CRAIG: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6215, roll# 14823 1906-09 Miller roll: Proctor, OK, ap# 3207, roll# 16640 Blood: 1/8 Cherokee viii. BURLEY CRAIG, b. September 26, 1902; d. May 28, 1967. More About BURLEY CRAIG: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 2609m, roll# 2702m 1906-09 Miller roll: Proctor, OK, ap# 3207, roll# 16641 Blood: 1/8 Cherokee Burial: 1967, Shirley Cem, Eldon, OK Descendants of James Harlan SAMUEL STARR, b. November 24, 1859; d. December 17, 1886; m. MYRA MAYBELLE SHIRLEY, June 05, 1880, Canadian Dist, CNW; b. February 05, 1848, Jasper Co, MO; d. February 03, 1889. More About SAMUEL STARR: 1880 Census [CN]: Canadian, 1331 Clan: Ani'-Gilâ'hi = Twisters, Braids, or Long Hair Clan (Mary Grant) Starr's Notes: D650 Descendants of John Lightfoot, Cap More About MYRA MAYBELLE SHIRLEY: Starr's Notes: D650 NANCY M MORELAND, b. 1879; d. Aft. 1906; m. HOYT SHIRLEY, September 06, 1903, Tahlequah, CNW; b. Abt. 1879. More About NANCY M MORELAND: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 802, roll# 2187 1906-09 Miller roll: Stilwell, OK, ap# 23216, roll# 24381 as Nancy M Sherley Blood: 1/8 Cherokee Descendants of John Downing, Major 141. ISRAEL5 CRITTENDEN (LEWIS4, JAMES3, NANNIE (FAWLING)2 DOWNING, JOHN1) was born 1851, and died Aft. 1902. He married (1) SALLIE SHIRLEY. She was born Abt. 1850. He married (2) CLARA CRITTENDEN. She was born Abt. 1852. He married (3) PERMELIA CAPPS Bef. 1888. She was born 1847. 661. EDWARD6 PETTIT (WILLIAM ZION5, WILLIAM4, THOMAS3, NANNIE (FAWLING)2 DOWNING, JOHN1) was born March 16, 1857. He married (1) SARAH SHIRLEY Bef. 1887. She was born 1856. He married (2) JOANNA LOVELL Bef. 1897. She was born Abt. 1860, and died Abt. 1900. More About EDWARD PETTIT: 1880 Census [CN]: Illinois, 1451 1890 Census [CN]: Illinois, 1241 1894-96 O.S. payroll: Braggs, OK, page 299~303, 412 Occupation: 1890, Farmer More About SARAH SHIRLEY: 1890 Census [CN]: Illinois, 1242 as Sarah Pettit Children of EDWARD PETTIT and SARAH SHIRLEY are: i. WORCHESTER7 PETTIT, b. 1887. More About WORCHESTER PETTIT: 1890 Census [CN]: Illinois, 1243 ii. ELIZA PETTIT, b. April 04, 1889. More About ELIZA PETTIT: 1890 Census [CN]: Illinois, 1244 "2 months old" 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6615, roll# 28960 Blood: 5/32 Cherokee iii. MAXWELL PETTIT, b. September 02, 1891. More About MAXWELL PETTIT: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6722, roll# 28310 (with Zachariah Lillard) (age 9) Blood: 5/16 Cherokee Starr's Notes: A307 b:6/4/1893 [is there another Maxwell Pettit?] Children of EDWARD PETTIT and JOANNA LOVELL are: iv. ELIZABETH7 PETTIT, b. March 01, 1897. More About ELIZABETH PETTIT: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6615, roll# 28961 Blood: 1/32 Cherokee v. BEULAH PETTIT, b. August 01, 1900. 939. AMANDA6 SANDERS (MARY5 SMITH, MARTHA JANE4 DOWNING, JOHN3, GEORGE2, JOHN1) was born 1866, and died Aft. 1904. She married (1) WELLINGTON W SHIRLEY, JR Bef. 1890, son of WELLINGTON SHIRLEY and ANNIE FOREMAN. He was born July 11, 1862, and died November 13, 1900. She married (2) JOHN L SHIRLEY Bef. 1904, son of WELLINGTON SHIRLEY and ANNIE FOREMAN. He was born May 06, 1856 in CNW, and died 1940 in Cherokee Co, OK. More About AMANDA SANDERS: 1880 Census [CN]: Going Snake, 1528 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 1060 as Amanda Shearly 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6503, roll# 15582 as Amanda Sherley Blood: 1/2 Cherokee More About WELLINGTON W SHIRLEY, JR: 1880 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 2356 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 1059 1894-96 O.S. payroll: Tahlequah, OK, Page 346 Burial: Shirley Cemetery Occupation: 1890, Farmer More About JOHN L SHIRLEY: 1880 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 2365 1890 Census [CN]: Tahlequah, 3484 1894-96 O.S. payroll: Tahlequah, OK, Page 346 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6504, roll# 15587 1906-09 Miller roll: Welling, OK, ap# 13551, roll# 24378 Blood: 1/4 Cherokee Occupation: 1890, Blacksmith Children of AMANDA SANDERS and WELLINGTON SHIRLEY are: i. WILLIE W7 SHIRLEY, b. 1890; d. Aft. 1906. More About WILLIE W SHIRLEY: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6503, roll# 15583 1906-09 Miller roll: Proctor, OK, ap# 18144, roll# 24382 Blood: 3/8 Cherokee ii. ANNIE B SHIRLEY, b. 1893. More About ANNIE B SHIRLEY: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6503, roll# 15584 Blood: 3/8 Cherokee iii. MAGGIE L SHIRLEY, b. 1894. More About MAGGIE L SHIRLEY: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 6503, roll# 15585 Blood: 3/8 Cherokee Child of AMANDA SANDERS and JOHN SHIRLEY is: iv. VIOLA7 SHIRLEY, b. 1904. More About VIOLA SHIRLEY: 1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 3823m, roll# 4261m 1906-09 Miller roll: Welling, OK, ap# 13551, roll# 24380 Blood: 1/8 Cherokee Courtesy Jim Hick's fabulicious site! Happy time travels! ~Jerri --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

I'm not sure who it was on this list, but seems I recall someone looking for Shirley information. I recently found some information looking for my ancestors. As most of you know, my family story is that my great great grandmother Mary Lett was cherokee. The best I have determined her mother was a Shirley. If this information is correct, this Shirley lady also had a son who's line claims the same percentage cherokee as my line yet the lines didn't know about each other. As a matter of fact, I've just found this information and the lady researching that line, seems to have disappeared. At any rate, I found some information on Native American Shirley's. I don't see any connection to mine at this time but...I'll keep poking around. Check it out here: http://www.shirleyassociation.com/NewShirleySite/NonMembers/UnitedStates/Lineages/Johnbranch80.html Tootles Sharon Cobb

Ya and just how many people are going to read it thinking it is true> Its hard enough to protect Eagles with out some saying this, not to mention including the BSA. Joke or not there are those who are not informed. Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "sonja" <positive2003@sbcglobal.net> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Re: Now you have something -- Consider the source > Please consider the source ! > the ONION is notorious for printing fantasy as if it were truth > all done in the guise of tongue in cheek sarcasm > in the past, they have printed many rediculously wild stories. > if read closely, it can be discerned > > Dan M <wb@wvi.com> wrote: > To vent about > Read this and pass it on > http://www.theonion.com/content/node/42166 > > Dan M >

I'm still trying to figure out why such an obviously ridiculous article was posted to this list???? It sure doesn't have anything to do with Cherokee genealogy. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: sonja To: CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:53 AM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Re: Now you have something -- Consider the source Please consider the source ! the ONION is notorious for printing fantasy as if it were truth all done in the guise of tongue in cheek sarcasm in the past, they have printed many rediculously wild stories. if read closely, it can be discerned Dan M <wb@wvi.com> wrote: To vent about Read this and pass it on http://www.theonion.com/content/node/42166 Dan M

In a message dated 11/14/2005 10:49:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, s3js@cox.net writes: Greetings! Courtesy of www.accessgenealogy.com we find the following: Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc Thank you Susan. You are always so helpful! Many thanks & Blessings to you... I will pass this onto members of the STRICKLAND List also waiting to see the Card information. I am interested in discovering ALL of our ancestors and their descendants- (not just maternal), so to anyone out there who has any STRICKLAND/STRICKLIN/STRICKLEN/STRIKELAND connections- please write! Also, has anyone heard of ABEL STRICKLAND/ STRICKLIN (of NC) and sons KINSBIRD, KINSMAN, KINUEL? I doubt there are too many persons with these given names! Abel died in FRANKLIN County NC in 1801. Your kindness is greatly appreciated. Nancy J. Capps Cumberland County NC <<<0>>>

Please consider the source ! the ONION is notorious for printing fantasy as if it were truth all done in the guise of tongue in cheek sarcasm in the past, they have printed many rediculously wild stories. if read closely, it can be discerned Dan M <wb@wvi.com> wrote: To vent about Read this and pass it on http://www.theonion.com/content/node/42166 Dan M ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogy related conversations Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html Please Good manors and no flaming others For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com You can also find what you need search the archives or to get off this list via web site below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com

Greetings! Courtesy of www.accessgenealogy.com we find the following: Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc Type Cherokee Rogers Mary J 64 F IW 10010 NR ADAIR BB Cherokee Strickland Elizabeth 0 F 10010 P Cherokee Strickland Isaac 0 M 10010 P This shows Isaac and Elizabeth as Mary J. Rogers' parents. Mary J had originally applied under card D813 (Doubtful813), probably awaiting confirmation of her marriage to whichever Mr. Rogers she married. With there being no roll number on the regular census card, she may have died before a roll number was issued and an allotment could be given her. I do find a Mary J Rogers of the right age on the 1900 census in Cherokee Nation, pages 84 & 84b, Township 22, Supvr Dist 73, ED24, lines 20 and 1-2. Her husband is listed as David and they had been married 44 years, so she would have been eligible as Cherokee by Marriage unless no affidavit could be produced. If she was rejected, she would have been on an R card for the final disposition. Mary J. Rogers was shown as born in GA, both parents born in GA. Go here for the roll information on this family: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0007-0026.html#IND2000REF17 Mary J.;s parents and possibly grandparents should be listed on the application. The Cherokee in this family did not come through her bloodline, though. This is the card for Jacob Strickland as father to Phirena Harris. Apparently his Elizabeth remarried, either after his death or divorce. They were also apparently doubtful in the beginning but were transferred to a regular card with provision of the appropriate documents. Phirena is apparently a corruption of Pyrine. This couple had no children. They are on the 1900 census in Cherokee Nation Township 13, Supvr Dist 73, ED41, page 293b, lines 19-20: Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc Type Cherokee Connelly Elizabeth 0 F 2030 P Cherokee Harris James S 65 M 1/8 2030 5297 BB Cherokee Harris Phirena 60 F IW 2030 248 BB Cherokee Harris Susan 0 F 2030 P Cherokee Harris William 0 M 2030 P Cherokee Strickland Jacob 0 M 2030 P Hope that helps some, Blessings, Susan Reynolds

I have found these members of STRICKLAND Family in this list=- DAWES ENROLLMENT CARDS (pasted below)... Now how can I find the details on the actual cards??? Our STRICKLANDs were originally from the Isle of Wight VA into BERTIE/NASH/EDGECOMB and SAMPSON County NC. Many of our line migrated to GA & ALA around mid 1830s, carrying the same names. My direct line came back to NC and stayed here.There are so-o-o-o many JACOB & ISSAC STRICKLANDs in our line- so how do I identify these in further detail??? And from VA, NC or GA? My grandfathers oral history:We know there is much Cherokee blood in our Stricklands, but no known documentation as until my grandfather- they were mostly illiterate. My grandfather was mostly self taught in literacy) My grandfather looked def. NA and spoke Cherokee phrases and greetings so it cant be too far removed. He always said his mother was also 1/2 Cherokee- but after finding her family of LEEs- [Long David LEE /Jessie LEE line] I cant seem to pin it down on any documentation. (Most Census they were unlisted in race column, and later as white). We know many Cherokee STRICKLANDs are now in Oklahoma, as my grandfather was there back in the 30s-40s (sometime in that period.) . I am not certain how they got there (on the trail???)- again no written records such as bibles are avail with their names. Any of you OK. STRICKLANDs on this list??? My grandfather also told me his family was extremely angry over some of the SAMPSON County/ROBESON County NC Cherokee members who chose to band with the LUMBEE instead of CHEROKEE over recognition/rights in the early 1900s.(Sampson & Robeson are side by side and reading the early Census in ORIGINAL PAGE ORDER, I discovered they were living very close.. I have recently discovered there was an official designation in the early 1900s of THE CHEROKEE INDIANS of ROBESON COUNTY, by the State of NC. Are there any known documents existing of these members? Wado, Nancy <<<0>>> ~~~ National Archives (N.A.R.A.) Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, Texas, who compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its NAIL search site Native American Data for Jacob Strickland Name: Strickland, Jacob Tribe: Cherokee Record Type: enrollment Sex: M Enrollment Type: P (Parent) Card No.: 2030 Native American Data for Jacob Strickland Name: Strickland, Jacob Tribe: Cherokee Record Type: enrollment Sex: M Enrollment Type: P (Parent) Card No.: IW248 Native American Data for Isaac Strickland Name: Strickland, Isaac Tribe: Cherokee Record Type: enrollment Sex: M Enrollment Type: P (Parent) Card No.: 10010 Native American Data for Isaac Strickland Name: Strickland, Isaac Tribe: Cherokee Record Type: enrollment Sex: M Enrollment Type: P (Parent) Card No.: D813