"The Sanders family includes descendents of a full-blood Cherokee woman named Susannah and her white husband, Mitchell Sanders. Susannah did not die until 1851 and is enumerated on the Drennan Roll of that year in Going Snake District... Dr. [Emmett] Starr's errors in this family mainly consist of missing persons, several of whom have been added herein. However, the typographical errors in his book are greatest in the presentation of the SANDERS family; this has caused misidentification on a number of instances of persons who use his 'History [of the Cherokee]' but do not refer to his original notes..." ---David Keith Hampton, 'Cherokee Mixed Bloods', page 400, paragraph 1 and 3. --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.

Hi Sharon, Your related surnames picqued my interest. I found five (5) Susan Sanders in the book 'Cherokee Mixed Bloods' by David Keith Hampton. Can you tell me a little bit more about her? He focus's on the Sanders line in pages 400-478. Thanks. Jerri Direct descendent of Maria Ross & Jonathan Mulkey, Adeline Goins and Lewis A. Mulkey, Isabelle Mulkey & Ferdinand Farmer and Georgia Farmer and Jess Hembree, after the Removal all citizens of the Cherokee Nation. Sharon wrote: I have a David Reed born about 1830 in Tennessee. I did find him in 1851 Cherokee roll in Going Snake District, Cherokee Nation (now Oklahoma) #289 David Reed Linsey William Susan Sanders --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.

I agree, the list has been slow......... So I will post one of my lines, that I have been stuck on for awhile.............. I have a David Reed born about 1830 in Tennessee. I did find him in 1851 Cherokee roll in Going Snake District, Cherokee Nation (now Oklahoma) #289 David Reed Linsey William Susan Sanders He was an emigrant Cherokee. David's parents: William and Susan Reed... their children: (1)Elizabeth A. Reed b 1827 married Walter Downing (Cherokee) and Jesse Thompson (Cherokee) (2)Johnson Reed (b abt 1824) married Ka-yoo-geh (Malinda Linnie Catcher) (3)David Reed ( b abt 1830)married Linsey (4)Nancy Reed b ca 1823 married Barney (aka Berry) Davis (5)Nellie Reed b 1818 married Wesley Davis Sharon Indian Surnames:<*> Blythe <*> Buffington {+} Crittenden (+) Clingan (+) Colston <*> Downing <*> Emory<*> Fields <*> Grant(+) Harlan (+) Hilderbrand (+) Hicks <*> Holland <+> Jackson <+>Lovelady<*> McDaniel <*> Moore <+> Mongrain <*> Pappin/Papin <*> Reed <*> Sanders <+> Vann <*> Ward <*> Woodward <>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><

I have always been told that we had cherokee blood. So the native blood could be coming in with a great-grandmother. Thank you for taking the time to do the look-up I will keep searching susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Lynn" <ten8csi@yahoo.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:29 PM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] RE: Bright > Hi Susan, > > No Brights in Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia or Alabama. Many of the > names in the 'Those Who Cried, the 16,000' are not Anglo. Do you know > their tribal names? > > Jerri > > > --------------------------------- > > What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >

Would you mind checking for the last name Bright, in the bood Those Who Cried Thank you susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Lynn" <ten8csi@yahoo.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] Is this list up and running > Osiyo Glee, Grandma and other friends, > > Yes, the list is quiet. I guess we're all gearing up for Spring! :) I > recently received Phillip Mulkey Hunt's book titled 'Mulkeys of America' > if anyone has any Mulkey questions. I also obtained a book called 'Those > Who Cried, the 16,000' if anyone needs a look-up. I'm still plugging along > with my Cherokee Language II lessons...and looking forward to blossoming > dogwoods and Redbud! > > donadagohvi > Jerri > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >

Hi Susan, No Brights in Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia or Alabama. Many of the names in the 'Those Who Cried, the 16,000' are not Anglo. Do you know their tribal names? Jerri --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos

Nope just slow ;) Alli >I have not gotten anything from this list for a very long time. Is there > something wrong or did I get put off the list without my knowledge? > Glee

Osiyo Glee, Grandma and other friends, Yes, the list is quiet. I guess we're all gearing up for Spring! :) I recently received Phillip Mulkey Hunt's book titled 'Mulkeys of America' if anyone has any Mulkey questions. I also obtained a book called 'Those Who Cried, the 16,000' if anyone needs a look-up. I'm still plugging along with my Cherokee Language II lessons...and looking forward to blossoming dogwoods and Redbud! donadagohvi Jerri --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail.

I have not gotten anything from this list for a very long time. Is there something wrong or did I get put off the list without my knowledge? Glee There is nothing wrong except that people are not active for some reason or other. I don't think people are working on their genealogy much right now. grandma

I have not gotten anything from this list for a very long time. Is there something wrong or did I get put off the list without my knowledge? Glee

Got a giggle out of this birth announcement. Thought some on this list might, too. Vinita Indian Chieftain, February 7, 1884: A little stranger, feminine in gender, put in an appearance on Wednesday last, at the residence of our boss carpenter, Darius E. Ward, who is doing what he can to prevent the total extinction of the Cherokee race. (newspaper microfilm, Oklahoma Historical Society). Genealogy Info: The stranger would be Clara E. Ward, born on or close to January 29, 1884, listed as his 5th child in the book Springplace Moravian Mission and the Ward Family of the Cherokee Nation, by Muriel H. Wright. Emmet Starr does not list her in Darius’ biographical sketch page, probably because she died before age 16. Darius continued to do what he could, having 8 more children from 1885 – 1901. R. Becker --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail.

Ok Why would I yell <G>? Yer the one paying the bills for all your URLS <G>!!! Thanks for sharing. I might take a look at the counter for my genealogy pages. Dan M www.wvi.com/~wb http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Genealogy_Chat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <judy@genealogysurnames.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:11 AM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] RE: A few new pages > I have added some new content that should be of value to the readers > > Indian Warriors http://www.nanations.com/indian_warriors.htm These are short bois on several Indian Warriors from many tribes > > The Early History and Names of the Arapaho http://www.nanations.com/early_arapaho.htm This provides the name the Arapaho were know by from other tribes. > > For any of you who have your own webpages we now have a free counter for your webpages Statisfy http://www.statisfy.com/ (Dan, Please don't yell at me for this one) > > Please pass this onto your friends > > Thanks > Judy > > Home Page http://www.itsjudy.com > Canadian Genealogy http://www.canadiangenealogy.net/ > Garden Herbs http://www.gardenherbs.org/ > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com

I am in desperate need of help. I am looking for any information about my gggrandma Sylvia (BLACK) Kern. I don't have any information on her family. This saddens me because all I have is a picture of her, it feels like we have no past. My gggrandmother Sylvia (Silva) BLACK b. 1855 was a Cherokee, from Attala county, Mississippi. My mom told me that she was "adopted" by a doctor.

I have added some new content that should be of value to the readers Indian Warriors http://www.nanations.com/indian_warriors.htm These are short bois on several Indian Warriors from many tribes The Early History and Names of the Arapaho http://www.nanations.com/early_arapaho.htm This provides the name the Arapaho were know by from other tribes. For any of you who have your own webpages we now have a free counter for your webpages Statisfy http://www.statisfy.com/ (Dan, Please don't yell at me for this one) Please pass this onto your friends Thanks Judy Home Page http://www.itsjudy.com Canadian Genealogy http://www.canadiangenealogy.net/ Garden Herbs http://www.gardenherbs.org/

i am Preston joyce reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "Preston Washington" <prestonw@ncaddkc.org> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:08 AM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] "Genealogy of Old & New Cherokee Indian Families" by George Morrison Bell, Sr. > FYI, reference to an exchange of e-mails relative to the possible > reprinting of the above book: > > Preston > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` > Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 9:04 PM > Subject: "Genealogy of Old & New Cherokee Indian Families" by George > Morrison Bell, Sr. > > > I hope everyone had a nice Christmas. > > I recently received an email from Jay Hannah who led me to Watie Bell > and his email address. > > Watie is going to reprint his dad's book. > > He needs more people to say they are interested in the book before he > reprints it. I do not have a copy and would love one. The book > according to JC Thompson is the basis for most of the ones who are > buried at Mt. Tabor Cemetery. Please contact Watie Bell if you are > interested in a book. See his email below - > > Merry Christmas! > > Paul Ridenour > > ============================= > Paul Ridenour............Thank you for your letter. > > I have gone to several publishers about reprint of my Dad's book and as > yet have not made a decision. The price will be $50.00 plus S&H. I > hear that we will have another postal price increase in January, so I > think the S&H will be in the neighborhood of $10 thereabouts. > > I would like to have more response from people before I go to print. I > will run another ad next month in the Cherokee Phoenix newspaper in > Tahlequah, OK. We should have a better handle on when the time of > completion will happen. > > Thank you for the info about the Mt. Tabor cemetery. I believe Dad > visited that area at one time. > > Respectfully, > > Watie Bell > > bellwatie@wmconnect.com > > 1808 SE Crescent Drive > Bartlesville, OK 74006 > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com >

Paul I'm interested in *.*Old and New Still looking for my Schoemaker/Plummer connections Shirley

Hi Paul, I just wanted to thank you for sharing this information on the book of Genealogy of Old and New Cherokee Families. I am soo excited and can't wait to order one, I have already emailed Watie. Again thank you, Tonya ----- Original Message ----- From: "Preston Washington" <prestonw@ncaddkc.org> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:08 AM Subject: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] "Genealogy of Old & New Cherokee Indian Families" by George Morrison Bell, Sr. > FYI, reference to an exchange of e-mails relative to the possible > reprinting of the above book: > > Preston > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` > Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 9:04 PM > Subject: "Genealogy of Old & New Cherokee Indian Families" by George > Morrison Bell, Sr. > > > I hope everyone had a nice Christmas. > > I recently received an email from Jay Hannah who led me to Watie Bell > and his email address. > > Watie is going to reprint his dad's book. > > He needs more people to say they are interested in the book before he > reprints it. I do not have a copy and would love one. The book > according to JC Thompson is the basis for most of the ones who are > buried at Mt. Tabor Cemetery. Please contact Watie Bell if you are > interested in a book. See his email below - > > Merry Christmas! > > Paul Ridenour > > ============================= > Paul Ridenour............Thank you for your letter. > > I have gone to several publishers about reprint of my Dad's book and as > yet have not made a decision. The price will be $50.00 plus S&H. I > hear that we will have another postal price increase in January, so I > think the S&H will be in the neighborhood of $10 thereabouts. > > I would like to have more response from people before I go to print. I > will run another ad next month in the Cherokee Phoenix newspaper in > Tahlequah, OK. We should have a better handle on when the time of > completion will happen. > > Thank you for the info about the Mt. Tabor cemetery. I believe Dad > visited that area at one time. > > Respectfully, > > Watie Bell > > bellwatie@wmconnect.com > > 1808 SE Crescent Drive > Bartlesville, OK 74006 > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >

another thought, could SOMEONE else have written the letter for Chief Jolly ? and used the words he felt appropriate? Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Walknstx@aol.com> To: <CherokeeGene-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGeneCommunity] John Jolly > > In a message dated 12/31/2005 11:42:47 AM Central Standard Time, > jgreece@earthlink.net writes: > > Thanks for a good post. I have the same question as Joy did. Why would > he > say wigwam? The Cherokee never lived in them. They lived in wood or > earthen daubed dwellings. These are fully described in many writings of > the > Cherokee. > > > > I know that the term wigwam is not usually attached to the Cherokee:) > > BUT, Dub West was referencing a letter written by John Jolly to Andrew > Jackson, dated December 3, 1829. I will assume that West transcribed a > letter he > found. > > I don't know for sure which Archive the letter was found in, but he cites > the date as 12/3/1829, and I bet that could be found in the National > Archives. > > Suzy > > > > > > > ==== CherokeeGene Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogy related conversations > Your supporting website http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee1.html > Please Good manors and no flaming others > For Culture, ridges; bumps; skin tones; or Language lessons Please visit > CHEROKEE-L-request@rootsweb.com > You can also find what you need search the archives > or to get off this list via web site below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CherokeeGene.html > Listowner = CherokeeGene-admin@rootsweb.com > >

FYI, reference to an exchange of e-mails relative to the possible reprinting of the above book: Preston ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: "Genealogy of Old & New Cherokee Indian Families" by George Morrison Bell, Sr. I hope everyone had a nice Christmas. I recently received an email from Jay Hannah who led me to Watie Bell and his email address. Watie is going to reprint his dad's book. He needs more people to say they are interested in the book before he reprints it. I do not have a copy and would love one. The book according to JC Thompson is the basis for most of the ones who are buried at Mt. Tabor Cemetery. Please contact Watie Bell if you are interested in a book. See his email below - Merry Christmas! Paul Ridenour ============================= Paul Ridenour............Thank you for your letter. I have gone to several publishers about reprint of my Dad's book and as yet have not made a decision. The price will be $50.00 plus S&H. I hear that we will have another postal price increase in January, so I think the S&H will be in the neighborhood of $10 thereabouts. I would like to have more response from people before I go to print. I will run another ad next month in the Cherokee Phoenix newspaper in Tahlequah, OK. We should have a better handle on when the time of completion will happen. Thank you for the info about the Mt. Tabor cemetery. I believe Dad visited that area at one time. Respectfully, Watie Bell bellwatie@wmconnect.com 1808 SE Crescent Drive Bartlesville, OK 74006

Hi Deb, Are any of your Butlers related to Pretty Boy Floyd? I am researching their line for my Mom-in-Law. There is a definate connection through her line of Butlers. Thanks. Jerri --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less