I have to say something that so many people don't understand. The Cherokee people in Oklahoma have never lived on a reservation. Please do not refer to their land as this. It can be very insulting to a Cherokee who have their proof of their Cherokee blood and have lived in the Cherokee Nation all their lives. I am not being ugly just suggesting that you please refrain from this term. It will save you at lot of heartache from the people who help you find your roots. Also when researching your Cherokee roots keep an open mind. Sometimes what you have been told is family lore and what you find might not be what you have been told. I wish you all the best in finding your Cherokee roots. Since you live in Georgia I am sure the answers you are looking for will come to you. My third grandmother was born in Habersham Co., Georgia. Her parents James Ward Sr. and Lucy Haynie Ward left the Cherokee Nation East shortly after she was born and came to Arkansas in the early 1820's. James and Lucy are buried at Siloam Springs, Arkansas and Rosanna Ward Tittle is buried in Vinita, Craig Co., Oklahoma. She is registered on the Old Settlers Roll. Her son James Marion Tittle and his daughter Jessie A. Tittle Anderson is registered on the Dawes Roll. I also have my other third Grandmother registered on the Dawes Roll, Edith Caroline Rogers Prather. She is registered under the name of Caroline Prather. Her husband was white and his line goes back to Maryland and then on to England. I mention this as I see you have someone in your line with a middle name Prather. The Prather line has tons of history in England. If you are interested I can give you a website on the Prather line. James Marion Tittle married Annie Henrietta Prather and she was also Cherokee through her mother E. Caroline Rogers Prather. Annie died in 1893 so she was not on the Dawes Roll. I am very fortunate that my Cherokee lines are well documented and I have been able to find them. I know their were families that did not have to documentation. In order to be on the Dawes Roll you had to lived in the Cherokee Nation. There are three Federally recognized Cherokee tribes - Cherokee Nation , United Keetoowah Band of the Cherokee Indians, and the Eastern Cherokees. All others are not Federally recognized. I wish you all the luck in finding your roots. Keep looking and someday you will find the truth. donadagohvi, Kathleen Forshey-Burns On Sunday, November 2, 2014 2:08 AM, Beth Golden via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: Great idea, Dan! thanks! I'm Beth Golden, living in GA. My 2nd great grandmother, Mary Ann Bell Mobley Orr wrote to my grandmother that she was 1/4 Cherokee and according to my aunt, the family was quite proud of this heritage, and visited their family on the Rez in OK. I've yet to find the documentation. Mary Ann's ancestry (partial) is below. I too welcome the discussion and hope to meet long lost cousins! Also, if you don't know, NARA website has been completely revamped for researching NA roots. I've not started exploring, but looking forward to it. http://www.archives.gov/research/native-americans/ all the best, Beth Here's Mary Ann's info: 1. Mary Ann BELL: born 9 Apr 1836 in Cherokee County, AL; died 2 Aug 1922 in McLennan County, TX. She married Alexander Franklin MOBLEY about 1857 probably in Cedartown, Polk, GA. AF died during the Civil War and Mary Ann remarried John ORR, a widower, in Cherokee County, GA. After one of her sons got in trouble with the law, they went to TX to escape prosecution. Her parents were: 2. John N BELL: born 17 Feb 1789 in Old Pendleton, Pickens, South Carolina, United States; died 24 Mar 1862 in Cedartown, Polk Co., GA. 3. Elizabeth ODELL: born Mar 1790 in Old Pendleton, Pickens, South Carolina, United States; died 25 May 1867 in Forney, Cherokee, AL. Her grandparents were: 4. John BEALL: born 23 Nov 1760 in Prince Georges, Maryland, USA; died 1804 in Wilkes County, Georgia, USA. 5. Mary: born abt 1710; died abt 1810. I believe that Mary will be the Cherokee connection, as from what I can gather so far, the others were not Native American. 6. John Prather ODELL: born 1755 in Frederick, Frederick, Maryland, USA; married 1782 in South Carolina, USA; died 1 Oct 1836 in Pickens, South Carolina, USA. 7. Mary BOURLAND: born 1755 in Pendleton, Anderson, South Carolina, USA. =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Great idea, Dan! thanks! I'm Beth Golden, living in GA. My 2nd great grandmother, Mary Ann Bell Mobley Orr wrote to my grandmother that she was 1/4 Cherokee and according to my aunt, the family was quite proud of this heritage, and visited their family on the Rez in OK. I've yet to find the documentation. Mary Ann's ancestry (partial) is below. I too welcome the discussion and hope to meet long lost cousins! Also, if you don't know, NARA website has been completely revamped for researching NA roots. I've not started exploring, but looking forward to it. http://www.archives.gov/research/native-americans/ all the best, Beth Here's Mary Ann's info: 1. Mary Ann BELL: born 9 Apr 1836 in Cherokee County, AL; died 2 Aug 1922 in McLennan County, TX. She married Alexander Franklin MOBLEY about 1857 probably in Cedartown, Polk, GA. AF died during the Civil War and Mary Ann remarried John ORR, a widower, in Cherokee County, GA. After one of her sons got in trouble with the law, they went to TX to escape prosecution. Her parents were: 2. John N BELL: born 17 Feb 1789 in Old Pendleton, Pickens, South Carolina, United States; died 24 Mar 1862 in Cedartown, Polk Co., GA. 3. Elizabeth ODELL: born Mar 1790 in Old Pendleton, Pickens, South Carolina, United States; died 25 May 1867 in Forney, Cherokee, AL. Her grandparents were: 4. John BEALL: born 23 Nov 1760 in Prince Georges, Maryland, USA; died 1804 in Wilkes County, Georgia, USA. 5. Mary: born abt 1710; died abt 1810. I believe that Mary will be the Cherokee connection, as from what I can gather so far, the others were not Native American. 6. John Prather ODELL: born 1755 in Frederick, Frederick, Maryland, USA; married 1782 in South Carolina, USA; died 1 Oct 1836 in Pickens, South Carolina, USA. 7. Mary BOURLAND: born 1755 in Pendleton, Anderson, South Carolina, USA.

I have his card #22248 and having trouble finding his life story. His brothers are listed with a different degree of "blood". I was hoping, as always, someone might say "he's my ancestor, also". (I like finding new cousins) On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Alli :) via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Lemuel's name looks really familiar. > > do you already have the application or are you needing it or ??? > > Alli > > -----Original Message----- > From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David STEVENS via > Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 1:17 PM > To: Dan M; cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Nov > > I'm David STEVENS, great great grandson of #22248 Lemuel Dugan LONG 1850 - > 1924 > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all"

Lemuel's name looks really familiar. do you already have the application or are you needing it or ??? Alli -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David STEVENS via Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 1:17 PM To: Dan M; cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Nov I'm David STEVENS, great great grandson of #22248 Lemuel Dugan LONG 1850 - 1924

I'm David STEVENS, great great grandson of #22248 Lemuel Dugan LONG 1850 - 1924 On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Dan M via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I would like to get some conversations going here. > Any one doing their NA genealogy, is welcome to chat about that and what > locations your working on. > Maybe some would like to Introduce them selves and who they are related > to > in the Cherokee. > Or those still trying to land a real solid clue how they fit into the > Cherokee are all welcome to join in. > Since folks are all so quiet, maybe some chats will lead into some more > solid exchanges. > Dan M - admin > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all"

I would like to get some conversations going here. Any one doing their NA genealogy, is welcome to chat about that and what locations your working on. Maybe some would like to Introduce them selves and who they are related to in the Cherokee. Or those still trying to land a real solid clue how they fit into the Cherokee are all welcome to join in. Since folks are all so quiet, maybe some chats will lead into some more solid exchanges. Dan M - admin

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Hi, I'm working on my son-in-law's KELLUM ancestry and tracking down the CARTER family and their Tsalagi connection. Hoping to find information on Julia Carter Strickland and her ancestry, especially any Cherokee tribe links. I have a picture of her daughter Wincie Mentora nee' Strickland Jones standing with her husband John Henry JONES in which she has a feather in her hair in the Cherokee style. Also finding it curious that female descendants have continued using the names Wincie and Mentora ... any ideas? Julia b. 1835 d/o George and Mehany Wincie (nee' Waller) CARTER in GA 1850 lived with parents in Monroe Co., GA 1851 m. Solomon STRICKLAND Butts Co., GA 1860 - 1870 lived in Tallapoosa Co., AL I've found quite a few Carters listed on the rolls, but having a hard time tracking down family members to see if any are related. Any assistance is greatly appreciated! Beth Decatur, GA

Read "Heart of the storm by Lindsay McKenna which contains the power of medicine men and beliefs of esp Cherokee and spiritual practice involved in NA ceremonial pipes. Fiction I'm sure but truth of the NA customs and religious practice. Very interesting Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Joy King via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: The Indigenous Law Portal brings together collection materials from the Law Library of Congress as well as links to tribal websites and primary source materials found on the Web. The portal is based on the structure of the Library of Congress Classification schedule for Law (Class K), specifically the Law of the Indigenous Peoples in the Americas (Classes KIA-KIP: North America). Additional info here: http://blogs.loc.gov/law/2014/07/introducing-the-indigenous-law-portal/ Joy =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Indigenous Law Portal brings together collection materials from the Law Library of Congress as well as links to tribal websites and primary source materials found on the Web. The portal is based on the structure of the Library of Congress Classification schedule for Law (Class K), specifically the Law of the Indigenous Peoples in the Americas (Classes KIA-KIP: North America). Additional info here: http://blogs.loc.gov/law/2014/07/introducing-the-indigenous-law-portal/ Joy

I am letting people know there is hosting for people who write or want to list websites on my history site. I plan to be making it better as time goes on. There are No logos to post on your site, no lists to join no committees to answer to, just good clean links and web sites coming up as we go. I am planning to make a web ring for it out of a picture I have on my freedmen site, with Red Cloud and the fires in the background - it will be called ( out if the flames) Dan M founder http://www.d-matney.com/ AND NACHP Northern American Continent History Project http://www.northernamericancontinenthistory.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy King via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> To: "CherokeeGene" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 11:33 AM Subject: [CherokeeGene] Introducing the Indigenous Law Portal > The Indigenous Law Portal brings together collection materials from the > Law Library of Congress as well as links to tribal websites and primary > source materials found on the Web. The portal is based on the structure of > the Library of Congress Classification schedule for Law (Class K), > specifically the Law of the Indigenous Peoples in the Americas (Classes > KIA-KIP: North America). > > Additional info here: > http://blogs.loc.gov/law/2014/07/introducing-the-indigenous-law-portal/ > > Joy > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for this. Dan M founder http://www.d-matney.com/ AND NACHP Northern American Continent History Project http://www.northernamericancontinenthistory.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy King via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> To: "CherokeeGene" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 11:33 AM Subject: [CherokeeGene] Introducing the Indigenous Law Portal > The Indigenous Law Portal brings together collection materials from the > Law Library of Congress as well as links to tribal websites and primary > source materials found on the Web. The portal is based on the structure of > the Library of Congress Classification schedule for Law (Class K), > specifically the Law of the Indigenous Peoples in the Americas (Classes > KIA-KIP: North America). > > Additional info here: > http://blogs.loc.gov/law/2014/07/introducing-the-indigenous-law-portal/ > > Joy > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

_______Supposedly Archiibald Thompson was a relative of my Thompson family, descendants of Matthew Thompson of Virginia. Archibald was the son of Choctaw Margaret McCoy, If you Google Thompson McCoy Choctaw you will find a ton of information and clarification of the lines of the Texas Cherokee and the Choctaw. Kathie ________________________________ From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] on behalf of cherokeegene-request@rootsweb.com [cherokeegene-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 3:00 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 119 Today's Topics: 1. Re: CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 115 (Adiene Humble) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 00:22:48 -0500 From: "Adiene Humble" <ahumble@consolidated.net> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 115 To: "R BULLER" <hisbride@cableone.net>, <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <95B9811967864E2B81EE2614F182E49F@Toshiba1PC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I notice that Thompson was listed and my mom's great grandmother was Nancy Ellen Thompson Weeks from LA. Her sister married mom's great granduncle but must have died shortly after because she James Z Weeks remarried to Sarah Jane Cooper two years later. They settled in Newton Co, TX around 1834 or so and was in LA before that. Their sisters, Isabelle married Moses Daniels, and Mary married an Evans, Elizabeth married Robert James Alexander. Nancy Ellen Thompson, my line, date of birth was written in an old bible which I have these pages from that bible listing the names, dates, spouses, etc. I'd love to connect this line to their families. Their father was John Thompson (1813 MS) who I believe was the son of Archibald Thomson (745 TN( and lived next door to them in the 1850 census.. Any connection, please let me know. Would be happy to share copy of bible records. I believe that these families came west early and through MS and the families settled around them continued on to East Texas. Robert Weeks daughters married Phelps, Conner, and Coopers. His father was Zedock Weeks. The Weeks lived in GA, NC and SC so they came West very early. Adiene -----Original Message----- From: R BULLER via Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 10:58 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 115 Re: [Cherokee Genes] listing of names I have Lightfoot, Adair, Fitzgerald, Taylor for the most part on the side having to do with native American/Cherokee. On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 2:00 AM, <cherokeegene-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Listing names (Alli :)) > 2. Re: Listing names (David STEVENS) > 3. Re: How did "Jesus" get the Y? (David STEVENS) > 4. Re: Listing names (Alli :)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 20:49:52 -0600 > From: "Alli :\)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Listing names > To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <025901cfa2fc$1e9bd0a0$5bd371e0$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have a Rogers in my Johnson tree......I forget the name but did any of > your ever go to Okla? > > I'll dig out the info & get the actual names > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan M [mailto:mygen2@d-matney.com] > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 8:01 PM > To: Alli :); cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Listing names > > Well. > I have > Rogers > Applegate > Shortridge > Cooper > McCulley > for a start. > Dan > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 23:12:22 -0600 > From: David STEVENS <david.stevensturner@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Listing names > To: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com>, cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAKpu1OvtfLx7hDM0Qt=7609eRjrVZ6+yM5AXXt444tbAu8kA= > w@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > My greatgrandmother was Lottie Mahala LONG SMILEY (and a bunch of other > names), the daughter of Lemuel LONG but she has no birth record so how do > I > prove she's the daughter of her father ? > My names are: LONG, Maples > DAUGHERTY, James > CHAMBERS, > SMILEY > DAUGHERTY, James (different location in the Carolinas but possibly the > same > as above) > > ? > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Alli :) via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > Its not a very good subject line, but my brain is a little bit over > heated > > from the heat & congested from all the range fire smoke that has taken > over > > my area..looks like we're in some big city w/smog, except for us its > smoke > > :( > > > > > > > > Anyway....Its been a little while since I've been active in any way let > > alone helpful. So, I thought I'd take a few minutes out to see if we > could > > get things moving a bit by posting the names that are *supposedly* > > connected > > to the Cherokee tribe & see if anyone else would like to post their > > brick > > walls. I'm sure we've had some newbies join, so let's get everyone drug > out > > of the cobwebs & dusted off to see if anyone connects to anyone or if > > someone can help another member...like the good ol' days :) > > > > > > > > My *connection* is: > > > > T-h-o-m-p-s-o-n * A-d-a-m-s * P-h-a-r-i-s-s (some variety in the > spelling) > > > > > > They were all in the North Carolina, Tenn area before moving to > > Missouri, > > Arkansas & eventually Okla. > > > > > > > > I have recently became an in-home caregiver for an Elderly couple > > (mainly > > the husband), he is part Indian (I don't know his %) & of course don't > > remember the tribe off hand. But he's got some really cool family photos > & > > antiques & I think she might also have some indian blood too, so I'm > really > > excited to pick their brains about this stuff & see if they can help me, > > she's already offered too. YEAH!! > > > > > > > > Anyway...who are y'all searching & where are you stuck at? > > > > > > > > Alli :) > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; > > and > > sort fact from (fiction). > > List archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > "In GOD we trust" > "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all" > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 23:19:29 -0600 > From: David STEVENS <david.stevensturner@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] How did "Jesus" get the Y? > To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAKpu1OuwwjsANc6-CZrJzeuVbRShCxAUJh_YBkdHA9d204J= > BQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Maybe the method of "creation" involves a mother and a father ???? > > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 11:22 AM, R BULLER <hisbride@cableone.net> wrote: > > > Then in that case, how did Adam get the y? ;) > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; > > and > > sort fact from (fiction). > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > List archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > > Dual admin. > > Dan and Joyce > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > "In GOD we trust" > "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all" > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 00:15:52 -0600 > From: "Alli :\)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Listing names > To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <040d01cfa318$e5811ba0$b08352e0$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I?ve seen similar names??.but Lemuel Long sticks out. > > > > It depends on the year that she was born. > > > There?s census records, church records, school records. I?m assuming she > was born at home. > > There?s also death records & marriage records. > > > > My grandmother was born at home & her father had to write a letter stating > that fact in order for her to attend school. She was born in 1906-7 > > > so there might be something similar for yours, depending on her year of > birth. :) > > > > Not very helpful, but hopefully it is some what :) > > > > From: David STEVENS [mailto:david.stevensturner@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 11:12 PM > To: Alli :); cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Listing names > > > > My greatgrandmother was Lottie Mahala LONG SMILEY (and a bunch of other > names), the daughter of Lemuel LONG but she has no birth record so how do > I > prove she's the daughter of her father ? > > My names are: LONG, Maples > > DAUGHERTY, James > > CHAMBERS, > > SMILEY > > DAUGHERTY, James (different location in the Carolinas but possibly the > same as above) > > > > ? > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CHEROKEEGENE list administrator, send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the CHEROKEEGENE mailing list, send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 115 > ******************************************** > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). 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Aman Sent from my iPhone On Jul 22, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Dan M via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: Lots of places talk about the older dna and trying to find the tracing of people. One of the greatest challenges is the fact that the people came from many places even before becoming native Americans. One of those traces is the one that claims one common ancestor in Ethiopia. Another is claiming the finding of the giants, but all the evidence is gone by some mystery. Some others are just names of people. Ever wonder where * your * name began and why or how? So many people want to claim some native now days when once, no one wanted to know, or have it told that they were of NA ancestors. Some today, still dont want it known. Its a hard challenge to get to find out which of the people are related to whom. Also some of the DNA tests, I dont think are really doing what was expected unless when You find a DNA result and it looks like your not going to prove NA. Think about a few things. 1. If I have Euro DNA ? Maybe my Euro people came here or traveled with, the same people who became NA? 2. look up Roanoke settlers, they merged with the Indians and lived with them so long, they think they are Indians even tho the dna says not. But in current pow wow you can see that it looks like they are not even close. I think I posted that u tube documentary while back. Dan =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some people; dont realize that to become a Native American, they had to come from someplace else. This is why some of the DNA dont add up. There were so many migrations that the best thing to do, is get as far in your genealogy as possible and find out the best you can about how you may be connected. Like I mentioned the Roanoke go to U tube and type it in, you will find it. Lots of people came to the Indian life many ways and not all were by blood. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen To: Adiene Humble ; Dan M ; cherokeegene@rootsweb.com ; cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] History of past people Real quick, here's a list of FREE google books (can download to your computer) most written in the early 1800's concerning Native American Indians & beliefs including white man's belief & there's reasons for believing that they are part of the 10 Lost Tribes of who they were and much more. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=native+american+indians+lost+tribes+of+israel&tbm=bks&tbs=bkv:r On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:26 PM, Adiene Humble via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: Aman Sent from my iPhone On Jul 22, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Dan M via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: Lots of places talk about the older dna and trying to find the tracing of people. One of the greatest challenges is the fact that the people came from many places even before becoming native Americans. One of those traces is the one that claims one common ancestor in Ethiopia. Another is claiming the finding of the giants, but all the evidence is gone by some mystery. Some others are just names of people. Ever wonder where * your * name began and why or how? So many people want to claim some native now days when once, no one wanted to know, or have it told that they were of NA ancestors. Some today, still dont want it known. Its a hard challenge to get to find out which of the people are related to whom. Also some of the DNA tests, I dont think are really doing what was expected unless when You find a DNA result and it looks like your not going to prove NA. Think about a few things. 1. If I have Euro DNA ? Maybe my Euro people came here or traveled with, the same people who became NA? 2. look up Roanoke settlers, they merged with the Indians and lived with them so long, they think they are Indians even tho the dna says not. But in current pow wow you can see that it looks like they are not even close. I think I posted that u tube documentary while back. Dan =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to add CherokeePrayer@yahoogroups.com would be a great place to talk about this with other people who are there to talk. Also has one of the top people in Bible knowing on the list. Any one who would like to join the Bible list, please send me a note dmatney@gmail.com I will add you direct. Dan

Real quick, here's a list of FREE google books (can download to your computer) most written in the early 1800's concerning Native American Indians  & beliefs including white man's belief & there's reasons for believing that they are part of the 10 Lost Tribes of who they were and much more. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=native+american+indians+lost+tribes+of+israel&tbm=bks&tbs=bkv:r   On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:26 PM, Adiene Humble via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > >Aman > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Jul 22, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Dan  M via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >Lots of places talk about the older dna and trying to find the tracing of >people. >One of the greatest challenges is the fact that the people came from many >places even before becoming native Americans. >  One of those traces is the one that claims one common ancestor in >Ethiopia. >Another is claiming the finding of the giants, but all the evidence is gone >by some mystery. >Some others are just names of people. Ever wonder where * your * name began >and why or how? >So many people want to claim some native now days when once, no one wanted >to know, or have it told that they were of NA ancestors. Some today, still >dont want it known. >Its a hard challenge to get to find out which of the people are related to >whom. >Also some of the DNA tests, I dont think are really doing what was expected >unless when You find a DNA result and it looks like your not going to prove >NA. >  Think about a few things. >1. If I have Euro DNA ? Maybe my Euro people came here or traveled with, the >same people who became NA? >2. look up Roanoke settlers, they merged with the Indians and lived with >them so long, they think they are Indians even tho the dna says not. But in >current pow wow you can see that it looks like they are not even close. >I think I posted that u tube documentary while back. >Dan > >=====*NOTICE THIS*===== >Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). >List archive >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >=====*NOTICE THIS*===== >Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). >List archive >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Thank you ... will watch this when I get back :) On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:59 PM, Dan M via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > >Yes, I did watch as many of the u tubes and websites over the years. >They are interesting. No way for us to decide over the scientists, but it is so interesting. >Here is another web site http://www.jesusevidence.org/shroud.html > >Jesus is as related to us as any other ancestor, ya'll agree? >Dan >  ----- Original Message ----- >  From: Karen >  To: Dan M ; cherokeegene@rootsweb.com >  Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:48 AM >  Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] How did "Jesus" get the Y? > > > > >  I've always been very open-minded but then some of my family may think me kooky at times but hey, this is life & stranger things have happened. I watched the show on TV about the Shroud of Turin and believe as well, this is really Jesus' image ... no one can prove it is not even if they try. Such a miracle. Here's the show I watched on the History Channel, it shows a 3-D image of the face which many believe to be Jesus. So exciting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsQfxhSrfB8 > > >  Then here is a very interesting video, explains alot. "The Shroud of Turin: A Modern Miracle" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CevQjNSkSk8 > > > > > > > > > > > >  On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:14 AM, Dan M via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > >    I watched this over 10 years ago. >    That was very interesting. >    I always thought that since he rose, his image was put on the cloth some how >    by the energy that all that happened with. There have been many updates on >    this how ever the cloth was damaged beyond use for any more tests and they >    had to use some they had saved in a lab. >      I will find that info if i can. >    It would be nice to have a accurate dna on Jesus. >    But maybe not truly possible . >    Dan >    ----- Original Message ----- >    From: "Adiene Humble via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> >    To: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com>; <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> >    Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 9:53 PM >    Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] How did "Jesus" get the Y? > > >    > Researchers were allowed by the Pope to snip a fragment of a earlier piece of the cloth that was placed over Jesus after they put him to rest.  Supposedly his image adhered to the cloth.  I just happened to be looking for something to watch on Dish and came across this segment.  They tested the material and got dna and ran the timeline back to the time of Jesus. >    There was a lot of interesting stuff revealed.  I don't remember all of it >    but you can bet I watch the NTGEO channel for research reasons. >    Adiene >    [] > > > >=====*NOTICE THIS*===== >Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). >List archive >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Oh yes, I've got too many irons in the fire, lol hard to keep up on everything. Here is an excellent, excellent video, it's a long one so when you get a couple hours, I believe you will really enjoy. So educational. "The Lord is and has been revealing things to mankind to show them that He is real. This documentary is by a man who was a sceptic, and set out to prove these things to be wrong." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXlsLCtLtc   On Monday, July 21, 2014 11:58 PM, wrote: > > >I am unaware of the research you mentioned, > >But I'm intrigued by such things that Karen's mentioned & you've mentioned. >I don't always follow up to learn more as I've got a lot of irons in the >fire & get easily excited about a new topic ;) > >But if a person doesn't keep an open mind, especially  when doing genealogy, >then they have the potential to miss a lot of little things that can help. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adiene Humble via >Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 8:13 PM >To: Karen; cherokeegene@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] How did "Jesus" get the Y? > >There's been a lot of speculation regarding Jesus's blood, especially since the shroud that supposedly had his imprint on it.  There was a whole series on National Geographic and even about bibical evens that was really interesting.  First of all I'm a believer of God and a converted Catholic but some of these realistic films really deserves watching especially if one is researching our ancestors. > >It is so easy for us to be narrow minded in our research but it should be the opposite.  Don't "fix" you ancestors in one area as they traveled >further than you think, back and forth as well.  Perhaps this was due to >warring situations. > >In other words, keep an open mind. > >I've been studying the dna process for a long time and in out messages I've not heard the mention of the Cambridge Reference Sequence.  Anyone know anything about this? >Adiene > > > >

Yes, I did watch as many of the u tubes and websites over the years. They are interesting. No way for us to decide over the scientists, but it is so interesting. Here is another web site http://www.jesusevidence.org/shroud.html Jesus is as related to us as any other ancestor, ya'll agree? Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen To: Dan M ; cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] How did "Jesus" get the Y? I've always been very open-minded but then some of my family may think me kooky at times but hey, this is life & stranger things have happened. I watched the show on TV about the Shroud of Turin and believe as well, this is really Jesus' image ... no one can prove it is not even if they try. Such a miracle. Here's the show I watched on the History Channel, it shows a 3-D image of the face which many believe to be Jesus. So exciting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsQfxhSrfB8 Then here is a very interesting video, explains alot. "The Shroud of Turin: A Modern Miracle" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CevQjNSkSk8 On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:14 AM, Dan M via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: I watched this over 10 years ago. That was very interesting. I always thought that since he rose, his image was put on the cloth some how by the energy that all that happened with. There have been many updates on this how ever the cloth was damaged beyond use for any more tests and they had to use some they had saved in a lab. I will find that info if i can. It would be nice to have a accurate dna on Jesus. But maybe not truly possible . Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adiene Humble via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> To: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com>; <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] How did "Jesus" get the Y? > Researchers were allowed by the Pope to snip a fragment of a earlier piece of the cloth that was placed over Jesus after they put him to rest. Supposedly his image adhered to the cloth. I just happened to be looking for something to watch on Dish and came across this segment. They tested the material and got dna and ran the timeline back to the time of Jesus. There was a lot of interesting stuff revealed. I don't remember all of it but you can bet I watch the NTGEO channel for research reasons. Adiene []