LOL Ya almost sound like me. When I started researching, I had to have my mom drive me to the LDS FHC (I was 13) then shortly after I got a computer & Dan found me, I lived on a few blocks away from the FHC....now I live 45 min's away...I'm still inquisitive, just lack desire to drive so far LOL Ancestry use to be great......not suppose much now :o( -----Original Message----- From: Edith Humble [mailto:eadiene7374@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 5:47 PM To: Alli :); cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] ancestry I'm glad to know I'm not the only one upset with ancestry. I had someone that posted that mom's grandmother had remarried in OK and she lived with her daughter right here at home. In fact, she never remarried at all Plus I think that ancestry has some sort of bug because I've entered my info and then the next time I go in it's different. I'm a member and even went World wide but not using it much. They make it very difficult in many ways, not listing it alphabetically which means you have to hunt thru all those names to find your info. However, since they've bought out all the other informative sites what other resources do you have? The answer is the library. Our library has great resources but I'm too laid back to go and research. My age, I think, but when I started I was only a block away from the library and they stayed open on Thursday until nine. Plus I was younger then and more inquisitive. Adiene

Are you sure you have to pay for Find A Grave/ They haven't charged me for it. I will check into that....Alli if you need information off Ancestry let me know. I am always here to help my friends. Kathleen On Monday, January 12, 2015 10:34 AM, wrote: I know......i just did a free trial so I can look at some info. I need to print out what I have saved, but don't have any ink right now. I guess I'll just have to suck it up, make a list of everything that I've saved & then go down to the local LDS FHC & print it all out there. Need to order some microfilm anyway. Oh I have seen grandkids & in laws listed as kids. One lady got mad at me because I pointed out all of the errors on her tree & she said if I wanted to blame someone to go to so & so's tree that's where she got the info. So I told asked her if they had directions of how to jump off a short pier would she go blindly along with that too or verify the accuracy before including it in info as facts. I pointed out to the others the same thing. Its hard enough finding my Adams family (I'm glad its not Addams, though it'd explain much LOL) w/o people claiming every James Adams as a relative w/o proof. One tree had 2 or 3 James Riley's in the same family, I've only found a James Riley & James Russel, but the others all had them married to the same Elizabeth Annie...its annoying. All I can do is go through all the info to link or unlink the names & figure out who goes where when. Yeah I'm not impressed with find a grave being owned by Ancestry either, another thing we have to pay for, but I thought Fold3 was a separate deal. I was thinking about subscribing to that until I made the discovery last night (don't ask me why I never paid any attention to the details till last night, cause I don't know LOL) :o( Alli -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 8:56 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] ancestry That's why I keep my ancestry tree private so people cant copy yet.   I found I had a great grand listed as a dau - it came that way because I used the add to my tree link. I use FTM private on my PC only now, when I am done, my family will get a print out - even if they don't want it. Find a grave is also a part of Ancestry - and when you search it goes to the Archive search and you have to be a paid member there - now too. Getting time to finalize what I have so far and get out of dodge - costs too much. I dropped my ancestry as of the 28th this month - so I cant do look ups any more for people. Ya, people make an error in a tree and rather than validate the problem, they just claim the error. That's a problem with an interactive system - its screwing up history - ancestry is a fault. They play on free info and charge you to look at it. =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't think its hearsay.....its just not official yet. But still not happy. No find a grave doesn't charge, unless you subscribe to join...at least it was for me, but I'm just mad over the crap that gets put into family trees & that 99% of the stuff on Ancestry can't be looked at for free EVEN when its marked AS FREE......And why Fold3 is bought by them...i liked them. -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 11:12 AM To: 'Kathy Burns'; cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] ancestry Not for find a grave, but for the archive connected to find a grave - Ancestry has filtered in to the adds, also it has been said, any thing on find a grave belongs to ancestry now. I read where they plan to take all the info for CD's - ( this is hearsay) Any one can look up the truth in the FAQ's and let us know, I just don't have time, am heading to town. But As not long ago, Ancestry was chopping things like Gen forum etc: because they said it was not main stream ancestry topics, so why did they take it over just to drop it? Some are saying they took find a grave just to cripple it too. ( hearsay) but If I heard others have too./?\ Dan

Not for find a grave, but for the archive connected to find a grave - Ancestry has filtered in to the adds, also it has been said, any thing on find a grave belongs to ancestry now. I read where they plan to take all the info for CD's - ( this is hearsay) Any one can look up the truth in the FAQ's and let us know, I just don't have time, am heading to town. But As not long ago, Ancestry was chopping things like Gen forum etc: because they said it was not main stream ancestry topics, so why did they take it over just to drop it? Some are saying they took find a grave just to cripple it too. ( hearsay) but If I heard others have too./?\ Dan -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Burns via Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 9:29 AM To: Alli :); cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] ancestry Are you sure you have to pay for Find A Grave/ They haven't charged me for it. I will check into that....Alli if you need information off Ancestry let me know. I am always here to help my friends.

I found via google ( cheap printer ink) I found a link and for mine 80$ regular, was 20$. I have not ordered any yet because I have other expenses. But any one might look to google and find those pages. -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alli : ) via Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 8:33 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] ancestry I know......i just did a free trial so I can look at some info. I need to print out what I have saved, but don't have any ink right now. I guess I'll just have to suck it up, make a list of everything that I've saved & then go down to the local LDS FHC & print it all out there. Need to order some microfilm anyway.

I know......i just did a free trial so I can look at some info. I need to print out what I have saved, but don't have any ink right now. I guess I'll just have to suck it up, make a list of everything that I've saved & then go down to the local LDS FHC & print it all out there. Need to order some microfilm anyway. Oh I have seen grandkids & in laws listed as kids. One lady got mad at me because I pointed out all of the errors on her tree & she said if I wanted to blame someone to go to so & so's tree that's where she got the info. So I told asked her if they had directions of how to jump off a short pier would she go blindly along with that too or verify the accuracy before including it in info as facts. I pointed out to the others the same thing. Its hard enough finding my Adams family (I'm glad its not Addams, though it'd explain much LOL) w/o people claiming every James Adams as a relative w/o proof. One tree had 2 or 3 James Riley's in the same family, I've only found a James Riley & James Russel, but the others all had them married to the same Elizabeth Annie...its annoying. All I can do is go through all the info to link or unlink the names & figure out who goes where when. Yeah I'm not impressed with find a grave being owned by Ancestry either, another thing we have to pay for, but I thought Fold3 was a separate deal. I was thinking about subscribing to that until I made the discovery last night (don't ask me why I never paid any attention to the details till last night, cause I don't know LOL) :o( Alli -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 8:56 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] ancestry That's why I keep my ancestry tree private so people cant copy yet. I found I had a great grand listed as a dau - it came that way because I used the add to my tree link. I use FTM private on my PC only now, when I am done, my family will get a print out - even if they don't want it. Find a grave is also a part of Ancestry - and when you search it goes to the Archive search and you have to be a paid member there - now too. Getting time to finalize what I have so far and get out of dodge - costs too much. I dropped my ancestry as of the 28th this month - so I cant do look ups any more for people. Ya, people make an error in a tree and rather than validate the problem, they just claim the error. That's a problem with an interactive system - its screwing up history - ancestry is a fault. They play on free info and charge you to look at it.

That's why I keep my ancestry tree private so people cant copy yet. I found I had a great grand listed as a dau - it came that way because I used the add to my tree link. I use FTM private on my PC only now, when I am done, my family will get a print out - even if they don't want it. Find a grave is also a part of Ancestry - and when you search it goes to the Archive search and you have to be a paid member there - now too. Getting time to finalize what I have so far and get out of dodge - costs too much. I dropped my ancestry as of the 28th this month - so I cant do look ups any more for people. Ya, people make an error in a tree and rather than validate the problem, they just claim the error. That's a problem with an interactive system - its screwing up history - ancestry is a fault. They play on free info and charge you to look at it. -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alli : ) via Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 11:31 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: [CherokeeGene] ancestry The people that post trees on ancestry (at least for my lines) are a GIANT pain in the back side..they have double to triple names of the same person. They have people getting married when they are 12 yrs old dying while they're still having kids...putting where they lived in a certain as the place of birth. I mean COME ON!!!!!!!!! I don't know why I bother. And what is up with Fold3 being apart of ancestry? Why can't people just not add info. until they can verify it. And having 3-4 different dates for the same person...doesn't ANYONE double check first? I relize trying to verify people born in the 1700 early 1800's isn't always easy but come on. Not to mention not excepting or claiming every common name that comes along as your line w/o proof..oey/oy Anyone else having trouble with a brick wall? =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The people that post trees on ancestry (at least for my lines) are a GIANT pain in the back side..they have double to triple names of the same person. They have people getting married when they are 12 yrs old dying while they're still having kids...putting where they lived in a certain as the place of birth. I mean COME ON!!!!!!!!! I don't know why I bother. And what is up with Fold3 being apart of ancestry? Why can't people just not add info. until they can verify it. And having 3-4 different dates for the same person...doesn't ANYONE double check first? I relize trying to verify people born in the 1700 early 1800's isn't always easy but come on. Not to mention not excepting or claiming every common name that comes along as your line w/o proof..oey/oy Anyone else having trouble with a brick wall?

Well, when I went to school we were required to not only take Texas History but American History as part of the graduation requirements. I loved it, some didn't. What is so bad is that some of the locals have written books or articles and obviously spoke to the wrong people. Living in the rural area we pretty much knew each other and our parents and grandparents and others talked about the area before we were born. One writer wrote about a ghost woman and child who had been seen on Jack Creek which I laughed at. Jack Creek is just behind me and believe me no one in this area has seen this. I had two uncles who drank too much (much to mom's distress) and men who took advantage of getting them drunk and writing checks on the bank accounts. Believe me, as often as they drove down that road to get their booze at all times of the day and night, they would have seen it and we would have heard about it. The bad part of my mom's family is because both sets of grandparents descended from NA bloodlines, they didn't handle liquor too well. When I found other members of my grandpa's uncle's family researchers, among the first thing they would comment on was this inability to drink. I tried to tell my kids not to drink too much as they could very well have even more of a problem as my dad's ancestors had NA connections too. You can't believe everything you hear, it has to be documented. -----Original Message----- From: Alli :) via Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 9:56 PM To: 'Edith Humble' ; cherokeegene@rootsweb.com fSubject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation I think I’ve learned more genealogy & history doing genealogy then I ever was taught in school :0) My hubby & my dad worked with a guy of the last name Beaver can’t remember where his family is from From: Edith Humble [mailto:eadiene7374@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:27 PM To: Alli :); cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Cc: Dan M Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation My grandmother's great uncles married into a family named Buffalo. I've really meant to try and trace that line but haven't got around to it. Of course, the family was here in Angelina Co, TX in 1850 and before that I'm not sure. History has an interesting twist. Adiene On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Alli :) via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com <mailto:cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > wrote: Thankfully we haven't had a lot of earthquakes here..... But where I'm at, we have a lot of rumblings to the west of me. We're not far from a bombing range, but they claim not to be using live rounds.......but I can tell ya something happens (but doesn't totally register on the rector (sp) scale thing. So if they're not doing it & its not anyone dynamiting & its not registerable rector scales movement....what is it. Yep I'm not impressed with being in the same state as the "cauldron" I can tell ya. We have volcano's here too....not happy. Course most are on the other side of the canyon from us :0) but sadly.......we're in between some canyon's.......not good. I can't imagine what our ancestor's went through back then.....how did they handle the earthquakes, tornado's, volcano's.... -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com <mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com <mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com> ] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:57 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com <mailto:cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation Alli mentioned about the earth quakes, in Alli's region is Idaho, the cauldron that is supposed to cause the Yellowstone super quake, is under Idaho. Any how, here is a web page. http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/yellowstone/yellowstone_sub_page_49.html In the past, the people of those times, had some rough jolts with volcanoes. Here where I am on the high desert many many miles from crater lake, we have places the ash is still up to 4 feet thick. BOOM! Just think of that impact on the Natives and on foot, no place to hide on the open flat lands. The burning ash comes falling , the sun goes out and they cant see where to go, they cant breath - and it must have been horrid. I used to live right in Yellowstone. My stepdad was their electrical engineer. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/12/131218-yellowstone-supervolc <http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/12/131218-yellowstone-supervolcano-eruption-magma-reservoir/> ano-eruption-magma-reservoir/ You can document one of the reasons people moved, was volcanoes ;} =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). 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I think I’ve learned more genealogy & history doing genealogy then I ever was taught in school :0) My hubby & my dad worked with a guy of the last name Beaver can’t remember where his family is from From: Edith Humble [mailto:eadiene7374@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:27 PM To: Alli :); cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Cc: Dan M Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation My grandmother's great uncles married into a family named Buffalo. I've really meant to try and trace that line but haven't got around to it. Of course, the family was here in Angelina Co, TX in 1850 and before that I'm not sure. History has an interesting twist. Adiene On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Alli :) via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com <mailto:cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> > wrote: Thankfully we haven't had a lot of earthquakes here..... But where I'm at, we have a lot of rumblings to the west of me. We're not far from a bombing range, but they claim not to be using live rounds.......but I can tell ya something happens (but doesn't totally register on the rector (sp) scale thing. So if they're not doing it & its not anyone dynamiting & its not registerable rector scales movement....what is it. Yep I'm not impressed with being in the same state as the "cauldron" I can tell ya. We have volcano's here too....not happy. Course most are on the other side of the canyon from us :0) but sadly.......we're in between some canyon's.......not good. I can't imagine what our ancestor's went through back then.....how did they handle the earthquakes, tornado's, volcano's.... -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com <mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com <mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com> ] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:57 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com <mailto:cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation Alli mentioned about the earth quakes, in Alli's region is Idaho, the cauldron that is supposed to cause the Yellowstone super quake, is under Idaho. Any how, here is a web page. http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/yellowstone/yellowstone_sub_page_49.html In the past, the people of those times, had some rough jolts with volcanoes. Here where I am on the high desert many many miles from crater lake, we have places the ash is still up to 4 feet thick. BOOM! Just think of that impact on the Natives and on foot, no place to hide on the open flat lands. The burning ash comes falling , the sun goes out and they cant see where to go, they cant breath - and it must have been horrid. I used to live right in Yellowstone. My stepdad was their electrical engineer. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/12/131218-yellowstone-supervolc <http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/12/131218-yellowstone-supervolcano-eruption-magma-reservoir/> ano-eruption-magma-reservoir/ You can document one of the reasons people moved, was volcanoes ;} =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com <mailto:Cherokee@rootsweb.com> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thankfully we haven't had a lot of earthquakes here..... But where I'm at, we have a lot of rumblings to the west of me. We're not far from a bombing range, but they claim not to be using live rounds.......but I can tell ya something happens (but doesn't totally register on the rector (sp) scale thing. So if they're not doing it & its not anyone dynamiting & its not registerable rector scales movement....what is it. Yep I'm not impressed with being in the same state as the "cauldron" I can tell ya. We have volcano's here too....not happy. Course most are on the other side of the canyon from us :0) but sadly.......we're in between some canyon's.......not good. I can't imagine what our ancestor's went through back then.....how did they handle the earthquakes, tornado's, volcano's.... -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:57 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation Alli mentioned about the earth quakes, in Alli's region is Idaho, the cauldron that is supposed to cause the Yellowstone super quake, is under Idaho. Any how, here is a web page. http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/yellowstone/yellowstone_sub_page_49.html In the past, the people of those times, had some rough jolts with volcanoes. Here where I am on the high desert many many miles from crater lake, we have places the ash is still up to 4 feet thick. BOOM! Just think of that impact on the Natives and on foot, no place to hide on the open flat lands. The burning ash comes falling , the sun goes out and they cant see where to go, they cant breath - and it must have been horrid. I used to live right in Yellowstone. My stepdad was their electrical engineer. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/12/131218-yellowstone-supervolc ano-eruption-magma-reservoir/ You can document one of the reasons people moved, was volcanoes ;}

Cool.......never knew that :0) -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:02 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation No. Because it is an Indian word for " Father of Waters" Dan

No. Because it is an Indian word for " Father of Waters" Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> To: "'Dan M'" <mygen2@d-matney.com>; <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation > But some names are spelled close to the way they sounded as well as being > brought over..... > > But is there any place overseas (back then) named Mississippi? > > Finding the origination of names is always cool > > -----Original Message----- > From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via > Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 10:28 AM > To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation > > Indians or pioneers? > Never hear of a true Indian named Mississippi? > ;) > I would like to hear about these names. > Once we ran a thread about surname and I started a web page, then, it got > lost. > The web page is still there. I will post it when I find it. lol. > Its not on this laptop. > Ahh, it was in google > http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney/cheronames2.html > also was this > http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.matney/56.85.100/mb.ashx > > Dan >

Alli mentioned about the earth quakes, in Alli's region is Idaho, the cauldron that is supposed to cause the Yellowstone super quake, is under Idaho. Any how, here is a web page. http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/yellowstone/yellowstone_sub_page_49.html In the past, the people of those times, had some rough jolts with volcanoes. Here where I am on the high desert many many miles from crater lake, we have places the ash is still up to 4 feet thick. BOOM! Just think of that impact on the Natives and on foot, no place to hide on the open flat lands. The burning ash comes falling , the sun goes out and they cant see where to go, they cant breath - and it must have been horrid. I used to live right in Yellowstone. My stepdad was their electrical engineer. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/12/131218-yellowstone-supervolcano-eruption-magma-reservoir/ You can document one of the reasons people moved, was volcanoes ;} Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> To: "'Dan M'" <mygen2@d-matney.com>; <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 10:07 AM Subject: RE: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation > Yes I've seen the price of gold. Cost me more to move there to try & get > some then it would to buy it. Or about the same, depending all what I > need. > > Too many earthquakes for my taste, too much smog for me, a lot of rude > people (though that's where I'm at too so its not a mark against them) A > lot > of them moved here & jacked up the prices of housing & rent, built a lot > of > overly fancy homes & IF they lived in them it might have been for a year > before complaining & leaving & the prices are still WAY more than our > little > Ag area can afford, so they sit empty. There are some nice areas if the > smog > wasn't there. Been all over (driving truck) & spent some time in San > Diego. > Got to see the Exxon ValDiez (sp) when it was docked for repairs after the > oil spill & got to see Mirmar (Top Gun).....both were cool. > > Got family & ex-in-law family & friends there......would visit, wouldn't > live there. We have mines here too, so I could just stay put :0) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via > Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 10:46 AM > To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation > > And what is wrong with CA? > I lived there once. > It was a lot better than here and I am just one county away. > Have you seen the price of gold? > Dan >

But some names are spelled close to the way they sounded as well as being brought over..... But is there any place overseas (back then) named Mississippi? Finding the origination of names is always cool -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 10:28 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation Indians or pioneers? Never hear of a true Indian named Mississippi? ;) I would like to hear about these names. Once we ran a thread about surname and I started a web page, then, it got lost. The web page is still there. I will post it when I find it. lol. Its not on this laptop. Ahh, it was in google http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney/cheronames2.html also was this http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.matney/56.85.100/mb.ashx Dan

Yes I've seen the price of gold. Cost me more to move there to try & get some then it would to buy it. Or about the same, depending all what I need. Too many earthquakes for my taste, too much smog for me, a lot of rude people (though that's where I'm at too so its not a mark against them) A lot of them moved here & jacked up the prices of housing & rent, built a lot of overly fancy homes & IF they lived in them it might have been for a year before complaining & leaving & the prices are still WAY more than our little Ag area can afford, so they sit empty. There are some nice areas if the smog wasn't there. Been all over (driving truck) & spent some time in San Diego. Got to see the Exxon ValDiez (sp) when it was docked for repairs after the oil spill & got to see Mirmar (Top Gun).....both were cool. Got family & ex-in-law family & friends there......would visit, wouldn't live there. We have mines here too, so I could just stay put :0) -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 10:46 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation And what is wrong with CA? I lived there once. It was a lot better than here and I am just one county away. Have you seen the price of gold? Dan

I don't like Calif enough to live there to try & get gold....but ya never know :0) -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 10:20 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation Enjoy http://www.goldgold.com/tag/happy-camp-california This is a more modern todays web page with some of yesterdays info. There is still gold there. Any one wanna RUSH n get some? Dan M

And what is wrong with CA? I lived there once. It was a lot better than here and I am just one county away. Have you seen the price of gold? Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> To: "'Dan M'" <mygen2@d-matney.com>; <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 9:23 AM Subject: RE: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation >I don't like Calif enough to live there to try & get gold....but ya never > know :0) > > -----Original Message----- > From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via > Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 10:20 AM > To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation > > Enjoy > http://www.goldgold.com/tag/happy-camp-california > This is a more modern todays web page with some of yesterdays info. > There is still gold there. > Any one wanna RUSH n get some? > Dan M > >

Indians or pioneers? Never hear of a true Indian named Mississippi? ;) I would like to hear about these names. Once we ran a thread about surname and I started a web page, then, it got lost. The web page is still there. I will post it when I find it. lol. Its not on this laptop. Ahh, it was in google http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney/cheronames2.html also was this http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.matney/56.85.100/mb.ashx Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> To: "'Dan M'" <mygen2@d-matney.com>; <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 10:03 PM Subject: RE: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation > They also named their kids for some areas too >

Enjoy http://www.goldgold.com/tag/happy-camp-california This is a more modern todays web page with some of yesterdays info. There is still gold there. Any one wanna RUSH n get some? Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> To: "'Dan M'" <mygen2@d-matney.com>; <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 10:02 PM Subject: RE: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation That'd be some cool history to have -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 8:29 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Lore, Pride and Documentation One of my distant cousins was in some charge of Happy Camp ( gold rush) My Great great grand dad was president of the Vern Blue mines in Jacksonville Oregon. Dan