This group is for genealogy research and trade of help. Not a debate list. Please make your comments to the list according to the rules. -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of p.lamb3 via Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 12:12 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: [CherokeeGene] Pamunkey Indians won right. Not me I'm EasternCherokee of N.C.

I'm not related (that I know of) so I haven't looked into it Alli -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 10:52 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Virginiaâ?Ts Pamunkey Indians have won recognition from the federal government So, every one fall asleep since this post? Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan M via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> To: "Joy King" <joyk@sc.rr.com>; <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene]Virginiaâ?Ts Pamunkey Indians have won recognition from the federal government Thanks. Is there any one on this list related to this tribe? Dan M a Sizemore relation ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy King via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> To: "CherokeeGene" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com>; "Sizemore" <sizemore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 8:51 AM Subject: [CherokeeGene] Virginiaâ?Ts Pamunkey Indians have won recognition from the federal government http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a-renowned-virginia-indian-tribe-finally -wins-federal-recognition/2015/07/02/40cc0dd4-200a-11e5-aeb9-a411a84c9d55_st ory.html

So, every one fall asleep since this post? Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan M via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> To: "Joy King" <joyk@sc.rr.com>; <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene]Virginiaâ?Ts Pamunkey Indians have won recognition from the federal government Thanks. Is there any one on this list related to this tribe? Dan M a Sizemore relation ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy King via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> To: "CherokeeGene" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com>; "Sizemore" <sizemore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 8:51 AM Subject: [CherokeeGene] Virginiaâ?Ts Pamunkey Indians have won recognition from the federal government > http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a-renowned-virginia-indian-tribe-finally-wins-federal-recognition/2015/07/02/40cc0dd4-200a-11e5-aeb9-a411a84c9d55_story.html > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks. Is there any one on this list related to this tribe? Dan M a Sizemore relation ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy King via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> To: "CherokeeGene" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com>; "Sizemore" <sizemore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 8:51 AM Subject: [CherokeeGene] Virginiaâ?Ts Pamunkey Indians have won recognition from the federal government > http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a-renowned-virginia-indian-tribe-finally-wins-federal-recognition/2015/07/02/40cc0dd4-200a-11e5-aeb9-a411a84c9d55_story.html > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hope all is well with everyone, seems like we haven't had a conversation in a while, so I will ask for help. I should probably know this, but it's not my line, so I don't. Who were the parents of John Jolly? Robert Due and ? Trying to clean up lots of lineage errors and mythical lines on Wikitree. Thanks in advance, Kathie

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a-renowned-virginia-indian-tribe-finally-wins-federal-recognition/2015/07/02/40cc0dd4-200a-11e5-aeb9-a411a84c9d55_story.html

http://blog.eogn.com/2015/06/10/bicyclists-honor-ancestors-with-950-mile-ride-to-oklahoma/ Cyclists from the 2015 Remember the Removal Bike Ride are now retracing the steps of their ancestors along the northern route of the Trail of Tears. The team of 20 riders and crew, representing the Cherokee Nation and the Eastern Band of Cherokee, will complete a 950-mile ride and pass through seven states to honor and remember their ancestors who walked the Trail of Tears in 1838. The annual trip began more than 30 years ago as a leadership program for Cherokee students to experience the journey of their ancestors. This year’s journey began on June 7 in Echota, Ga., and will conclude with a ceremony on June 25 in Tahlequah, Okla.

Thanks Joy! the new book looks quite interesting! Beth > > Original Essay by Steve Inskeep > > > http://www.powells.com/blog/original-essays/why-the-story-of-jackson-and-the-cherokees-is-more-relevant-than-ever-by-steve-inskeep/ > ? > > Joy > > > >

Original Essay by Steve Inskeep http://www.powells.com/blog/original-essays/why-the-story-of-jackson-and-the-cherokees-is-more-relevant-than-ever-by-steve-inskeep/? Joy

Hya Kathy; Hey we been filling up the Cherokee chat list. I have Prather in 2 lines Matney and Rogers also Prater. There are a bunch in the old Buena vista cem near Independence Ore. If your Rogers goes back to John the Martyr, we are mostlikey related ;_) I think that like also takes in King Henry Rogers. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Burns To: Dan M ; cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 22 My Cherokee Prather line was in Oklahoma Territory....Prather line of Robert Allen Prather are related to the Cherokee Rogers line through his wife Edith Caroline "Eady" Rogers who was the granddaughter of Charles Rogers son of John "Hell Fire Jack" Rogers....Dan you said you had Rogers in your line but I didn't know about your Prather's. I have tons of information on the Prather's Kathlenn On Monday, May 11, 2015 12:07 PM, Dan M via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: Interesting, I have some Odell and Prather. Wonder how those 2 names got together. Prather in Oregon were in the logging after the great migration. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Golden via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 22 > Thanks so much, Kathie!! > It's unlikely, but hoping you can find some information on Mary, who I > believe to be my 4th great grandmother, a Cherokee woman from the Indian > Territory in upstate SC. From what I've been able to piece together: > born about 1760, Indian Territory now Pickens, Oconee or Pendleton > Counties, SC > married John BEALL or BELL (also listed as Jeane) > son: John BELL b. 1789 Old Pendleton District, Pickens Co., SC > > John BEALL died in Wilkes County, GA ca. 1804 (will probated 5 Mar 1804) > > John BELL married Elizabeth ODELL and died in 24 March 1862 Cedartown, > Polk > County, GA > > Elizabeth born 1790 Old Pendleton to John Prather ODELL and Mary BOURLAND > ODELL; died 1867 Forney, Cherokee County, AL. Her grandmother was Mary > ADAIR of SC, and I've often wondered whether this Adair line fits into the > others with Cherokee culture. > > all the best, > Beth > > On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 3:00 AM, <cherokeegene-request@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> >> >> I just got a copy of this book which is a transcription of the Cherokee >> Census of 1835. It has the detail, not just the names, e.g. >> ... >> I'm happy to do lookups and email or post. Kathie >> >> >> ******************************************** >> > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Prayers in the NA way. My cousin is a hospice care provider and I can tell you, we have some sensitive times. Take care and let us know how you are time to time. Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doris Parks via > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 12:25 PM > To: 'Dan M'; cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Those Who Cried - Henderson Roll/Cherokee > Censusof 1835 > > Thanks a lot Dan. I have the civil war records of Walter Lea; and he was > described as having black hair and yellow eyes. Also a tintype picture of > his great grandmother Elizabeth (Ingram) Lea also looks definitely Indian. > But I understand that looks can be deceiving. Dan, it may be awhile > before > I can really get back into genealogy because my husband is critically ill > here at home and under the care of hospice. Thank you again for > responding > to my earlier email. > Doris []

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Sorry that I hadn't read the most recent digest before sending the reply to Dan. Alli, as I wrote in my reply to Dan, my direct line were MD to SC Kathy, that's great that you too have Prathers! Does your Robert Allen Prather connect to John Smith Prather and his wife Elizabeth Nuthall? all the best, Beth On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 3:18 AM, Beth Golden <gramssearch4family@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Dan, > Very interesting indeed! I've not followed the Prather line once they > 'entered' my direct ancestors so don't know how yours fit into mine. > > James ODELL married Martha PRATHER in 1747 likely in Queen Anne's Parish, > Prince George's, MD > James was born 12 Jul 1731 to Thomas PRATHER and Margaret BEALL, according > to the St. Barnabas Church Parish records. Martha was born 20 Apr 1730 to > John Smith PRATHER and Elizabeth NUTHALL, also in Queen Anne's Parish, > Prince George's, MD. > > I've not done much work on them, but believe that Martha died about 1790 > in SC; not sure about James. > > Any connections? Always fun to meet cuzns, however distant ;) > all the best, > Beth > > > ********* > Dan wrote: > Interesting, I have some Odell and Prather. > Wonder how those 2 names got together. > Prather in Oregon were in the logging after the great migration. > Dan >

Thanks Kathie! I didn't think that SC was covered, but wanted to give the background. Jack Bell may be a relative ... like the Adairs, there were a lot of Bells in GA too. One of these days I'll sort it all out ;) all the best and thanks again, Beth Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 21:22:13 +0000 From: "> Subject: [CherokeeGene] Beall/Bell in 1835 Censu0 To: " <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com>" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <857374BF9E92FC41ADB816D22EC6616DCDECE538@akers.ad.unh.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Beth, the 1835 Census did not include South Carolina - those lands were ceded much earlier. There is a Jack Bell on the Coosawattie River in Georgia, with six quarterbreeds in his household. One farmer, three spinners, one weaver. Four descendants of reservees. There were a lot of Cherokee Adairs in Georgia, but only the name of the head of household is shown. Kathie

Hi Dan, Very interesting indeed! I've not followed the Prather line once they 'entered' my direct ancestors so don't know how yours fit into mine. James ODELL married Martha PRATHER in 1747 likely in Queen Anne's Parish, Prince George's, MD James was born 12 Jul 1731 to Thomas PRATHER and Margaret BEALL, according to the St. Barnabas Church Parish records. Martha was born 20 Apr 1730 to John Smith PRATHER and Elizabeth NUTHALL, also in Queen Anne's Parish, Prince George's, MD. I've not done much work on them, but believe that Martha died about 1790 in SC; not sure about James. Any connections? Always fun to meet cuzns, however distant ;) all the best, Beth ********* Dan wrote: Interesting, I have some Odell and Prather. Wonder how those 2 names got together. Prather in Oregon were in the logging after the great migration. Dan

Beth, the 1835 Census did not include South Carolina - those lands were ceded much earlier. There is a Jack Bell on the Coosawattie River in Georgia, with six quarterbreeds in his household. One farmer, three spinners, one weaver. Four descendants of reservees. There were a lot of Cherokee Adairs in Georgia, but only the name of the head of household is shown. Kathie

My Cherokee Prather line was in Oklahoma Territory....Prather line of Robert Allen Prather are related to the Cherokee Rogers line through his wife Edith Caroline "Eady" Rogers who was the granddaughter of Charles Rogers son of John "Hell Fire Jack" Rogers....Dan you said you had Rogers in your line but I didn't know about your Prather's. I have tons of information on the Prather's Kathlenn On Monday, May 11, 2015 12:07 PM, Dan M via <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> wrote: Interesting, I have some Odell and Prather. Wonder how those 2 names got together. Prather in Oregon were in the logging after the great migration. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Golden via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> To: <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 22 > Thanks so much, Kathie!! > It's unlikely, but hoping you can find some information on Mary, who I > believe to be my 4th great grandmother, a Cherokee woman from the Indian > Territory in upstate SC. From what I've been able to piece together: > born about 1760, Indian Territory now Pickens, Oconee or Pendleton > Counties, SC > married John BEALL or BELL (also listed as Jeane) > son: John BELL b. 1789 Old Pendleton District, Pickens Co., SC > > John BEALL died in Wilkes County, GA ca. 1804 (will probated 5 Mar 1804) > > John BELL married Elizabeth ODELL and died in 24 March 1862 Cedartown, > Polk > County, GA > > Elizabeth born 1790 Old Pendleton to John Prather ODELL and Mary BOURLAND > ODELL; died 1867 Forney, Cherokee County, AL. Her grandmother was Mary > ADAIR of SC, and I've often wondered whether this Adair line fits into the > others with Cherokee culture. > > all the best, > Beth > > On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 3:00 AM, <cherokeegene-request@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> >> >> I just got a copy of this book which is a transcription of the Cherokee >> Census of 1835.  It has the detail, not just the names, e.g. >> ... >> I'm happy to do lookups and email or post.  Kathie >> >> >> ******************************************** >> > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and > sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Prayers are on the wind for your husband & yourself.....take care of yourself as well....its hard being a caregiver, even with outside care givers helping a little. Alli -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doris Parks via Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 12:25 PM To: 'Dan M'; cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Those Who Cried - Henderson Roll/Cherokee Censusof 1835 Thanks a lot Dan. I have the civil war records of Walter Lea; and he was described as having black hair and yellow eyes. Also a tintype picture of his great grandmother Elizabeth (Ingram) Lea also looks definitely Indian. But I understand that looks can be deceiving. Dan, it may be awhile before I can really get back into genealogy because my husband is critically ill here at home and under the care of hospice. Thank you again for responding to my earlier email. Doris From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 12:00 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Those Who Cried - Henderson Roll/Cherokee Censusof 1835 Some times elders can ( look ) part Indian and be full English, German, etc: Looks, is not a positive. Tracing where they came from and what time line is. Photography was not well known until the 1800. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_photography After the introduction, it was not used widely or in the wild as much as in studios. Some paintings are older than that. Have you other data to show Indian with the previous people in your line that might help show a time line and area where they lived around Indian Territory ( IT ) is the abbreviation for that. You know by the 1820's most of the area was cleansed of Indians. I have the rolls here, so does Judy at access genealogy. I also think you might use the link Alli sent. Here is a idea, get a large butcher paper, put your people up on the wall in time lines and locations, make a hand map or use a wall map, like me, I got a really nice wall map and I dont have any walls open lol;) So instead of pins, I use colored perm markers and make dots, each line its on color and Indian is red next to a dot.... So far the Indian ( we know * or thought we know*) has no proof. Some times Indians had no proof back then - and we go by looks - just be it known, looks can be deceiving. Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Parks via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> To: "'Forbes, Kathie'" <Kathie.Forbes@unh.edu>; <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Those Who Cried - Henderson Roll/Cherokee Censusof 1835 > Do you show anything on James Anderson Lea? He married around 1829, > we think to an Indian (no known name) and by 1835 had 3 children - > Walter 1830; Catherine 1831; James 1832/3 - In 1840 the courts in > McMinn County TN awarded custody of Walter and James to a William Lea, > stating that James Anderson Lea was deceased. Don't know what happened > to Catherine. The picture we have of Walter Lea shows that he is > definitely part Indian. No known picture of James or James Anderson > Lea. Any help would be appreciated. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Forbes@lists9.rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 1:23 PM > To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CherokeeGene] Those Who Cried - Henderson Roll/Cherokee > Census of > 1835 > > I just got a copy of this book which is a transcription of the > Cherokee Census of 1835. It has the detail, not just the names, e.g. > > Candy's Creek McMinn County > > Samuel Parks > > eleven quarterbloods, owning twelve slaves. One white intermarriage. > A farm and one farmer. One mechanic. Eight read English. Three > weavers and three spinners. One reservee and eleven descendants of > reservee. > > I'm happy to do lookups and email or post. Kathie > > > ******************************************** > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; > and sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; > and sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks a lot Dan. I have the civil war records of Walter Lea; and he was described as having black hair and yellow eyes. Also a tintype picture of his great grandmother Elizabeth (Ingram) Lea also looks definitely Indian. But I understand that looks can be deceiving. Dan, it may be awhile before I can really get back into genealogy because my husband is critically ill here at home and under the care of hospice. Thank you again for responding to my earlier email. Doris From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 12:00 PM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Those Who Cried - Henderson Roll/Cherokee Censusof 1835 Some times elders can ( look ) part Indian and be full English, German, etc: Looks, is not a positive. Tracing where they came from and what time line is. Photography was not well known until the 1800. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_photography After the introduction, it was not used widely or in the wild as much as in studios. Some paintings are older than that. Have you other data to show Indian with the previous people in your line that might help show a time line and area where they lived around Indian Territory ( IT ) is the abbreviation for that. You know by the 1820's most of the area was cleansed of Indians. I have the rolls here, so does Judy at access genealogy. I also think you might use the link Alli sent. Here is a idea, get a large butcher paper, put your people up on the wall in time lines and locations, make a hand map or use a wall map, like me, I got a really nice wall map and I dont have any walls open lol;) So instead of pins, I use colored perm markers and make dots, each line its on color and Indian is red next to a dot.... So far the Indian ( we know * or thought we know*) has no proof. Some times Indians had no proof back then - and we go by looks - just be it known, looks can be deceiving. Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Parks via" <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> To: "'Forbes, Kathie'" <Kathie.Forbes@unh.edu>; <cherokeegene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Those Who Cried - Henderson Roll/Cherokee Censusof 1835 > Do you show anything on James Anderson Lea? He married around 1829, > we think to an Indian (no known name) and by 1835 had 3 children - > Walter 1830; Catherine 1831; James 1832/3 - In 1840 the courts in > McMinn County TN awarded custody of Walter and James to a William Lea, > stating that James Anderson Lea was deceased. Don't know what happened > to Catherine. The picture we have of Walter Lea shows that he is > definitely part Indian. No known picture of James or James Anderson > Lea. Any help would be appreciated. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Forbes@lists9.rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 1:23 PM > To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CherokeeGene] Those Who Cried - Henderson Roll/Cherokee > Census of > 1835 > > I just got a copy of this book which is a transcription of the > Cherokee Census of 1835. It has the detail, not just the names, e.g. > > Candy's Creek McMinn County > > Samuel Parks > > eleven quarterbloods, owning twelve slaves. One white intermarriage. > A farm and one farmer. One mechanic. Eight read English. Three > weavers and three spinners. One reservee and eleven descendants of > reservee. > > I'm happy to do lookups and email or post. Kathie > > > ******************************************** > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; > and sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; > and sort fact from (fiction). > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to Cherokee@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEEGENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). 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I came across both names on census.....VA & NC I think -----Original Message----- From: cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokeegene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan M via Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 11:06 AM To: cherokeegene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 22 Interesting, I have some Odell and Prather. Wonder how those 2 names got together. Prather in Oregon were in the logging after the great migration. Dan