do you have a source for who & why? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Martin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] creek >I just sent you the answer to your question. Check your email. The Cherokee > agent originated the saying but for a different reason, not obvious. The > Creek was the "Creek Indians"----Joseph Martin
I've heard that for years growing up, never knew of its origin, just figured it was a religious/southern thing that my grandma grew up hearing. But it'd definitely be interesting to find out who originated that saying & why & where :) Alli :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Lattimore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 8:53 PM Subject: [CherokeeGene] creek I have heard the saying "Lord willing and the Creek don't rise" came from Indian agent Benjimin Hawkins. Replying to a request to return to Washington to give a report on the status of the indians. true or false Please. Best regards Barb ________________________________ =====*NOTICE THIS*===== this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I just sent you the answer to your question. Check your email. The Cherokee agent originated the saying but for a different reason, not obvious. The Creek was the "Creek Indians"----Joseph Martin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alli :) Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 8:42 PM To: Barbara Lattimore; [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] creek I've heard that for years growing up, never knew of its origin, just figured it was a religious/southern thing that my grandma grew up hearing. But it'd definitely be interesting to find out who originated that saying & why & where :) Alli :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Lattimore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 8:53 PM Subject: [CherokeeGene] creek I have heard the saying "Lord willing and the Creek don't rise" came from Indian agent Benjimin Hawkins. Replying to a request to return to Washington to give a report on the status of the indians. true or false Please. Best regards Barb ________________________________ =====*NOTICE THIS*===== this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have heard the saying "Lord willing and the Creek don't rise" came from Indian agent Benjimin Hawkins. Replying to a request to return to Washington to give a report on the status of the indians. true or false Please. Best regards Barb ________________________________
daniel blevins married sarah not cornblossom,he was either born in england or va,not sure yet,i have files on this family will try & check them tomorrow ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Reynolds" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > Hello, Earleene! > > This is one of those hard ones because there is an awful lot of bad > information out there about Sarah's alleged lineage. At most she > would have been 1/32, if I have counted right, maybe 1/16th but no > more than that. I am assuming you have probably seen some of the > family trees on the web that have her several times great grandmother > as Princess Cornblossom Doublehead or Cornblossom Chuqualatague > Doublehead Shawnee (married to Daniel Belvins)? This last name is the > way Don Greene shows lineage in his books on the Shawnee - all of > which are totally unsupported and unsourced - and not a name at all. > Chuqualatague was simply another name that was attributed to > Doublehead. Some of the trees have Sarah's mother or grandmother > married to Jacob "Big Jake" Troxell after the death of their fist > husband, others have Cornblossom married to Jake Troxell after > Daniel's death. All of them have a huge mess when it comes to > children in those earlier generations, largely because there is > absolutley ZERO documentation on them and multiple families are mixed > together. > > There are a few things in those trees that tip them off as incorrect. > The first is PRINCESS. There were no Native American princesses. > That was the Englishman's designation for the daughter of a chief, but > the daughters were not royalty, nor were the sons and they had no > special place of precedence because of their father's position. > > The second is Shawnee. There is a lovely tale on the internet that > has John Pasmere Carpenter married to a Shawnee lass named Pride in > Jamestown, Virginia Colony in about 1627 or 1628. They supposedly had > a son named A-ma-do-ya who became chief at Chota later in the mid > 1600s, founding the Cherokee Moytoy line. It's a lovely story, but it > is just that. Virginia records disprove it. John Pasmere Carpenter > did not exist. John Pasmore, a carpenter of James City, later > Jamestown, did exist and it is an INDEX entry from the Virginia > Library digital land records that gives rise to the other name. The > index entry is in error as the land lease clearly shows. If you would > like the documentation, I will be happy to send it to you. Still it > IS a pretty story, it's just fiction, not fact. > > Third, Doublehead was well known and his line is well documented. > Maybe one of his daughters' names could be translated Cornblossom, but > none are documented with that name. Their husbands are all known and > none includes a Blevins or a Troxell. Two of his daughters married > Colonel James Colbert, a half-blood Chickasaw, near what is now Muscle > Shoals, AL. > > Fourth, many of them have Cornblossom as born about 1758 and her first > child born two years later in 1760. Maybe if she were 12 or 14 there > would be a chance, but not TWO! > > Fifth, they all use modern place names. They have Jonathan Blevins > (my research indicates he probably was Sarah's father) as born in > Wayne County, KY about 1780. At the time of his birth, the area might > have been Lincoln County or Kentucky County, depending on when in the > year he was born, but BOTH were in Virginia. Kentucky did not become > a state until 1792. On the 1850 census, he showed birth place of > Virginia, which was true. Wayne County did not exist until 1800. In > time order from colonial days it was Kentucky County, Lincoln County, > Green County, Cumberland County and Pulaski County - the last two > ceding land to the new county when Wayne was formed. If they had done > their research, they would know the information was incorrect, but it > was apparently just copied and pasted or appended. > > I don't see anything in the portions of Sarah's heritage I can verify > that lead to the Cherokee and a blood connection there. As far as I > know, the Troxell story has been discredited, but I may be mistaken on > that - Joy or Joyce, can you help my memory? I have very deep roots in > Wayne County, KY, but there is nothing in the history of the area that > leads me to believe the Cherokees played a significant role there, if > any. What I do find of your families is the same story for most of > the early settlers - Virginians who either moved there and claimed > Revolutionary Bounty Land in the area, or the younger sons of Virginia > households who had no real future in their home counties looking for a > start in life with real possibilities. For some born in Virginia and > Virginia Colony, they never moved at all - the county and state lines > moved around them. Many colonial Virginia families DID have mixed > heritages, but it was largely mixed black and white. In the early > years of the colony Free Blacks were accorded the same respect and > status as the white colonists. In fact, it was far more respectable > to be a Free Black than to be an indentured servant. Indentureds > were treated worse than slaves because they had come to the colonies > poor with hat in hand, where slaves had value to the planters (not my > feelings at all, but that was the thinking of those days). It was > illegal for indentured servants to marry anyone other than an > indentured servant and many, especially the women, "married" slaves. > In later years when prejudice against the black community had arisen, > it was far easier, more acceptable, and safer to claim being half > Indian than being Mulatto. Indians were not chased by slave catchers > so much. So, those who could hide in plain sight as white did, while > those with darker skin hid in plain sight as Indians. Italians, > Portuguese, and so on. > > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Earleene <[email protected]> wrote: >> Trying to confirm heritage of sarah steel,daughter of christian steel and >> elizabeth blevins. sarah said she was 1/2 cherokee. she married abramham >> tinker from unicoi tn,they setteled in dade co ga & dekalb co al. she is >> my3rd great grandmother. earleene >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting >> is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is > required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Earleene If you are willing to do lookups would you please see if David Shelton is listen in her books, prior to 1840. I'm looking for copies. Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Earleene Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage hi susan,i have lots of info on wayne co ky,i will share it,i'm having a medical problem so i will have to do it as i can, real back problem,, june bork was a teacher in wayne co ky & saw a need to record the history of it before it was all gone,i think she did about three books, sara steel was the daughter of christian steel & elizabeth blevins the marriage of them is recorded, they had 4 kids but sarah & eli are the only ones i can find. christian was in the war of 1812, he was with Tauals mounted regement. when he got out they migrated to deer head cove in ala/ga as it is directly on state line. he died and she married george jacob troxell ,they had one child eliza lousia troxell,there are a lot of decendent in dade co ga. also records of this. as for cornblossom,she was daughter of double head ,don't know about being a princess,it is mentioned in records, her sisters married into the blevins family ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Reynolds" <[email protected]>. To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > Hello, Earleene! > > This is one of those hard ones because there is an awful lot of bad > information out there about Sarah's alleged lineage. At most she > would have been 1/32, if I have counted right, maybe 1/16th but no > more than that. I am assuming you have probably seen some of the > family trees on the web that have her several times great grandmother > as Princess Cornblossom Doublehead or Cornblossom Chuqualatague > Doublehead Shawnee (married to Daniel Belvins)? This last name is the > way Don Greene shows lineage in his books on the Shawnee - all of > which are totally unsupported and unsourced - and not a name at all. > Chuqualatague was simply another name that was attributed to > Doublehead. Some of the trees have Sarah's mother or grandmother > married to Jacob "Big Jake" Troxell after the death of their fist > husband, others have Cornblossom married to Jake Troxell after > Daniel's death. All of them have a huge mess when it comes to > children in those earlier generations, largely because there is > absolutley ZERO documentation on them and multiple families are mixed > together. > > There are a few things in those trees that tip them off as incorrect. > The first is PRINCESS. There were no Native American princesses. > That was the Englishman's designation for the daughter of a chief, but > the daughters were not royalty, nor were the sons and they had no > special place of precedence because of their father's position. > > The second is Shawnee. There is a lovely tale on the internet that > has John Pasmere Carpenter married to a Shawnee lass named Pride in > Jamestown, Virginia Colony in about 1627 or 1628. They supposedly had > a son named A-ma-do-ya who became chief at Chota later in the mid > 1600s, founding the Cherokee Moytoy line. It's a lovely story, but it > is just that. Virginia records disprove it. John Pasmere Carpenter > did not exist. John Pasmore, a carpenter of James City, later > Jamestown, did exist and it is an INDEX entry from the Virginia > Library digital land records that gives rise to the other name. The > index entry is in error as the land lease clearly shows. If you would > like the documentation, I will be happy to send it to you. Still it > IS a pretty story, it's just fiction, not fact. > > Third, Doublehead was well known and his line is well documented. > Maybe one of his daughters' names could be translated Cornblossom, but > none are documented with that name. Their husbands are all known and > none includes a Blevins or a Troxell. Two of his daughters married > Colonel James Colbert, a half-blood Chickasaw, near what is now Muscle > Shoals, AL. > > Fourth, many of them have Cornblossom as born about 1758 and her first > child born two years later in 1760. Maybe if she were 12 or 14 there > would be a chance, but not TWO! > > Fifth, they all use modern place names. They have Jonathan Blevins > (my research indicates he probably was Sarah's father) as born in > Wayne County, KY about 1780. At the time of his birth, the area might > have been Lincoln County or Kentucky County, depending on when in the > year he was born, but BOTH were in Virginia. Kentucky did not become > a state until 1792. On the 1850 census, he showed birth place of > Virginia, which was true. Wayne County did not exist until 1800. In > time order from colonial days it was Kentucky County, Lincoln County, > Green County, Cumberland County and Pulaski County - the last two > ceding land to the new county when Wayne was formed. If they had done > their research, they would know the information was incorrect, but it > was apparently just copied and pasted or appended. > > I don't see anything in the portions of Sarah's heritage I can verify > that lead to the Cherokee and a blood connection there. As far as I > know, the Troxell story has been discredited, but I may be mistaken on > that - Joy or Joyce, can you help my memory? I have very deep roots in > Wayne County, KY, but there is nothing in the history of the area that > leads me to believe the Cherokees played a significant role there, if > any. What I do find of your families is the same story for most of > the early settlers - Virginians who either moved there and claimed > Revolutionary Bounty Land in the area, or the younger sons of Virginia > households who had no real future in their home counties looking for a > start in life with real possibilities. For some born in Virginia and > Virginia Colony, they never moved at all - the county and state lines > moved around them. Many colonial Virginia families DID have mixed > heritages, but it was largely mixed black and white. In the early > years of the colony Free Blacks were accorded the same respect and > status as the white colonists. In fact, it was far more respectable > to be a Free Black than to be an indentured servant. Indentureds > were treated worse than slaves because they had come to the colonies > poor with hat in hand, where slaves had value to the planters (not my > feelings at all, but that was the thinking of those days). It was > illegal for indentured servants to marry anyone other than an > indentured servant and many, especially the women, "married" slaves. > In later years when prejudice against the black community had arisen, > it was far easier, more acceptable, and safer to claim being half > Indian than being Mulatto. Indians were not chased by slave catchers > so much. So, those who could hide in plain sight as white did, while > those with darker skin hid in plain sight as Indians. Italians, > Portuguese, and so on. > > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Earleene <[email protected]> wrote: >> Trying to confirm heritage of sarah steel,daughter of christian steel and >> elizabeth blevins. sarah said she was 1/2 cherokee. she married abramham >> tinker from unicoi tn,they setteled in dade co ga & dekalb co al. she is >> my3rd great grandmother. earleene >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting >> is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is > required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. 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hi susan,i have lots of info on wayne co ky,i will share it,i'm having a medical problem so i will have to do it as i can, real back problem,, june bork was a teacher in wayne co ky & saw a need to record the history of it before it was all gone,i think she did about three books, sara steel was the daughter of christian steel & elizabeth blevins the marriage of them is recorded, they had 4 kids but sarah & eli are the only ones i can find. christian was in the war of 1812, he was with Tauals mounted regement. when he got out they migrated to deer head cove in ala/ga as it is directly on state line. he died and she married george jacob troxell ,they had one child eliza lousia troxell,there are a lot of decendent in dade co ga. also records of this. as for cornblossom,she was daughter of double head ,don't know about being a princess,it is mentioned in records, her sisters married into the blevins family ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Reynolds" <[email protected]>. To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > Hello, Earleene! > > This is one of those hard ones because there is an awful lot of bad > information out there about Sarah's alleged lineage. At most she > would have been 1/32, if I have counted right, maybe 1/16th but no > more than that. I am assuming you have probably seen some of the > family trees on the web that have her several times great grandmother > as Princess Cornblossom Doublehead or Cornblossom Chuqualatague > Doublehead Shawnee (married to Daniel Belvins)? This last name is the > way Don Greene shows lineage in his books on the Shawnee - all of > which are totally unsupported and unsourced - and not a name at all. > Chuqualatague was simply another name that was attributed to > Doublehead. Some of the trees have Sarah's mother or grandmother > married to Jacob "Big Jake" Troxell after the death of their fist > husband, others have Cornblossom married to Jake Troxell after > Daniel's death. All of them have a huge mess when it comes to > children in those earlier generations, largely because there is > absolutley ZERO documentation on them and multiple families are mixed > together. > > There are a few things in those trees that tip them off as incorrect. > The first is PRINCESS. There were no Native American princesses. > That was the Englishman's designation for the daughter of a chief, but > the daughters were not royalty, nor were the sons and they had no > special place of precedence because of their father's position. > > The second is Shawnee. There is a lovely tale on the internet that > has John Pasmere Carpenter married to a Shawnee lass named Pride in > Jamestown, Virginia Colony in about 1627 or 1628. They supposedly had > a son named A-ma-do-ya who became chief at Chota later in the mid > 1600s, founding the Cherokee Moytoy line. It's a lovely story, but it > is just that. Virginia records disprove it. John Pasmere Carpenter > did not exist. John Pasmore, a carpenter of James City, later > Jamestown, did exist and it is an INDEX entry from the Virginia > Library digital land records that gives rise to the other name. The > index entry is in error as the land lease clearly shows. If you would > like the documentation, I will be happy to send it to you. Still it > IS a pretty story, it's just fiction, not fact. > > Third, Doublehead was well known and his line is well documented. > Maybe one of his daughters' names could be translated Cornblossom, but > none are documented with that name. Their husbands are all known and > none includes a Blevins or a Troxell. Two of his daughters married > Colonel James Colbert, a half-blood Chickasaw, near what is now Muscle > Shoals, AL. > > Fourth, many of them have Cornblossom as born about 1758 and her first > child born two years later in 1760. Maybe if she were 12 or 14 there > would be a chance, but not TWO! > > Fifth, they all use modern place names. They have Jonathan Blevins > (my research indicates he probably was Sarah's father) as born in > Wayne County, KY about 1780. At the time of his birth, the area might > have been Lincoln County or Kentucky County, depending on when in the > year he was born, but BOTH were in Virginia. Kentucky did not become > a state until 1792. On the 1850 census, he showed birth place of > Virginia, which was true. Wayne County did not exist until 1800. In > time order from colonial days it was Kentucky County, Lincoln County, > Green County, Cumberland County and Pulaski County - the last two > ceding land to the new county when Wayne was formed. If they had done > their research, they would know the information was incorrect, but it > was apparently just copied and pasted or appended. > > I don't see anything in the portions of Sarah's heritage I can verify > that lead to the Cherokee and a blood connection there. As far as I > know, the Troxell story has been discredited, but I may be mistaken on > that - Joy or Joyce, can you help my memory? I have very deep roots in > Wayne County, KY, but there is nothing in the history of the area that > leads me to believe the Cherokees played a significant role there, if > any. What I do find of your families is the same story for most of > the early settlers - Virginians who either moved there and claimed > Revolutionary Bounty Land in the area, or the younger sons of Virginia > households who had no real future in their home counties looking for a > start in life with real possibilities. For some born in Virginia and > Virginia Colony, they never moved at all - the county and state lines > moved around them. Many colonial Virginia families DID have mixed > heritages, but it was largely mixed black and white. In the early > years of the colony Free Blacks were accorded the same respect and > status as the white colonists. In fact, it was far more respectable > to be a Free Black than to be an indentured servant. Indentureds > were treated worse than slaves because they had come to the colonies > poor with hat in hand, where slaves had value to the planters (not my > feelings at all, but that was the thinking of those days). It was > illegal for indentured servants to marry anyone other than an > indentured servant and many, especially the women, "married" slaves. > In later years when prejudice against the black community had arisen, > it was far easier, more acceptable, and safer to claim being half > Indian than being Mulatto. Indians were not chased by slave catchers > so much. So, those who could hide in plain sight as white did, while > those with darker skin hid in plain sight as Indians. Italians, > Portuguese, and so on. > > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Earleene <[email protected]> wrote: >> Trying to confirm heritage of sarah steel,daughter of christian steel and >> elizabeth blevins. sarah said she was 1/2 cherokee. she married abramham >> tinker from unicoi tn,they setteled in dade co ga & dekalb co al. she is >> my3rd great grandmother. earleene >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting >> is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is > required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Ok, but that's not what you said. You said she got it all mixed up. I think if you would just said that this was your family (or your line) it would have made more sense..... but that's probably just me LOL I just read it to mean that she didn't have the information right as it was mixed up & not in the right order (like son married to the mother in law daughter married to brother....that sort of thing) :) Alli :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Earleene" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > ali,i said that because this is not my family
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ali,i said that because this is not my family ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli :)" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > Ok now I'm confused LOL > > How can you say someone has families mixed up just because you didn't hear > this particular story? THere's no connection there. There's a lot of > things > I've heard about my ancestor's that wasn't around when i started or even > 1/2 > way LOL but it helps to learn new things (for me) & if i can prove them > wrong.....then its a feather in my cap so to speak LOL > > Alli :) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Earleene" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 11:35 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > > >>I have never heard this story, i will look up mine.& get back to you >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alli :)" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:32 AM >> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage >> >> >>> what is mixed up? > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is > required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Alli, As Susan and Joy can tell you there has long been a controversy concerning the validity of the Doublehead, Cornblossom, Troxell family genealogy. I am of the opinion that it’s a total farce. I won't attempt to speak for the others but do believe they agree. The Blevins family is involved in the Troxell's. This may be where the confusion began. Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Alli :) Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage Ok now I'm confused LOL How can you say someone has families mixed up just because you didn't hear this particular story? THere's no connection there. There's a lot of things I've heard about my ancestor's that wasn't around when i started or even 1/2 way LOL but it helps to learn new things (for me) & if i can prove them wrong.....then its a feather in my cap so to speak LOL Alli :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Earleene" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage >I have never heard this story, i will look up mine.& get back to you > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alli :)" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:32 AM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > > >> what is mixed up? =====*NOTICE THIS*===== this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Well, there definitely has been controversy since I've been online, so I'm sure its been going on for quite a while & will continue until facts are shared. :) Its just nice to present facts before saying its wrong :) Alli:) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > Alli, As Susan and Joy can tell you there has long been a controversy > concerning the validity of the Doublehead, Cornblossom, Troxell family > genealogy. I am of the opinion that it’s a total farce. I won't attempt > to > speak for the others but do believe they agree. The Blevins family is > involved in the Troxell's. This may be where the confusion began. > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece
Ok now I'm confused LOL How can you say someone has families mixed up just because you didn't hear this particular story? THere's no connection there. There's a lot of things I've heard about my ancestor's that wasn't around when i started or even 1/2 way LOL but it helps to learn new things (for me) & if i can prove them wrong.....then its a feather in my cap so to speak LOL Alli :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Earleene" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage >I have never heard this story, i will look up mine.& get back to you > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alli :)" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:32 AM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > > >> what is mixed up?
Not really, gold was just one of the reasons but by far not the only one. Joyce Gaston Reece
remember,gold was found in ga,reason for removal of indians ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli :)" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:27 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > I'm going to have to dig out my paper to see which & what mine > is......this > subject has answered a few questions ;) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 1:15 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > > >> Bounty Land in Tennessee was always for the War of 1812. The Rev. War >> Grants were done before TN was a state so they are listed as North >> Carolina >> Rev. War Land grants in Tennessee. The Hiwassee Purchase formed McMinn >> and >> Monroe Countys. That was the first time a grid system had laid out >> parcels >> of land. They were 6 square miles...36 sections. Each section was 1 sq >> mi. >> Each section was laid out in 'corners'. The corners were northwest, >> northeast, southwest, southeast. Each corner could have been divided >> also. >> They were in 40, 80, 120, 160 or 320 acre portions. >> Several of these were set aside as military grants. Some were already >> laid >> out in 1817-1819 as Cherokee Indian Reservations of 640 acres each (a sq. >> mi.) >> >> So, if the emigrants from Wayne Co, KY were coming into McMinn and Monroe >> to >> move onto Bounty Land grants this would have been the reason why. >> >> >> >> Joyce Gaston Reece >> >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting >> is >> required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is > required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have never heard this story, i will look up mine.& get back to you ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli :)" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > what is mixed up? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Earleene" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:20 PM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > > >> you have several families mixed up you do not have my family, >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Susan Reynolds" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage >> >> >>> Hello, Earleene! >>> >>> This is one of those hard ones because there is an awful lot of bad >>> information out there about Sarah's alleged lineage. At most she >>> would have been 1/32, if I have counted right, maybe 1/16th but no >>> more than that. I am assuming you have probably seen some of the >>> family trees on the web that have her several times great grandmother >>> as Princess Cornblossom Doublehead or Cornblossom Chuqualatague >>> Doublehead Shawnee (married to Daniel Belvins)? This last name is the >>> way Don Greene shows lineage in his books on the Shawnee - all of >>> which are totally unsupported and unsourced - and not a name at all. >>> Chuqualatague was simply another name that was attributed to >>> Doublehead. Some of the trees have Sarah's mother or grandmother >>> married to Jacob "Big Jake" Troxell after the death of their fist >>> husband, others have Cornblossom married to Jake Troxell after >>> Daniel's death. All of them have a huge mess when it comes to >>> children in those earlier generations, largely because there is >>> absolutley ZERO documentation on them and multiple families are mixed >>> together. >>> >>> There are a few things in those trees that tip them off as incorrect. >>> The first is PRINCESS. There were no Native American princesses. >>> That was the Englishman's designation for the daughter of a chief, but >>> the daughters were not royalty, nor were the sons and they had no >>> special place of precedence because of their father's position. >>> >>> The second is Shawnee. There is a lovely tale on the internet that >>> has John Pasmere Carpenter married to a Shawnee lass named Pride in >>> Jamestown, Virginia Colony in about 1627 or 1628. They supposedly had >>> a son named A-ma-do-ya who became chief at Chota later in the mid >>> 1600s, founding the Cherokee Moytoy line. It's a lovely story, but it >>> is just that. Virginia records disprove it. John Pasmere Carpenter >>> did not exist. John Pasmore, a carpenter of James City, later >>> Jamestown, did exist and it is an INDEX entry from the Virginia >>> Library digital land records that gives rise to the other name. The >>> index entry is in error as the land lease clearly shows. If you would >>> like the documentation, I will be happy to send it to you. Still it >>> IS a pretty story, it's just fiction, not fact. >>> >>> Third, Doublehead was well known and his line is well documented. >>> Maybe one of his daughters' names could be translated Cornblossom, but >>> none are documented with that name. Their husbands are all known and >>> none includes a Blevins or a Troxell. Two of his daughters married >>> Colonel James Colbert, a half-blood Chickasaw, near what is now Muscle >>> Shoals, AL. >>> >>> Fourth, many of them have Cornblossom as born about 1758 and her first >>> child born two years later in 1760. Maybe if she were 12 or 14 there >>> would be a chance, but not TWO! >>> >>> Fifth, they all use modern place names. They have Jonathan Blevins >>> (my research indicates he probably was Sarah's father) as born in >>> Wayne County, KY about 1780. At the time of his birth, the area might >>> have been Lincoln County or Kentucky County, depending on when in the >>> year he was born, but BOTH were in Virginia. Kentucky did not become >>> a state until 1792. On the 1850 census, he showed birth place of >>> Virginia, which was true. Wayne County did not exist until 1800. In >>> time order from colonial days it was Kentucky County, Lincoln County, >>> Green County, Cumberland County and Pulaski County - the last two >>> ceding land to the new county when Wayne was formed. If they had done >>> their research, they would know the information was incorrect, but it >>> was apparently just copied and pasted or appended. >>> >>> I don't see anything in the portions of Sarah's heritage I can verify >>> that lead to the Cherokee and a blood connection there. As far as I >>> know, the Troxell story has been discredited, but I may be mistaken on >>> that - Joy or Joyce, can you help my memory? I have very deep roots in >>> Wayne County, KY, but there is nothing in the history of the area that >>> leads me to believe the Cherokees played a significant role there, if >>> any. What I do find of your families is the same story for most of >>> the early settlers - Virginians who either moved there and claimed >>> Revolutionary Bounty Land in the area, or the younger sons of Virginia >>> households who had no real future in their home counties looking for a >>> start in life with real possibilities. For some born in Virginia and >>> Virginia Colony, they never moved at all - the county and state lines >>> moved around them. Many colonial Virginia families DID have mixed >>> heritages, but it was largely mixed black and white. In the early >>> years of the colony Free Blacks were accorded the same respect and >>> status as the white colonists. In fact, it was far more respectable >>> to be a Free Black than to be an indentured servant. Indentureds >>> were treated worse than slaves because they had come to the colonies >>> poor with hat in hand, where slaves had value to the planters (not my >>> feelings at all, but that was the thinking of those days). It was >>> illegal for indentured servants to marry anyone other than an >>> indentured servant and many, especially the women, "married" slaves. >>> In later years when prejudice against the black community had arisen, >>> it was far easier, more acceptable, and safer to claim being half >>> Indian than being Mulatto. Indians were not chased by slave catchers >>> so much. So, those who could hide in plain sight as white did, while >>> those with darker skin hid in plain sight as Indians. Italians, >>> Portuguese, and so on. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Earleene <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> Trying to confirm heritage of sarah steel,daughter of christian steel >>>> and >>>> elizabeth blevins. sarah said she was 1/2 cherokee. she married >>>> abramham >>>> tinker from unicoi tn,they setteled in dade co ga & dekalb co al. she >>>> is >>>> my3rd great grandmother. earleene >>>> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >>>> this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain >>>> chatting >>>> is required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. >>>> >>>> Rude people will be moderated asap! >>>> List archive >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >>>> Dual admin. >>>> Dan and Joyce >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >>> this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting >>> is >>> required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. >>> >>> Rude people will be moderated asap! >>> List archive >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >>> Dual admin. >>> Dan and Joyce >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting >> is >> required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is > required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I'm going to have to dig out my paper to see which & what mine is......this subject has answered a few questions ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > Bounty Land in Tennessee was always for the War of 1812. The Rev. War > Grants were done before TN was a state so they are listed as North > Carolina > Rev. War Land grants in Tennessee. The Hiwassee Purchase formed McMinn > and > Monroe Countys. That was the first time a grid system had laid out > parcels > of land. They were 6 square miles...36 sections. Each section was 1 sq > mi. > Each section was laid out in 'corners'. The corners were northwest, > northeast, southwest, southeast. Each corner could have been divided > also. > They were in 40, 80, 120, 160 or 320 acre portions. > Several of these were set aside as military grants. Some were already > laid > out in 1817-1819 as Cherokee Indian Reservations of 640 acres each (a sq. > mi.) > > So, if the emigrants from Wayne Co, KY were coming into McMinn and Monroe > to > move onto Bounty Land grants this would have been the reason why. > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is > required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Bounty Land in Tennessee was always for the War of 1812. The Rev. War Grants were done before TN was a state so they are listed as North Carolina Rev. War Land grants in Tennessee. The Hiwassee Purchase formed McMinn and Monroe Countys. That was the first time a grid system had laid out parcels of land. They were 6 square miles...36 sections. Each section was 1 sq mi. Each section was laid out in 'corners'. The corners were northwest, northeast, southwest, southeast. Each corner could have been divided also. They were in 40, 80, 120, 160 or 320 acre portions. Several of these were set aside as military grants. Some were already laid out in 1817-1819 as Cherokee Indian Reservations of 640 acres each (a sq. mi.) So, if the emigrants from Wayne Co, KY were coming into McMinn and Monroe to move onto Bounty Land grants this would have been the reason why. Joyce Gaston Reece
no worries, I misspell or forget to fix things constantly, but I wanted to make sure I was reading the name right ----- Original Message ----- From: "Earleene" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > sorry about the wording. june bork was a teacher in wayne co ky,she saw a > need to record everything about the county history & its residents & she > did. I think there are three book, have lots of info in them > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alli :)" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:35 AM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage > > >> Earleene, can you re-ask your question as there's a lot of spelling >> errors >> & >> I'm curious about the book by June ?? that you mention. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Earleene" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:28 PM >> Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] heritage >> >> >>> did you reas june borks bppks from wayne co ky >> >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting >> is >> required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > this is a generic list; and not topic specific because certain chatting is > required to do genealogy; and sort fact from fiction. > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
· Kentucky Beginings Daniel Boone a.. b.. In 1772, he was living inside the eastern end of future Tennessee at a place called Sapling Grove, probably with Rebecca and family. In September 1773, he and Squire Jr. joined pioneer families heading into Kentucky for settlement, but most returned after an Indian attack. In 1774, James Harrod founded Fort Harrod, the first settlement in Kentucky. Harrod later became engaged in Lord Dunsmore’s War along 250 miles of frontier and the 1774 Battle of Point Pleasant (now West Virginia) along the Ohio River. In 1775, Daniel Boone began clearing the Wilderness Road for settlers coming into Kentucky to purchase lands from Henderson’s Transylvania Company. During the same year, Boone and his party began building Boonesborough, Madison County, Kentucky. The rest of the story is well captured in many books. Two of his sons, James Boone (1757-1773) and Israel Boone (1759-1782), were killed by Indians during the early Kentucky years. On the 1st of April, 1775, Daniel Boone, Richard Henderson and their companions, reached the southern bank of the Kentucky River, and began to build a fort, afterwards known as Boonesborough. The names of those persons and/or families known to have resided in or near the Fort Boonesborough and Boone's Station area follow: John ALLEN, Richard ALLEN, Thomas ALLEN, Aletha ANDERSON, James ANDERSON, Jemima ANDERSON, John ANDERSON, Mary ANDERSON, Nicholas ANDERSON, John ANTHONY, Joseph ANTHONY, Uriel ARK, Daniel ASHBY, l Thomas BAILEY, Isaac BAKER, Bland BALLARD, Abraham BANTA, Henry BANTA Jr., Henry BANTA Sr., John BANTA, James BARBORN, Samuel BARKER, William BARKER, Alex BARNETT, Abrose BARNETT, James BARNETT, John BARNETT, Joseph BARNETT, Robert BARNETT, James BARNHILL, David BARTON, Joab BARTON, Joshua BARTON, Samuel BARTON, Thomas BARTON, Williasm BARTON, Catherine BAUGHMAN, Jacob BAUGHMAN, John BAUGHMAN, Col. Edward BAXTER, Charles BEALE, G. 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Margaret White MCMILLAN, Thomas MCQUEEN, William MCWHINNEY, George MADDEN, James MANKINS, John MANNEN, John MARTIN, William MARTIN, Jesse MAUPIN, William MAYS, George MERIWEATHER, Nicholas MERIWEATHER, David MILLER, Thomas MILLER, William MILLER, Michael MIRAS, Alex MONTGOMERY, John MONTGOMERY, Charles MOORE, John MOORE, William MOORE, John MORGAN, Ralph MORGAN, William MORGAN, Jesse MORRIS, William MORRIS, Richard MORRISON, John MORTON, Thomas MOSELY, John MOUNCE or MOURNER, Jacob MYERS, Alexander NEELEY, Edward NELSON, Mrs. Edward NELSON, John NELSON, Moses NELSON, John NEWBY, Abraham NEWLAND, Thomas NOEL, Jesse OLDHAM, Tyree OLDHAM, Michael OVERSTREET, William O'REAR, Thomas M. OWENS, John Cockey OWINGS, Clough OVERTON, Lt. James PATTON, Richard PATTERSON, William PATTERSON, James PEAKE, Jesse PEAKE, John PEAKE, Joshua PENNIX, Peter PENNYBACKER, James PERRY, Richard PETERSON, Anny Duffey PEYTON, Yelverton PEYTON, Anthony PHELPS, Edwin PHELPS, Elizabeth PHELPS, George PHELPS, Guy PHELPS, John PHELPS, Joshua PHELPS, Josiah PHELPS, Lucy PHELPS, Sarah PHELPS, Thomas PHELPS, William PHILLIPS, John PITTMAN, John PLEAKENSTALVER, John PLECK, John POGUE, William POGUE, Mrs. William POGUE, Samuel PORTER, Page PORTWOOD, Sam PORTWOOD, Levin POWELL, James PROCTOR, John PROCTOR, Joseph PROCTOR, Capt. Nicholas PROCTOR, Nicholas PROCTOR Jr., Rachel PROCTOR, Reuben PROCTOR, James QUISENBERRY, Benjamin QUINN, James QUINN, Thomas QUINN, John RANK, Nicholas RAY, Alexander REED, JOhn RICE, Joseph RICE, Samuel RICE, Benejamin ROBERTS, Davidn ROBINSON, George ROBINSON, Samuel ROBINSON, William ROBINSON, Col. Robert RHODES, Pemberton ROLLINS, Ambrose ROSS, Hugh ROSS, Gen. Christopher RIFFE, Fred RIPPERDAM, Mrs. Fred RIPPERDAM, James RUSSELL, Samuel SANDERS, John SAPPINGTON, William SCHOLL, Anderson SEARCY, Asa SEARCY, Bartlett SEARCY, Charles SEARCY, Reuben SEARCY, Richard SEARCY Jr., Richard SEARCY Sr.,. Samuel SEARCY, William SEARCY, James SCOTT, Hugh SEFER, Hugh SHIELDS, David SHELBY, Isaac SHELBY, David SHELTON, Charles SHIRLEY, Katie SHIRLEY, Michael SHIRLEY, Thomas SHORES, Col. Thomas SLAUGHTER, Enoch SMITH, Encoh George SMITH, John SMITH, Maj. William Bailey SMITH, John SNODDY, Samuel SNODDY, John SOUTH Jr., John SOUTH Sr., Mrs. John SOUTH, Samuel SOUTH, Thomas SOUTH, Richard SPURR, William STAGG, Barney STAGNER, John STAPLETON, Jacob STARNES, Joseph STARNES, Jacob STEARNS, John STEPHENSON, Dudley STONE, Michael STONER, Samuel STRODE, Berue SWEARINGEN, Benoni SWEARINGEN, Thomas SWEARINGEN, Hale TALBOTT, John TANNER, John TATE, Robert TATE, Samuel TATE, Edmond TAYLOR, John TAYLOR, Nancy TAYLOR, Peter W. TAYLOR, Richard TAYLOR, John TERRELL, Robert TERRELL, James THOMAS, Moses THOMAS, James THOMPSON, Lawrence THOMPSON, Col. John TODD, William TOMLINSON, Gerrett TOWNSEND, Joshual TOWNSEND, Oswald TOWNSEND, Thomas TRIBBLE, David TURNER, John TURNER, Solomon TURPIN, William TURPIN, Capt. Thomas TWIDDY, William TWIDDY, William UMPHREY, Benoni VALLANDIGHAM, Lewis VALLANDIGHAM, Joel VASSAR, Richard WADE, Joel WALKER, Isaac WANE, David P. WALKER, Felix WALKER, Robert WALTON, Thomas WARREN, James WARTON, Capt. Charles G. WATKINS, James WATKINS, John WEBBER, Walter WELCH, Richard WELLS, Ambrose WHITE, Aquilla WHITE, Galen WHITE, Robert WHITLEDGE, Capt. John WHITTAKER, Billy WILCOX, Sally Boone WILCOX, Daniel WILCOXON, Elizabeth WILCOXON, John WILCOXON, Rachel WILCOXON, Aletha Anderson WILKERSON, John WILKERSON, Mrs. John WILKERSON, Moses WILKERSON, Wyatt WILKERSON, William WILLIAMS, Edward WILLIAMS, Jarrett WILLIAMS, John WILLIAMS, Richard WITLEDGE, Moses WILSON, Adams WOODS, Capt. Archibald WOODS, John WOODS, Samuel WOODS, Samuel WOODSON, Capt. Edward WORTHINGTON, John WRIGHT, James WESTERVELDT (Westerfield), John WITHERS, James YATES, Jesse YOCUM Joyce Gaston Reece