Ancestry.com has sold out recently. BARB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theodore R VonBartheld" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 1:24 PM Subject: [CherokeeGene] Are Any of the Paid Sites Having = OPEN DOOR toSITE'S for the holidays like Ancestry.com did before? > Hello Everyone > > > > I was Just if any of the paid sites were having OPEN DOOR to their SITE"S > for the holidays like Ancestry.com did in the past, I wonder if they will > this year? > > > > Thank you until we talk again, peace be with you and yours. > > Theodore R. VonBartheld > > [email protected] > > > > PS: happy Holidays to everyone and best wishes to all. > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Okay, Peggy, Don't forget....we've got some new stuff on them. Joyce Gaston Reece

Joyce, I'll get back to you about the Rapers after Christmas. Thanks and have a Merry Christmas. P.L. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Joyce Gaston Reece <[email protected]>wrote: > Didn't bother me a bit to throw Dan under THAT bus............lol > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > -----Original Message----- > From: Peggy Lambert > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] where > > Joyce, what you mean calling me one of the old guys? > > P.L. > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Dj M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > That would be interesting. > > We ignore all records until we talk to the old guys. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joyce Gaston Reece > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:50 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [CherokeeGene] where > > > > WHERE WITH THE Cherokee? Do we need to go see them...who do we need to > > talk > > to? Where are the records located? > > > > > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > List archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > Dual admin. > > Dan and Joyce > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > List archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > Dual admin. > > Dan and Joyce > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Didn't bother me a bit to throw Dan under THAT bus............lol Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Lambert Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] where Joyce, what you mean calling me one of the old guys? P.L. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Dj M <[email protected]> wrote: > That would be interesting. > We ignore all records until we talk to the old guys. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joyce Gaston Reece > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:50 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CherokeeGene] where > > WHERE WITH THE Cherokee? Do we need to go see them...who do we need to > talk > to? Where are the records located? > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Weren't me, Peggy....that was Dan.....I'd NEVER call you OLD. We all know you're well under 30. lol Are you interested in any of the research we're doing on the Rapers? Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Lambert Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] where Joyce, what you mean calling me one of the old guys? P.L.

Joyce, what you mean calling me one of the old guys? P.L. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Dj M <[email protected]> wrote: > That would be interesting. > We ignore all records until we talk to the old guys. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joyce Gaston Reece > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:50 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CherokeeGene] where > > WHERE WITH THE Cherokee? Do we need to go see them...who do we need to > talk > to? Where are the records located? > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Everyone I was Just if any of the paid sites were having OPEN DOOR to their SITE"S for the holidays like Ancestry.com did in the past, I wonder if they will this year? Thank you until we talk again, peace be with you and yours. Theodore R. VonBartheld [email protected] PS: happy Holidays to everyone and best wishes to all.

Genealogical research process Genealogical research is a complex process that uses historical records and sometimes genetic analysis to demonstrate kinship. Reliable conclusions are based on the quality of sources, ideally original records, the information within those sources, ideally primary or firsthand information, and the evidence that can be drawn, directly or indirectly, from that information. In many instances, genealogists must skillfully assemble indirect or circumstantial evidence to build a case for identity and kinship. All evidence and conclusions, together with the documentation that supports them, is then assembled to create a cohesive genealogy or family history.[8] Genealogists begin their research by collecting family documents and stories. This creates a foundation for documentary research, which involves examining and evaluating historical records for evidence about ancestors and other relatives, their kinship ties, and the events that occurred in their lives. As a rule, genealogists begin with the present and work backward in time. Historical, social, and family context is essential to achieving correct identification of individuals and relationships. Source citation is also important when conducting genealogical research.[9] To keep track of collected material, family group sheets and pedigree charts are used. Formerly handwritten, these can now be generated by genealogical software. Genetic analysis Because a person's DNA contains information that has been passed down relatively unchanged from early ancestors, analysis of DNA is sometimes used for genealogical research. Three DNA types are of particular interest: mitochondrial DNA that we all possess and that is passed down with only minor mutations through the matrilineal (direct female) line; the Y-chromosome, present only in males, which is passed down with only minor mutations through the patrilineal (direct male) line; and the Autosomal DNA, which is found in the 22 non-gender specific chromosomes (autosomes) inherited from both parents, which can uncover relatives from any branch of the family. A genealogical DNA test allows two individuals to find the probability that they are, or are not, related within an estimated number of generations. Individual genetic test results are collected in databases to match people descended from a relatively recent common ancestor. See, for example, the Molecular Genealogy Research Project. These tests are limited to either the patrilineal or the matrilineal line. Records in genealogical research Genealogists use a wide variety of records in their research. To effectively conduct genealogical research, it is important to understand how the records were created, what information is included in them, and how and where to access them. Records that are used in genealogy research include: a.. Vital records a.. Birth records b.. Death records c.. Marriage and divorce records b.. Adoption records c.. Biographies and biographical profiles (e.g. Who's Who) d.. Census records e.. Church records a.. Baptism or christening b.. Confirmation c.. Bar or bat mitzvah d.. Marriage e.. Funeral or death f.. Membership f.. City directories[11] and telephone directories g.. Coroner's reports h.. Court records a.. Criminal records b.. Civil records i.. Diaries, personal letters and family Bibles j.. Emigration, immigration and naturalization records k.. Hereditary & lineage organization records, e.g. Daughters of the American Revolution records l.. Land and property records, deeds m.. Medical records n.. Military and conscription records o.. Newspaper articles p.. Obituaries q.. Occupational records r.. Oral histories s.. Passports t.. Photographs u.. Poorhouse, workhouse, almshouse, and asylum records v.. School and alumni association records w.. Ship passenger lists x.. Social Security (within the US) and pension records y.. Tax records z.. Tombstones, cemetery records, and funeral home records aa.. Voter registration records ab.. Wills and probate records Joyce Gaston Reece

WHERE WITH THE Cherokee? Do we need to go see them...who do we need to talk to? Where are the records located? Joyce Gaston Reece

I saw the oral hearsays down there. Not accepted, but used in place of real info. Oh yea when all else fails, sign up to ancestry. They have all the answers I heard. -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Gaston Reece Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CherokeeGene] defining genealogy Genealogical research process Genealogical research is a complex process that uses historical records and sometimes genetic analysis to demonstrate kinship. Reliable conclusions are based on the quality of sources, ideally original records, the information within those sources, ideally primary or firsthand information, and the evidence that can be drawn, directly or indirectly, from that information. In many instances, genealogists must skillfully assemble indirect or circumstantial evidence to build a case for identity and kinship. All evidence and conclusions, together with the documentation that supports them, is then assembled to create a cohesive genealogy or family history.[8] Genealogists begin their research by collecting family documents and stories. This creates a foundation for documentary research, which involves examining and evaluating historical records for evidence about ancestors and other relatives, their kinship ties, and the events that occurred in their lives. As a rule, genealogists begin with the present and work backward in time. Historical, social, and family context is essential to achieving correct identification of individuals and relationships. Source citation is also important when conducting genealogical research.[9] To keep track of collected material, family group sheets and pedigree charts are used. Formerly handwritten, these can now be generated by genealogical software. Genetic analysis Because a person's DNA contains information that has been passed down relatively unchanged from early ancestors, analysis of DNA is sometimes used for genealogical research. Three DNA types are of particular interest: mitochondrial DNA that we all possess and that is passed down with only minor mutations through the matrilineal (direct female) line; the Y-chromosome, present only in males, which is passed down with only minor mutations through the patrilineal (direct male) line; and the Autosomal DNA, which is found in the 22 non-gender specific chromosomes (autosomes) inherited from both parents, which can uncover relatives from any branch of the family. A genealogical DNA test allows two individuals to find the probability that they are, or are not, related within an estimated number of generations. Individual genetic test results are collected in databases to match people descended from a relatively recent common ancestor. See, for example, the Molecular Genealogy Research Project. These tests are limited to either the patrilineal or the matrilineal line. Records in genealogical research Genealogists use a wide variety of records in their research. To effectively conduct genealogical research, it is important to understand how the records were created, what information is included in them, and how and where to access them. Records that are used in genealogy research include: a.. Vital records a.. Birth records b.. Death records c.. Marriage and divorce records b.. Adoption records c.. Biographies and biographical profiles (e.g. Who's Who) d.. Census records e.. Church records a.. Baptism or christening b.. Confirmation c.. Bar or bat mitzvah d.. Marriage e.. Funeral or death f.. Membership f.. City directories[11] and telephone directories g.. Coroner's reports h.. Court records a.. Criminal records b.. Civil records i.. Diaries, personal letters and family Bibles j.. Emigration, immigration and naturalization records k.. Hereditary & lineage organization records, e.g. Daughters of the American Revolution records l.. Land and property records, deeds m.. Medical records n.. Military and conscription records o.. Newspaper articles p.. Obituaries q.. Occupational records r.. Oral histories s.. Passports t.. Photographs u.. Poorhouse, workhouse, almshouse, and asylum records v.. School and alumni association records w.. Ship passenger lists x.. Social Security (within the US) and pension records y.. Tax records z.. Tombstones, cemetery records, and funeral home records aa.. Voter registration records ab.. Wills and probate records Joyce Gaston Reece =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That would be interesting. We ignore all records until we talk to the old guys. -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Gaston Reece Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CherokeeGene] where WHERE WITH THE Cherokee? Do we need to go see them...who do we need to talk to? Where are the records located? Joyce Gaston Reece =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

With the Cherokee. Either Cherokee Nation or Cherokee Registry. If you want some answers , you need to go to the Cherokee , not government documentation. BARB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert H Appleby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] John McDaniel > Moytoy in a google search does not come up with any genealogical site. > > On Dec 11, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Alli :) <[email protected]> wrote: > > > See Moytoy where? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] John McDaniel > > > > > >> The McDaniel's joined the early Cherokee linage. See Moytoy. > >> > >> BARB > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > List archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > Dual admin. > > Dan and Joyce > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Robert H Appleby (Bob) > 207 Watts St > Durham, NC 27701-2036 > 919-682-8902 > [email protected] > > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I think we have someone that has Long's in their tree, but not sure if Debbie is on this group ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Stevens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:17 AM Subject: [CherokeeGene] LONG, Lemuel Dugan > Osiyo, L D LONG was the son of Maples LONG & Grandson of George LONG. > I'd like to meet other cousins in hopes we can learn more from each other. > David > > -- > "In GOD we trust" > "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all" > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Osiyo, L D LONG was the son of Maples LONG & Grandson of George LONG. I'd like to meet other cousins in hopes we can learn more from each other. David -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all"

I have Wards Just not sure whoose .lol On Dec 19, 2012 7:50 AM, "Alli :)" <[email protected]> wrote: > I think we have someone that has Long's in their tree, but not sure if > Debbie is on this group > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Stevens" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:17 AM > Subject: [CherokeeGene] LONG, Lemuel Dugan > > > > Osiyo, L D LONG was the son of Maples LONG & Grandson of George LONG. > > I'd like to meet other cousins in hopes we can learn more from each > other. > > David > > > > -- > > "In GOD we trust" > > "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all" > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > List archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > Dual admin. > > Dan and Joyce > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for the Shalom! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 2:00 AM Subject: CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 7, Issue 251 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: shalom (Dj M) > 2. Re: shalom (Alli :)) > 3. Re: shalom (Dj M) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:33:14 -0800 > From: Dj M <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] shalom > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I offer full shalom to all members and even shalom salam . > Gods shalom > Jesus`s shalom. > Shalom in peace. > In these times of this system. > We need shalom. > Aho?! > Dan > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:55:30 -0700 > From: "Alli :\)" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] shalom > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > ? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dj M" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] shalom > > >>I offer full shalom to all members and even shalom salam . >> Gods shalom >> Jesus`s shalom. >> Shalom in peace. >> In these times of this system. >> We need shalom. >> Aho?! >> Dan > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:18:44 -0800 > From: "Dj M" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] shalom > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Its something in Peace. > All of us genealogy folks know many people can use it > http://www.shalom-peace.com/ > Many people we miss and many lands where if we had peace we would not be > loosing so many people now. > We can take it to the culture list tho. > Dan > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CHEROKEEGENE list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the CHEROKEEGENE mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CHEROKEEGENE Digest, Vol 7, Issue 251 > ********************************************

Its something in Peace. All of us genealogy folks know many people can use it http://www.shalom-peace.com/ Many people we miss and many lands where if we had peace we would not be loosing so many people now. We can take it to the culture list tho. Dan

? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dj M" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] shalom >I offer full shalom to all members and even shalom salam . > Gods shalom > Jesus`s shalom. > Shalom in peace. > In these times of this system. > We need shalom. > Aho?! > Dan

I offer full shalom to all members and even shalom salam . Gods shalom Jesus`s shalom. Shalom in peace. In these times of this system. We need shalom. Aho?! Dan

So extremely topical and interesting Joyce. Thanks for the link. Terri