Harvey B was enlisted in the Army Oct 7, 1942 Ft Oglethorpe, GA. He was Medically Discharged on 04/02/1943 from Company A 19th training Battalion B1 RTC recorded in McMinn County TN in the Ger-American War Book No. 1 Page 178. I was only provided with his discharge papers when requested from TSLA -------Original Message------- From: David Stevens Date: 12/20/2012 4:16:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] where I have been told that my military records were destroyed in the big fire. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Susan Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > Sheila, what branch of service was your father in and when? You may > be lucky enough that his service records weren't destroyed when the > fire at the records repositry destroyed most of the Army's personnel > records in the late 1970s. The latter part of the alphabet had > surviving records. > > Susan > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all" =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For those of you who remember Richard Thornton, he will be on America Unearthed tonight. Time and listings are below. This investigation is showing the link between the South Eastern tribes and the Mayan. I have listed below several of his writings on this subject. I can't remember but I believe Gary Daniels is also on the program. I am sure someone will tell me if I am wrong America Unearthed, tonight December 21st at 7 pm Pacific time H2 Dish channel 121 Direct Channel 271 or 1271 Repeated on December 23rd at 5 pm Pacific Time on [email protected], same channels For those without satellite can view this on www.hulu.com with a 1 week free trial. I don't have them times for the program there. Additional Information on Track Rock Gap Georgia, that is Union County http://www.peopleofonefire.com/track_rock_archaeological_zone.htm http://www.peopleofonefire.com/history_channels_research_georgia_mexico.htm http://www.peopleofonefire.com/sneak_preview.htm http://www.peopleofonefire.com/native_american_scholars_on_warpath.htm http://www.peopleofonefire.com/forest_service_employees_vandalize_heritage_site.htm Thanks Judy On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Dj M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ebony Angel > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Native American Genealogy http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/ AccessGenealogy http://www.accessgenealogy.com/

I mentioned couple months ago there was a sale going on. http://www.webpronews.com/ancestry-com-sold-to-private-equity-firm-for-1-6-billion-2012-10 I started my website a long time before Ancestry was even a topic. One of the people who started it was interviewed on this group few years ago. I used to make comments on the group ( you never know who is here ) well, Ancestry was molded after rootsweb, wish I had known how to make my website of that value in 10 years. wow. No, I don’t think it will affect the ancestry, but it might affect information harvesting. >??< -----Original Message----- From: Earleene Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Are Any of the Paid Sites Having = OPENDOORtoSITE'S for the holidays like Ancestry.com did before? to whom?how will it affect the records they have? <>><><><><><><><><><><<>

moderated. -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Gaston Reece Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] (no subject) Don't respond to the emails from 'Ebony Angel" SPAM Joyce Gaston Reece

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I requested my records be brought out of storage 3 times in 3 separate requests so I could get medical care, but was finally told about the fire and that mine must have been destroyed in the blaze. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Susan Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > OK, I'm an airhead tonight. I read your message as you had not been > told. Duh. There wasn't a general announcement though. David, how > did you find out? I'm curious because they had no way of knowing > which records at the time and it might help find other records. > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Susan Reynolds <[email protected]> > wrote: > > They didn't announce it to veterans. You can read all about it here: > > http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/fire-1973.html > > Not all records were destroyed but a huge percentage burned. > > > > Susan > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all"

OK, I'm an airhead tonight. I read your message as you had not been told. Duh. There wasn't a general announcement though. David, how did you find out? I'm curious because they had no way of knowing which records at the time and it might help find other records. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Susan Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > They didn't announce it to veterans. You can read all about it here: > http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/fire-1973.html > Not all records were destroyed but a huge percentage burned. > > Susan

They didn't announce it to veterans. You can read all about it here: http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/fire-1973.html Not all records were destroyed but a huge percentage burned. Susan

I have been told that my military records were destroyed in the big fire. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Susan Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > Sheila, what branch of service was your father in and when? You may > be lucky enough that his service records weren't destroyed when the > fire at the records repositry destroyed most of the Army's personnel > records in the late 1970s. The latter part of the alphabet had > surviving records. > > Susan > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all"

Tennessee State Library & Archives. www.tennessee.org Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: David Stevens Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] where What is TSLA, I'm trying to find Lottie Mahala LONG SMILEY ? On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Joyce Gaston Reece <[email protected]>wrote: > Did Harvey B draw Social Security? If so you should be able to find his > info in the SS Death Index. Also they just put online at TSLA the Delayed > Birth Certificates. These were issued for people who were applying for > Social Security but weren't issued a birth certificate when born. > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all" =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sheila, what branch of service was your father in and when? You may be lucky enough that his service records weren't destroyed when the fire at the records repositry destroyed most of the Army's personnel records in the late 1970s. The latter part of the alphabet had surviving records. Susan

Yes my Dad drew SS. The SS Admin verified his birth date by using TN 1930 census (which is off by one year as well as his SS Death Redord), his military records reflect the correct year. I wrote TN Vital Statistics and they checked for Delayed Birth Records. I also sent request to Polk County TN for any birth information (+5 or -5 years) they may have registered but with no luck. Dad (Harvey B) was not listed on 1909 Guion Miller Roll with my aunts and uncles as he was not born yet. My information on Thomas did come from Eastern Cherokee Application. I'm interested in what you come up with for William and Mary Nicholson. According to my father before he died he told me his father was: Henry C m. Pearl Dean Gfather: James m. Mary Rogers & SuGi McDaniels GGfather was Thomas m. Catherine McDaniels & Mary Nicholson (not sure if Thomas J or just Thomas). I'm so confused?????? Thanks Again for your help Sheila Raper Happel -------Original Message------- From: Joyce Gaston Reece Date: 12/19/12 19:32:21 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] where Did Harvey B draw Social Security? If so you should be able to find his info in the SS Death Index. Also they just put online at TSLA the Delayed Birth Certificates. These were issued for people who were applying for Social Security but weren't issued a birth certificate when born. Joyce Gaston Reece =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes Joyce I would love any new info on this family. In fact I enjoy the old info...any info on the McDaniels and their kin. Merry Christmas Terri

Why not just post the info. you have instead of steering people in yet another direction? Besides that......what do you think the CNO is.....a form of government.....where do you think they get the idea to make others prove from the government..... Its just a government within a government asking for hand-outs from the bigger government....... You suggested we "see Moytoy".......its been asked repeatedly where the information is located. How about posting a link? Alli :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] John McDaniel > With the Cherokee. Either Cherokee Nation or Cherokee Registry. > If you want some answers , you need to go to the Cherokee , not government > documentation. > BARB

What is TSLA, I'm trying to find Lottie Mahala LONG SMILEY ? On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Joyce Gaston Reece <[email protected]>wrote: > Did Harvey B draw Social Security? If so you should be able to find his > info in the SS Death Index. Also they just put online at TSLA the Delayed > Birth Certificates. These were issued for people who were applying for > Social Security but weren't issued a birth certificate when born. > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all"

I think I'd just pop in and see. Most of them don't advertise the free times any more - or if they do it's very low key. BTW 24 million new records just went up at Family Search. It gets better all the time and there are often images to view free of charge. Well worth the time to learn to navigate the new site. Susan

Did Harvey B draw Social Security? If so you should be able to find his info in the SS Death Index. Also they just put online at TSLA the Delayed Birth Certificates. These were issued for people who were applying for Social Security but weren't issued a birth certificate when born. Joyce Gaston Reece

Sheila I believe some of the information you have is incorrect. I believe it was William Raper who was m. to Mary Nicholson...not Thomas BUT they did have a son named Thomas...he m. Elizabeth Pitts. The info you have came from an Eastern Cherokee Application. There's only two Thomas' who show on the CCNC and regional census records. The first is Thomas who m. Caty McDaniel the second is Thomas who m. Elizabeth Pitts. There were three Raper brothers in CCNC and area: 1. Thomas who stayed with Caty from at least 1817 until he died in Fannin County, GA. Caty is enumerated there for another census or two afterwards. 2. I'm working toward proving that William was with Mary Nicholson before he m. Jemima Adams. He's the second brother. He lived next door to Elijah Raper in Fannin Co. Elijah was the son of Thomas and Elizabeth Pitts Raper who died during the Civil War. 3. Jesse Raper is the third brother...married 'that other' McDaniel sister. I may be wrong but I believe Henry Clay was Thomas' desc. Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Sheila Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 6:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] where I would like to have any information you can give me on: 2nd Great Grandfather: Thomas (James?) Raper dob: 03/10/1790 In England's Point, Cherokee, NC Death: 12/07/1887 Married Mary Nicholson dob:Abt 1790 NC Death: Abt 1813 NC ?? Great Grandfather: James Raper dob: 02/17/1813 Notla NC Death: 01/23/1883 Shady Grove, Cherokee NC 1852 Chapman Roll Family #32 Roll#1431 Married: Su Gi McDaniel at 1826 Married: Mary Rogers About 1866 (Great Grandmother)?? Grandfather: Henry Clay Raper dob: 11/20/1868 Notla Cherokee NC Death: 05/03/1915 Tellico Plains, TN 1852 Chapman Roll Family #32 Roll 1431 1909 Guion Miller Roll Application #18592. Married: Pearl Dean on 02/09/1902 Father: Harvey Blaine Raper dob: 07/23/1910 Ducktown Polk County TN (can not find record of birth ever recorded) Death: 01/01/2005 Athen McMinn TN Thanking you in advance for any help?? -------Original Message------- From: Joyce Gaston Reece Date: 12/19/12 18:04:51 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] where Weren't me, Peggy....that was Dan.....I'd NEVER call you OLD. We all know you're well under 30. lol Are you interested in any of the research we're doing on the Rapers? Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Lambert Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] where Joyce, what you mean calling me one of the old guys? P.L. =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes we talked about that some time ago. I talked to them on the phone and they said nothing noticeable is going to change. Suggest tho, people using it save back up to your pc, family heritage is also in Europe, so if you worry about ancestry you can use that. I use them both . The question was - any free services at this time. http://www.ancestry.com/cs/Satellite?childpagename=USLearningCenter%2FLearning_C%2FPageDefault&cid=1265124574476&pagename=LearningWrapper Not any thing free I noticed. I have a world subscription. That’s my new thing. was just USA. I also have the rolls in format small enough for e-mail transmission. Dan -----Original Message----- From: BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 6:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Are Any of the Paid Sites Having = OPEN DOORtoSITE'S for the holidays like Ancestry.com did before? Ancestry.com has sold out recently. BARB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theodore R VonBartheld" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 1:24 PM Subject: [CherokeeGene] Are Any of the Paid Sites Having = OPEN DOOR toSITE'S for the holidays like Ancestry.com did before? > Hello Everyone > > > > I was Just if any of the paid sites were having OPEN DOOR to their SITE"S > for the holidays like Ancestry.com did in the past, I wonder if they will > this year? > > > > Thank you until we talk again, peace be with you and yours. > > Theodore R. VonBartheld > > [email protected] > > > > PS: happy Holidays to everyone and best wishes to all. > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to have any information you can give me on: 2nd Great Grandfather: Thomas (James?) Raper dob: 03/10/1790 In England's Point, Cherokee, NC Death: 12/07/1887 Married Mary Nicholson dob:Abt 1790 NC Death: Abt 1813 NC ?? Great Grandfather: James Raper dob: 02/17/1813 Notla NC Death: 01/23/1883 Shady Grove, Cherokee NC 1852 Chapman Roll Family #32 Roll#1431 Married: Su Gi McDaniel at 1826 Married: Mary Rogers About 1866 (Great Grandmother)?? Grandfather: Henry Clay Raper dob: 11/20/1868 Notla Cherokee NC Death: 05/03/1915 Tellico Plains, TN 1852 Chapman Roll Family #32 Roll 1431 1909 Guion Miller Roll Application #18592. Married: Pearl Dean on 02/09/1902 Father: Harvey Blaine Raper dob: 07/23/1910 Ducktown Polk County TN (can not find record of birth ever recorded) Death: 01/01/2005 Athen McMinn TN Thanking you in advance for any help?? -------Original Message------- From: Joyce Gaston Reece Date: 12/19/12 18:04:51 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] where Weren't me, Peggy....that was Dan.....I'd NEVER call you OLD. We all know you're well under 30. lol Are you interested in any of the research we're doing on the Rapers? Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Lambert Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] where Joyce, what you mean calling me one of the old guys? P.L. =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message