Phew!!! I thought maybe i made it sound like i was putting them all together ;) Ok.........back to our regularly scheduled program Are the one things where we post all of our Cherokee related names out.....roll call i think it was.....not allowed? :) If not, maybe we can get everyone to post for the new year :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dj M" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] OT vir-programs > Mention was because. > People do - people did, people are. > Because they don’t know why not to. > It’s a preventive mention only. > So on to genealogy only. > We are disturbing the concentration of folks . > Dan > [email protected] > also for conversation.

WHAT?! Since when did the Cherokee Indians own or use ships? What on earth are you smoking now? ----- Original Message ----- From: "BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "earthfeather99" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Leavens in Kentucky, born 1828 > > IN 1607 when the English arrived the Cherokee had three ships in the > Harbor. We are a Bloodline. > > BARB

LOL They can not have run for their lives AND be on rolls too...... so.....how can you be enrolled if they ran? ----- Original Message ----- From: "BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] blood quantums > The majority of the Cherokee bloodline ran for their lives. > > BARB

Do you mean just look ups on the Dawes etc lists ? I do have a question about questions concerning a James Daugherty in the Carolina area that was a trader and married a Cherokee and I wonder if anyone knows about him & his descendants who came west, stayed in the Carolinas or wandered through Tennessee ? On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Dj M <[email protected]> wrote: > Good questions on the people are fine if its a look up. > If its conversation about the culture and what people did. We have a group > for that and DNA as well. > We also have a sister list for cherokee history. Music. Prayer. Chat. Etc. > Trying to keep a very specialized list on track is the idea. > Notice the tag line in every message explaines the use of the list. > If you have need of lookups or want to post finds and explain about them. > Thats fine. > Dan > On Dec 26, 2012 8:29 PM, "David Stevens" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Sorry, I thought "where we came from" is genealogy. I did have other > > questions in mind but I believe I'm getting a better defined view of this > > site. Thanks. > > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Dj M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Any thing that is not query for look ups of names and posting those > > finds, > > > should not be on this list. > > > This should only be a place to seek help to find information for > > genealogy. > > > [email protected] is the list for con versation. > > > Myth and culture. > > > >From now own let join the other list for these things and save this > > group > > > for the genealogy only. > > > This way those people who do not want the gossip and myth can avoid it > by > > > not joining the other list. > > > People who do not comply will be moderated in the future. > > > Thanks > > > And on with genealogy only. > > > Dan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Joyce Gaston Reece > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:28 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [CherokeeGene] Israel's Lost > > > > > > David, > > > > > > You're not confused. It is purely conjecture, speculation and any > other > > > like word that the Cherokee tribe is one of the lost tribes of Israel. > > > It's > > > not proven and likely won't be in our lifetime. Maybe someday but we > > just > > > don't yet know. It's purely a matter of choice as to what one 'wishes' > > to > > > believe set apart from actual facts. Those of us who believe that > > > genealogy > > > is not mythology and require documentation to the best that can be had > > will > > > tell you the same thing. > > > > > > If we look into the deep history of what caused the Cherokee to be > called > > > 'Cherokee' one can see that the tribe is a compilation of hundreds of > > other > > > tribes that the British stuck the name onto. > > > > > > Dan says we need to move this type conversation over to the > > > [email protected] list > > > > > > > > > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to > do > > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > > List archive > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > > Dual admin. > > > Dan and Joyce > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to > do > > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > > List archive > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > > Dual admin. > > > Dan and Joyce > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > "In GOD we trust" > > "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all" > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > List archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > Dual admin. > > Dan and Joyce > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all"

Many of them are available via Heritage Quest and/or Google Books, Wanda. Although, after speak to some people I have learned that the info in her manuscripts are sometimes questionable....but I imagine everything is 'questionable' until documented. I'd appreciate anything you could learn about them. Congratulations on your DAR. I didn't realize that she had people in the American Revolution. Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Wanda Pezzaglia Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CherokeeGene] Annie Walker Burns-Joyce Gaston Reece Joyce: sometime ago you were "talking" about Annie Walker Burns. I have just been accepted into the DAR via Nancy Ward. I find that Annie Walker Burns has 150 books/articles in the DAR library. They are located in the DAR library. Not sure how to obtain any of the books, but will ask questions at the next meeting. wanda =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, I thought "where we came from" is genealogy. I did have other questions in mind but I believe I'm getting a better defined view of this site. Thanks. On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Dj M <[email protected]> wrote: > Any thing that is not query for look ups of names and posting those finds, > should not be on this list. > This should only be a place to seek help to find information for genealogy. > [email protected] is the list for con versation. > Myth and culture. > >From now own let join the other list for these things and save this group > for the genealogy only. > This way those people who do not want the gossip and myth can avoid it by > not joining the other list. > People who do not comply will be moderated in the future. > Thanks > And on with genealogy only. > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joyce Gaston Reece > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CherokeeGene] Israel's Lost > > David, > > You're not confused. It is purely conjecture, speculation and any other > like word that the Cherokee tribe is one of the lost tribes of Israel. > It's > not proven and likely won't be in our lifetime. Maybe someday but we just > don't yet know. It's purely a matter of choice as to what one 'wishes' to > believe set apart from actual facts. Those of us who believe that > genealogy > is not mythology and require documentation to the best that can be had will > tell you the same thing. > > If we look into the deep history of what caused the Cherokee to be called > 'Cherokee' one can see that the tribe is a compilation of hundreds of other > tribes that the British stuck the name onto. > > Dan says we need to move this type conversation over to the > [email protected] list > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "In GOD we trust" "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all"

All lookups. Any place. Dan On Dec 26, 2012 9:18 PM, "David Stevens" <[email protected]> wrote: > Do you mean just look ups on the Dawes etc lists ? > > I do have a question about questions concerning a James Daugherty in the > Carolina area that was a trader and married a Cherokee and I wonder if > anyone knows about him & his descendants who came west, stayed in the > Carolinas or wandered through Tennessee ? > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Dj M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Good questions on the people are fine if its a look up. > > If its conversation about the culture and what people did. We have a > group > > for that and DNA as well. > > We also have a sister list for cherokee history. Music. Prayer. Chat. > Etc. > > Trying to keep a very specialized list on track is the idea. > > Notice the tag line in every message explaines the use of the list. > > If you have need of lookups or want to post finds and explain about them. > > Thats fine. > > Dan > > On Dec 26, 2012 8:29 PM, "David Stevens" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Sorry, I thought "where we came from" is genealogy. I did have other > > > questions in mind but I believe I'm getting a better defined view of > this > > > site. Thanks. > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Dj M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Any thing that is not query for look ups of names and posting those > > > finds, > > > > should not be on this list. > > > > This should only be a place to seek help to find information for > > > genealogy. > > > > [email protected] is the list for con versation. > > > > Myth and culture. > > > > >From now own let join the other list for these things and save this > > > group > > > > for the genealogy only. > > > > This way those people who do not want the gossip and myth can avoid > it > > by > > > > not joining the other list. > > > > People who do not comply will be moderated in the future. > > > > Thanks > > > > And on with genealogy only. > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Joyce Gaston Reece > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:28 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [CherokeeGene] Israel's Lost > > > > > > > > David, > > > > > > > > You're not confused. It is purely conjecture, speculation and any > > other > > > > like word that the Cherokee tribe is one of the lost tribes of > Israel. > > > > It's > > > > not proven and likely won't be in our lifetime. Maybe someday but we > > > just > > > > don't yet know. It's purely a matter of choice as to what one > 'wishes' > > > to > > > > believe set apart from actual facts. Those of us who believe that > > > > genealogy > > > > is not mythology and require documentation to the best that can be > had > > > will > > > > tell you the same thing. > > > > > > > > If we look into the deep history of what caused the Cherokee to be > > called > > > > 'Cherokee' one can see that the tribe is a compilation of hundreds of > > > other > > > > tribes that the British stuck the name onto. > > > > > > > > Dan says we need to move this type conversation over to the > > > > [email protected] list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > > > > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to > > do > > > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > > > List archive > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > > > Dual admin. > > > > Dan and Joyce > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed > to > > do > > > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > > > List archive > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > > > Dual admin. > > > > Dan and Joyce > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "In GOD we trust" > > > "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all" > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to > do > > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > > List archive > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > > Dual admin. > > > Dan and Joyce > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > List archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > Dual admin. > > Dan and Joyce > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > "In GOD we trust" > "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all" > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sharon Lizzie (Elizabeth Phipps) Davis???? Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Pappin Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Davis I have done quite a bit of research on my Davis line...goes back to early 1800's and the line is documented cherokee.. Barney and Wesley Davis,[two brothers] ,married two cherokee sisters Nellie [1818-1858]and Nancy Reed [1823-1864]. several of their kids were on the Dawes rolls. some of the others who stayed in Tenn, were on the Miller rolls. Sharon =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In order for someone to be 1/16th blood quantum they would need one of the following: A full blood Cherokee within no more than a gg grandparent or within 4 generations. It drops to full -- 1/2 -- 1/4th-- 1/16th Two 1/2 blood grandparents within 4 generations. This would hold the same blood quantum as above. OR Four one-quarter blood grandparents within 4 generations. I'm sure there are other combinations but the point being that the blood quantum has to occur within recent times. The Baker Roll was taken in 1924 and it has NO Levien's, Gordon's, House's, there are 15 Davis'. Anita, Charley, Cornelius, David, Elizabeth, George Israel, Isaac, Joe, Katie, Lena, Lydia, Margaret, Martha & Mary Joyce Gaston Reece

Good questions on the people are fine if its a look up. If its conversation about the culture and what people did. We have a group for that and DNA as well. We also have a sister list for cherokee history. Music. Prayer. Chat. Etc. Trying to keep a very specialized list on track is the idea. Notice the tag line in every message explaines the use of the list. If you have need of lookups or want to post finds and explain about them. Thats fine. Dan On Dec 26, 2012 8:29 PM, "David Stevens" <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry, I thought "where we came from" is genealogy. I did have other > questions in mind but I believe I'm getting a better defined view of this > site. Thanks. > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Dj M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Any thing that is not query for look ups of names and posting those > finds, > > should not be on this list. > > This should only be a place to seek help to find information for > genealogy. > > [email protected] is the list for con versation. > > Myth and culture. > > >From now own let join the other list for these things and save this > group > > for the genealogy only. > > This way those people who do not want the gossip and myth can avoid it by > > not joining the other list. > > People who do not comply will be moderated in the future. > > Thanks > > And on with genealogy only. > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joyce Gaston Reece > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:28 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [CherokeeGene] Israel's Lost > > > > David, > > > > You're not confused. It is purely conjecture, speculation and any other > > like word that the Cherokee tribe is one of the lost tribes of Israel. > > It's > > not proven and likely won't be in our lifetime. Maybe someday but we > just > > don't yet know. It's purely a matter of choice as to what one 'wishes' > to > > believe set apart from actual facts. Those of us who believe that > > genealogy > > is not mythology and require documentation to the best that can be had > will > > tell you the same thing. > > > > If we look into the deep history of what caused the Cherokee to be called > > 'Cherokee' one can see that the tribe is a compilation of hundreds of > other > > tribes that the British stuck the name onto. > > > > Dan says we need to move this type conversation over to the > > [email protected] list > > > > > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > List archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > Dual admin. > > Dan and Joyce > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > List archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > Dual admin. > > Dan and Joyce > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > "In GOD we trust" > "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all" > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

David, You're not confused. It is purely conjecture, speculation and any other like word that the Cherokee tribe is one of the lost tribes of Israel. It's not proven and likely won't be in our lifetime. Maybe someday but we just don't yet know. It's purely a matter of choice as to what one 'wishes' to believe set apart from actual facts. Those of us who believe that genealogy is not mythology and require documentation to the best that can be had will tell you the same thing. If we look into the deep history of what caused the Cherokee to be called 'Cherokee' one can see that the tribe is a compilation of hundreds of other tribes that the British stuck the name onto. Dan says we need to move this type conversation over to the [email protected] list Joyce Gaston Reece

Ok. That’s enough. Lets take the stories to the Culture list and you can argue there all you wish. We need to stick to fact and nothing but the facts here. This is a genealogy list as so many time mentioned. Not a culture and myth list, that’s [email protected] it can use your conversations. There are people there in the know that will deal with the stories as well. I am going to moderate the whole group until folks get the idea we are for genealogy here. Beginning tomorrow, lest we decide to follow list rules as we each read this message. Anyone wanting to carry on with Barb can do that in private or the other group. Thanks - list admin Dan ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From: BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Leavens in Kentucky, born 1828 We also have ownership of the Arc of the Covenent with Moses's gold tablets, of the original Ten commandments. It is said we are from Atlantis and the Plieatides,( Spelled wrong). ***notice*** <snipping IS required to those who can thanks >>>

The majority of the Cherokee bloodline ran for their lives. BARB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:44 PM Subject: [CherokeeGene] blood quantums > In order for someone to be 1/16th blood quantum they would need one of the > following: > > A full blood Cherokee within no more than a gg grandparent or within 4 > generations. It drops to full -- 1/2 -- 1/4th-- 1/16th > > Two 1/2 blood grandparents within 4 generations. This would hold the same > blood quantum as above. > > OR Four one-quarter blood grandparents within 4 generations. > > I'm sure there are other combinations but the point being that the blood > quantum has to occur within recent times. > > The Baker Roll was taken in 1924 and it has NO Levien's, Gordon's, > House's, > there are 15 Davis'. Anita, Charley, Cornelius, David, Elizabeth, George > Israel, Isaac, Joe, Katie, Lena, Lydia, Margaret, Martha & Mary > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just making sure.....as my bad as my memory seems to be I figured i might have missed something ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dj M" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Leavens in Kentucky, born 1828 > Because we are not yahoo lol > They have nothing to do with us here.

Joyce: sometime ago you were "talking" about Annie Walker Burns.  I have just been accepted into the DAR via Nancy Ward. I find that Annie Walker Burns has 150 books/articles in the DAR library.  They are located in the DAR library.  Not sure how to obtain any of the books, but will ask questions at the next meeting.   wanda

My Elder offered me contact with the CRANE family. He works for the Cherokee Nation on the Rolls The various tribes of the Israelites and Judea, the divided Kingdom, are very large. There are many untold historys, untold in American History books. My GORDON family name goes back to Ancient Israel. And I am welcome in Israel, by a calling.... to return. I have been trusted and honored with many secrets. So I try to be careful. The House of David's Tribe was taken to Egypt under bondage as slaves. See Bible... King David had a Phoenician shipping line that traversed the world. The Phoenicians brought the original(Cherokee)( Algonquin) here to this continent , 13,000 years ago. We have the original timbers of the Temple buried in Minnasota. We also have ownership of the Arc of the Covenent with Moses's gold tablets, of the original Ten commandments. It is said we are from Atlantis and the Plieatides,( Spelled wrong). IN 1607 when the English arrived the Cherokee had three ships in the Harbor. We are a Bloodline. BARB ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Stevens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Leavens in Kentucky, born 1828 > I thought the Levites were one of the 2 tribes that were not "lost" ??? > Maybe I'm confused > > I did see the name CRANE in this thread and I have Cranes in my family > tree, also. > > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 5:43 PM, BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Actually it is 1/8th. > > > > First of all we are GORDON, Benge, Goodwin, HOUSE and Lee. and etc.We > > come > > from a long continual connection through several lines from the 1600's, > > 1700's, 1800's, 1900's including The DAVIS line from Nikki, Poco's > > sister > > ( Matoaca) > > > > It is going to be a book, The Lost Cherokee.....Survivors ran and ran, > > or > > hid in caves. > > Millions were murdered. I don't take that lightly > > My grandfather, ROBERT LEE GORDON disappeared.about 1934-5. His first > > born > > was my father who was killed by American Bombs after the war was over. > > April > > 1945/ My brother and I never got the insurance he had designated for > > us. > > > > The Cherokee are a blood line. Ask the Hopi. Or ask a Cherokee. > > Cousin marrying cousin. > > > > My first marriage was to a Davis, his father and mother ( CRANE & > > PICKETT) > > were from Indian Territory, Texas via Arkansas....and other places. > > My second marriage was the love of my life. The government killed him. > > He > > was a third generation 100 % Finn, who also are the "Lost tribe of > > Israel" > > > > > > > > BARB > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 12:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Leavens in Kentucky, born 1828 > > > > > > > Barb wrote: Last weekend, my daughter flew to North Carolina and > > > registered with the > > > Cherokee/ YAH!!! > > > > > > Qualifications to enter the eastern band. > > > Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians > > > The Eastern Band bases there enrollment on the Baker Roll of 1924. In > > > order > > > to enroll, you must be directly descended from a Baker enrollee and > > > have > > > 1/16 blood quantum. The Eastern Band has also closed enrollment to > > > adults -- > > > only newborn children and teenagers 18 years of age are invited to > > > apply > > > for > > > enrollment. You can learn more about membership in the Eastern Band at > > > their > > > website: Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians Enrollment Info, or you can > > > contact them via mail at: > > > > > > Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians > > > P.O. Box 2069 > > > Cherokee, North Carolina 28719 > > > (828) 497-8110 ask for the Tribal Enrollment Office, Fax (828) > > > 497-8199 > > > > > > The BAKER roll is the only way your daughter could have entered the > > > eastern > > > band. And that happens to be a federal government records you often > > > dis > > > me > > > about. > > > > > > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to > > > do > > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > > List archive > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > > Dual admin. > > > Dan and Joyce > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to > > do > > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > > List archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > > Dual admin. > > Dan and Joyce > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > "In GOD we trust" > "one nation Under GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for all" > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'd be interested in seeing that comment re-posted....in the 15 yrs I"ve been here (yikes, can't believe its been that long) I've never seen you or anyone claim that the Cherokee were Chinese.....if it wasn't such a serious false claim......I would be laughing at such a big screw up ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dj M" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Leavens in Kentucky, born 1828 >I never once in my life ever referred to cherokee as chinese. If your a > researcher. You must produce proof of this slander ?

Was Davis the grandpa? Or great...... I saw something, but now can't remember.....ugh...I guess i'll go look in the delete file ----- Original Message ----- From: "BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Barb who is your ggrandfather? >I have always been open and above board with this group.I answered that >question. > > BARB >

I didn't say use them together.......... I said I have used them (separately) & haven't had issues. I just use the 3 you mentioned (Spy Bot Search & destroy & ESS) ...ok technically if i could read.....its only 2......but again.......that's all i use. but to scan I have used Trend Micro before learning about ESS :) But the other programs have let trojans through but claim your computer is clean.....I know.....I had to clean my mom's computer a few years ago & used Trend Micro, when McAfee & Norton & a computer tech, claimed she was clean but she wasn't. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dj M" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] OT vir-programs > Do not use Ms Ess with AVg. > No no no! > > spy bot search and destroy and ESS all you need. Can mcaffee and norton > and > avg. Ms ess is made by windows for windows and free. > Neger run 2 anti virus or even have them.installed on one machine. It > makes > a mess on how they work and messes up registry and shared files > and.produces false hits beause one will pick up the other. Some times they > can cancell each other out and you get the virus.

Your wrong Barb according to this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_Freedman#Cherokee_Freedmen It states "The Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians requires a minimum one-sixteenth Cherokee blood quantum (genealogical descent, equivalent to one great-great-grandparent) and an ancestor on the Baker Roll.:" This has been my understanding as well when i first looked to them for information on their requirements. this other link http://nc-cherokee.com/ Is the other one i came up with, but they didn't have their registration requirements on there anywhere I could find. You don't state (in this message below) whether or not your grandmother is Cherokee or European. You also don't state whether or not your mother was Cherokee or European (white) which would reduce your "blood quantum" The Cherokee blood is recognized through the Mother's direct line (Mom, grandma, great grandma,etc) Course from what I've read on a couple links (including those I shared) it stated that the Eastern Band of Cherokee changed things to where the paternal line was to be followed....following the white government ways :) And unless your x-husband Davis was of Cherokee descendent it doesn't matter if he lived in Texas or Ark. (I have family that lived in Ark & MO. in areas the Cherokee lived) How did the government kill your second husband? And him being Finn......isn't Cherokee......so again.....your children's blood quantum would be reduced unless either man (which ever may be the father of them) was Cherokee And if you have proof of Cherokee Connection, back to the 1700's then how come your daughter is just now registering ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "earthfeather99" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Leavens in Kentucky, born 1828 > Actually it is 1/8th. > > First of all we are GORDON, Benge, Goodwin, HOUSE and Lee. and etc.We come > from a long continual connection through several lines from the 1600's, > 1700's, 1800's, 1900's including The DAVIS line from Nikki, Poco's sister > ( Matoaca) > > It is going to be a book, The Lost Cherokee.....Survivors ran and ran, or > hid in caves. > Millions were murdered. I don't take that lightly > My grandfather, ROBERT LEE GORDON disappeared.about 1934-5. His first born > was my father who was killed by American Bombs after the war was over. > April 1945/ My brother and I never got the insurance he had designated > for us. > > The Cherokee are a blood line. Ask the Hopi. Or ask a Cherokee. > Cousin marrying cousin. > > My first marriage was to a Davis, his father and mother ( CRANE & PICKETT) > were from Indian Territory, Texas via Arkansas....and other places. > My second marriage was the love of my life. The government killed him. He > was a third generation 100 % Finn, who also are the "Lost tribe of Israel" > > > > BARB