By the time we begin seeing any records it is quite often we see angelicized names. Often because the whites couldn't pronounce the name or speak the language so they 'stuck' one one them. But by the time of 1750 to the Removal the intermingling of the two races became quite common. In the applications and claims we, quite often, see quite a few mixed bloods. It is sometimes said that by the time of the Removal that the majority of the 'full bloods' had already removed west. Return Jonathan Meigs wrote in 1800 that apx 50% of those remaining east were Mixed Bloods....although some disagreed with that figure. Regardless the progression of Treaties that shrank the holdings of the Cherokee Nation saw a whole new crop of mixed bloods along the treaty lines. Joyce Gaston Reece "Full Blood" One of the most used terms in genealogy research. Next to the Cherokee Princess. Might I suggest a question to those who are well experienced in this. Once a person is dubbed an English or non NA names, could we not figure they are not full blood by this time?

I so enjoyed reading your story on helping others. Without being able to confirm anything for myself, I have helped others with their searches with only one being able to confirm t their native roots. His grandmother was Creek. It was a pleasure to have helped him. Recently, I also have helped trace two of my cousins' biological families. Their Mother passed and took their paternal biological info to her grave. I know this is off of subject, so thank you Dan for opening up a 4-day chat. If anyone could help me with my names, I'd be so grateful. In a message dated 12/28/2012 3:12:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Because of Cherokee Gene I have learned a very great deal not only about Cherokee genealogy but a part of American history I never, ever learned about. I lived in Oklahoma until 7 years ago and was able to go to Tahlequah several times a year, met David Hampton and the genealogists at the Cherokee Heritage Center, chatted with Jack Baker and Bob Blankenship and his very charismatic son who owns One Feather Books in Tahlequah. They were all of help to me as I researched beginning in 1999 for a friend who had been given one tiny piece of bad information that totally threw off her research for years. The more I researched her family, the more I fell in love with the Cherokee people. We are said to have Cherokee blood, but I know from looking at the records the chances are slim to none I will ever prove that - right places, right times, but there are no government records for the time and no family Bibles or other family records. But it's not necessary. I can help others prove theirs. I have been able to help that original friend, who was another Joyce, worked with Alli and Debbie and Joyce (on a number of projects), solved a 150 year-old mystery and the list goes on forever. I think the most satisfying was helping my cousin's son-in-law discover his Cherokee roots and seeing David fall in love with his Cherokee heritage. I still haven't gotten him the Rider applications in his line, just the Thompsons, but watching him develop research skills and navigate Cherokee records has been a joy. He was reared in foster homes, so he didn't grow up with the cousins and aunts and uncles who knew part of the story (not all of it though, and David has been able to teach THEM!),only learning of his heritage in the past year. And in the process, I learned why my great grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Wood packed up 8 of his children 3 weeks after his first wife, Mary Jane "Janie" Love died, and went to Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory, when on the surface there appeared to be absolutely no reason for him to leave his siblings and older children behind in Nevada County, Arkansas. That piece of information came from researching the Dawes application for a mixed blood freedman named Moses Crittenden and his sister's application which placed them in Choctaw Nation during the Civil War where, lo and behold, was a Chickasaw Love family in which the wife was the product of a Chickasaw/Cherokee lineage from around Muscle Shoals, AL, the household of Robert Love. I had long thought Janie's grandfather was the son of Thomas Love, the Tory who would not fight on either side in the Revolution and sought sanctuary in the old Chickasaw Nation, where he married a Chickasaw girl and had a large family with her. Their son, Thomas Jr is last seen in Chickasaw records at age 18 , then a Thomas Love/Lauve appears from nowhere in Arkansas, not far from Choctaw Nation. A portrait of Thomas and Janie Wood shows him obviously white and her obviously copper skinned. It was often found among the Cherokee (and the Chickasaw) that the husband took his offspring to his mother-in-law or his dead wife's oldest brother (or other male relative) to be raised. I believe Thomas went to that specific part of Choctaw Nation (Robert Love was the Postmaster of the town he went to) to find Janie's relatives and some help with raising his 8 youngest children. It couldn't have been easy to work all day and have to worry about how they were. I never would have discovered that had Lydia Quinton and Elijah and Sydney Crittenden Phillips not gone down to Choctaw Nation for safety's sake, taking their extended families and slaves with them. Talk about serendipity! Susan =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ok......I'm pretty new to studying the Bible.......but ..... unless I have misinterpreted you & Joyce..... all's that says is the Light is called Day & the dark He called Night & its the first day.........but how 'long' was that day back then? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spiritwalker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] DNA-Barb > Love you Joyce, but I'm afraid I must disagree with your statement that > "nowhere in this Bible are we given what a day consists of." No desire to > start an argument, but Genesis chapter 1, verse 3-5 tells exactly what a > day > is and it has never changed. If we are to rely on the Bible, we must take > it all...........

You may have told us before but I can't find it. What are the details on your 2X great grandmother? Her husband, children? On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:15 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I would appreciate any info you have on the Gossetts. As my gg grandmother > was a Gossett and I have no clue who her parents or family were. > > Thanks so much! > > > In a message dated 12/28/2012 4:13:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Oh, oh! I KNEW I knew those names, too. I have a lot of information > on Gossetts and Mayfields, Joyce. Do you want me to dig it out? > > On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joyce Gaston Reece > <[email protected]> wrote: >> I have a small amt of info on the Gossett in southeast TN via the > Mayfields. >> If that would be of any help I'll tell you more. >> >> >> >> Joyce Gaston Reece >> -----Original Message----- >> >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to > do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> please take non genealogy to [email protected] >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well said, Joyce! I learned the very hard way. I spent 10 long years looking for my great grandfather as a child in his parents' household. My grandpa's Bible said Thomas Jefferson Wood was born near Prescott in Nevada (pronounced nuh VAY duh) County in 1851, but no parents were listed. I looked and looked and looked. Then one day I discovered USGenWeb and from there ARGenWeb. There was a clickable chart of the counties with formation data including date of formation and parent counties. Nevada County did not exist in 1851, it was formed in 1871 just about the time my great grandparents had their first child. The part of the county in which Thomas lived on the 1880 census was Ouachita County before 1871. In 5 minutes I had him and his family for 1850, 1860 and 1870 in AR and his father in Conecuh County, AL in 1840, land registered in AL in 1830. I also had Janie's family back to 1827. Since then, I have never failed to look at county formation information and do a brief historical overview of the area before I start any research. It's time well-spent and worth its weight in gold! I know people get tired of hearing me say it on one of the other lists I'm on, but other than to get organized and stay organized from the beginning, it's the single most important research technique in genealogy (or history, even!) Susan

http://dna-explained.com/2012/12/28/2012-top-10-genetic-genealogy-happenings/ 1. The New Root – Haplogroup A00 At the Family Tree DNA conference in November, Michael Hammer, Bonnie Schrack and Thomas Krahn announced that they had made a monumental discovery in the age of modern man known as Y-line Adam. The discovery of Haplogroup A00 pushes the “birth” of mankind back from about 140,000 years ago to an amazing 338,000 years ago. Utterly amazing. The DNA came from an American family from South Carolina. This discovery highlights the importance of citizen science. Bonnie is a haplogroup administrator who recognized the potential importance of one of her participants’ DNA. Thomas Krahn of course is with Family Tree DNA and ran the WTY test, and Michael Hammer is at the University of Arizona. So you have the perfect blend here of participant, citizen scientist, commercial lab and academia. What was never thought possible a decade or so ago is not only working, it’s working well and changing the face of both science and humanity. From: Dj M Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 2:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Leavens in Kentucky, born 1828 Reference - Dennis Jenkins and Paisley caves Oregon. You should find a better observation. I don’t because I read like we all do to learn. Dennis has the ( only ) found DNA sample that old on the continent. They listed all the markers. Dan

I don't think so, Joyce. Tell me about them! On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Joyce Gaston Reece <[email protected]> wrote: > Susan > > Have I asked you about my Woods/Loves before? > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh, oh! I KNEW I knew those names, too. I have a lot of information on Gossetts and Mayfields, Joyce. Do you want me to dig it out? On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joyce Gaston Reece <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a small amt of info on the Gossett in southeast TN via the Mayfields. > If that would be of any help I'll tell you more. > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > -----Original Message----- > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That lineage sounds familiar to me, Bob. I'm getting ready to go to my mother-in-law's for the night and to celebrate a belated Christmas when our niece arrives home on leave from the Navy, so I won't be able to play tonight, but I'll get into my notes tomorrow night and see what I can shake out. I know I know those names but can't put my finger on why. Alli, do you or Debbie have Bayless in your lines? Your name popped straight into my head. Susan On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Robert H Appleby <[email protected]> wrote: > Susan, > > Jane Young was born circa 1802 in Eastern TN, or Western NC. She married Everitt Ritter and they moved to Eastern MS, where she died. She had a sister Mary Young, who also married a Ritter (not sure sitting here which one). Charlotte Caroline Ritter (born 1843) was one of Jane Young's daughters, who married George Washington Bayless(b:1844), and my grandmother was a daughter of this union, born in Harford, AR in 1880. My grandmother was Iris Estella Bayless, married Martin Houston Wagnon and lived in Cinton, Texas where my mother was born in 1910, and then moved back to Oklahoma, where she died in 1960. Charlotte Caroline Ritter died in 1930 in Ashland, Oklahoma. > > Any more details, I would be happy to provide. > > Bob > > On Dec 28, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Susan Reynolds wrote: > >> Bob, can you give us some details on your line? >> >> Susan >> =====*NOTICE THIS*===== >> Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). >> >> Rude people will be moderated asap! >> List archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene >> please take non genealogy to [email protected] >> Dual admin. >> Dan and Joyce >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Robert H Appleby (Bob) > 207 Watts St > Durham, NC 27701-2036 > 919-682-8902 > [email protected] > > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yeah, that term Indian Princess gets me. I couldn't believe my eyes when the history text we used last term called Pocahontas an Indian Princess. I wanted to jump up and down ranting about the misuse of the term. I finally opted to address it in my mid-term exam. The professor who wrote the book obviously didn't do his homework. He even got the story wrong! Ah, but the term full-blood is relative. It literally means of full blood, but it was also applied to those who lived among the full-bloods and were accepted by them as such, even thought they weren't. I've seen many Dawes and Miller applications that say "so-and-so is considered a full-blood even though she (or he) really isn't." If you lived among the full-bloods and accepted their values, traditions and way of life, you were called a full-blood - regardless. And there were many full-bloods who refused to adopt anglicized names and were simply given them. My Uncle Cephas was a half-blood Chickasaw. His father, who I've always heard called Wilson Holson James(my grandfather was named Holson in his honor) was a full-blood Chickasaw who spoke little English and I still haven't learned to pronounce his Chickasaw name. He was told he HAD to have an English name. He picked Wilson and Holson because he liked the sound of them and the Indian Agent picked James as his last name just because. It caused some misinterpretation, let me tell you. We have loads of family stories in both mine and my cousin Kathy's families (she's a Revelle by birth, I'm a Wood by birth and her great grandfather and my great grandmother were siblings), about the James boys coming to visit. Our families aren't close, but Kathy and I have become close since discovering each other so these stories weren't shared before hand. We decided that meant Cephas James, his brothers and sons had come to visit. NOT! When we finally found a reference in another cousin's great grandfather's ledger and account books from his days in Broken Bow, OK and before, it turned out it was THE James Boys - Frank and Jesse and their cronies. Names are funny things, especially among the Cherokee who might change names several times during their lifetimes. You just never know where they will lead and what they might come to mean! Susan

Went to the Hembree site that Joyce mentions.  Archive Message  on May 2010 is great.   She gives a length discussion regarding Daniel Bernard Hughes.  Highly recommend reading it. Went to the movies and checked the messages after coming home--what a surprise.   wanda

I haven't created a tree on there yet....so many have & so many have major mistakes, i worry about adding mine, even privately, because of someone not taking the facts :) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] lookups? > None of my trees are made public on Ancestry. Reason being - none of the > information has been confirmed and I don't want to be responsible for > inaccurate information spreading further. > > I mainly use it for research, then start digging up the facts. >

i don't, but i've seen that name often.........maybe Debbie does Please tell your Niece, thank you for your service :) Have a great time Alli :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Reynolds" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Cherokee Heritage > That lineage sounds familiar to me, Bob. I'm getting ready to go to > my mother-in-law's for the night and to celebrate a belated Christmas > when our niece arrives home on leave from the Navy, so I won't be able > to play tonight, but I'll get into my notes tomorrow night and see > what I can shake out. I know I know those names but can't put my > finger on why. Alli, do you or Debbie have Bayless in your lines? > Your name popped straight into my head. > Susan

Because of Cherokee Gene I have learned a very great deal not only about Cherokee genealogy but a part of American history I never, ever learned about. I lived in Oklahoma until 7 years ago and was able to go to Tahlequah several times a year, met David Hampton and the genealogists at the Cherokee Heritage Center, chatted with Jack Baker and Bob Blankenship and his very charismatic son who owns One Feather Books in Tahlequah. They were all of help to me as I researched beginning in 1999 for a friend who had been given one tiny piece of bad information that totally threw off her research for years. The more I researched her family, the more I fell in love with the Cherokee people. We are said to have Cherokee blood, but I know from looking at the records the chances are slim to none I will ever prove that - right places, right times, but there are no government records for the time and no family Bibles or other family records. But it's not necessary. I can help others prove theirs. I have been able to help that original friend, who was another Joyce, worked with Alli and Debbie and Joyce (on a number of projects), solved a 150 year-old mystery and the list goes on forever. I think the most satisfying was helping my cousin's son-in-law discover his Cherokee roots and seeing David fall in love with his Cherokee heritage. I still haven't gotten him the Rider applications in his line, just the Thompsons, but watching him develop research skills and navigate Cherokee records has been a joy. He was reared in foster homes, so he didn't grow up with the cousins and aunts and uncles who knew part of the story (not all of it though, and David has been able to teach THEM!),only learning of his heritage in the past year. And in the process, I learned why my great grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Wood packed up 8 of his children 3 weeks after his first wife, Mary Jane "Janie" Love died, and went to Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory, when on the surface there appeared to be absolutely no reason for him to leave his siblings and older children behind in Nevada County, Arkansas. That piece of information came from researching the Dawes application for a mixed blood freedman named Moses Crittenden and his sister's application which placed them in Choctaw Nation during the Civil War where, lo and behold, was a Chickasaw Love family in which the wife was the product of a Chickasaw/Cherokee lineage from around Muscle Shoals, AL, the household of Robert Love. I had long thought Janie's grandfather was the son of Thomas Love, the Tory who would not fight on either side in the Revolution and sought sanctuary in the old Chickasaw Nation, where he married a Chickasaw girl and had a large family with her. Their son, Thomas Jr is last seen in Chickasaw records at age 18 , then a Thomas Love/Lauve appears from nowhere in Arkansas, not far from Choctaw Nation. A portrait of Thomas and Janie Wood shows him obviously white and her obviously copper skinned. It was often found among the Cherokee (and the Chickasaw) that the husband took his offspring to his mother-in-law or his dead wife's oldest brother (or other male relative) to be raised. I believe Thomas went to that specific part of Choctaw Nation (Robert Love was the Postmaster of the town he went to) to find Janie's relatives and some help with raising his 8 youngest children. It couldn't have been easy to work all day and have to worry about how they were. I never would have discovered that had Lydia Quinton and Elijah and Sydney Crittenden Phillips not gone down to Choctaw Nation for safety's sake, taking their extended families and slaves with them. Talk about serendipity! Susan

Well said Kathie--------also, some of you might want to read, "Upon Our Ruins", (2011) it has lots and lots of genealogy and also mentions Motoy on page 71 and page 517. Good history about 750 pages, and Don Shadburn did not ask me to recommend his book. ----- Col.Joe -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Forbes, Kathie Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 1:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CherokeeGene] English vs. native names Many full-blood Cherokee were given English names. For example, Nancy Ward was Cherokee, married to a white man named Ward. We believe that Nancy was an Anglicization of her Cherokee name (usually written as Nan ye hi). I don't think having an English name has anything to do with being a full-blood or not. Cherokee who interacted with whites found their names translated or transliterated into something that white men could pronounce and write down. In many cases the 'white' names have nothing at all to do with their Cherokee names. Kathie ________________________________________ =====*NOTICE THIS*===== Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). Rude people will be moderated asap! List archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene please take non genealogy to [email protected] Dual admin. Dan and Joyce ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Folks, My great-great grandmother was supposedly full blood Cherokee (name of Jane Young). She married at Ritter and lived in MS and other Southern States, and after she died her offspring applied for membership in the Cherokee Nation in 1895. The applications was denied due to the fact that they had not lived in IT for 5 years. On the application several witnesses claimed that Jane Young was full blood Cherokee, and the photos that I have of her daughter, my great-grandmother, certainly look to have indian characteristics. Our oral history is that she was full blood Cherokee, and the Application supports that. However, my research has failed to verify any parental relations of Jane Young. Therefore, I am continuing to look for information that will substantiate the information contained on the Application. Until lately, I have been happy with the dialog that is on this list serve. However, I have come to the conclusion that a certain Barbara Gordon-Lanto is not furthering this dialog. She is constantly refusing to reference where that information is from, and insist on having her private information remain private and get incensed when one questions whether her information is accurate. If she continues to promote multiple response with little additional information, I am going to be forced to cancel my membership in this list serve,, because the multiple responses are becoming too much of an added burden with all the other genealogical emails I receive. Many thanks to all of the other responders who recognize that not all of us are experts, nor have been studying this area for a very long time. Happy New Year to all. Robert H Appleby (Bob) 207 Watts St Durham, NC 27701-2036 919-682-8902 [email protected]

naw, you know me better then that :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dj M" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] What has this list helped me with.....ot > Watch getting a swelled head, gives ear aches lol;)

I've had some distant cousin's go through our archives here & post some way earlier post's of mine & added it to their tree......didn't even ask or contact for any new corrected........ticks me off ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dj M" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Hughes lookups? > As experienced researcher, I am in the process of correction of false info > on my tree. > I copied a census with my moms name - was not MY moms . I have to go re > read > all my data, but in the mean time, I see 22 trees that are copying every > thing I post on there. > Just a though, think millions. > sigh.

awe so it wasn't dan who made the mistake, it was another's assumption & misunderstanding of lumping many into one :) imagine that Thanks for clarifying Susan......I was wondering how the Chinese got brought into this, now it makes a bit of sense :) Alli ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Reynolds" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [CherokeeGene] Leavens in Kentucky, born 1828 >I see the misunderstanding on the "Chinese" issue. The new DNA > standards show Native Americans as Asian, ie they originated in Asia, > but are not necessarily Chinese. There are many other groups on the > Asian continent and islands: Mongols, Indians (from India), Japanese, > etc. The Chinese are the more numerous, so we often think of Asians > as Chinese. > > Susan > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob....... Don't cancel this group......its worth staying on. Since I am one who responds to her comments, I will refrain from doing so on the group. I'd rather "ignore" one then lose another long time member :) Alli ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert H Appleby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 12:02 PM Subject: [CherokeeGene] Cherokee Heritage > Folks, > > My great-great grandmother was supposedly full blood Cherokee (name of > Jane Young). She married at Ritter and lived in MS and other Southern > States, and after she died her offspring applied for membership in the > Cherokee Nation in 1895. The applications was denied due to the fact that > they had not lived in IT for 5 years. On the application several > witnesses claimed that Jane Young was full blood Cherokee, and the photos > that I have of her daughter, my great-grandmother, certainly look to have > indian characteristics. Our oral history is that she was full blood > Cherokee, and the Application supports that. However, my research has > failed to verify any parental relations of Jane Young. Therefore, I am > continuing to look for information that will substantiate the information > contained on the Application. > > Until lately, I have been happy with the dialog that is on this list > serve. However, I have come to the conclusion that a certain Barbara > Gordon-Lanto is not furthering this dialog. She is constantly refusing to > reference where that information is from, and insist on having her private > information remain private and get incensed when one questions whether her > information is accurate. If she continues to promote multiple response > with little additional information, I am going to be forced to cancel my > membership in this list serve,, because the multiple responses are > becoming too much of an added burden with all the other genealogical > emails I receive. > > Many thanks to all of the other responders who recognize that not all of > us are experts, nor have been studying this area for a very long time. > > Happy New Year to all. > > Robert H Appleby (Bob) > 207 Watts St > Durham, NC 27701-2036 > 919-682-8902 > [email protected] > > > > > =====*NOTICE THIS*===== > Cherokee genealogy; topic specific certain conversation is allowed to do > genealogy; and sort fact from (fiction). > > Rude people will be moderated asap! > List archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokeegene > please take non genealogy to [email protected] > Dual admin. > Dan and Joyce > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message