Diane, The Grand Aunt I was speaking of was Martha Jane Robins...she was born in Al. in Winston Co. abt. 1879...She married Martin A. Painter...b. abt. 178...He is listing his birth place and his parents birthplace as Alabama. I have yet to find any info. on his parents. Quite possible the families migrated together from N. J. ( as my original Robins lines were listed as from N.J.) and the Carolina's into Tn. and then to Al. There are alot of Painters listed in Al. records. My Painter eventually migrated to Tishomingo. Miss. Someone once told me the name Painter was also a variation of the names Panter/Panther. What do you think? Di