If you think my Turners are a problem. Then listen to this. I recently received a death certificate for a Louisa Day. Now that was pretty normal until I saw that her father was Aley Ledford. My great great grandfather was Aley Ledford. It goes a little like this: Aley Ledford f/o Newton Day and Beatty Day. Newton Day was the father of Daniel Day. Daniel Day married Louisa Ledford/Sergent d/o Aley Ledford and Rebecca Sergent according to the death certificate. However, Rebecca Sergent had a Louisa and John Sergent (twins) on May 15, 1858 but the birth information says the father was Widow Green. Now I have looked Harlan County over and can find no Louisa Green, Ledford, or Sergent in 1860 or 1870. Let-a-lone a Widow Green. Now I just wonder was Rebecca Sergent THE WIDOW GREEN or did a Widow Green man exist? Again Beatty and Newton were sons of Nancy Day. Why did these individuals not take the name Ledford? Even today most people use the fathers name for the children. Ya'll jump in here any time an pull on the strings of my sanity. So the way that I have it figured is that Daniel Day married his half aunt? If'n you can ponder that for a minute.. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: Justicetrailrdr@aol.com [mailto:Justicetrailrdr@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:32 PM To: sheree606@alltel.net Subject: ? and comments lol.. and How are ya.. A Hello, How are ya .. comment on request and Question when you have time that I bet I actually know the answer to this time. lol Sherri wish I could help ya heck I have done the complete line on one ancestor only to find out that heck there were two ppl with the same name and dob born in the same counties with the same childrens names in the same time frames. Do you think they set out to really confuse future generations or it just happens this way? lol. I know how this mess gets you so lost its like come on give me a break you Know who your mom was least you had to have heard rumors.. Next I had a question I know the answer I am about positive but said I would ask you any how.. since you have traveled this road. Would a dna test on first cousins (thats questionable there) show if they had the same grand parents if they were both tested? I am thinking that it would. BUT We both know I am not always right on this matter I did check your link and gosh that would be something to figure out. Looks like they could of made it somewhat simpler not added all those extra people in there. Science is amazing but dang come on cut some slack we just want simple answers at times. Many Blessings and I Do wish you luck on the Van hunting, TT JusticeTrailRdr@aol.com