Thank you for that post. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: Renae !! [mailto:renaedc@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:49 PM To: CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] answers and questions I seldom ever reply to anything on this list, and I won't now except to enclose the following found in a Native American newsletter I receive. It says all I need to say... I Feel Cold By Ellen Edwards Copson I feel cold, though like you, I too am born from the belly of Mother Earth. I too came from the fire within her…I feel alone and reach out my hands to join the circle that is sacred, Those around me close their fists. Their eyes tell me to go away. Tears come to my heart but war is what I show. Their circle is not my place to be vulnerable. Now I am in my own circle, Alone with the spirit that accepts me. The birds sing songs of comfort to me as the earth and air surround me reinforcing Spirits love. And I wonder about my “indigenous” relatives. Was I not born from the same womb of life? Was I not clothed in skin with a heart and bones well placed like every other woman? I too am of this earth, sky, fire and water. My grandmother and grandfather speak to me sharing their wisdom of the path. I was born here along side my brothers, sisters and cousins. My skin is the color of clouds, and my eyes are the color of sky. My hair reflects the glow of earth’s precious gold. I am here as the circle dictates! Everyone’s ancestors hold their own sin. And they have been dealt with by the all powerful spirit like we will when we cross thru. Now, once again, I look to my brothers, sisters, and cousins to return my unending love and respect. I know we are all in the great family. I know fear makes enemies. But if you must be my enemy do so because of my actions, not my color or my ancestors actions! I have love to share within this heart. Please take that love and share yours. We all came from the same place, and we all live in the same place and we will all go to the same place when we die. I too am indigenous. I was born here. "...in all of us there is a hunger, marrow deep, to know our heritage - to know who we are and where we have come from." - Alex Haley _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ==== CHEROKEE-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== Indian Histories by Tribe: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/index.htm ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

I seldom ever reply to anything on this list, and I won't now except to enclose the following found in a Native American newsletter I receive. It says all I need to say... I Feel Cold By Ellen Edwards Copson I feel cold, though like you, I too am born from the belly of Mother Earth. I too came from the fire within her…I feel alone and reach out my hands to join the circle that is sacred, Those around me close their fists. Their eyes tell me to go away. Tears come to my heart but war is what I show. Their circle is not my place to be vulnerable. Now I am in my own circle, Alone with the spirit that accepts me. The birds sing songs of comfort to me as the earth and air surround me reinforcing Spirits love. And I wonder about my “indigenous” relatives. Was I not born from the same womb of life? Was I not clothed in skin with a heart and bones well placed like every other woman? I too am of this earth, sky, fire and water. My grandmother and grandfather speak to me sharing their wisdom of the path. I was born here along side my brothers, sisters and cousins. My skin is the color of clouds, and my eyes are the color of sky. My hair reflects the glow of earth’s precious gold. I am here as the circle dictates! Everyone’s ancestors hold their own sin. And they have been dealt with by the all powerful spirit like we will when we cross thru. Now, once again, I look to my brothers, sisters, and cousins to return my unending love and respect. I know we are all in the great family. I know fear makes enemies. But if you must be my enemy do so because of my actions, not my color or my ancestors actions! I have love to share within this heart. Please take that love and share yours. We all came from the same place, and we all live in the same place and we will all go to the same place when we die. I too am indigenous. I was born here. "...in all of us there is a hunger, marrow deep, to know our heritage - to know who we are and where we have come from." - Alex Haley _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

In a message dated 2/8/2005 3:56:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jillynjhango@aol.com writes: who is the chief redbird down in east tennessee? i do not know who is he but i remember passing road signs that directed to a chief redbird park or something like that?? is tht the same man? i wonder. http://www.sekybrocks.com/aaron-red_bird.htm

Nancy Day was born circa 1800 in Virginia. The last census she is found on is in Harlan County 1840. After that her children are listed in Aley Ledfords home and she is gone. If anyone has any information about Nancy Day I would appreciate it. I can't figure out why she would have left her children unless she had died. Sherry

Ohhhh I am sorry...getting things confused here. Beatty DAY and Newton DAY were brothers both used the name Ledford until they reached adulthood and then Beaty and Newton used their mothers surname DAY when they were adults. Edmund was the son of Beaty DAY and Louisa HOWARD. BEATYS son married Newtons daughter. Whew!!!!!!!!! Sorry about that. Try finding these people when they used two different last names. Its crazy!! Nancy Day was supposedly Native American. However, she just dropped off the face of the earth. No death record...no nothing. Edmond DAY married Mourning/Mona/Mornia Napier. I haven't quite figured that out either. She is listed on different records using all three names. She is listed in the KY Death index as Mornia Unthank (can't swear that is her but I order the death certificate because family says she married an Unthank). She too was supposedly Native American also. However, at this point in time I find that hard to believe. Three brothers and one daughter of Robert Napier and Mourning Noe named their children Mourning. Ha ha the jokes on me. LOL Try sorting those out when they were born with a year or two of each other. I don't know what the significance of the name Mourning would be in this family. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: Sherry Huff [mailto:sheree606@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:09 PM To: Carla Ledford Subject: RE: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Re: CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-D Digest V05 #13 My great grandfather Edmund Day aka Edmund Ledford was the son of Aley Ledford and Nancy Day. Edmund and his brother Newton used the Ledford surname until they became adults and then used their mothers surname. It is a mystery and no one seems to know why they did that. Also, one of Edmunds sons married Newtons daughter. First cousins...I don't get that either. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: Carla Ledford [mailto:ledforcd@muohio.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:57 PM To: CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Re: CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-D Digest V05 #13 There's also a Chief Redbird in Clay County, Kentucky. My parents live on the Redbird River, which was named after him. At 3:55 PM -0500 2/8/05, Jillynjhango@aol.com wrote: >who is the chief redbird down in east tennessee? i do not know who is he but >i remember passing road signs that directed to a chief redbird park or >something like that?? is tht the same man? i wonder. > > >==== CHEROKEE-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== >Please visit: Cherokee-Surnames Home page >http://www.accessgenealogy\native\mail\cherokee.htm > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- Carla ledforcd@muohio.edu ************************ Creativity is God's gift to you. What you do with it is your gift to God. -Bob Moawad- ==== CHEROKEE-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== Indian Histories by Tribe: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/index.htm ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

There's also a Chief Redbird in Clay County, Kentucky. My parents live on the Redbird River, which was named after him. At 3:55 PM -0500 2/8/05, Jillynjhango@aol.com wrote: >who is the chief redbird down in east tennessee? i do not know who is he but >i remember passing road signs that directed to a chief redbird park or >something like that?? is tht the same man? i wonder. > > >==== CHEROKEE-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== >Please visit: Cherokee-Surnames Home page >http://www.accessgenealogy\native\mail\cherokee.htm > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- Carla ledforcd@muohio.edu ************************ Creativity is God's gift to you. What you do with it is your gift to God. -Bob Moawad-

who is the chief redbird down in east tennessee? i do not know who is he but i remember passing road signs that directed to a chief redbird park or something like that?? is tht the same man? i wonder.

dear sherry huff:) maybe you and i are cousins? i am descended from huffs on my mama's side. they were from tennessee. my great great grandfather was born cherokee nation in tennessee 1829. the only record of that is from a census in arkansas 1860 something.. from our oral tradition, i know we are cherokee and low dutch or "black dutch" mixed blood. many people say the black dutch is a mix of different bloods.. that is probably right in my case. i know my gr gr grandfather and his family left east tennessee and moved out to arkansas with other family members when he was a little boy- i think about 5 or so maybe. there is a really neat lady named delores j huff. she is a professor out in oklahoma and she is cherokee. she is an educator and much of what she teaches to other educators is about na children and their education needs. she has a lot to say about self image and self love too:) she has written a couple of books- mostly textbooks. i emailed her at some point because i thought maybe she could help me with genealogy stuff since her name is huff too. she didnt know much about the genealogy stuff (but interestingly enough her mother has a very unusual name that is also my gr gr grndmother's same name) but she was really nice and also loving and wise, i thought. she said because of the assimilation of the people way back when, many of us will never find an official record of our connection to particular clans or families. she said though that we are all part of one family and that is what matters... i think she is right. for some of us there is no paper trail. i have been unable to find anything more than my gr gr grandfather's name on an american census with place of birth listed as cherokee nation/tennessee. pretty much i have given up on finding anything more... do you have stories passed down in your family? we could compare stories and see if anything jives.. i have those and they are very meaningful i think... and they are a source of comfort to my soul... also, i read as much as i can absorb about cherokee culture, beliefs, history and whatever i can get to read. is good for me and warms me up, ya know? i hope you can find your connections to family- if you find anything about the huff family, would you be sure to share the info with the board ;) thank you and good luck to you in your search. (cousin) jillyn

Seeking information for John CLICK b. bet. 1769-1770 in Rockbridge County, Virginia; d. October 1859 in Morgan County, Kentucky. John CLICK's sons are (1) David CLICK b. in 1808 in Rockingham County, Virginia. He married Nancy PATTON August 16, 1830 in Floyd County, Kentucky. (2) James Bartley CLICK b. December 10, 1800 at King Salt Works, Scott County, Virginia; d. March 1, 1898 in Floyd County, Kentucky. He married Jane (Jenny) SALMONS May 12, 1822 in Floyd County, Kentucky. Any/all help appreciated. Thank you, Windsowhitecloud@aol.com

Judy, I am not looking for a Chief Redbird Smith. Thank you for offering the help though. I was looking for information about Aaron Brock. Obviously he is not and was not recognized by the Cherokee Nation. I can live with that. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: Judy J [mailto:judy@genealogysurnames.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:22 AM To: CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Purpose of this list Ok, folks I have had enough. The purpose of this mailing list is for anyone to ask questions, even if we think we know the answer, someone out there just might have a better answer. When this list was set up it was to assist any one in search of their ancestors. When you are new to searching for your Indian Genealogy, you may not know the right way to ask a question, on this list there is no right or wrong way, just ask the questions. If you don't like the question asked, then don't answer. I have just spent some time reading the archives, I don't see any helpfulness there, but there is some attitude. All of us are searching, and on this list no one is more Indian than anyone else. If anyone is here to critize, know it all, or a more Indain than you attitude, than take it someplace else it doesn't belong on this list. We are here to help each other, to the question asked about Chief Redbird, no one provided an answer, except for smart remarks. I did a little digging this am and found this link to A Chief Redbird Smith, could this be who you are looking for? http://www.keetoowah-society.org/redbird.htm Judy ==== CHEROKEE-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== Indian Histories by Tribe: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/index.htm ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Ok, folks I have had enough. The purpose of this mailing list is for anyone to ask questions, even if we think we know the answer, someone out there just might have a better answer. When this list was set up it was to assist any one in search of their ancestors. When you are new to searching for your Indian Genealogy, you may not know the right way to ask a question, on this list there is no right or wrong way, just ask the questions. If you don't like the question asked, then don't answer. I have just spent some time reading the archives, I don't see any helpfulness there, but there is some attitude. All of us are searching, and on this list no one is more Indian than anyone else. If anyone is here to critize, know it all, or a more Indain than you attitude, than take it someplace else it doesn't belong on this list. We are here to help each other, to the question asked about Chief Redbird, no one provided an answer, except for smart remarks. I did a little digging this am and found this link to A Chief Redbird Smith, could this be who you are looking for? http://www.keetoowah-society.org/redbird.htm Judy

Sorry, list members But I have to agree with Ms Huff and Ms Davis. I know that I have NA ancestors but don't ask very many questions anymore because of some of the responses that I have gotten. We are here to question and learn. Everyone knows how hard this search is because NA had to deny who they were. Let's not do that here. Gracie in Okla. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry Davis" <she1961@yahoo.com> To: <CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:31 AM Subject: RE: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this list > I do not understand the attitudes of the people that > are associated in this list. So what if Ms Huff asked > her question, and you think that she got an answer, > evidently she did not get what she was looking for. I > signed up for this list to try to get answers on my > ancestors. I asked only one question, and got a very > nasty and rude reply back from some folks, that I > guess know everything there is about Native Americans. > I have read all the emails that come through the list > to me and far too many of them are not nice! I for > one, do not have a problem with Ms Huff asking her > questions, this list is for fact finding and > information sharing. Everyone needs to learn the > golden rule...Do unto others as you would have done to > you! > > Thank You! > > Sherry L Davis > Lubbock, TX > > > --- Sherry Huff <sheree606@alltel.net> wrote: > > > For your information Angela I figure somebody has to > > know something about > > the man other than "he was known as Chief Redbird" > > and since somebody is > > saying he was Native American why not ask those that > > may know more about > > Native Americans. Let me go a bit further by saying > > that since nobody has > > proven to me that he wasn't and no one has proven to > > me that he was then I > > have no real answer do I? Plus he did have > > descendants. It's a genealogy > > thing not something that this board understands. > > These lists are not used > > as they should be because of the negative attitudes > > of most of its members. > > I hardly ever see a fight on other lists. > > > > IF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE HAS A PROBLEM WITH ME BEING ON > > THIS LIST AND POSTING > > ANYTHING...HAVE ME KICKED OFF. OTHER THAN THAT I AM > > NOT MOVING. I REFUSE > > TO LET ANYONE TELL ME WHO I SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T ASK > > QUESTIONS ABOUT. > > > > I wonder if any of you "Indians" have given any > > consideration to the fact > > that someone on this list may actually be somewhat > > Indian. What happens > > when someone else finds their native american > > ancestors and can actually > > prove it? (poetic justice) Are they going to be > > treated the same way? You > > guys go ahead..perpetuate the cycle because that is > > all you are doing. You > > are accomplishing nothing by being nasty to others. > > > > Sherry > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tom and Patty [mailto:tomnpat@iland.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 2:12 AM > > To: CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Fw: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this > > list > > > > > > If you have already got the answer you wanted, then > > why ask the board? > > > > Angela > > > > > > >> What do you know about Aaron Brock? I had an > > anthropologist tell me that > > > he > > >> was Native American and he married a Cherokee > > woman by the name of > > > Susannah > > >> Caroline. > > >> > > >> Sherry > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Donna Delgadillo [mailto:donna.d@mail.com] > > >> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 9:54 AM > > >> To: Sherry Huff > > >> Subject: Re: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this > > list > > >> > > >> > > >> Yes, No, No, No. > > >> Donna > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Sherry Huff" <sheree606@alltel.net> > > >> To: CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com > > >> Subject: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this list > > >> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:30:52 -0500 > > >> > > >> > > > >> > Okay. Does anyone know anything about Aaron > > Brock aka Chief Redbird? > > > Was > > >> > he really Chief Redbird? 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I am sorry if I have posted this before. I stay so busy it is hard to keep up with what names I post where. Descendants of James Williams Generation No. 1 1. JAMES1 WILLIAMS was born Abt. 1794 in NC. He married SUSAN BAILY. She was born Abt. 1794. Child of JAMES WILLIAMS and SUSAN BAILY is: 2. i. ELIJAH2 WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1829, TN. Generation No. 2 2. ELIJAH2 WILLIAMS (JAMES1)1 was born Abt. 1829 in TN. He married DELILA SIMPSON 15 Sep 1852, daughter of ABRAHAM SIMPSON and DELILA SAYLOR. She was born Abt. 1835 in KY. Children of ELIJAH WILLIAMS and DELILA SIMPSON are: 3. i. JOHN BENNETT3 WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1854, Wallins Creek, KY. ii. JAMES WILLIAMS, b. 1856. iii. EDA WILLIAMS, b. 1858. iv. LUZINA WILLIAMS, b. 1859. Generation No. 3 3. JOHN BENNETT3 WILLIAMS (ELIJAH2, JAMES1) was born Abt. 1854 in Wallins Creek, KY. He married JANE. She was born Abt. 1856 in KY. Children of JOHN WILLIAMS and JANE are: 4. i. BILL4 WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1879, KY. ii. HARMON WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1875. iii. JANE WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1877. Generation No. 4 4. BILL4 WILLIAMS (JOHN BENNETT3, ELIJAH2, JAMES1) was born Abt. 1879 in KY. He married BELLE TURNER. She was born Abt. 1881. Children of BILL WILLIAMS and BELLE TURNER are: i. BERTHA5 WILLIAMS, b. 10 Mar 1916, Pineville, KY; d. 01 Apr 1986, Wallins Creek, KY; m. JAMES WILL DAY; b. 01 Feb 1911, Cranks Creek, KY; d. 15 Jan 1984, Dayhoit, KY2. ii. ALBERT WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1903. iii. ELBERT WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1905; m. MARY MORGAN. iv. JAMES WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1907. v. GRACIE WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1910. vi. LAWRENCE WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1915. vii. FRED WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1918. Endnotes 1. 1860 Harlan Co. Fed. CensusDwelling 507-507WILLIAMS, Elijah, 31, b. TN. . Delila, 25, b. KY. . Bennett, 7, b. KY. . James, 4, b. KY. . Eda, 2, b. KY. . Luzina, 1, b. KY. 2. Last Name: DayFirst Name: JamesMiddle Initial: WAge: 72Death Place: HarlanResidence: HarlanDeath Date: 15 Jan 1984Volume: 002Certificate: 00777Death Volume: 1984.

For your information Angela I figure somebody has to know something about the man other than "he was known as Chief Redbird" and since somebody is saying he was Native American why not ask those that may know more about Native Americans. Let me go a bit further by saying that since nobody has proven to me that he wasn't and no one has proven to me that he was then I have no real answer do I? Plus he did have descendants. It's a genealogy thing not something that this board understands. These lists are not used as they should be because of the negative attitudes of most of its members. I hardly ever see a fight on other lists. IF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE HAS A PROBLEM WITH ME BEING ON THIS LIST AND POSTING ANYTHING...HAVE ME KICKED OFF. OTHER THAN THAT I AM NOT MOVING. I REFUSE TO LET ANYONE TELL ME WHO I SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT. I wonder if any of you "Indians" have given any consideration to the fact that someone on this list may actually be somewhat Indian. What happens when someone else finds their native american ancestors and can actually prove it? (poetic justice) Are they going to be treated the same way? You guys go ahead..perpetuate the cycle because that is all you are doing. You are accomplishing nothing by being nasty to others. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: Tom and Patty [mailto:tomnpat@iland.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 2:12 AM To: CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fw: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this list If you have already got the answer you wanted, then why ask the board? Angela >> What do you know about Aaron Brock? I had an anthropologist tell me that > he >> was Native American and he married a Cherokee woman by the name of > Susannah >> Caroline. >> >> Sherry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Donna Delgadillo [mailto:donna.d@mail.com] >> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 9:54 AM >> To: Sherry Huff >> Subject: Re: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this list >> >> >> Yes, No, No, No. >> Donna >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sherry Huff" <sheree606@alltel.net> >> To: CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this list >> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:30:52 -0500 >> >> > >> > Okay. Does anyone know anything about Aaron Brock aka Chief Redbird? > Was >> > he really Chief Redbird? Was he really Indian? Was he Cherokee if he >> was? >> > >> > Sherry >> > >> > >> > ==== CHEROKEE-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== >> > Indian Tribes by Location: >> > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/indianlocation.htm ==== CHEROKEE-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== Indian Tribes by Location: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/indianlocation.htm ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I do not understand the attitudes of the people that are associated in this list. So what if Ms Huff asked her question, and you think that she got an answer, evidently she did not get what she was looking for. I signed up for this list to try to get answers on my ancestors. I asked only one question, and got a very nasty and rude reply back from some folks, that I guess know everything there is about Native Americans. I have read all the emails that come through the list to me and far too many of them are not nice! I for one, do not have a problem with Ms Huff asking her questions, this list is for fact finding and information sharing. Everyone needs to learn the golden rule...Do unto others as you would have done to you! Thank You! Sherry L Davis Lubbock, TX --- Sherry Huff <sheree606@alltel.net> wrote: > For your information Angela I figure somebody has to > know something about > the man other than "he was known as Chief Redbird" > and since somebody is > saying he was Native American why not ask those that > may know more about > Native Americans. Let me go a bit further by saying > that since nobody has > proven to me that he wasn't and no one has proven to > me that he was then I > have no real answer do I? Plus he did have > descendants. It's a genealogy > thing not something that this board understands. > These lists are not used > as they should be because of the negative attitudes > of most of its members. > I hardly ever see a fight on other lists. > > IF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE HAS A PROBLEM WITH ME BEING ON > THIS LIST AND POSTING > ANYTHING...HAVE ME KICKED OFF. OTHER THAN THAT I AM > NOT MOVING. I REFUSE > TO LET ANYONE TELL ME WHO I SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T ASK > QUESTIONS ABOUT. > > I wonder if any of you "Indians" have given any > consideration to the fact > that someone on this list may actually be somewhat > Indian. What happens > when someone else finds their native american > ancestors and can actually > prove it? (poetic justice) Are they going to be > treated the same way? You > guys go ahead..perpetuate the cycle because that is > all you are doing. You > are accomplishing nothing by being nasty to others. > > Sherry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom and Patty [mailto:tomnpat@iland.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 2:12 AM > To: CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Fw: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this > list > > > If you have already got the answer you wanted, then > why ask the board? > > Angela > > > >> What do you know about Aaron Brock? I had an > anthropologist tell me that > > he > >> was Native American and he married a Cherokee > woman by the name of > > Susannah > >> Caroline. > >> > >> Sherry > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Donna Delgadillo [mailto:donna.d@mail.com] > >> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 9:54 AM > >> To: Sherry Huff > >> Subject: Re: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this > list > >> > >> > >> Yes, No, No, No. > >> Donna > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Sherry Huff" <sheree606@alltel.net> > >> To: CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this list > >> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:30:52 -0500 > >> > >> > > >> > Okay. Does anyone know anything about Aaron > Brock aka Chief Redbird? > > Was > >> > he really Chief Redbird? Was he really Indian? > Was he Cherokee if he > >> was? > >> > > >> > Sherry > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== CHEROKEE-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== > >> > Indian Tribes by Location: > >> > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/indianlocation.htm > > > > ==== CHEROKEE-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== > Indian Tribes by Location: > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/indianlocation.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== CHEROKEE-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, > CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-L-request@rootsweb.com, To post to > the list CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

If you have already got the answer you wanted, then why ask the board? Angela >> What do you know about Aaron Brock? I had an anthropologist tell me that > he >> was Native American and he married a Cherokee woman by the name of > Susannah >> Caroline. >> >> Sherry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Donna Delgadillo [mailto:donna.d@mail.com] >> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 9:54 AM >> To: Sherry Huff >> Subject: Re: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this list >> >> >> Yes, No, No, No. >> Donna >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sherry Huff" <sheree606@alltel.net> >> To: CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this list >> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:30:52 -0500 >> >> > >> > Okay. Does anyone know anything about Aaron Brock aka Chief Redbird? > Was >> > he really Chief Redbird? Was he really Indian? Was he Cherokee if he >> was? >> > >> > Sherry >> > >> > >> > ==== CHEROKEE-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== >> > Indian Tribes by Location: >> > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/indianlocation.htm

Would anyone happen to know anything about Rhoda Howard? Descendants of Nathan Napier Generation No. 1 1. NATHAN6 NAPIER (ROBERT5, ROBERT4, EDWARD3, PATRICK2, RENE1) was born Abt. 1851, and died in Harlan Co, KY. He married RHODA HOWARD 15 Apr 1872. She was born Aug 1856 in Harlan Co, KY. Children of NATHAN NAPIER and RHODA HOWARD are: i. MOURNING7 NAPIER, b. 26 Oct 1892; d. 01 Nov 1988. ii. LOUISA NAPIER, b. 1886. iii. GEORGE W NAPIER, b. Mar 1888. iv. BETTIE NAPIER, b. 1893. v. REBECCA NAPIER, b. Mar 1897.

Would anyone happen to be familiar with the Louisa Howard that married Beatty Day aka Beatty Ledford? Beatty Days mother was Nancy Day. I "think" Louisa Howards father was Wilkerson Howard. Sherry Descendants of Beatty Day Generation No. 1 1. BEATTY2 DAY (ALEY1 LEDFORD) was born 05 Dec 1841 in Ky, and died 15 Mar 1915 in Owsley County, KY1. He married LOUISA HOWARD 06 Jan 1859 in Harlan county, KY2. She was born Abt. 1844. Children of BEATTY DAY and LOUISA HOWARD are: 2. i. EDMON3 DAY, b. 29 Mar 1871; d. 22 Mar 1927, Harlan Co, KY. ii. FANNIE DAY, b. Abt. 1861. iii. ALEY DAY, b. Abt. 1860. iv. MINTY DAY, b. Abt. 1865. v. WILKERSON DAY, b. 04 Jan 1867, Harlan Co, KY; m. ELIZABETH SKIDMORE. Generation No. 2 2. EDMON3 DAY (BEATTY2, ALEY1 LEDFORD) was born 29 Mar 1871, and died 22 Mar 1927 in Harlan Co, KY3. He married MOURNING NAPIER 1891 in Harlan county, KY, daughter of JOHN NAPIER and LOUISA/ELOIZA GARRETT. She was born Dec 1877, and died 12 Nov 1970. Children of EDMON DAY and MOURNING NAPIER are: 3. i. JAMES WILL4 DAY, b. 01 Feb 1911, Cranks Creek, KY; d. 15 Jan 1984, Dayhoit, KY. ii. VIOLA DAY, b. Dec 1893; d. Apr 1913. iii. BERTHA DAY, b. Dec 1894; d. 15 Apr 1976; m. JOHN D. NOE, 1914. iv. ELIZA DAY, b. Oct 1896. v. NOBLE DAY, b. 1898; d. May 1911. vi. GREEN DAY, d. 26 Apr 1913. vii. EWELL DAY, b. 19 Feb 1904; d. 24 Jun 1923. viii. MINTY DAY, b. 06 Mar 1906; d. 01 Jun 1976; m. MCKINNLEY CORNETT, 1920. ix. HIRAM DAY. x. MARY B DAY, b. 16 Feb 1913. xi. REBECCA DAY, b. 1915. xii. DORA DAY, b. 1918. xiii. NANCY DAY. Endnotes 1. Kentucky Death Records, Last Name: DayFirst Name: BeattyAge: 73Death Place: Owsley County, KYDeath Date: 15 March 1915Volume: 017Certificate: 08125Death Volume: 1915. 2. Beaty Day aka Babe Day used the name Beaty Ledford at the time of his marriage to Louisa Howard. 3. Last Name: DayFirst Name: BabeAge: 56Death Place: Harlan County, KYDeath Date: 22 March 1927Volume: 12Certificate: 05917Death Volume: 1927. 4. Last Name: DayFirst Name: JamesMiddle Initial: WAge: 72Death Place: HarlanResidence: HarlanDeath Date: 15 Jan 1984Volume: 002Certificate: 00777Death Volume: 1984.

I can assure you that I was not even close to getting "Huff-y". I was looking for information but thank you for explaining to me that "Indians" take great pleasure in misleading and misinforming. That is definately good information to know. -----Original Message----- From: Donna Delgadillo [mailto:donna.d@mail.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 10:58 AM To: Sherry Huff Subject: RE: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this list Well, if you're going to get "Huff-y" about it... The entire Aaron Brock question has been debated time and time again on this board and others. What "anthropologist?" You do realize that Indians take great joy in misleading and misinforming "anthros"--don't you? It's a fun game. However, I do remember reading that Redbird and Aaron Brock were definitely not the same person. Donna. No offense meant by anything I said, I was merely making a bad pun on your name. I am known for my bad puns (not kindly either, I believe.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry Huff" <sheree606@alltel.net> To: "Donna Delgadillo" <donna.d@mail.com> Subject: RE: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this list Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:13:48 -0500 > > What do you know about Aaron Brock? I had an anthropologist tell me that he > was Native American and he married a Cherokee woman by the name of Susannah > Caroline. > > Sherry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donna Delgadillo [mailto:donna.d@mail.com] > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 9:54 AM > To: Sherry Huff > Subject: Re: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this list > > > Yes, No, No, No. > Donna > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sherry Huff" <sheree606@alltel.net> > To: CHEROKEE-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CHEROKEE-SURNAMES] Let me ask this list > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:30:52 -0500 > > > > > Okay. Does anyone know anything about Aaron Brock aka Chief Redbird? Was > > he really Chief Redbird? Was he really Indian? Was he Cherokee if he > was? > > > > Sherry > > > > > > ==== CHEROKEE-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== > > Indian Tribes by Location: > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/indianlocation.htm > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

Okay. Does anyone know anything about Aaron Brock aka Chief Redbird? Was he really Chief Redbird? Was he really Indian? Was he Cherokee if he was? Sherry