In a message dated 1/9/2006 7:25:31 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: Remember that car my father got==get a flat tire they would have to get it off the rim find the thing that made the hole==take it out then put a patch over the hole then pump it full of air then put back on the rim allthis time you had your fingers crossed that the patch would hold==maybe no more today of course some one had to remember how to get to where you were going(no roads) ============================================= I liked to smell the smoke of the hot patches when Daddy was patching a tube. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America